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I have this problem using wired or wireless tether. My Eris will connect fine at first but the signal will go away (the 3g indicator goes away and the cellular signal cuts off and then back on). I don't think it happens using pdanet but I'd like wireless tether.
I have tried 6 different roms including froyo. I tried anetshare and it didn't work (I don't think it is updated anyway). I changed many of the settings off and then back on one at a time with no change. Trying to download anything seems to make it happen instantly, while just browsing might go on for several minutes. I thought it might be something verizon had done to detect if you are tethering but I doubt it.
Right now I am using xtrROM 4.2 and the wired tether is better but still cuts off. Wireless tether still drops off quickly upon starting downloads. I'm going to get the latest wireless tether for root users and check for updates for anetshare. I'll keep trying and hopefully one of us will figure it out.
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I have this problem using wired or wireless tether. My Eris will connect fine at first but the signal will go away (the 3g indicator goes away and the cellular signal cuts off and then back on). I don't think it happens using pdanet but I'd like wireless tether.
I have tried 6 different roms including froyo. I tried anetshare and it didn't work (I don't think it is updated anyway). I changed many of the settings off and then back on one at a time with no change. Trying to download anything seems to make it happen instantly, while just browsing might go on for several minutes. I thought it might be something verizon had done to detect if you are tethering but I doubt it.
Right now I am using xtrROM 4.2 and the wired tether is better but still cuts off. Wireless tether still drops off quickly upon starting downloads. I'm going to get the latest wireless tether for root users and check for updates for anetshare. I'll keep trying and hopefully one of us will figure it out.
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This is actually a problem that happens somewhere between your phone, and Verizon.
This happens with every ROM, everywhere, at random.
Sometimes it won't happen to me for a month at a time, sometimes it'll happen every night for weeks straight.
Reboot the phone. Cross your fingers. Next time it boots up, you might be fine for an hour or two. Might not be.
3g just disappears COMPLETELY at random, and removes any connections you have. It's REALLY annoying.
Knock on wood, but it hasn't happened to me in at least a week. I'm on xtrSense 3.1.
I've never had that problem before. Try updating your radio.
I tried more updated ROMs and 3 different radios. Still not working. Right now I'm on nonsensikal froyo 2.2 with radio 2.42.01.04.27. I'm going to update via *228 to see if that makes a difference. I can't see what rebooting would do to change the wireless connection.
Still Losing Connection
Tried some of the new ROMs and 3 different radios. Here is where I am now:
KaosFroyo V35
Kernal Version 2.6.29-DecaFuctCFS-dirty-53d732ab
Baseband Version 2.42.01.04.27 (is this the latest?)
Every time it is the same. I can connect for a while but it seems the longer I'm connected, or if I start a download, I lose my connection (cellular). Sometimes it comes back but not for very long.
PdaNet v2.45 seems to work the longest but sometimes I get a blue screen of death with it.
Wireless Tether Version 2.0.5-pre9 loses connection (cellular) within minutes.
Wired Tether Version 1.4 loses connection (cellular) within minutes.
The built in USB tethering loses connection (cellular) within minutes.
I must be doing something wrong since I can't find anyone that is having this problem anywhere else in the forums. Any help is greatly appreciated!
im having the same problem... tried it on CynoTazz 6.0 and xtrROM4.5
there's no way heat could cause this is there?
or maybe verizon just found a way to throttle heavy data usage?
I haven't tried wireless tethering on the replacement phone I got a a few weeks ago, but I remember having the same problems 3G just going away randomly on my old phone (on KaosFroyo) I'll give it a try tomorrow. As for wired tethering, I'm using EasyTether and my 3G never goes away. I noticed that if I do not let EasyThether stay on the foreground my connection drops sooner or later (3G stays on however), I think that may have something do with AutoKiller.
I'm having the same problem.. it'll disconnect upon using uTorrent while Im downloading a file.. I think it has to do with the app itself because a couple versions ago, I was downloading shows like crazy with little or no interruption. But when I just simply browse the interweb, it never and I mean never disconnects. It also may have to do with Verizon throttling usage
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Do you have JuiceDefender installed? Because that is one of the main problems. I would also try updating your radio.
I use xtrSENSE v4.6 and have always had problems with PDANet and Wired Tethering eventually the 3G dropping. Wired Tethering seemed to work at noticeably faster speeds than PDANet. I used Wireless Tethering extensively recently when reinstalling Windows on a neighbor's Netbook and it never dropped the 3G connection once; through all the Microsoft Updates and such.
I can confirm that occasionally rebooting helps make Wired Tethering work better, and also it seems to work faster and drop less often in the middle of the night. Sometimes Tethering would outright stop working completely (never actually make a connection) and then a reboot did definitely do the trick.
I am also having this problem. It was fine with PDAnet before i rooted and swapped rom's. now I have the same intermittent 3g during wireless tether. I also experience a period late one night around 4am where i was able to watch a full 30min show on hulu with no problems. I'd like to see this resolved. I'm still looking around the forum to see if it's been answered somewhere else...
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I am also having this problem. It was fine with PDAnet before i rooted and swapped rom's. now I have the same intermittent 3g during wireless tether. I also experience a period late one night around 4am where i was able to watch a full 30min show on hulu with no problems. I'd like to see this resolved. I'm still looking around the forum to see if it's been answered somewhere else...
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I was getting bad 3G and I called Verizon and had them do a trouble ticket. My wife's Ally was doing the same thing so I knew it was the network in the area. They did a trouble ticket and it was fixed a few days later. So my advice is to call tech support and report spotty 3G, and make sure that you are talking to tech support and not customer service because I have had CS agents try to do tech support and they always suggest trying to wipe the phone and crap and don't usually know what they are talking about.
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I was getting bad 3G and I called Verizon and had them do a trouble ticket. My wife's Ally was doing the same thing so I knew it was the network in the area. They did a trouble ticket and it was fixed a few days later. So my advice is to call tech support and report spotty 3G, and make sure that you are talking to tech support and not customer service because I have had CS agents try to do tech support and they always suggest trying to wipe the phone and crap and don't usually know what they are talking about.
