Vibrant 4g radio - Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Would it ne possible to swap the radio from the vibrant 4g into the vibrant?
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i dont know anything about iy and i might be lway off but i like to comment i think it wont work because its different modem so different drivers apply as cor 3g moded from 4g phone is the same so there is nothing new to port to this phone

kingkurry said:
Would it ne possible to swap the radio from the vibrant 4g into the vibrant?
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No it will not work. We will never have true 4g on the vibrant. We are hardware limited and not software limited for 4g.
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No, 4G radio does not work on the Vibrant. And as of now the 4G kernel will not allow data to work.

I think the OP is asking if the hardware could be swapped.
The answer is the same, though - not bloody likely.
-bZj

down8 said:
I think the OP is asking if the hardware could be swapped.
The answer is the same, though - not bloody likely.
-bZj
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Yep, but I hope someone eventually tries, if its even possible.

Now, could I flash a Vibrant 4G modem and get the 3G bands it supports? I am desperate trying to find a way to make the Vibrant work on 900Mhz or should there be no way, on 850Mhz(and switch carriers). I know the 4G supports 3G at 900Mhz... Is there any way to have either frequency running on this phone? What modem would I need?
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4g on my vibrant

I was wondering if there is ne way I can get a 4g signal/connection on my vibrant. I am runnin nero v3 wit voodoo. If there is where can I get the files and what do I have to do?
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Nope.
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Yea, go to any area with "4g". I get upwards over 5 mbps down where I live.
Chalup said:
Yea, go to any area with "4g". I get upwards over 5 mbps down where I live.
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Not 4g.
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mr.orange303 said:
Not 4g.
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Depending on what you consider 4G....
http://www.thetelecomblog.com/2010/06/05/t-mobile’s-3g-network-faster-than-sprint’s-4g-network/
4g is a hardware difference, not software. The regular vibrant does not support 4g, but it does benefit from it since T-mo's towers are updated, therefore putting out more data, resulting in you being able to reach max DL speeds - hopefully 6 to 7 megs, which in my opinion is plenty.
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Kool thanx everyone
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nnk61209 said:
I was wondering if there is ne way I can get a 4g signal/connection on my vibrant. I am runnin nero v3 wit voodoo. If there is where can I get the files and what do I have to do?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=709
this thread is getting interesting. if its really true that the vibrants chip really does support 14.4mbps but is soft capped,then this could be a break through in development.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=709
this thread is getting interesting. if its really true that the vibrants chip really does support 14.4mbps but is soft capped,then this could be a break through in development.
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The vibrant 4g will give us all kinds of goodies. We'll see.
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Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I was thinking that the ONLY thing we need to do to get 4G from our 3g+ vibrant is to flash the 4G vibrant modem , when we have one.
The phone itself is locked to what frequencies it can use as well as what technology by the antenna, AND the modem. T-Mo is NOT going to spend millions on new technology that half of its phones cannot utilize, hence why our 3G vibrants have access to "3.5G", which is technically "HDPA", and not "HSDPA", right? The new 4G tech is all ip based, so all the phone would need is a properly encoded modem file to get it to work.
I mean think about it guys, does anyone own an analog race scanner? If yes, have you ever tried to tune into the digital frequencies? You get a modem-like digital noise out of it, because your radio lacks the software to decode the signal properly.
It sounds plausible in theory I suppose, but I can guarantee you this, IF it's possible xda-dev WILL be the first to know, I know I'll be trying it as soon as I see a modem upload!
Master tweeted that there were several 4G icons in the KA6 leak... Curious if it's the Vibrant + leak?
Where can I get the ka6 leak? Does ne1 no if it has the 4g
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nnk61209 said:
Where can I get the ka6 leak? Does ne1 no if it has the 4g
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=868774
Flashable via ODIN or CWM.
As far as the 4G, I hope someone else who has played with the KA6 can opine. I literally just flashed the new modem like 2 hours ago. I do not notice an increase at my desk here at work, but I have not gotten to play with it outside where the signal is stronger. Fastest I've seen on my phone is with JL1, and that was just under 6mbps down practically standing underneath a tower.
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Where can I get the ka6 leak? Does ne1 no if it has the 4g
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as far as 4g goes, theres been a rumor that the chip in the vibrant is capable of handling 14.4mbps but is soft capped. theres a whole thread abt this rumor. mainly someone did a complete tear down of the i9000 and looked up the chips part # and specs. since the i9000 and vibrant is almost identical,its believed that the vibrant may also contain the same chip. whether this is true or not,no one will know until someone does a complete tear down of a vibrant. as of now,the vibrant can only go up to 7.2mbps .
I want to flash but I think I am gonna wait til some1 can verify thats its faster and everything.
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I just flashed ka6 modem and its faster than what I had.
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as far as 4g goes, theres been a rumor that the chip in the vibrant is capable of handling 14.4mbps but is soft capped. theres a whole thread abt this rumor. mainly someone did a complete tear down of the i9000 and looked up the chips part # and specs. since the i9000 and vibrant is almost identical,its believed that the vibrant may also contain the same chip. whether this is true or not,no one will know until someone does a complete tear down of a vibrant. as of now,the vibrant can only go up to 7.2mbps .
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I loss all hope on 4G is not because of having it or not,i was happy with the 4MB mine was getting,but 4G on my Vibrant mean that i will get even faster to the capping line of Thief-Mobile.
eltormo said:
I loss all hope on 4G is not because of having it or not,i was happy with the 4MB mine was getting,but 4G on my Vibrant mean that i will get even faster to the capping line of Thief-Mobile.
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Thank you for your concern eltormo. I'm sorry that you are upset about T-Mobile's ability to throttle your services at their whim. Your contract Terms & Conditions are open-ended, leaving tmo the ability to provide you as little data as they want. You technically are not being capped. It's frustrating to all of us, but as it stands, it is still the best offering out there.
All that being said, your post is irrelevant to this thread topic, so please take it back to the [THINK TANK] thread you were on earlier if you would like to complain about throttling.
In case you lost your way: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=872570
^^ that's funny!
I dont see how the speed of what you download effects, how much you download? Cap or throttle... Blah blah, more speed is a good thing. I for one hope that the vibrant does have the 4g chip, not just for obvious reasons, but it would be awesome to see what would happen in the general section. :gets popcorn ready: Then again I'm not holding my breathe.

