Hey Guys,
Initially before I got my phone I had another perception on how smart stay works and was a bit disappointed...
My thoughts were, that if you are reading something it checks up on you if you are still looking = Screen stays on and if you look away it turns off.
The breaking point in what I thought was, that after the screen has shut down and you look at it again (Lets say a time frame of 5-10 Seconds) it turns on again.
I hope some DEV reads this and could make a MOD or something like that. Would be really cool and I dont think, that programming that is that tough.
Regardless of this I would love to have Smart Stay as a toggle option in the 15 Toggle mode or something, is that possible?
Thanks in advance
think that you have put your phone aside after looking at it. And it will have to monitor your eyes on that time too. Too much battery drain because camera needs to be on all the time! this is why samsung didnt enabled this!
Ruchira88 said:
think that you have put your phone aside after looking at it. And it will have to monitor your eyes on that time too. Too much battery drain because camera needs to be on all the time! this is why samsung didnt enabled this!
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The camera does not need to be on "all the time". The way it works is as follows:
- The screen timeout is set to a certain time - let's say 30 seconds. After 30 seconds have elapsed, the screen will turn off if Smart Stay is not activated.
- If Smart Stay is active, after 30 seconds the camera will switch on and determine whether you are looking at the screen. If it determines you are, it will trigger the screen to stay on for another 30 seconds, after which it will do the same again, and so on. Once it has confirmed you're looking at the screen, the camera will switch off again.
Hence in fact the camera only needs to go on for a very short period of time - just enough to see your eyes, basically. You'll know it's doing this because it briefly shows an eye icon in the notification bar.
Yeah and I meant that after the screen is off it just should monitor for another 30 seconds or so
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Which would increase battery drain tenfold.
anthropolyte said:
- If Smart Stay is active, after 30 seconds the camera will switch on and determine whether you are looking at the screen. If it determines you are, it will trigger the screen to stay on for another 30 seconds, after which it will do the same again, and so on. Once it has confirmed you're looking at the screen, the camera will switch off again.
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ok lets say screen is turned off and camera is checking eyes once every 30seconds. what if I happen to look at it on the 15th second
i have put this in smart stay threads before, if only people would search before asking questions.
anyway, in order for smart stay to work well this condition must be met - open front camera and look at it if you can see your face and it isn't darkened then smart stay will work well. because some may ask that smart stay doesn't work even if lighting is good, that is because your face is darkened because of shadow and you are at the back of lighting.
if that condition is met then :
1. smart stay should be enabled obviously. set screen timeout to 15 seconds.
2. look at screen, you will see in 5 seconds the eye icon for smart stay will light up
3. turn your phone at an angle away from your face but enough that you can see the eye icon 5 seconds later.
- this time the screen dims but not turn off.
4. face phone screen again, 5 seconds later eye appears the screen brightens up.
5. repeat step 3, screen dims. then this time remain not looking at screen.
- after dim, 5 seconds later eye checks again and detects you're not facing screen thus it turns off screen.
now some will be thinking, having the front camera turn on at intervals will just use more battery. the thing is,turning the front cam to sense your face for just about 2 seconds at intervals won't consume as much battery consumed as compared to the display still turned on for 15,30seconds,1minute or more even when you're not using the phone.
purpose of smart stay:
1. already well-known since this is what they advertise for this feature, keep light on so you don't have to annoyingly touch the screen at intervals you think the screen timeout is nearing so as not to be inconvenienced by the screen turning off when you are reading or browsing.
2. THIS IS THE MAIN PURPOSE - to turn off display way before the screen timeout because there's no use having the display still on when you're not using the phone. we all know the display is one of the things that can drain battery fast. this is very helpful for those who set there screen timeout to 1minute or more.
note : the time interval for smart stay checking/eye appearing is different for the screen timeout interval you set.
a bit harsh but quite correct, he took time out to give you an explanation, and a very good one, a hit on the thanks button is what you should have done! Nice one radeon :thumbup::thumbup:
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radeonxt said:
i have put this in smart stay threads before, if only people would search before asking questions.
anyway, in order for smart stay to work well this condition must be met - open front camera and look at it if you can see your face and it isn't darkened then smart stay will work well. because some may ask that smart stay doesn't work even if lighting is good, that is because your face is darkened because of shadow and you are at the back of lighting.
if that condition is met then :
1. smart stay should be enabled obviously. set screen timeout to 15 seconds.
2. look at screen, you will see in 5 seconds the eye icon for smart stay will light up
3. turn your phone at an angle away from your face but enough that you can see the eye icon 5 seconds later.
- this time the screen dims but not turn off.
4. face phone screen again, 5 seconds later eye appears the screen brightens up.
5. repeat step 3, screen dims. then this time remain not looking at screen.
- after dim, 5 seconds later eye checks again and detects you're not facing screen thus it turns off screen.
now some will be thinking, having the front camera turn on at intervals will just use more battery. the thing is,turning the front cam to sense your face for just about 2 seconds at intervals won't consume as much battery consumed as compared to the display still turned on for 15,30seconds,1minute or more even when you're not using the phone.
purpose of smart stay:
1. already well-known since this is what they advertise for this feature, keep light on so you don't have to annoyingly touch the screen at intervals you think the screen timeout is nearing so as not to be inconvenienced by the screen turning off when you are reading or browsing.
2. THIS IS THE MAIN PURPOSE - to turn off display way before the screen timeout because there's no use having the display still on when you're not using the phone. we all know the display is one of the things that can drain battery fast. this is very helpful for those who set there screen timeout to 1minute or more.
note : the time interval for smart stay checking/eye appearing is different for the screen timeout interval you set.
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Also, don't forget to mention "SMART STAY doesn's work in dark". It can't see your face well.
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