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I'm in the process of setting up a yx545 signal booster at my house. I've always had pretty low signal since i switched to verizon, so i'm hoping that the booster will fix my problems. My initial installation didn't separate the two antennas properly and so the amp was turning itself down. I'm going to purchase a high-gain outside antenna next and raise it up 10-15 feet on pvc. If the tether problems are solved as a result, i will post it...
We have been having this problem for a long time now. Mine started back in the old days of evil eris 1.0. I believe it is an actual hardware issue with the phone. No matter what rom or radio I use i get horrible signal (never more than 2 bars) and my data connection randomly drops all the time. And its not just my area of the country. I am in the military and have traveled all over the country in the last year and never have i seen more than -80 db.
The first time i took apart my eris i noticed 2 U.fl connectors on the back of the main board. These connectors are what you connect an external antenna to on a computer or any other peice of wireless made these days. So i took a u.fl pigtail and fabricated two 800 mhz antennas and connected them to these connectors. After playing around a bit i finally got a stable signal level of about -70DB to commence my testing. I tested every tethering program, radio and method of tethering and still nothing gave me a consistent connection. So that rules out a bad signal level causing the problems.
It could be two things
1. Our phones radio sucks and drops packets at 3G frequencies thus forcing the phone to drop back to the 1x frequency.
I dont know how the architecture on the phone is designed or what specific frequencies verizon uses in my area but the internal antenna is made for one specific band of frequencies. If the antenna was designed to work the best for 800 mhz and still worked "good enough" for the 1800 mhz band when the phone was developed it could be a manufacturer flaw.
Or i could be wrong and the 2 antennas are actually two separate frequencies. Somebody with more knowledge of the phone could help me here.
2. Verizon has found a way to throttle our data usage. I dont believe it is this one because i tethered to a friends droid incredible last week and had blazing speeds for over an hour on verizon.
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We have been having this problem for a long time now. Mine started back in the old days of evil eris 1.0. I believe it is an actual hardware issue with the phone. No matter what rom or radio I use i get horrible signal (never more than 2 bars) and my data connection randomly drops all the time. And its not just my area of the country. I am in the military and have traveled all over the country in the last year and never have i seen more than -80 db.
The first time i took apart my eris i noticed 2 U.fl connectors on the back of the main board. These connectors are what you connect an external antenna to on a computer or any other peice of wireless made these days. So i took a u.fl pigtail and fabricated two 800 mhz antennas and connected them to these connectors. After playing around a bit i finally got a stable signal level of about -70DB to commence my testing. I tested every tethering program, radio and method of tethering and still nothing gave me a consistent connection. So that rules out a bad signal level causing the problems.
It could be two things
1. Our phones radio sucks and drops packets at 3G frequencies thus forcing the phone to drop back to the 1x frequency.
I dont know how the architecture on the phone is designed or what specific frequencies verizon uses in my area but the internal antenna is made for one specific band of frequencies. If the antenna was designed to work the best for 800 mhz and still worked "good enough" for the 1800 mhz band when the phone was developed it could be a manufacturer flaw.
Or i could be wrong and the 2 antennas are actually two separate frequencies. Somebody with more knowledge of the phone could help me here.
2. Verizon has found a way to throttle our data usage. I dont believe it is this one because i tethered to a friends droid incredible last week and had blazing speeds for over an hour on verizon.
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My Eris has been doing good. I'm on PRL 36060 I think (it's a 36000 series PRL) and had a problem but I called tech support and had them fix a local tower through a trouble ticket since it affected my wife's LG Ally also. I had them fix it and my Rev. A EVDO speeds have been great. You could have a bad phone and maybe a new handset under warranty may not be a bad idea.
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We have been having this problem for a long time now. Mine started back in the old days of evil eris 1.0. I believe it is an actual hardware issue with the phone. No matter what rom or radio I use i get horrible signal (never more than 2 bars) and my data connection randomly drops all the time. And its not just my area of the country. I am in the military and have traveled all over the country in the last year and never have i seen more than -80 db.
The first time i took apart my eris i noticed 2 U.fl connectors on the back of the main board. These connectors are what you connect an external antenna to on a computer or any other peice of wireless made these days. So i took a u.fl pigtail and fabricated two 800 mhz antennas and connected them to these connectors. After playing around a bit i finally got a stable signal level of about -70DB to commence my testing. I tested every tethering program, radio and method of tethering and still nothing gave me a consistent connection. So that rules out a bad signal level causing the problems.
It could be two things
1. Our phones radio sucks and drops packets at 3G frequencies thus forcing the phone to drop back to the 1x frequency.
I dont know how the architecture on the phone is designed or what specific frequencies verizon uses in my area but the internal antenna is made for one specific band of frequencies. If the antenna was designed to work the best for 800 mhz and still worked "good enough" for the 1800 mhz band when the phone was developed it could be a manufacturer flaw.
Or i could be wrong and the 2 antennas are actually two separate frequencies. Somebody with more knowledge of the phone could help me here.
2. Verizon has found a way to throttle our data usage. I dont believe it is this one because i tethered to a friends droid incredible last week and had blazing speeds for over an hour on verizon.
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I am very interested in how you managed to get a pigtail hooked into the back of the eris. I looked around before, and could not find any info on the connector. could you post a picture of your pigtail? did you make it or buy it? a pic of the phone with pigtail with antenna(s) would also be great. Thanks
As i said in an earlier post, I have a Wi-Ex 545 at home now, but it would be very useful to me to have a pigtail to use while pointing the antenna.
also, I am still having 3G dropping while wireless tethering.
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I am very interested in how you managed to get a pigtail hooked into the back of the eris. I looked around before, and could not find any info on the connector. could you post a picture of your pigtail? did you make it or buy it? a pic of the phone with pigtail with antenna(s) would also be great. Thanks
As i said in an earlier post, I have a Wi-Ex 545 at home now, but it would be very useful to me to have a pigtail to use while pointing the antenna.
also, I am still having 3G dropping while wireless tethering.
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I've had 3g randomly cycle off on every Eris I've ever had. Every day.