[Q] 4G

So has anyone found a way to enable 4G on the vibrants?
Thanks
not gonna happen. our radio physically can't (wasn't built to) handle that speed.
I have two friends one with a galaxy 4g the other with a infuse 4g and my vibrant is faster than both of them. They both get around 2.5 down and 1 up. I rountinly get 3.5-6 down and 1.5-3 up on my vib......im good with vib...then again their phones are stock so maybe their not being utilized to full potential
Thanks for the quick reply guys.
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not gonna happen. our radio physically can't (wasn't built to) handle that speed.
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well i saw on the internet that they sell the replacement 4g module for the vibrant 4G. you think changing that might help us get 4G?
cwalker0906 said:
I have two friends one with a galaxy 4g the other with a infuse 4g and my vibrant is faster than both of them. They both get around 2.5 down and 1 up. I rountinly get 3.5-6 down and 1.5-3 up on my vib......im good with vib...then again their phones are stock so maybe their not being utilized to full potential
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What rom are you using??
The best you can get is 3.5 G, our vibrant not capable of 4 G
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how do you get that?
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how do you get that?
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3.5g has been lumped into normal 3g. 3.5g is the speeds at about 3mbps and up. And you automatically get that when in the range of a tower that supports that speed.
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oh okay i understand now. im surprised no one has made a mod to recieve 4G
Ram1500 said:
oh okay i understand now. im surprised no one has made a mod to recieve 4G
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No one has made a mod because the 4g modem is a surface mount device, and more than likely isn't anywhere near the same shape nor will it likely be the same pinout as the vibrant 3g modem.
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okay guess it'll have to stay like that. thanks for the reply
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Thanks for the quick reply guys.
well i saw on the internet that they sell the replacement 4g module for the vibrant 4G. you think changing that might help us get 4G?
What rom are you using??
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On multiple roms...toxic...tard....did u try the build prop tweaks in dev.forum...they do work
no but for that ill have to be rooted right?
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no but for that ill have to be rooted right?
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Yes...when i first got here i was scared to break my phone and even confused with terminology....but it was the best thing i did. The stock version does not even come close to tapping into the potential of this phone...just read and read again...watch some tutorials and take the jump...you wont be disappointed...besides this phone is almost impossible to completely brick.....good luck
4G,is joke.
tmobile does not have 4g, that is fake.
only 3g
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3G speeds on Simple Mobile

