TB or Droid x? - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

My contract ends on the 2nd and I've been comitted to getting the Droid X. I wasn't aware the Thunderbolt was coming out this month. I'm on a tight budget...should I roll with the X or wait for the bolt? Also...do u have to get a 4g data plan or could you just get a 3g plan on the bolt? I am not stoked on the limited dev options with the X so I'm worried.
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Get the Thunderbolt. Trust me, it will be worth the 2-3 weeks extra wait time. Better hardware, should be good build quality since it's made mostly of aluminum, and what's not to like about faster speeds? As of now there is no information on the pricing options for 4G smartphones.
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That's the thing I don't want to wait and then get the shaft by having to get a 4G plan. I don't need or want it. I need to sell my Eris as well to be able to afford the bolt.
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I would definitely get the Thunderbolt. I also was looking for a Droid X. My friend got an EVO and I fell in love with the 4.3" screen. Then I started reading about the locked bootloader and very limited dev options for the DX. The Thunderbolt is just going to be an all around better phone, especially if you want custom roms and kernels. I wouldn't imagine the 4G plan adding more than $10 maybe $15 to your bill.

Again, I agree with Omen. If you're looking for a decent phone with many dev capabilities, this phone isn't for you. This phone is better than that; it's top notch. Get a droid incredible instead. It just dropped to $100 with 2 year contract.
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Vzw store in Walmart just said the bolt is coming on the 10th to their store for 189.99 and no additional billing for 4G whether I believe all that or not Idk but ill wait until then for sure to see if that's legit.
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atpjoe said:
Vzw store in Walmart just said the bolt is coming on the 10th to their store for 189.99 and no additional billing for 4G whether I believe all that or not Idk but ill wait until then for sure to see if that's legit.
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No information has been sent out to third party sellers about 4G data costs. I honestly don't think it's coming out February 10, because that's when the iphone for Verizon is out......

Yeah like I said I'm skeptical. Walmarts staffed by mostly morons so I'm just hoping for a miracle.
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Yeah like I said I'm skeptical. Walmarts staffed by mostly morons so I'm just hoping for a miracle.
Agreed.
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I have the X i love the Phone but it does kinda stink that about getting custom Roms, like FULL ones with the new kernals and everything. From what i have been reading on line the 4g plan is going to be 29.99 just like 3g but you know verizon can change that any time lol The thunderbolt looks amazing is it going to have a impossible boot loader like the Motorola products have?

Talked to a VZW rep yesterday about our company phones and I wanted to also move to a new phone for myself. I asked about the TB and said I didn't want to pay extra because I don't live in an 4g area. I was told that there is no extra charge for 4g.
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snowboarderxd1 said:
I have the X i love the Phone but it does kinda stink that about getting custom Roms, like FULL ones with the new kernals and everything. From what i have been reading on line the 4g plan is going to be 29.99 just like 3g but you know verizon can change that any time lol The thunderbolt looks amazing is it going to have a impossible boot loader like the Motorola products have?
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It is highly unlikely that it will have a locked bootloader. It would be a first for HTC to do so as far as I know.
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Talked to a VZW rep yesterday about our company phones and I wanted to also move to a new phone for myself. I asked about the TB and said I didn't want to pay extra because I don't live in an 4g area. I was told that there is no extra charge for 4g.
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I've heard this several times from many people, lets hope it is true...I cannot afford a bigger bill.

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It is highly unlikely that it will have a locked bootloader. It would be a first for HTC to do so as far as I know.
I've heard this several times from many people, lets hope it is true...I cannot afford a bigger bill.
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A second considering the G2 and all that mess...

I'd go with the Thunderbolt. HTC uses better camera parts than Motorola, doesn't lock their bootloaders, 4G will be nice and shouldn't cost extra. I've had the Droid X since release and it's not been that amazing. I'm suffering (as are many others) severe reboot issues due to Moto's buggy .340 kernel and since we can't change our kernel... we have to continue to deal with this maddening problem.
I'm no longer a Motorola fan. Not to mention that HTC is usually a bit faster than Motorola on getting out updates for new software... and you'll get a front-facing camera with video chat!
I don't count Samsung phones... broken GPS and horrible software updates, plus a lack of Cyanogenmod... LG phones suck, and Motorola phones are too locked down. So, I see HTC as the only real player in the game today for quality, customizable Android phones. Plus, I like their aspect ratio for their 4.3" screens... not the widescreen size Motorola uses, which is too tall and not wide enough for me.
