The X10 mini only has 128MB of internal storage. I was wondering if there is an easy way to solve this, because I thought that Android only runs apps from internal memory by default.
Is there any good offline GPS app with all the maps included (no internet pre-caching needed)? How much space does it take this kind of offline GPS?
I'm asking this because I really want to use an offline GPS in this phone. If it's not possible I'll look for other androind phones (despite the X10 is the smaller one I found and my first choise for that reason).
Most GPS apps do store their content (maps, pois, etc.) on the SD card so it's no problem using them on the mini.
I'm using ndrive, it nice, allows you to select which maps to download from the internet and stores them on the sd card.
If you device is rooted try this app: Link2SD.
It allows to move user apps to sdcard (but IMHO works better then App2SD). Works perfect on all xperias (both minies, X8 and X10i).
What I don't understand is that if there's a lot of android roms that are about 100 to 150Mb in size, how is it possible for the X10 Mini to have only 128 Mb of storage space?
Are the 128Mb the free storage aviable for users? If so, how much space dos it have for Android?
sur1k said:
If you device is rooted try this app: Link2SD.
It allows to move user apps to sdcard (but IMHO works better then App2SD). Works perfect on all xperias (both minies, X8 and X10i).
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Very good find. This will pacify me to some extent for not having FROYO. I would like to install it. A detailed experience from you will help.
parthabhatta said:
Very good find. This will pacify me to some extent for not having FROYO. I would like to install it. A detailed experience from you will help.
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Good to know that Foryo has support for installing applications to the expandable memory.
Will the x10 mini be updated to froyo?
parthabhatta,
everything works as described in the Link2SD thread. You need just to root your phone, create ext2 partition on sdcard (better to use faster one; I use 6 class) and install the app. I linked such 'greedy' apps as navigation app and games (like Angry Birds). They work fine.
There's no reasons to copy or rewrite the manual. It's good and would't be better after English-Russian-English translation If you get any particular questions, I'll be glad to help.
zeroize said:
Will the x10 mini be updated to froyo?
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No.
sur1k said:
parthabhatta,
everything works as described in the Link2SD thread. You need just to root your phone, create ext2 partition on sdcard (better to use faster one; I use 6 class) and install the app. I linked such 'greedy' apps as navigation app and games (like Angry Birds). They work fine.
No.
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Great advice. I have installed this app successfully and installed Angry Bird which is running well. BTW my card doesn't have a class marked on it and I think its the slowest one (16gb, Class 2). But the Angry Bird runs well.
sur1k said:
If you device is rooted try this app: Link2SD.
It allows to move user apps to sdcard (but IMHO works better then App2SD). Works perfect on all xperias (both minies, X8 and X10i).
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works flawlessly!!
newtron_b1 said:
works flawlessly!!
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So is there really any difference between using Android Froyo (wich has native support for installing apps in the microsd card) and Link2SD (wich is the only alternative to the X10 since it's not going to be updated to Froyo)?
If I'm not mistaken, Froyo doesn't allow to move all apps. Application must support this feature to be moved. Have you seen "App2SD!!!" comments in Market? That's about it
Link2SD allows to move any user app. The only disadvantage is that using Link2SD you have to relink apps after updating (or delete link if you decided to uninstall something).
rikirix started a new topic about Link2SD. Maybe it would be better to continue the discussion there. And mark the question as answered
sur1k said:
If I'm not mistaken, Froyo doesn't allow to move all apps. Application must support this feature to be moved. Have you seen "App2SD!!!" comments in Market? That's about it
Link2SD allows to move any user app. The only disadvantage is that using Link2SD you have to relink apps after updating (or delete link if you decided to uninstall something).
rikirix started a new topic about Link2SD. Maybe it would be better to continue the discussion there. And mark the question as answered
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Ok. By the way, there are projects to port froyo to de x10 mini and pro once the bootloader is fully decrypted.
try mapdroid. this will allow you to download maps using your pc and then copy them to your sd card. working on my mini.
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I tryed google gogles from internet and work on x8 but why i cant find this app on android market?
What apps you have try but you cannot find it on android market?
You have the same problem as mine:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=919112
You can't download Google Goggles from the Market because it is only for phones with auto-focus. X8 doesn't have a camera with auto-focus.
How i use this app if doesnt works on my phone???
Can you explain this.
PS i will upload it later.
This argument is stupid. Barcode Scanner is available in market, so camera without
autofocus is not problem.