Hi. Is there any way to boost the 3g speed of simple mobile. My phone is not on their approved phones but I just tried copying the apn settings of another sgs2 but not I777. Thanks in advance
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The i777 doesn't have the bands for Simple Mobile's 3g. I'm pretty sure you'll just be stuck with EDGE.
jlalisan82 said:
Hi. Is there any way to boost the 3g speed of simple mobile. My phone is not on their approved phones but I just tried copying the apn settings of another sgs2 but not I777. Thanks in advance
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Our phone should be supported. I mean they have the international version ours should work on there faux 4g.
Are they a T-Mobile reseller or AT&T reseller? If TMo, no 3G for you.
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Entropy512 said:
Are they a T-Mobile reseller or AT&T reseller? If TMo, no 3G for you.
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Yup, its TMo
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chibixzero said:
Our phone should be supported. I mean they have the international version ours should work on there faux 4g.
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WCDMA 850 / 1900 / 2100.. this is the spec for the radiio part supoporting your 3g/4g magic.. that 1900 is no good cause tombile is 1700... 100% non-compatible unless you get a world phone...
Mine is the AT&T one. Yeah, simple mobile said if it's not supported then it will only work with EDGE. I wish there's another way of 'tricking' the network that you have the band that they support.
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jlalisan82 said:
Mine is the AT&T one. Yeah, simple mobile said if it's not supported then it will only work with EDGE. I wish there's another way of 'tricking' the network that you have the band that they support.
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So you think you should be able to trick the network into thinking you have hardware that you don't? For what purpose? I mean you still wouldn't have the physical hardware required.
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That's why i'm asking if there's a way to trick the network. I mean like changing the baseband or changing roms to a hellraised rom from a i-9100 one.
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jlalisan82 said:
That's why i'm asking if there's a way to trick the network. I mean like changing the baseband or changing roms to a hellraised rom from a i-9100 one.
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LOL.
dude, you are trying to figure out a way to trick the network into seeing something THE PHONE DOESNT HAVE, which is HARDWARE to support the frequencies...
so lets throw some logic in this shall we?
EVEN if you could trick the network into thinking you had the hardware, your HARDWARE wouldnt be able to utilize the network speeds......so what would the purpose be?
jlalisan82 said:
That's why i'm asking if there's a way to trick the network. I mean like changing the baseband or changing roms to a hellraised rom from a i-9100 one.
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That's like putting on a costume that gives you four arms. The extra arms might appear but they don't do anything
jlalisan82 said:
Mine is the AT&T one. Yeah, simple mobile said if it's not supported then it will only work with EDGE. I wish there's another way of 'tricking' the network that you have the band that they support.
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What? Simple Mobile is a T Mobile virtual network operator reseller. They are in no way affiliated with AT&T or do they support AT&T frequencies. No wonder you're trying to "trick" the network into thinking its a different phone.
Please close this stupid-ass thread before it infects other members.
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Please close this stupid-ass thread before it infects other members.
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I'm just asking a question if it's possible to get 3G speeds. I'm new to the forums and still learning the aspects of my phone and the network. Too harsh..but thanks anyways.
It wasn't just a question, it was a seriously stupid question. Like asking if there's a pair of glasses you can wear that will make a Prius look like a Corvette. Sorry, but it just isn't possible. You can't spoof the network into thinking your phone has hardware it doesn't. Are you getting that yet?
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Please close this stupid-ass thread before it infects other members.
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Hmm, I thought I did. I guess it didnt fully engage. Oh well, its closed now.