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I'm running the. 340 update and have not had one random reboot since ice update. With liberty applied and a couple of other tweaks its a great phone (DX) but it had very limited dev support because there isn't really **** you can ultimately do with a locked bootloader, it doesn't have near the support of my fascinate, and no where the support of my DInc, but with that said, at the end of the day, I use my Droid x for one reason. Battery life. I suspect the battery life on the thunderbolt wont be as good as the x, but it had great specs a great proccessor and more RAM, IT WILL BE A AWESOME PHONE. IM SO DRUNK I DONT KNOW WHAT IM SAYING! !
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Is this a serious question? haha.

It was ...I'm impatient as hell that why I put it down to these two phones. Patience pays off though in the phone world I've come to realize.
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Photon 4g or nexus s 4g

alright guys some of you may know i have a nexus s 4g, and i love it.. but my team already has people on it, so i offered to take on photon 4g. now that puts me in a spot, as i dont have one
so anyone unhappy with their purchase interested in trading?
Even trade? Not gonna happen, Sorry. That's like trying to trade your Sterling silver chain for a white gold chain.
ha samsung>motorola
tx_dbs_tx said:
Even trade? Not gonna happen, Sorry. That's like trying to trade your Sterling silver chain for a white gold chain.
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the 30 day window is coming soon to an end, i imagine after that there will be lots of people trying to sell them on craigslist etc, i heard teh return rate on the photon so far has been a high one
and it looks kinda goofy
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Had the Nexus S 4G prior to using the Photon. I would never in a million years go back.
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I owned the nexus 4g for about 3 months and decided to upgrade one of my lines on the family plan (Family hand me down program hehehe)
I agree with newalkwer, I would not go back. I know you read about the screendoor effect, but let me tell you, yes, you will see it, BUT only if you really look for it. Otherwise, its a great phone so far and I will not look into returning it anytime soon. Sound quality is great and unlike the nexus 4g, the speaker volume on the Photon is LOUD! Let's me sneak in a couple movies in the data center with the servers humming away hehehehe.
Also, when i first looked at the nexus screen, I was wow, the display and the colors were great. But now that i think about it, It does look over saturated.
Well, to each his own, but these are my opinions on what i have seen so far.
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Anyway to be on topic...sorry shabby ill have to pass
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hes talking to the guy talking smack about the photon ;P
but thanks for coming in for teh rescue
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alright guys some of you may know i have a nexus s 4g, and i love it.. but my team already has people on it, so i offered to take on photon 4g. now that puts me in a spot, as i dont have one
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Nooooooo..
Shabby I have the ns4g also, I will be taking the leap to the photon tommorow, though I'm keepin the nexus, just love it to much.
And of course a member of Acs would be great! Do it
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hes talking to the guy talking smack about the photon ;P
but thanks for coming in for teh rescue
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Yeah realized that about 20 seconds after the post so deleted the comment lol. But anytime dont mention it lol
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shabbypenguin said:
the 30 day window is coming soon to an end, i imagine after that there will be lots of people trying to sell them on craigslist etc, i heard teh return rate on the photon so far has been a high one
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You heard? Show some proof. I highly doubt that will be the case. This phone is off the hook and being unlocked and rooted now its only a matter of time before we get some sick kernels and ROMs. This phone rocks and I knew it would awhile back, no one believed me. Owell
If they are such a high sell rate why don't you buy one of CL then??
Good Luck
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My roommate works at a corporate sprint store and he just mentioned tonight that they have sold about 30 photons and have had only 1 return, and that was just because the person didnt have coverage in their area and decided to go with att.. though the customer liked the photon so much my roomy told him of the atrix (with the updates the atrix performance wise is pretty close now besides the obvious upgrades of mopho). So thats b.s. about the high return rate. If anything the nexus s 4G is higher because of the obvious network issues stock (though update should have fixed this). Either way look on ebay, if u think u can get a even trade then why not sell on ebay and just use paypal to buy a photon on ebay as well...
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Shabby is this even a serious question?!!!! Comming from a fellow epic and nexus 4g owner. Pack your things and head over here!!!!! Bring that creative sob mystery with you aswell!!! Convince konane aswell lmao....
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Custodian said:
Shabby is this even a serious question?!!!! Comming from a fellow epic and nexus 4g owner. Pack your things and head over here!!!!! Bring that creative sob mystery with you aswell!!! Convince konane aswell lmao....
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This lol
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shabbypenguin said:
alright guys some of you may know i have a nexus s 4g, and i love it.. but my team already has people on it, so i offered to take on photon 4g. now that puts me in a spot, as i dont have one
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We need you on our team Shabby..but seriously toss in like $50 extra and swap some poor sap on craigslist for a Photon. I had an NS4G and the Photon is leaps and bounds better. Here's how i upgraded....Evo 4g + $50= Nexus. Complained about radio on nexus = free 2 yr upgrade. Sold nexus for $220. Bought Photon for $219.48 with tax ftw.