I don't buy internet at home, I just tether, so I notice.
EVERY rom and radio I've ever had, ever. Ever. I've had 4 eris's.
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I've had this happen on two Eris', in the same household, since I got them Christmas 09. Could any of you please explain this "trouble ticket" and how id go about doing that with tech support? One side note, also- my 3g is spotty and drops during WiFi tether (i also don't pay for internet at my house, so I notice big time), BUT when I use 3g to download torrents on my phone with AndTorrent, its almost flawless, downloads up to 2.14mbps, and never drops/stops/ or switches to 1x. Weird huh? And normally I get terrible 3g service in a small section of southeastern Connecticut that technically isn't covered in Verizons 3g map. So is it safe to say maybe these problems have something to do purely with the wired/wireless tether apps, maybe something with the SU access? I have no idea at all, just trying to throw some ideas around
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I've had this happen on two Eris', in the same household, since I got them Christmas 09. Could any of you please explain this "trouble ticket" and how id go about doing that with tech support? One side note, also- my 3g is spotty and drops during WiFi tether (i also don't pay for internet at my house, so I notice big time), BUT when I use 3g to download torrents on my phone with AndTorrent, its almost flawless, downloads up to 2.14mbps, and never drops/stops/ or switches to 1x. Weird huh? And normally I get terrible 3g service in a small section of southeastern Connecticut that technically isn't covered in Verizons 3g map. So is it safe to say maybe these problems have something to do purely with the wired/wireless tether apps, maybe something with the SU access? I have no idea at all, just trying to throw some ideas around
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I don't really have anything constructive to offer regarding this. From August until just the other day, my phone was my only internet, too, so I have lots of experience with tethering in all sorts of ways as well. I just wanted to say that I didn't have any luck at all using any torrent program on the Android without my 3G shutting down just like it does while heavy tethering. I'm very sure I tried AndTorrent among the others because it sounded like one of the most recommended.
Maybe I'll try it again sometime just to see what happens. What ROM do you use AndTorrent on, again?
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I don't really have anything constructive to offer regarding this. From August until just the other day, my phone was my only internet, too, so I have lots of experience with tethering in all sorts of ways as well. I just wanted to say that I didn't have any luck at all using any torrent program on the Android without my 3G shutting down just like it does while heavy tethering. I'm very sure I tried AndTorrent among the others because it sounded like one of the most recommended.
Maybe I'll try it again sometime just to see what happens. What ROM do you use AndTorrent on, again?
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I'm using AndTorrent 0.89.3 and its worked well on almost every froyo Rom available to us except for conaps 4.3. I've also noticed (only on kaos v39) that HTC_IME almost stops my 3g, so I have to kill it a lot. I set max connections to 25 (highest choice) and leechers to 5. I tend to get the best results when I set the screen time-out to 30 minutes, brightness on dim and just let it sit at night. Now, a few rules of thumb if you do get it to work. 1) I set the search engine to torrentz simply cause you can find more options there. 2) Sometimes TPB torrents don't work (no idea why) 3) I always look for a torrent that 20 seeders or more just to make sure I can get a good amount of connections 4) lastly, my house always has sweet spots for 3g that change all the time but I always try to find one before I torrent lol. I hope some of this helps you. If you send me a PM with your email I can send you the apk too, but I don't know if that'd make a difference.
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Ugh!! I'm about to throw this Vibrant against the wall!
First off, I love this phone! The display is brilliant and battery is one of the best i've had on a smart phone. But I've had one issue that is driving me crazy. Lemme give you the timeline.
1) I bought this phone on the first day of release in June. Loved it! Didn't have any issues.
2) Soon after the 14 days were up, I started having data issues. At first, every so often, whenever I would listen to Pandora or Slacker, after awhile the data connection would "freeze up" and I couldn't connect to the data network. I could occasionally resolve this by rebooting the phone.
3) After awhile, i noticed that the problem got worse. Any data-intensive app or website would cause the data to "freeze". It would be random. Sometimes, I could listen to Pandora or Slacker for hours or sometimes after 5 minutes it would lock up. Rebooting would sometimes work, but usually not. It would just resolve itself, but usually after 30 minutes or more.
4) Now, its basically happening all the time. Even trying to browse to google.com causes data to "freeze". Downloading anything is next to impossible.
I put "freeze" in quotes because i'm not exactly sure what is going on. The notification bar shows 3G with full bars. Knowing that is not always a good indicator, I downloaded mobile signal widget. During these periods of "frozen" data, it would still show 3G or "H" with signal anywhere from -63dBm to over -100dBm. Yet, no matter what, I still cannot connect to anything over the data network.
I've factory reset, reflashed stock, upgraded to JI6 (and JI2 prior), flashed Frankin-Twiz, flashed Bionix, flashed different kernals, no dice. I contacted T-Mobile and they sent a replacement phone. Same issue. I contacted Samsung and they had no idea what it could be.
Please. Can any one of you geniuses help me out? I'm considering going back to my trusty G1 (which does not have the issue), but I'd rather not.
i had similar problem on mine, before the JI6 update. I spent many hours on the phone with Tmo and no success. I had found that rebooting the phone seemed to restore my true data access, but you shouldn't have to do that 5-10 times a day. Eventually they turned on the "Android Web" at a cost of $10 extra a month and then it was less spotty. I don't know what eventually fixed it but it now works so much better. Then JI6 helped out a bunch too. I think somehow rooting it helped, but I don't see how. It doesn't make sense. My best guess is that Tmo signals suck or go down frequently and a bad factory modem points that out more clearly?
Well, I've always had Android Web (at least for the last 2 years), JI6 seemed to make it worse, I've been rooted from almost day 1, and all indicators show that the signal is good.
If I were to have to reboot everytime, it'd be much more than 5-10 times a day.
I would think at -63 dBm you'd have terrific data speeds. Best I've ever seen on my Vibrant here in Dallas is -81 dBm. Even though the notification icon said "3G", in the about section it showed HSDPA. I then ran a speedtest and was averaging 5 mbps download which is fantastic compared to what I get at home. I'm lucky if I get 1 mbps at the house and that's if it doesn't stall out requiring me to force it to 2G. I normally average between -81 dBm to -97 dBm, sometimes over -100.