It works I have it too. But it's not available in the Market to phones without auto focus.
use the market enabled ....
download it at blapkmarket
As for me, I just use Market on emulator and later push them all to my SD.
ei, how can I save the APPS I downloaded from android market to the SD Card of my Xperia X8? I notice that when I downloaded i think 8 APPS in android market, I am notified for having low storage capacity. I have a 2GB SD card on my phone so I think storage problem is not an issue. But how can I save APPS there (SD Card)?
Your help will be deeply appreciated..
Google Goggles IS available for me... I'm from Poland. An I don't use any Market Enablers or stuff like that.
Available for latest firmware.
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yes,available for me too....
Sent from my E15i 2.1.1.a.0.6 using XDA App
i think google not yet release full android market because of our carrier no supporting yet..
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ei, how can I save the APPS I downloaded from android market to the SD Card of my Xperia X8? I notice that when I downloaded i think 8 APPS in android market, I am notified for having low storage capacity. I have a 2GB SD card on my phone so I think storage problem is not an issue. But how can I save APPS there (SD Card)?
Your help will be deeply appreciated..
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Change your ROM.
Get a customized ROM - Froyopro/GingerDx/GingerXperia
I did search the forum first and didn't find the answer. Is it possible to have games installed on sdcard2 (gameloft, THD games)? If so how? I didn't know if the read/write speed was fast enough to do it. And if they can be do games play without lag? I ask because im almost out of room on my gtab.
I can't answer all of your questions since I rarely play games. However, if you install an app such as APP2SD, it will ask if you want to move a newly installed app to the SD card if that app is capable of being moved. Not all apps are designed to be able to be moved.
I have many apps that I have moved to SD and have not really noticed a lag....but again, I am not a gamer and only install games for my grandkids to use.
Try it and see, you can always move them back if they don't run well.
Joeb2751 said:
I can't answer all of your questions since I rarely play games. However, if you install an app such as APP2SD, it will ask if you want to move a newly installed app to the SD card if that app is capable of being moved. Not all apps are designed to be able to be moved.
I have many apps that I have moved to SD and have not really noticed a lag....but again, I am not a gamer and only install games for my grandkids to use.
Try it and see, you can always move them back if they don't run well.
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I tried 3 different kinds and they all force close when I tap on the name of a game. I'm running mountain laurel Tom and there's no option to move in settings
kieso said:
I tried 3 different kinds and they all force close when I tap on the name of a game. I'm running mountain laurel Tom and there's no option to move in settings
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The ROM is not what gives you the option to move.....at least not on my tablet. First you install a 3rd party app such as APP2SD. When that app is installed, anytime you install an app, at the end of installation APP2SD will notify you that you can move that app to your SD card....IF and ONLY IF the developer of your app has built it in such a way that it is able to be run from the card.
I knew that part but none of those apps move to sdcard2. Sdcard is just the internal storage
i dont have any space on my usb storage and i want do download games that takes a lot of memory (200-700mb) is ther an app that move this apps to the external sd?
thanks for all the helpers!
GOTCHA - u want to play huge games thats why u need OC and all that
since Froyo, user apps can be moved to external SD - go Settings - Manage applications and click on the app u want to move. in the next screen u'll see app details and u have a big button "Move to USB storage".
p.s. hit the thanks button also if u say "thanks all..."
dowanrac said:
GOTCHA - u want to play huge games thats why u need OC and all that
since Froyo, user apps can be moved to external SD - go Settings - Manage applications and click on the app u want to move. in the next screen u'll see app details and u have a big button "Move to USB storage".
p.s. hit the thanks button also if u say "thanks all..."
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yes but not all the apps are moveable is there any way that i can move this app to the external SD?
and i have 2.3.5 android version
kfirbep said:
yes but not all the apps are moveable is there any way that i can move this app to the external SD?
and i have 2.3.5 android version
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You do not want to move all apps to SD... the ones that cannot be moved are greyed out so you can't move them... These apps, I suppose, are designed to run from your phone memory and cannot be moved.
You can try App2SD app but I recommend leaving those apps alone. But if you decide to force move them, do not move the apps with widgets as moving them will break the widgets.
never used such an app im afraid. im sure there are many, search the markets.
i find it odd that an app of the size u mention comes without the possibility to install or move to external sd.
in any case, i recall i saw somewhere thread or posts about using ADB shell to change a system parameter which makes all apps to be installed on SD card instead of phone internal sd.
cvcduty said:
You do not want to move all apps to SD... the ones that cannot be moved are greyed out so you can't move them... These apps, I suppose, are designed to run from your phone memory and cannot be moved.