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My Daughter has the Nexus S and I just got the Photon yesterday and there is NO WAY I would take her Nexus S. WHile the Nexus S is a very nice phone, to me it's not as good as the Photon ( I am coming from the OG EVO) which the Photon puts to shame. The Photon is being compared to the SGS2. It's Crazy Fast and has ALOT of things that it did right. Downloaded Netflix and watched The Thing and it looked Amazing. I don't know why I hear people *****ing about the screen, it looks Incredible to me. Photon>>Nexux S. Plus with Google buying Motorola Mobility, I can only see this as a Win/Win
Guys, I'm in a bind!!! I can't decide between the Photon or the HTC Sensation... I know this is the Photon Forums and thus the bias is going to be towards the Photon, but can someone make a good argument as to why I should go with the Photon instead of the Sensation?
I will be heading out to the store to buy ONE OF THEM but I just need that extra push towards one of them!
Thanks in advanced.
PS. Also take into account the carrier. In other words, taking into account the phone AND carrier, which one is the best overall guy?
Photon hands down sprint has better coverage in buildings but T-Mobile data is faster but u get capped on T-Mobile, Sprint is unlimited. Photon processor is better then sensation and da 3d which is actually clocked at 1.2ghz, battery lasts longer on the photon, plus moto down wit google i kno dat locked bootloader nonsense is ova wit, photon has better voice quality and sound. Should i keep goin?
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Photon hands down sprint has better coverage in buildings but T-Mobile data is faster but u get capped on T-Mobile, Sprint is unlimited. Photon processor is better then sensation and da 3d which is actually clocked at 1.2ghz, battery lasts longer on the photon, plus moto down wit google i kno dat locked bootloader nonsense is ova wit, photon has better voice quality and sound. Should i keep goin?
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Aight dog, im sold wit wat u said. Ill be goin wit dat Photon!
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Possible trade for Droix x2

I might trade my Thunderbolt for a Droidx2 tomorrow.. any thoughts? I had the first X and I loved it. I traded it for an incredible for the roms.
Can anyone confirm or deny the following:
x2's camera > TB
x2's video/gaming > TB
4g is a plus but not a dealbreaker for me.
my opinion: i like motoblur over sense (if i don't modify, which is a reason i am considering trading)
any input would be great. i know it is late, especially on the east coast but i am hoping for some quick responses. thanks
Do it"!
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Up to you man. The TB is definitely more desirable due to custom ROMs. However, this phone is future proof, and based on the recent acquisition, we might be in good shape. P3's preroot is money debloated...
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mistawolfe said:
Up to you man. The TB is definitely more desirable due to custom ROMs. However, this phone is future proof, and based on the recent acquisition, we might be in good shape. P3's preroot is money debloated...
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it is, arguably, a hassle due to the 4g. sometimes you will lose 4g and need to flash a new radio/kernel/rom and no one else will experience the same issue.
has an OTA been released with gingerbread yet?
Yes but it's recommended to use p3s prerooted gingerbread, and other than the 4g the X2 stomps the Thunderbolt
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yep, i am going to do it.
just put my TB back to stock and it runs so much better haha. the downside of that is the fact i hate sense and it is a total battery hog.
is netflix available for the x2 stock? or does the x2 need to be rooted with a modded netflix app?
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yep, i am going to do it.
just put my TB back to stock and it runs so much better haha. the downside of that is the fact i hate sense and it is a total battery hog.
is netflix available for the x2 stock? or does the x2 need to be rooted with a modded netflix app?
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Available
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I would very much recommend using the eclipse rom as well... Very simple process and very much improved over stock
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After playing around with a Thunderbolt and an X2 i defaulted to the X2, and I must say with all the tweaking I've done it is hands down the best phone I've ever had.
Never owning a TB but having owned the X and now an X2 I like the X2 for its speed but the memory is a little lacking every now and then a game will tell me the memory is low and that it may close unexpectedly. I have always liked the Moto quality for reception and other components and having toyed with a few other HTC phones, locked bootloader and all Moto still gets my bet too.
I came from a Thunderbolt. The lack of roms on the x2 makes me sad considering the large dev support for the tbolt. Honestly, the proformance of a non overclocked cm7 bolt was about the same as the x2 in the real world.