But my phone has never frozen or anything like that. There have been occasions where the green up arrow will stay solid and I won't be able to use the data. But I think that is due to 3G being kind of ****ty near my house. I never have that problem if I force EDGE.
I am still using the JFD firmware though. I have yet to receive an OTA update and nor do I care. I also don't really care to flash it with ODIN either at this point. I'd rather wait until 2.2 is released....not holding my breath for Samsung/Tmobile though. I think TMO's 3G just sucks in a lot of areas. I have a Blackberry 9700 which gets similar crappy 3G performance. Case in point, I was at a wedding last weekend 10 minutes from my home and coverage was awesome. I never knew what decent HSPA was until then with this phone.
Oh and regarding the battery....while the SGS's battery isn't terrible for a smartphone, it holds nothing...I repeat...nothing...to the Blackberry. Sorry, just had to.
What I am about to say is very unscientific and 100% placebo based. Here goes:
I have always had that same problem. When using the extended battery and backcover, however, it appears to be nonexistent. Using speedtest I am getting upwards of 5 mbps where I previously would only get under 2.
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What I am about to say is very unscientific and 100% placebo based. Here goes:
I have always had that same problem. When using the extended battery and backcover, however, it appears to be nonexistent. Using speedtest I am getting upwards of 5 mbps where I previously would only get under 2.
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Isn't the antenna on the bottom of the phone? Hence the so called 3g death grip. You may be on to something I switched to a different case....the fake carbon fiber samsung with galaxy s on the back and it seems my reception isnt as bad as it was. I dont have to force 2g as much at home. Previous was the casemate tough case. Either that or I'm just holding the phone differently. Or its a placebo affect like you said.
Anyone else have any ideas? Does that logcat help at all? I get a feeling most of the people who know the intricacies of Android don't look at this forum.
Ever since that data outage from 3 weeks ago, me and my wife's thunderbolts have had issues holding 3g/4g connections. The phones willswitch all the way from 4g to no data connection at all during various points in the day. I've tried the mr1 through mr2.5 radios and the issues haven't gone away. Talked to Verizon tech support multiple times and they said they've opened up a trouble ticket to see if its the network or our phones. We stay around Aurora and naperville which are full 4g areas but have had problems in multiple towns. So just wondering if anyone in the Chicago land area or the country for that matter is experiencing the same thing since that outage from a few weeks back.
For reference, I'm running cm7 with mr2 and mr2.5 on my wife's phone. But like I said I've tried different radios already.
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You both are running CM7? Does this happen if you are stock?
Is Aurora / Naperville full 4g? I know going north towards Kenosha I lose 4g around Waukegan
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connection perfectly stable in north side of chicago. i would simply return the phone to stock and exchange it. maybe a bad sim card. do you have problems sticking only to 3g? or does that work pefectly?
Its been acting up since before I installed cm on our phones. They haven't been the same since the data outage. We've had cm for about a week or so and before that we were running mr1 and mr2 with basic root.
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If the phone is fine no need to exchange it just get a new sim. I got thunderbolts for my gf and her brother yesterday and their 4g seemed perfectly stable as I was rooting them the only thing I noticed was it did take a little for 4g to kick in after toggling via lte onoff
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connection perfectly stable in north side of chicago. i would simply return the phone to stock and exchange it. maybe a bad sim card. do you have problems sticking only to 3g? or does that work pefectly?
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3g runs fine. And all of naperville and Aurora are 4g. North Aurora is not as far as I know. And I thought about the sim being bad but I don't think that's very likely for 2 phonesphones
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Hey rygel411, does this sound like your situation?
1) Boot phone up fresh full reboot
2) Phone grabs a 3g/4g signal instantly and holds it for several hours fine
3) Randomly when you power on the display, you are missing a 3g/4g icon but have full bars
4) Checking under Wireless Network settings, Mobile Networks is OFF and WON'T turn on
5) Reboot solves the problem or Wait approx 2-4 hours and it solves itself randomly without doing anything
Does this sound like your situation? No 3g/4g icons and no data connection, and unable to turn data back on without a reboot or waiting a long time? Cuz if so this is exactly what happens to me and I live in central NJ. I always get perfect 3G signal on all my phones, even in my house. And my data speeds are generally good; 1500-3000kbps on 3G.
I am running MR2 Das BAMF Gingerstripped with Imoseyon's 3.4.0 GB Kernel. It IS related to Gingerbread, as my girlfriends Thunderbolt running full stock does not see this issue at all.
Similar but not exactly, both phones were acting up before I had gingerbread on them
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I am in the western suburbs (Oak Park, River Forest) and I don't have any issues at all along the I-88 corridor out to Route 59. That's about as far into Naperville as I drive. 4G the whole way, no dropped calls.
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Hey rygel411, does this sound like your situation?
1) Boot phone up fresh full reboot
2) Phone grabs a 3g/4g signal instantly and holds it for several hours fine
3) Randomly when you power on the display, you are missing a 3g/4g icon but have full bars
4) Checking under Wireless Network settings, Mobile Networks is OFF and WON'T turn on
5) Reboot solves the problem or Wait approx 2-4 hours and it solves itself randomly without doing anything
Does this sound like your situation? No 3g/4g icons and no data connection, and unable to turn data back on without a reboot or waiting a long time? Cuz if so this is exactly what happens to me and I live in central NJ. I always get perfect 3G signal on all my phones, even in my house. And my data speeds are generally good; 1500-3000kbps on 3G.
I am running MR2 Das BAMF Gingerstripped with Imoseyon's 3.4.0 GB Kernel. It IS related to Gingerbread, as my girlfriends Thunderbolt running full stock does not see this issue at all.
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I'm in Chicago and I do have this same problem from time to time. Over the last couple days it has been better but still happens
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I'm in Chicago and I do have this same problem from time to time. Over the last couple days it has been better but still happens
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Just wondering but are you on MR2? Because if anything its either that or the ROM, and I am more or less thinking its the radio. Could be why we didn't see this radio OTA yet.