You can try App2SD app but I recommend leaving those apps alone. But if you decide to force move them, do not move the apps with widgets as moving them will break the widgets.
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but which one of this app2sd?theres some apps that just says which of the apps is a moveable i want app that move every app i want.
dowanrac said:
never used such an app im afraid. im sure there are many, search the markets.
i find it odd that an app of the size u mention comes without the possibility to install or move to external sd.
in any case, i recall i saw somewhere thread or posts about using ADB shell to change a system parameter which makes all apps to be installed on SD card instead of phone internal sd.
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These game apps, from my experience, do install the game related files to the internal sd card... not the phone memory... I think the OP is concerned about the fact that since these players only come with 8GB to start with with about 4GB available to users as internal sd, taking 700MB of that leaves little space for everything else... the thing is... external cards are removable... and the game would not function without these files... so that is probably why they are installed on the internal sdcard and not the ex_sdcard... maybe... someone correct me if I am wrong...
dowanrac said:
never used such an app im afraid. im sure there are many, search the markets.
i find it odd that an app of the size u mention comes without the possibility to install or move to external sd.
in any case, i recall i saw somewhere thread or posts about using ADB shell to change a system parameter which makes all apps to be installed on SD card instead of phone internal sd.
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i cant find spb shell on the market do u have a link?
kfirbep said:
i cant find spb shell on the market do u have a link?
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it comes with SuperOneClick and its part of Android SDK. do some research first. ADB shell isnt an app or such.
dowanrac said:
it comes with SuperOneClick and its part of Android SDK. do some research first. ADB shell isnt an app or such.
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ok but where is it in the device?
I have broken my 8Gb flash 80 G9 and am considering replacing it with the 250Gb HD model (as i can pick one up for a good price)
How much space is there for installing apps on the 250Gb HD model?
I would hope that there is at least the same amount of space in flash memory and the HD is reserved for media content?
"just" 2 go
2Gb is pretty bad.
Hmmm not good!
just for the apk, it is good
cajl said:
just for the apk, it is good
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And applications that require additional data; for example games or GPS software? Can this extra data be transferred to the HD ?
yes the gps maps are on the HDD, for the game it is the same
Thank you Cajil.
Sorry to keep asking all these questions but I want to make sure I make the right decision :
Does this behaviour of extra data installing to the HD happen automatically or do I need to use something like app2SD to force it to happen?
I don't use app2SD
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"just" 2 go
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It's 2GB flash chip, data partition (mmcblk0p4) is 1.5GB. Note that Apps2sd (native) is disabled, I can't say if 3rd party would work or not.
You may try to make an additional empty ext4 image and mount it as /data/app using init.d script
I have an HDD 80g9 and I'ma having serious problems with the app space.
Since I started installing custom roms I don't have a lot of space left.
Just to make an example:my most space consuming apps are: chrome, firefox, angrybirds space, google currents and facebook. All togheter they sum up to 134mb and with all the other small apps I have 350mb of free space left.
The other day I couldn't update angrybirds space because it said I have not enough space. I had to uninstall and then re-install the app from scratch and it worked.
The biggest problem is that I can't install any other game or "big" app like autodesk sketchbook or photoshop because it says so.
If I could go back I would get the 16gb version and maybe buy an extra SD.
btw, apparently there's no way to move apps to the hdd.
trespolo said:
I have an HDD 80g9 and I'ma having serious problems with the app space.
Since I started installing custom roms I don't have a lot of space left.
Just to make an example:my most space consuming apps are: chrome, firefox, angrybirds space, google currents and facebook. All togheter they sum up to 134mb and with all the other small apps I have 350mb of free space left.
The other day I couldn't update angrybirds space because it said I have not enough space. I had to uninstall and then re-install the app from scratch and it worked.
The biggest problem is that I can't install any other game or "big" app like autodesk sketchbook or photoshop because it says so.
If I could go back I would get the 16gb version and maybe buy an extra SD.
btw, apparently there's no way to move apps to the hdd.
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This sounds bad.
Seems to me like the 250Gb HD model is crippled.
I want to install lots and lots of apps; ( I could install plenty of apps with my old 8Gb non-turbo) and now it seems that if I buy the 250Gb HD model I can install fewer apps?!?