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converge12 said:
I might trade my Thunderbolt for a Droidx2 tomorrow.. any thoughts? I had the first X and I loved it. I traded it for an incredible for the roms.
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Just curious.... How is it that you are able to "trade" phones at will? Dont you have a service contact with time restrictions?
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Robin M said:
Just curious.... How is it that you are able to "trade" phones at will? Dont you have a service contact with time restrictions?
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Don't know about the tbolt, but there were so many missed call issues on the fascinate that Samsung sponsored a swap thru vzw for fascinate owners. We got to choose between the x2, the dinc2 or the charge.
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Just curious.... How is it that you are able to "trade" phones at will? Dont you have a service contact with time restrictions?
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I have switched many phones on my Verizon contract and never charged . Why would they charge you , you are still paying for their service .
If flashing custom roms and 4g is important to you, then go for it. The X2 should be getting more dev support soon..hopefully..
Oh and I'm pretty sure the TB's camera is better than the X2's. Consumer Report rated it as the #2 or #4, I can't remember, best cell phone camera. The X was last, and it has the same camera as the X2.
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I have switched many phones on my Verizon contract and never charged . Why would they charge you , you are still paying for their service .
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The conventional wisdom is that Verizon allows you to "upgrade" (at the upgrade price) only once every 24 months. While you can trade "upgrades" between various phones on your service contract, you must pay the full retail price of the phone to change phones before being eligible to upgrade.
When I got the X2, I asked if I could trade it for a Samsung Galaxy S2, if that were to be released in the next few months. They said that after 14 days I was stuck with the phone until upgrade time. They said they never resell a used phone, even if returned within the original 14 days. They told me they send them back to Verizon who "refurbishes" them and then they may resell them at a discount online.
So I'm still wondering how you are able to work out these trade deals? Anyone else ever hear of this, other than the Samsung sponsored offer?
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The conventional wisdom is that Verizon allows you to "upgrade" (at the upgrade price) only once every 24 months. While you can trade "upgrades" between various phones on your service contract, you must pay the full retail price of the phone to change phones before being eligible to upgrade.
When I got the X2, I asked if I could trade it for a Samsung Galaxy S2, if that were to be released in the next few months. They said that after 14 days I was stuck with the phone until upgrade time. They said they never resell a used phone, even if returned within the original 14 days. They told me they send them back to Verizon who "refurbishes" them and then they may resell them at a discount online.
So I'm still wondering how you are able to work out these trade deals? Anyone else ever hear of this, other than the Samsung sponsored offer?
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Your thinking wayyyyy toooo much ....
lol, lets say you find a phone on craigslist and you want it . First you check esn to ensure it can be activated on another account , then if you like it , then simply get it and swap your phones on your Verizon account .. Understand now ? It really is , just that simple .
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Your thinking wayyyyy toooo much ....
lol, lets say you find a phone on craigslist and you want it . First you check esn to ensure it can be activated on another account , then if you like it , then simply get it and swap your phones on your Verizon account .. Understand now ? It really is , just that simple .
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Oh. Well yeah, you can do that.
Before trading out for a droid x2 you may want to look into all the audio problems people have reported. I personally have experienced very bad audio skipping while using my x2 and no hacks tips tricks super charges or roms have resolved the problem. I keep my fingers crossed for a solution but if I were you and liked listening to Pandora Slacker or any other audio on my phone I would stay away from the x2 for now
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Worried about my htc amaze 4g

I'm hearing everywhere that the phone will be obsolete in a couple of months. I'm scared I might get out dated when I just bought this phone like 1 months ago. Should I get rid of it and get a sgs2 while I still can or what should I do?
Thank you for reading this.
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jsalazarcervantes said:
I'm hearing everywhere that the phone will be obsolete in a couple of months. I'm scared I might get out dated when I just bought this phone like 1 months ago. Should I get rid of it and get a sgs2 while I still can or what should I do?
Thank you for reading this.
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Even if HTC were to discontinue the phone today it's still a 1.5ghz dual core 4G phone. The SGS2 is pretty much identical in specs. If the phones are so similar and the Amaze is no longer in production but the SGS2 is, then is the Amze "obsolete?" Your definition of obsolete must be different than mine.
+1. ^^^
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im sorry, i used a poor choice of words. i was in a hurry when i wrote this. By obsolete i meant that htc will not be supporting us and will stop sellin the phone.
With the second generation dual core and first generation quad cores on the horizon. Not to mention the big hardware specification push, it is/will be soon obsolete. Does that make it irrelevant, no.. Hell computers are obsolete before you buy them for the most part. Just live with and enjoy your device...