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Just wondering but are you on MR2? Because if anything its either that or the ROM, and I am more or less thinking its the radio. Could be why we didn't see this radio OTA yet.
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I'm on 2.5, not sure of it's radio related or their network because I had Zero problems before with this configuration.
I was on 2.5. Then I downloaded the cm7 update that dropped a couple of hours ago and I was getting horrendous speeds with it, barely 1mbps. So I downgraded to mr2 and now I'm back between 7 and 13. I'm thinking about downgrading to the froyo radio and installing the cm7 compatible version with it.
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I was in Chicago this past weekend and noticed that my data was spacing out a lot. My GF on an un-rooted Tbolt was fine the whole weekend as best as I could tell.
I am on Sense 3.0 MR 2.5 Radio.
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I was in Chicago this past weekend and noticed that my data was spacing out a lot. My GF on an un-rooted Tbolt was fine the whole weekend as best as I could tell.
I am on Sense 3.0 MR 2.5 Radio.
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This is exactly my finding, just in New Jersey instead of Chicago. I would like to see explicit details on what exactly happens when you folks lose your data connection, and what happens when you try to toggle certain settings (ie - plane mode, mobile network, etc)
Especially one particular detail. When you lose your data connection, is there a 1x icon in the notification bar, or are there NO icons next to your signal. That will determine if we're having a connection problem to Verizon, or if our ROM's/Radio's are the culprit.
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This is exactly my finding, just in New Jersey instead of Chicago. I would like to see explicit details on what exactly happens when you folks lose your data connection, and what happens when you try to toggle certain settings (ie - plane mode, mobile network, etc)
Especially one particular detail. When you lose your data connection, is there a 1x icon in the notification bar, or are there NO icons next to your signal. That will determine if we're having a connection problem to Verizon, or if our ROM's/Radio's are the culprit.
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I have the same exact problem as the OP. I live in Wheaton, work in Carol Stream and go to Chicago every weekend because my girlfriend lives there. 4G and 3G CONSTANTLY go in and out when trying to use them. The 4G icon diappears and then reappears. It doesn't switch over to 3G or 1X. The icon just disappears, displays full bars for a second in grey, 4G icon comes back in grey with 1-2 bars in grey and then goes green after 10-20 seconds or so. It's so ****ing annoying.
I'm running the latest CM7 build with 0223r radio. I've tried MR2 and MR 2.5 and have no luck. It's driving me nuts. It's not CM7 either. I was running rooted stock and it was doing the same thing.
I was getting symptoms like it was shutting on and off. Mine works fine with no changes in the Tampa area.
BAMF THUNDERBOLT
dbisch said:
I have the same exact problem as the OP. I live in Wheaton, work in Carol Stream and go to Chicago every weekend because my girlfriend lives there. 4G and 3G CONSTANTLY go in and out when trying to use them. The 4G icon diappears and then reappears. It doesn't switch over to 3G or 1X. The icon just disappears, displays full bars for a second in grey, 4G icon comes back in grey with 1-2 bars in grey and then goes green after 10-20 seconds or so. It's so ****ing annoying.
I'm running the latest CM7 build with 0223r radio. I've tried MR2 and MR 2.5 and have no luck. It's driving me nuts. It's not CM7 either. I was running rooted stock and it was doing the same thing.
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i only see this problem while tethering. if i try too many connections (open windows at same time) the 4g disappears for a second or two then it comes back. other than that (chicago north side) my 4g has been flawless. never switched to 3g either.
mobile connection issues on HTC Thunderbolt
Hi,
Did anyone ever figure out connection issues with HTC Thunderbolt? I have the exact issue that DaRkL3AD3R discussed in July.
My Thunderbolt just started doing almost the identical thing as he posted. Can't get on internet unless I wait, boot, whatever - almost identical to what you stated. Connection seems to be connected but it is not. I am new to "messing" around with my phone but this cuased me to root and boot but still on the Gingerbread os. It is driving me batty! It started about Mar 25 or so and I thought booting would help. Do you know if it may be the radio and are there other versions I can try? Someone mentioned new PRI version? Thanks for any pointing in the right direction!
tl;dr - TB is losing connectivity, almost no 4G, do I flash new radio? Which one? (post sounds less ignorant)
Out of nowhere I started to experience some really crippling internet & data issues. To be fair, I'm running CM7.1.1 which says that it has some known data issues, but I think these are a bit much.
I started to lose 4G connectivity completely - the symbol will show up on the screen, but just won't connect to anything. If I change the network mode to CDMA / EvDo it usually will pick up 3G at OK speeds, and will usually have 2-3 bars for regular cell coverage. 3G will work in and out, in for the most part. 4G I have managed to get up for about an hour, and now I can't get it at all.
Previously, I had a few disconnect issues but I'd reboot and everything would fix up quickly. I've done about 15-20 reboots in the past three days to no avail.
I figured that it might have something to do with radios... I spent a solid half hour or so researching flashing RUU's (how to, problems, etc.) and there is a LOT of conflicting information. Would flashing a new RUU help my issue? I think that it might... I'm currently on baseband 1.39.00.0627r (From the 1.70.605.0 RUU), and the latest is MUCH more recent.
I'd love some help / advice with if I should flash a new radio, which one, and if there is anything beyond the regular flashing / warnings that I need to worry about. Also, should I flash both LTE & CDMA separately? The names of the zip files are the same...one at a time? probably a noob question?
Hope this wasn't a repost of something, but I did a search first and couldn't see anything quite the same as this. Googled as well.
Cheers
Try ThunderShed it is much more up to date than the version you're running.
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Thanks! If I flash a new radio is it going to wipe the device anyway? I wouldn't mind keeping my current setup, but if it's going to wipe there's no reason NOT to just upgrade to ThunderShed.
No. Try the radio that came with the newest ota. That's the one I'm using and it is working well.
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Those didn't help much at all... I'm just going to flash ThunderShed and I'll bet anything I'm going to have better luck with that!