OR is this only a problem when using custom ROMs? If I use the stock/default Archos ROMs will I still be able to install lots of apps without running out of space?
Extreme_One said:
This sounds bad.
Seems to me like the 250Gb HD model is crippled.
I want to install lots and lots of apps; ( I could install plenty of apps with my old 8Gb non-turbo) and now it seems that if I buy the 250Gb HD model I can install fewer apps?!?
OR is this only a problem when using custom ROMs? If I use the stock/default Archos ROMs will I still be able to install lots of apps without running out of space?
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I was able to install more apps with the unrooted stock rom.
every day I think about going back, but I need the benefits of rooting.
Right now I'm using a backup app to manage the apps I don't use frequently: when I need to use one of those, I backup a game, uninstall it and then restore the backup of the app I need.
It's not an ideal solution, but in the end it only takes a few minutes to do it.
The real problem for me is the lack of support of app2sd or similar. If someone is able to solve that, the tablet would be fine.
Extreme_One said:
This sounds bad.
Seems to me like the 250Gb HD model is crippled.
I want to install lots and lots of apps; ( I could install plenty of apps with my old 8Gb non-turbo) and now it seems that if I buy the 250Gb HD model I can install fewer apps?!?
OR is this only a problem when using custom ROMs? If I use the stock/default Archos ROMs will I still be able to install lots of apps without running out of space?
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trespolo said:
I was able to install more apps with the unrooted stock rom.
every day I think about going back, but I need the benefits of rooting.
Right now I'm using a backup app to manage the apps I don't use frequently: when I need to use one of those, I backup a game, uninstall it and then restore the backup of the app I need.
It's not an ideal solution, but in the end it only takes a few minutes to do it.
The real problem for me is the lack of support of app2sd or similar. If someone is able to solve that, the tablet would be fine.
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-Rooted/custom firmware uses 400MB of /data space (system image is stored in /data/local) so usable /data space in this case is ~1GB (for apps & app+system data)
-Stock rom (thus also custom ones) does not support native Apps2sd because to HDD access times -much slower than flash memory- and power usage
And don't forget that Gen9 was designed primarily as multimedia center
Hi guys I'm planning to buy 128GB micro sd
any suggestions? I'm planning to get this PNY 128gb MicroSD
I think ultra its only up to 64GB
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gkm8123 said:
I think ultra its only up to 64GB
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I see.. but I saw Sandisk 128GB micro sd is compatible with Z ultra
That its good news
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gkm8123 said:
That its good news
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I saw it here , but I don't know if the other brand works too
I can confirm the sandisk 128gb card works on the Z Ultra. I am using it now.
wingzero said:
I can confirm the sandisk 128gb card works on the Z Ultra. I am using it now.
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thank you, I guess I'll just get that one.
gkm8123 said:
I think ultra its only up to 64GB
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Any device compatible with Micro SDXC will be able of interacting with a card of any size which conforms to that standard.
Sony only mentions 64GB because that was the largest size when the Togari was released, and so the device was tested against.
Fever09 said:
Hi guys I'm planning to buy 128GB micro sd
any suggestions? I'm planning to get this PNY 128gb MicroSD
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I have a 128gb Samsung in mine from Amazon and works perfectly fine it formats ok on the phone but I formatted it as exFat in windows to use the space better.
I purchased the following about a month ago. It is fast (to write) and worked right out of the box. Didn't reformat, like I have in the past but I have it almost filled with music, old TV shows, books, etc.
The Ultra with this card did an amazing job when I was in the frozen tundra for a couple of weeks on a business trip. Best android device I've ever owned.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00O1M21H8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Fever09 said:
Hi guys I'm planning to buy 128GB micro sd
any suggestions? I'm planning to get this PNY 128gb MicroSD
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I bought this one and it works great on my Z Ultra GPE. I also use it with my Nexus 6 via an OTG. Works great on both after first formatting it in the Ultra.
musebox said:
I bought this one and it works great on my Z Ultra GPE. I also use it with my Nexus 6 via an OTG. Works great on both after first formatting it in the Ultra.