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With the second generation dual core and first generation quad cores on the horizon. Not to mention the big hardware specification push, it is/will be soon obsolete. Does that make it irrelevant, no.. Hell computers are obsolete before you buy them for the most part. Just live with and enjoy your device...
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I agree. You have a two year contract when you purchase a phone with a discount. Who here thinks that T-Mobile shouldn't start offering new phones before your two year contract expires? Seriously! The phone has been out for what... three, four months now? I would say that's pretty good actually. Don't worry about the phone itself though. You still have a 1 year warranty which will still be honored should you require service. It's still a powerhouse of a phone and we're expecting an update here very soon. So... what's the problem? You guys are acting like it's the damn G1.
You know to be honest I was expecting a better phone to come out about a month after ours did. I'm surprised that it didn't. But I'm saying this to people that are suprised that in this day and technological age your phone is old and outdated before you can manage to buy accessories for it. Just look at it this way... iphone fans are constantly being screwed by Apple and their yearly releases! You wait in line overnight to buy the new iphone 4GS or whatever and nine months later Apple teases you with the new iphone 4GS2 for a super low price of $600 because you're still on contract. Else they can wait for another year for the release of the iphone 5 or whatever. It's a sales gimmick and that's all there is to it. Yet you guys are surpised to see this with HTC? Naive I think.
Only thing you need to worry about is awful Dev support.
Im sorry I like XB and the others but this phone has just about zero Rom selection compared to SGS2 and other phones. Nothing even close to a workable ICS build.
The phone itself is fantastic mostly due to the camera , HW isnt what you should be worried about.
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Only thing you need to worry about is awful Dev support.
Im sorry I like XB and the others but this phone has just about zero Rom selection compared to SGS2 and other phones. Nothing even close to a workable ICS build.
The phone itself is fantastic mostly due to the camera , HW isnt what you should be worried about.
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Samsung devices don't have to be worried about a locked bootloader either.
xManMythLegend said:
Only thing you need to worry about is awful Dev support.
Im sorry I like XB and the others but this phone has just about zero Rom selection compared to SGS2 and other phones. Nothing even close to a workable ICS build.
The phone itself is fantastic mostly due to the camera , HW isnt what you should be worried about.
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i dont see any progress on the sgs2 tmo version im further then them
Don't worry be happy. Is just a phone!
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Felinos11 said:
Don't worry be happy. Is just a phone!
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Just a phone?? Watcha you mouth!
And.....you managed to get that damn song stuck in my head.
Yes its not the end of the world its just HTC Saying ok we aren't making the phone anymore tmobile n HTC aren't going to blow u off if u have a issue with it.
They are not going to make the phone anymore because of what's on the horizon. I say in about a month or two we will see a new HTC tmobile phone.
with ICS "wink"
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jsalazarcervantes said:
I'm hearing everywhere that the phone will be obsolete in a couple of months. I'm scared I might get out dated when I just bought this phone like 1 months ago. Should I get rid of it and get a sgs2 while I still can or what should I do?
Thank you for reading this.
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samsung has horrible support for their phones, except for ones running vanilla android, they are incredibly slow when it comes to pushing out os updates, im almost certain htc will give us a stable ics before samsung does with the sgs2
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Don't worry be happy. Is just a phone!
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It might be "just a phone" but I paid a large chunk of cash for my phone and I don't like getting screwed over by Google.......not to mention Apple's bait & switch marketing.
Smartphones "smart" once you find out your phone will be semi-obsolete as is the case here with Google trying to tell software & hardware developers what to do.
stefnuts
All of this is true but don't you all feel that the htc amaze is a bad phone? You can't have a case because you lose WiFi signal, you have to put electrical tape on the back of the phone to prevent the flash from messing up your pictures at night, the haptic key light bleeds in the screen, the faceplate on the back creaks really loud when putting pressure. I did not pay over 600 for a phone to have so many problems.