Exact samething started to happen with me except I'm running liquid gingerbread 3.2. Out of nowhere. My wife's thunderbolt gets great 4g connection but mine only 3g. I flashed latest radio but no dice. Wonder what's going on. I'm about to reset.
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I've had the same problem twice before.
First off, I normally use only around 4GB of data a month, except during months that I have to travel. I never, ever tether (too risky).
In December 2011, I went to go visit some family over the Christmas/New Year's break. They rarely use the internet, so they opted for a cheap dialup home connection. Luckily for me though, the area was covered by LTE. In order to keep myself occupied, I streamed some Netflix, Hulu, Youtube, and other videos to my phone. After around 20GB of usage, 4G and 3G just died. Despite me changing around from CDMA Only to CDMA Only (PRL) to LTE, I was only able to pick up 1x. Flashing new radios didn't fix it, flashing new ROMs didn't fix it, leaving the battery out overnight didn't fix it, travelling an hour away to another family member's house (different tower) didn't fix it, getting a new SIM card didn't fix it, getting escalated to Tier 3 support didn't fix it, completely formatting the phone and installing official RUUs didn't fix it. I spent about a week trying to diagnose the problem, and was about to just use my insurance to get a replacement. Put my phone in the charger one night, went to bed, woke up, and 4G and 3G were back, about exactly 7 days after it first went down. Very odd, but I just chalked it up to a system glitch.
However, the same thing happened again in May 2012. Again, I visited my family and watched videos streamed to my phone to keep me occupied. About 10GB into the month, I had to leave for a trip to the other side of the country. While there, I had some downtime a couple of evenings to watch some movies. At 15GB, a similar thing happened. I was unable to connect to 4G, but 3G (albeit terrible connection) and 1x (faster and more reliable than 3G actually) worked fine. I thought that maybe the tower I was connected to was just experimenting with 4G before officially flipping the switch. However, no matter where I went, I was still restricted to 3G and 1x. After a 2000 mile flight back home, I was still restricted to terrible 3G and 1x. Again, after about a week, the problem went away and I was able to get on 4G again.
So, either my phone gets finicky when I have a lot of data usage, or Verizon likes to temp. ban 4G users who use lots of data in a short period of time.
You, my friend, were being throttled. That is exactly what happens when you get throttled.
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My data usage was less if anything. You sound like you were getting throttled, I wasn't... mine are just obnoxious connectivity issues.
I flashed (and am still working on) Thundershed now, it's a beautiful ROM - I'd recommend to anyone running CM7.1.1 on TB to just switch over... it's the same thing (base CM9) and you get ICS as well which seems to have increased the performance anyway.
There were other annoying bugs with the TB build of CM7.1.1 such as the inability to have headphones in the phone while talking (people just couldn't hear you) and some weird proximity sensor issues on phone calls.
Hopefully this new ROM is going to take care of the issues that previously annoyed me... the TB is a great phone and I'm glad I'm going to be able to get the most out of it now.
Thanks for the tip off to that ROM, disconecktie!
Yea its a fantastic rom. I ran sheds stuff on the Eris for around 2 years and if it wasn't for him that device would have died quick.
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And now you're running this on your TB? Yeah, seems like the dev community over there really has a lot of respect... he's active and does bug fixes too, really great stuff. Cheers
He's a great dev but you wont see him on xda. People over here pissed him off. I didn't like 1.5 much but the fixes he brought to 1.6 made this rom awesome again.
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As far as ur radio issue I was having the exact same problem yesterday and I live in the southern California area. My girl was perfect 3g on her dinc, I couldn't get any data at all and when I did, only 3g. Killed my battery quick too cuz it kept having to reconnect. Quite annoying, seems to b better today tho. Could of been just an off day. It was weird too cuz i finally shelled out for a rezound battery and that was my first day experience. Lol I thought it was the battery till today when its been solid all day. Running gsb 3.3b btw with imos kernel.
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My data usage was less if anything. You sound like you were getting throttled, I wasn't... mine are just obnoxious connectivity issues.
I flashed (and am still working on) Thundershed now, it's a beautiful ROM - I'd recommend to anyone running CM7.1.1 on TB to just switch over... it's the same thing (base CM9) and you get ICS as well which seems to have increased the performance anyway.
There were other annoying bugs with the TB build of CM7.1.1 such as the inability to have headphones in the phone while talking (people just couldn't hear you) and some weird proximity sensor issues on phone calls.
Hopefully this new ROM is going to take care of the issues that previously annoyed me... the TB is a great phone and I'm glad I'm going to be able to get the most out of it now.
Thanks for the tip off to that ROM, disconecktie!
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Tshed isn't cm9. Its themed cm7.
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.19 radios
I'm running Thundershed 1.6 w/ imo lean 184 6.2.1 using the .19 radios and other than having the GSM and LTE options ALL available to choose from, I'm having no issues at all. The 605.9 radios are very stable too. Hope this helps!
I suspect Verizon was working on the network for the past week or so. I had issues too, nothing big and I saw a few posts on AC where people had issues too. It seems to have resolved itself now.
I am in southern Cali too having the.same issue 4G goes in and out, 3g is solid I don't think I am near anywhere 4gigs...
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Hello all. First post. I'm a noob. Watched the video.
I see this post is 3 months old.
I'm having similar issues at home in Tyler, TX (we have 4G). One day my Verizon thunderbolt signal drops to 1X or nothing at all as far as data. This happens for several days. Verizon creates a ticket and calls me 2 days later to tell me it's not them. I travel to northern Kentucky (cincinnati area) to visit my son. Issue follows me to Kentucky. I root phone but am still using stock rom b/c I don't have a clue what I'm doing!
I travel to Dallas and my phone is healed. Blazingly fast. I can't keep up with it - it's so awesome. I decide I like this piece of crap after 1 year of hating it.
I travel home to Tyler today. I'm back to 1X or nothing at all.
Questions: So do I flash a rom with a different radio??? Is that how I can get a better signal? Scared straight b/c I have an E-key app that I use to get me into homes (home inspector) and I can't afford to have that app not work.
Thanks in advance
Bruce Noob
jbt816 said:
Hello all. First post. I'm a noob. Watched the video.