[Q] Flashing radio

Hi guys,
I'm new to all this so bear with me...
Is it possible to flash the radio on the dna to make the LTE capability work for the Rogers network?
I bought one a while ago, and I ended up selling it because LTE didn't work, and so some people are saying that it might be possible, is this true? I really love the phone so I hope so...
I'm pretty sure we can't even flash radios without s off
But even if we could, it is a hardware thing, not software. The phones hardware only supports Verizon's LTE bands, no way to change that.
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Bigandrewgold said:
I'm pretty sure we can't even flash radios without s off
But even if we could, it is a hardware thing, not software. The phones hardware only supports Verizon's LTE bands, no way to change that.
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Hey,
As far as i know, verizon and rogers use the same 700 mhz network band, but i believe verizon is using CDMA and rogers SIM, So i guess there is no way to do it?

[Q] Does the Samsung Galaxy Note i717 support tmobile 3g?

I have an unlocked Samsung galaxy note i717 and was wondering does it support T-Mobile 3g because I never get 3g its always edge and sometimes 4g it sucks so if anyone knows or know a way I could get 3g to come on that would be great thanks alott
No one has tried that yet -- you're the first to ask! Now I'm wondering too.
My guess is you'd have to flash a t-mobile compatible radio. Maybe get the radio from the t-mobile Blaze 4G galaxy phone, because its the same modem chip as the note, is my guess. You'd probably have to input the APN settings, most likely they aren't included in our Rom.
Good luck and let us know if that works.
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No one has tried that yet -- you're the first to ask! Now I'm wondering too.
My guess is you'd have to flash a t-mobile compatible radio. Maybe get the radio from the t-mobile Blaze 4G galaxy phone, because its the same modem chip as the note, is my guess. You'd probably have to input the APN settings, most likely they aren't included in our Rom.
Good luck and let us know if that works.
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Yeah it has me wondering because I do have the correct apn settings in and I only either have edge or 4g I never have 3g or an h+ so I don't know
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Yes, that's a good start. But my guess Is you have to install/flash a t-mobile compatible modem because the two networks use different bands for data.
OK thanks I'll try that do you suggest any modems I should try?
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Icsblaze. Modem
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Start with the Blaze 4G galaxy phone modem over in the development section. Its a zip file so you need to have a custom recovery (CWR or TWRP). Don't forget the APN settings after you flash.
I think I tried that one before and I didn't get any service at all but I'll give it another try
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That modem is from a tmobile 4G phone. If its going to work, that's your best shot.
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That modem is from a tmobile 4G phone. If its going to work, that's your best shot.
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Ok I will give it a shot and let you know how it goes
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That modem is from a tmobile 4G phone. If its going to work, that's your best shot.
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i tried the blaze rom and it still didnt work this sucks i dont think im ever going to find a good modem
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i tried the blaze rom and it still didnt work this sucks i dont think im ever going to find a good modem
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I hope you mean the Blaze modem.bin zip?
If you did, here's the next step:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41038110
The steps are in a post down a few.
yeah thats what i ment i used the blaze ics it gave me no bars and said insert my sim card
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I hope you mean the Blaze modem.bin zip?
If you did, here's the next step:
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Hey I'm confused. Are you trying to get your Note to work on Tmobile? Why are you trying to get 3G instead of the 4G and LTE?
I'm mot trying to just get 3g but my location it switches from edge straight to 3g my phone won't pick up 3g no matter what I do I'm just tryna get that figured out
Christogq said:
Hey I'm confused. Are you trying to get your Note to work on Tmobile? Why are you trying to get 3G instead of the 4G and LTE?
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Ok, you already get data on tmobile network but you don't like the inconsistent speed.
You can try different modems. But in the end, you may just be in a poorly covered region and will have to live with it.

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