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T-mo news did post an article stating that the amaze 4g is reaching "end-of-life" and will he discontinued soon. This may lower our chance of getting more dev support, but let's be thankful for who we do have which is some great developers like xboarder, faux, and now nrg... Just have patience, soom good stuff is going to be coming to us in the near future, we just need to wait. No one has a perfectly running ICS with no bugs we arent far behind guys we will have what we want soon
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I do not see why it is such a big deal they won't be producing htc amaze anymore(if that is true). anyway even the htc ville we are expecting to come out in march or the samsung bliss, they have nothing special, same dual core cpu, same speed + the camera that the amaze has is one of the best in the market. So I find all this "worried about my amaze" a little too exaggerated. and yes it is just a phone, if you are concerned just go sell it back and buy a new one when it comes out. hope your worries about the htc amaze do not keep you from living a normal life...extra stress is never good
I love my Amaze. I knew about the "flaws" before I bought it. To my amazement, it's better than I thought and read about. I fortunately do not have the creaking back cover(there's a fix), Wi-Fi range is awesome even with a case, GPS locks in seconds even inside the house, battery life last all day, awesome ROMs available (thank you devs, you know who you are, lol) the list goes on. My 0.02
In my room I have 1 - 2 bars of WiFi
With the case off I get full 4, pretty annoying
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In my room I have 1 - 2 bars of WiFi
With the case off I get full 4, pretty annoying
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A few questions about sprint

So some of you might know me... Some may not but, I've been developing roms for Verizon's HTC phones for year's, and I think I might want to try a different carrier for awhile and sprint is at the top of my list... Don't get me wrong I love the user base from the Verizon peeps but it just keeps getting smaller and smaller... The last 2 devices I've had Incredible 2 and Rezound just seemed like they died before they got going by that I mean no support other than me and a couple other devs...
So what I'm asking is what are your thoughts about sprints service... And do you think the LTE should be my next device? I've played around with a lot of the new HTC phones and the LTE seems to be better than the other's, so it will most likely be my next phone, but I want to hear what you all think?
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newtoroot said:
So some of you might know me... Some may not but, I've been developing roms for Verizon's HTC phones for year's, and I think I might want to try a different carrier for awhile and sprint is at the top of my list... Don't get me wrong I love the user base from the Verizon peeps but it just keeps getting smaller and smaller... The last 2 devices I've had Incredible 2 and Rezound just seemed like they died before they got going by that I mean no support other than me and a couple other devs...
So what I'm asking is what are your thoughts about sprints service... And do you think the LTE should be my next device? I've played around with a lot of the new HTC phones and the LTE seems to be better than the other's, so it will most likely be my next phone, but I want to hear what you all think?
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I love my LTE and have had Sprint service for nearly 15 years. No complaints here...Sure, the 3G speed isn't that great, but that should change with Network Vision project. I live in Baltimore so I get pretty decent speeds right now, but there are plenty of others that are not.
Customer Service: never had an issue with them
Dropped Calls/Missed Calls: not nearly as many as with AT&T and some others that my friends use. Seems pretty stable.
Data: 3G isn't great, but, it works and is unlimited.
Bills: Never had an issue with Billing
Hope that helps somewhat.
EDIT: I ran your NEWTS RC3 on the EVO 3D and loved it. Couldn't change ROMS after flashing yours because nothing came close...
You should definitely come over to the EVO 4G LTE forums and hook us up. LOL...
Do it newt. Data speeds are pretty decent in major cities, price is right and this phone is a beast. Two best parts: screen and audio quality. I came from the 3d and am glad I left the drama and subparness of that phone behind. Ran your sense 4.0 port at the end of my time with the 3d and loved it. Lets just hope sprint doesn't forget about this device like the 3d. Oh and there's no drama here like the 3d. Come join the party newt, we need more devs like you.
The phone is a beast, sprint is what it is
Would love to see u on this device
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newtoroot said:
So some of you might know me... Some may not but, I've been developing roms for Verizon's HTC phones for year's, and I think I might want to try a different carrier for awhile and sprint is at the top of my list... Don't get me wrong I love the user base from the Verizon peeps but it just keeps getting smaller and smaller... The last 2 devices I've had Incredible 2 and Rezound just seemed like they died before they got going by that I mean no support other than me and a couple other devs...
So what I'm asking is what are your thoughts about sprints service... And do you think the LTE should be my next device? I've played around with a lot of the new HTC phones and the LTE seems to be better than the other's, so it will most likely be my next phone, but I want to hear what you all think?
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I've been with Sprint for 11yrs, it's been a rocky ride at times but they've improved substantially over the last several. I love my LTE but a friend of mine just got the GS3 and I was playing around with it and it's a really nice phone. That being said, the selfish part in me wants as many quality developers as possible committed to the LTE to try and bring development here to the level it was with the OG EVO. Since you're a developer and the phone will likely stay bone stock just long enough for you to root it, it really comes down to specs and personal preference as to design and build quality. LTE is a little lighter and seems a little thinner, GS3 seems a little more soldly built (even with it being all plastic). There's an issue of the LTE bending just above the kickstand due to the aluminum being so thin and weak in that area. IMO the LTE has a slightly better screen but the GS3 screen is still beautiful. GS3 has far more storage available to it and a removable battery. I've actually been thinking of switching to the GS3 just because all I really want is a fully working, solid, stable AOSP build and I have a feeling the GS3 is going to get there first.