I see this post is 3 months old.
I'm having similar issues at home in Tyler, TX (we have 4G). One day my Verizon thunderbolt signal drops to 1X or nothing at all as far as data. This happens for several days. Verizon creates a ticket and calls me 2 days later to tell me it's not them. I travel to northern Kentucky (cincinnati area) to visit my son. Issue follows me to Kentucky. I root phone but am still using stock rom b/c I don't have a clue what I'm doing!
I travel to Dallas and my phone is healed. Blazingly fast. I can't keep up with it - it's so awesome. I decide I like this piece of crap after 1 year of hating it.
I travel home to Tyler today. I'm back to 1X or nothing at all.
Questions: So do I flash a rom with a different radio??? Is that how I can get a better signal? Scared straight b/c I have an E-key app that I use to get me into homes (home inspector) and I can't afford to have that app not work.
Thanks in advance
Bruce Noob
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I live in overton tx and I don't have that problem. Maybe try getting a new sim. You may also check to make sure the golden tabs on the back of your phone are in good shape and make contact with the gold pads on the battery cover.
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I know the custom ROMs have a few nice features and clean up some dead wood.
But do any absolutely Fix any of the network issues?
For the record I'm considering OMJ's or Flipz's.
Some background for my question if you interested.
This phone is really starting to suck (Stock Rooted only, no mods).
I really wanted to hold out for possible S-OFF to try any custom ROMs but the phone is becoming useless without doing something.
Last weekend I used my Wifes EVO 3D (my old phone with MeanROM ICS 2.2 on it).
I Tethered from West of Boston to Central NH (2 hr 20 min drive) with out a glitch.
Phone was running Navigation and WIFI Tethered the whole way.
Not one glitch. I've done it many times. My wifes former Touch Pro 2 and EVO 4G was also just as reliable.
Same trip this weekend with the EVO 4G LTE.
Laptop lost WIFI connection to EVO 4G LTE like 5 times.
Sometimes I could get it back by reconnecting or restarting WIFI Tether.
Other times I had to reboot phone, and other times I had to reboot the Laptop to get it back. It just flat out refused to see the phone any more. Even tried shutting WIFI off on laptop and phone, but no, PC or Phone required a reboot not always the same either.
It was also fairly slow and laggy. Just aweful.
When I leave my house with WIFI on, the EVO LTE phone stays connected to WIFI and gets no data until I shut WIFI off. It works fine if I leave work with WIFI on though.
I know there are patches to remove smartsync in several ROMs but the phone was not going to sleep during most of these issues (Had Nav running).
You would need a ROM where someone actually rewrote some code . That's probably not going to happen till source comes out
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You would need a ROM where someone actually rewrote some code . That's probably not going to happen till source comes out
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That might be true but certainly not always true.
And if it is "code" I must depend on that get fixed it's likely a driver and most developers on XDA don't do drivers.
And that "code" could also be on the Radio Side (where I suspect the real issues are) and that code is never released.
Doing things like enabling the 2nd Core full time (which is enabled on my EVEO 3D) might make things run more stable. I don't know.
Most "code" on my EVO 3D is "stock" it's just borrowed from different phones and some build.prop tweaks.
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I know the custom ROMs have a few nice features and clean up some dead wood.
But do any absolutely Fix any of the network issues?
For the record I'm considering OMJ's or Flipz's.
Some background for my question if you interested.
This phone is really starting to suck (Stock Rooted only, no mods).
I really wanted to hold out for possible S-OFF to try any custom ROMs but the phone is becoming useless without doing something.
Last weekend I used my Wifes EVO 3D (my old phone with MeanROM ICS 2.2 on it).
I Tethered from West of Boston to Central NH (2 hr 20 min drive) with out a glitch.
Phone was running Navigation and WIFI Tethered the whole way.
Not one glitch. I've done it many times. My wifes former Touch Pro 2 and EVO 4G was also just as reliable.
Same trip this weekend with the EVO 4G LTE.
Laptop lost WIFI connection to EVO 4G LTE like 5 times.
Sometimes I could get it back by reconnecting or restarting WIFI Tether.
Other times I had to reboot phone, and other times I had to reboot the Laptop to get it back. It just flat out refused to see the phone any more. Even tried shutting WIFI off on laptop and phone, but no, PC or Phone required a reboot not always the same either.
It was also fairly slow and laggy. Just aweful.
When I leave my house with WIFI on, the EVO LTE phone stays connected to WIFI and gets no data until I shut WIFI off. It works fine if I leave work with WIFI on though.
I know there are patches to remove smartsync in several ROMs but the phone was not going to sleep during most of these issues (Had Nav running).
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Just my experience : zero difference in connectivity issues (cellular or WiFi) . Previous 3d and OGEVO both had their issues but in the exact same locations I used them ( work WiFi home WiFi commute cellular) -this thing is just bad comparitively. Wireless N (100Mgps down from Cisco rtr) at office drops CONSTANTLY and even just running l navigation will drop out from suburbs to city ( Chicago ) . Go to Mexico this week and I was there in December and was stunned how well Telcel''s network operated ( very fast 3g no dropped calls - thank god work picks up the tab). New York and San Francisco the week after in which I am very familiar with how my service usually acts so ill have some controls to measure against. Very dissapointing so far LTE can't get here glfast enough- realize I veered slightly off topic but , no, I haven't seen any major difference other than great battery life on Vipers
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For the record I am currently using Viper ROM and I currently have absolutely no issues paring the phone to my car via Bluetooth in comparison to the stock ROM where my phone will not hold a bluetooth connection.
Dude, honestly, u need to take your phone back and exchange it. Had the same problem with WiFi dropping constantly, about every 5 seconds. Would go to 3g then WiFi. Sometimes switching settings would help, tried rooting and did numerous roms, fixes, mods, but the problem was still there.
Well, I took my phone back bc I bricked the secure element somehow and my new phone has none of those issues. I believe it is a faulty receiver/radio. Trust me and take it back for a new one before your 30 days is up. U will thank me.