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yea, PNY 128gb micro sd was on sale last week for $79. but I didn't purchase it because I'm still waiting for feedbacks
Fever09 said:
yea, PNY 128gb micro sd was on sale last week for $79. but I didn't purchase it because I'm still waiting for feedbacks
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Yeah, I got it a couple of weeks back at that price too! Before formatting it in the Ultra, I first followed the instructions at the following thread to remove the extra 16mb partition, which is useless.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33768158
I then popped the card in my Ultra, and was able to format it perfectly! Beforehand, the Ultra wouldn't recognize it to even format it and I wasn't able to do it on my PC either, so the above definitely proved useful.
musebox said:
Yeah, I got it a couple of weeks back at that price too! Before formatting it in the Ultra, I first followed the instructions at the following thread to remove the extra 16mb partition, which is useless.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33768158
I then popped the card in my Ultra, and was able to format it perfectly! Beforehand, the Ultra wouldn't recognize it to even format it and I wasn't able to do it on my PC either, so the above definitely proved useful.
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good to know that! Thanks
I just ordered this beautiful phone and have been researching accessories. SD card would make sense but I'm curious what people use it for because I keep reading at various sites that it's not possible to move apps to SD card on this device (unlike on my Note 3). Is this true, and if yes what are we actually able to do with the SD card?
Thanks for any info.
tgdinamo said:
I just ordered this beautiful phone and have been researching accessories. SD card would make sense but I'm curious what people use it for because I keep reading at various sites that it's not possible to move apps to SD card on this device (unlike on my Note 3). Is this true, and if yes what are we actually able to do with the SD card?
Thanks for any info.
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You probably can achieve this without root with some app, but the best scenario would be to format the sdcard with either ext4 or f2fs for better performance.
Some kernels support f2fs.
This will increase performance a lot.
Will be back. A bit busy now..
SÜPERUSER said:
You probably can achieve this without root with some app, but the best scenario would be to format the sdcard with either ext4 or f2fs for better performance.
Some kernels support f2fs.
This will increase performance a lot.
Will be back. A bit busy now..
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Thanks. Would formatting the sdcard mean I will have to root to run apps installed on it? My concern is that this phone needs to be for work as well so I need to run Airwatch on it for company emails etc.
Unfortunately I think it's likely if I root the device Airwatch will have a problem with that because of some type of security restriction.
Does anyone know if at least music files and maps for gps apps like Sygic and Navigon can be stored on the SD card (while the music and gps apps themselves are installed in the 16GB internal memory)? Can this be done with stock rom (like I'm able to do with my Note 3)?
tgdinamo said:
Thanks. Would formatting the sdcard mean I will have to root to run apps installed on it? My concern is that this phone needs to be for work as well so I need to run Airwatch on it for company emails etc.
Unfortunately I think it's likely if I root the device Airwatch will have a problem with that because of some type of security restriction.
Does anyone know if at least music files and maps for gps apps like Sygic and Navigon can be stored on the SD card (while the music and gps apps themselves are installed in the 16GB internal memory)? Can this be done with stock rom (like I'm able to do with my Note 3)?
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Yes you will need to root your device in the first place to begin with.
You need root to be able to:
* Move or link apps/data to sdcard1
* Hide your root status
* Use an alternative file system on sdcard1
All the apps I found from a quick search, who handles these tasks require a rooted device.
Also If you want to increase performance by using ext4 or f2fs formatted card.
Formatting the sdcard can be done from either twrp recovery or via software on the computer if you have an sdcard reader.
Apps that can handle apps on external storage
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/apps2sd-partition-sd-card-link-apps-to-t3122919
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/android4-1-phones-rom-shortage-app-t3132914
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=919326
Hiding root status.
There is a way to hide root status from specific apps
You can install Xposed framework and install the module
RootCloak
http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.devadvance.rootcloak
or
Good for Enterprise Disable Root Check
http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.phantasm.xposed.gfesecuritypatcher
I have never used an app like this so I have no idea if its working or not. And or if its working on lollipop if you have latest update installed on your mobile device.
RootCloat was updated 2014-01-14 and Good for Enterprise Disable Root Check was updated 2014-11-07 so both was updated a long time ago.
But I have seen many users around here on XDA who said it works good.
And sygic.
Sygic ask you to move system files to internal sd0 at first start if you placed them on sd1.
After this prompt it will do this for you. So it won't run from sdcard.
Edit: Music/multimedia files are fine to store on sd1. No problems there. I can't guarantee that stock walkman app can browse sd1. I have never used the app.
I have the app PlayerPro and DSPpack for codecs and it has worked fine for me since 2010. I've used the app on all my android devices over the years.
http://www.aplayerpro.com/
SÜPERUSER said:
Yes you will need to root your device in the first place to begin with.