ausch30 said:
I've been with Sprint for 11yrs, it's been a rocky ride at times but they've improved substantially over the last several. I love my LTE but a friend of mine just got the GS3 and I was playing around with it and it's a really nice phone. That being said, the selfish part in me wants as many quality developers as possible committed to the LTE to try and bring development here to the level it was with the OG EVO. Since you're a developer and the phone will likely stay bone stock just long enough for you to root it, it really comes down to specs and personal preference as to design and build quality. LTE is a little lighter and seems a little thinner, GS3 seems a little more soldly built (even with it being all plastic). There's an issue of the LTE bending just above the kickstand due to the aluminum being so thin and weak in that area. IMO the LTE has a slightly better screen but the GS3 screen is still beautiful. GS3 has far more storage available to it and a removable battery. I've actually been thinking of switching to the GS3 just because all I really want is a fully working, solid, stable AOSP build and I have a feeling the GS3 is going to get there first.
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I only buy HTC phones, but thanks for the info
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newtoroot said:
I only buy HTC phones, but thanks for the info
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I feel the same, my last 4 were Touch Diamond, OG EVO, 3D, and LTE. Honestly, I'd rather have you and as many other developers here as possible to help make this thing greater than it already is.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28918470
^^^^^^^^ this
If your willing to take the sacrifice from insanely fast data to Sprints mediocre data until LTE really starts going, I think you'll see this as a nice upgrade from HTC's previous devices. The build quality is something I didn't expect, because its really that nice. The one thing that I still have yet to get over on this phone, is this beautiful screen.
If you decide to come to the EVO-side I'm sure you won't be disappointed.
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newtoroot said:
I only buy HTC phones, but thanks for the info
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Dude I've heard of you, you're a HTC deving legend! I would love to run of your Roms!
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newtoroot said:
So some of you might know me... Some may not but, I've been developing roms for Verizon's HTC phones for year's, and I think I might want to try a different carrier for awhile and sprint is at the top of my list... Don't get me wrong I love the user base from the Verizon peeps but it just keeps getting smaller and smaller... The last 2 devices I've had Incredible 2 and Rezound just seemed like they died before they got going by that I mean no support other than me and a couple other devs...
So what I'm asking is what are your thoughts about sprints service... And do you think the LTE should be my next device? I've played around with a lot of the new HTC phones and the LTE seems to be better than the other's, so it will most likely be my next phone, but I want to hear what you all think?
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we would love to have newt
Do it newt I.just flashed an LTE to boost mobile. Help me out and patch a phone.apk so I can get native voicemail notifications!
newtoroot said:
So some of you might know me... Some may not but, I've been developing roms for Verizon's HTC phones for year's, and I think I might want to try a different carrier for awhile and sprint is at the top of my list... Don't get me wrong I love the user base from the Verizon peeps but it just keeps getting smaller and smaller... The last 2 devices I've had Incredible 2 and Rezound just seemed like they died before they got going by that I mean no support other than me and a couple other devs...
So what I'm asking is what are your thoughts about sprints service... And do you think the LTE should be my next device? I've played around with a lot of the new HTC phones and the LTE seems to be better than the other's, so it will most likely be my next phone, but I want to hear what you all think?
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The EVO LTE is awesome compared to any other phone out there, period. Only draw back on the phone is not being able to take out the battery. Everything else on the EVO destroys the competition. (Well not destroy, just get the phone you won't be disappointed.) Sprints service is better than they get credit for I think. Though they need to work faster on 4G so we can stop getting charged for something we cannot use and so they can stop BSing that it is for data coverages. 3G speed is what you would expect really. Unlimited everything is a big plus. And their customer service is sub par but I think most carriers are.
From what I read here, your the man. Make it happen chief!
Would be good to have you here newt
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Been wit Sprint since 2000 and they have always stood by me, upgraded me, discounted me, fought with me, all and all I'm happy no drop calls, no surprises great coverage...do it and get developing for us lte people lol
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I'm going to the store today to see about getting a plan... I'll have to get a phone for my wife and I not sure what the price will be, but we will see what I can afford... May have to wait alil longer depending on price
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newtoroot said:
I only buy HTC phones, but thanks for the info
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Word... I WILL NOT buy a phone from another manufacturer. I feel that HTC's build quality is unmatched and honestly I love Sense with Nova instead of Rosie (i know that isn't a popular opinion).