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I got my evo this past friday and I've been using my wifi more than my 3G and i haven't had problems. May wanna take it back and have them check it out.
mswlogo said:
I know the custom ROMs have a few nice features and clean up some dead wood.
But do any absolutely Fix any of the network issues?
For the record I'm considering OMJ's or Flipz's.
Some background for my question if you interested.
This phone is really starting to suck (Stock Rooted only, no mods).
I really wanted to hold out for possible S-OFF to try any custom ROMs but the phone is becoming useless without doing something.
Last weekend I used my Wifes EVO 3D (my old phone with MeanROM ICS 2.2 on it).
I Tethered from West of Boston to Central NH (2 hr 20 min drive) with out a glitch.
Phone was running Navigation and WIFI Tethered the whole way.
Not one glitch. I've done it many times. My wifes former Touch Pro 2 and EVO 4G was also just as reliable.
Same trip this weekend with the EVO 4G LTE.
Laptop lost WIFI connection to EVO 4G LTE like 5 times.
Sometimes I could get it back by reconnecting or restarting WIFI Tether.
Other times I had to reboot phone, and other times I had to reboot the Laptop to get it back. It just flat out refused to see the phone any more. Even tried shutting WIFI off on laptop and phone, but no, PC or Phone required a reboot not always the same either.
It was also fairly slow and laggy. Just aweful.
When I leave my house with WIFI on, the EVO LTE phone stays connected to WIFI and gets no data until I shut WIFI off. It works fine if I leave work with WIFI on though.
I know there are patches to remove smartsync in several ROMs but the phone was not going to sleep during most of these issues (Had Nav running).
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I'm in RI and kept my Evo og just for tethering. If you were satisfied with the 3d, then the lte will seem more effectual in fringe area reception. Though not as good as the OG in my particular area. The og bounces across a bay without issues. Did I just say sprint has shoddy coverage? Whoops. Didn't mean to.
What I'm getting to is that the risk of depending on htc unlock, vs new radios might be worth evaluating.
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Dude, honestly, u need to take your phone back and exchange it. Had the same problem with WiFi dropping constantly, about every 5 seconds. Would go to 3g then WiFi. Sometimes switching settings would help, tried rooting and did numerous roms, fixes, mods, but the problem was still there.
Well, I took my phone back bc I bricked the secure element somehow and my new phone has none of those issues. I believe it is a faulty receiver/radio. Trust me and take it back for a new one before your 30 days is up. U will thank me.
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Thanks for the data point.
I did try calling Sprint and the tech said I need to shut WIFI off when I leave home and work. They were clueless. After I explained to them how it's supposed to work they said I need to have tech look at it.
Yeah I'm sure they can repeat the problems at will. Some days it's fine.
I don't get WIFI drop outs. Biggest problem is it won't let go of the WIFI when I leave home and that locks data up until I toggle the WIFI enable. Leaving work it's fine.
I have put a custom ROM on it now (flipz). And it's running better. But did have to switch it to 2.4Ghz only again. I do like some the custom ROM features and it allows be to better monitor Data (since it show 1x or 3x) and I can do full nandroid backup to compare changes.
However I did see the bouncey thing when you wake it goes to WIFI to 3G to WIFI again and that I believe is a sign of it struggling.
Then I looked into my Router for more settings to play with and learned Bluetooth can interfere with WIFI (i.e. there are settings for it in my router).
I'm 99% sure this is the problem (and may or may not be the phones fault).
This would explain why a "new" phone could fix an issue because each time you pair a bluetooth device it may choose a different channel. Some channels will conflict with WIFI more than others.
It may explain why some people have no issues too. Can depend on your bluetooth devices as well.
I started a seperate thread on this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721196
I'm amazed nobody has responded.
For grins I left Bluetooth off today and it has run flawless. It didn't get stuck on WIFI when I leave home and it always did.
I need to dig into how to check what channel bluetooth is paired on and how I can control what channel is uses.
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Thanks for the data point.
I did try calling Sprint and the tech said I need to shut WIFI off when I leave home and work. They were clueless. After I explained to them how it's supposed to work they said I need to have tech look at it.
Yeah I'm sure they can repeat the problems at will. Some days it's fine.
I don't get WIFI drop outs. Biggest problem is it won't let go of the WIFI when I leave home and that locks data up until I toggle the WIFI enable. Leaving work it's fine.
I have put a custom ROM on it now (flipz). And it's running better. But did have to switch it to 2.4Ghz only again. I do like some the custom ROM features and it allows be to better monitor Data (since it show 1x or 3x) and I can do full nandroid backup to compare changes.
However I did see the bouncey thing when you wake it goes to WIFI to 3G to WIFI again and that I believe is a sign of it struggling.
Then I looked into my Router for more settings to play with and learned Bluetooth can interfere with WIFI (i.e. there are settings for it in my router).
I'm 99% sure this is the problem (and may or may not be the phones fault).
This would explain why a "new" phone could fix an issue because each time you pair a bluetooth device it may choose a different channel. Some channels will conflict with WIFI more than others.
It may explain why some people have no issues too. Can depend on your bluetooth devices as well.
I started a seperate thread on this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721196
I'm amazed nobody has responded.
For grins I left Bluetooth off today and it has run flawless. It didn't get stuck on WIFI when I leave home and it always did.
I need to dig into how to check what channel bluetooth is paired on and how I can control what channel is uses.
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I think you're onto something... If I leave the house and wifi sticks on, then I normally have to reboot phone before I can connect to wifi again. Simply toggling wifi off and on doesn't work.
So on a whim, I turned off bluetooth. Then turned wifi off and back on, and bam! Connected! Hmmmm....
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For the record I am currently using Viper ROM and I currently have absolutely no issues paring the phone to my car via Bluetooth in comparison to the stock ROM where my phone will not hold a bluetooth connection.
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Weird. I had opposite. Rooted, S-off and flashed MeanROM which really liked but bluetooth on one of my cars that was foolproof on stock became very hard to connect. Went back to stock and connects fine again. Miss the customization and may try again. Was a good exercise putting back to stock if ever need to return phone to Sprint.