You need root to be able to:
* Move or link apps/data to sdcard1
* Hide your root status
* Use an alternative file system on sdcard1
All the apps I found from a quick search, who handles these tasks require a rooted device.
Also If you want to increase performance by using ext4 or f2fs formatted card.
Formatting the sdcard can be done from either twrp recovery or via software on the computer if you have an sdcard reader.
Apps that can handle apps on external storage
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/apps2sd-partition-sd-card-link-apps-to-t3122919
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/android4-1-phones-rom-shortage-app-t3132914
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=919326
Hiding root status.
There is a way to hide root status from specific apps
You can install Xposed framework and install the module
RootCloak
http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.devadvance.rootcloak
or
Good for Enterprise Disable Root Check
http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.phantasm.xposed.gfesecuritypatcher
I have never used an app like this so I have no idea if its working or not. And or if its working on lollipop if you have latest update installed on your mobile device.
RootCloat was updated 2014-01-14 and Good for Enterprise Disable Root Check was updated 2014-11-07 so both was updated a long time ago.
But I have seen many users around here on XDA who said it works good.
And sygic.
Sygic ask you to move system files to internal sd0 at first start if you placed them on sd1.
After this prompt it will do this for you. So it won't run from sdcard.
Edit: Music/multimedia files are fine to store on sd1. No problems there. I can't guarantee that stock walkman app can browse sd1. I have never used the app.
I have the app PlayerPro and DSPpack for codecs and it has worked fine for me since 2010. I've used the app on all my android devices over the years.
http://www.aplayerpro.com/
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Thanks very much for such detailed answer and advice! A lot of stuff to absorb but it should be fun to explore how all this may work.
SÜPERUSER said:
Yes you will need to root your device in the first place to begin with.
You need root to be able to:
* Move or link apps/data to sdcard1
* Hide your root status
* Use an alternative file system on sdcard1
All the apps I found from a quick search, who handles these tasks require a rooted device.
Also If you want to increase performance by using ext4 or f2fs formatted card.
Formatting the sdcard can be done from either twrp recovery or via software on the computer if you have an sdcard reader.
Apps that can handle apps on external storage
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/apps2sd-partition-sd-card-link-apps-to-t3122919
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/android4-1-phones-rom-shortage-app-t3132914
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=919326
Hiding root status.
There is a way to hide root status from specific apps
You can install Xposed framework and install the module
RootCloak
http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.devadvance.rootcloak
or
Good for Enterprise Disable Root Check
http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.phantasm.xposed.gfesecuritypatcher
I have never used an app like this so I have no idea if its working or not. And or if its working on lollipop if you have latest update installed on your mobile device.
RootCloat was updated 2014-01-14 and Good for Enterprise Disable Root Check was updated 2014-11-07 so both was updated a long time ago.
But I have seen many users around here on XDA who said it works good.
And sygic.
Sygic ask you to move system files to internal sd0 at first start if you placed them on sd1.
After this prompt it will do this for you. So it won't run from sdcard.
Edit: Music/multimedia files are fine to store on sd1. No problems there. I can't guarantee that stock walkman app can browse sd1. I have never used the app.
I have the app PlayerPro and DSPpack for codecs and it has worked fine for me since 2010. I've used the app on all my android devices over the years.
http://www.aplayerpro.com/
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I've been playing with my new ZU (love it) and am still running stock (non-root) because of airwatch.
I have found out that many apps can be run from SD even if you don't root (can be moved there - same as on my Note 3).
As far as GPS apps, it turns out that Navigon can completely run from SD, and also it's maps can be stored on SD. The trick is to not move already installed Navigon app to SD - if you do that it will only move the app itself to SD but leave the maps in internal memory. Instead I had to do the following: 1. uninstall navigon 2. make sure SD card is inserted 3. install navigon again - then when you start the app the first time it will recognize the SD card and ask you where you want the maps installed. That worked perfectly for me and was able to reclaim 3GB of internal memory.
Unfortunately Sygic which is my prefered GPS app does not seem to have this option to install data on SD (never asked me about this during installation, and I don't see anything in the settings either).
Still, this is a good result - shows that when apps are designed properly the data can reside on SD without need for root.
Next task is to find a good car driving game which will want to completely live on SD (at least it's data since I assume if good graphics the game must be huge).