Sprint has been good to me here in Charleston, Wv. I have the OG Evo, the Evo 3D, the HTC Flyer tablet and now the Evo 4G LTE... wouldn't trade this phone for anything currently on the market.
In this area on 3G I seem to average between 1500 and 1700 mbps and that is plenty for me as I am usually on Wifi... I honestly don't care much if 4G even comes to this area and of the handful of dropped calls I have ever had, I was talking to someone on AT&T so I tend to believe that it was on their end.
Sprint service is decent i have had worse t-mobile "cough" phones seen alot nicer on sprint if your an htc fan..excited to see you considering the lte
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I'm going to the store today to see about getting a plan... I'll have to get a phone for my wife and I not sure what the price will be, but we will see what I can afford... May have to wait alil longer depending on price
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Hope all goes well. We'll welcome you to the family with open arms newt!
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HTC Droid DNA - will you get it?

Tech specs
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Probably on Launch Day.
Nope. The screen will KILL battery life like butter.
Via my Google Galaxy S3 running sweet sweet Jelly Bean
Depends on the off contract price... expecting it to be around 7-8 hundred so probably not.
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Is this thread really necessary?
GrayTheWolf said:
Is this thread really necessary?
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I agree we already have the same phone in 2 other threads. Although I sound a bit like a hippocrit since I made a thread on the Japanese version when they had the dlx thread out.
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Nope. The rezound is my last HTC device. They make decent quality stuff, but they refuse to support it. (see tablets) After buying two tabs and getting the shaft, I have made a vow to not buy another HTC product. Not to mention the hoops they make us jump through just to root and rom our phones. They might aswell be dead to me.
/rant off
Delete it then fine by me. I only saw the butterfly thread and was just trying to provide some information.
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1454 said:
Nope. The rezound is my last HTC device. They make decent quality stuff, but they refuse to support it. (see tablets) After buying two tabs and getting the shaft, I have made a vow to not buy another HTC product. Not to mention the hoops they make us jump through just to root and rom our phones. They might aswell be dead to me.
/rant off
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Ok go get a samsung or moto and have fun with all the locked bootloaders
cslingerland said:
Ok go get a samsung or moto and have fun with all the locked bootloaders
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Samsungs is easily bypassable. Which is where I plan on going. And it's not like "htc's unlockable" BL does all that much good. If it did we wouldn't need to s-off.
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Samsungs is easily bypassable. Which is where I plan on going. And it's not like "htc's unlockable" BL does all that much good. If it did we wouldn't need to s-off.
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true about samsung. moto i think has garbage hardware... can i ask what trouble you had with the htc tablets? sounds like a pretty bad experience for you to leave the company
cslingerland said:
true about samsung. moto i think has garbage hardware... can i ask what trouble you had with the htc tablets? sounds like a pretty bad experience for you to leave the company
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Well, it started with the many replacements of the tbolt, then HTC's hard stance against updating their tablets kinda pushed me over the edge, then they updated the flyer/view to broken software and they wont even fix it. Now the Rezound is having touchscreen issues. So I'm just tired of dealing with the problems and the lack of OEM support after purchase. I appreciate the Dev community for the zound, but sammy seems to be stronger in that dept. So I think I am going to give them a shot. I won't touch Moto with a ten foot pole. It may be a bad move, but I'm willing to take that risk after all the issues I have had recently with HTC. So for me, from here on out, it's going to be Nexus, or Samsung.
Samsung is worse.
I love my Rez and I still think of it as probably one of the, if not the most undervalued android phone released to date, but I don't see myself going for yet another carrier exclusive device after this. Of course, reviews might be so great for the DNA that I could change my mind but so far I am not that impressed.
Having said that however, the lack of a LTE capable Nexus 4 kinda limits the options for those looking to upgrade atm and I really cant see myself with a Galaxy S device. Wish Sony would be given a chance at penetrating the US market, they seem to strike a fair balance between corporate dev support, hardware and software quality.
I'll be getting this. The hardware and build quality will be top notch, it can be unlocked through HTCs dev website and be able to load cm. It was between this and the note but son, I am dissapoint at it having the older gen exynos and 720p screen on a 5.5 inch screen.
no, my next phone will be honor 2 or note 2
battery is important factor to me now
i dont think i will ever came back to htc
even im sense-boy
Nah, samsung isn't worse.
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Its looking like ill most likely be getting it. I'm thinking ill be getting the DNA and one other new gen phone probably a GSM phone since I have two contracts, one with ATT and one with Verizon.
But I will be more careful than usual with this purchase. I'm currently so broke I can't afford the down payment on a grilled cheese sandwich. But this phone is a priority, and I owe it to the BAMF community. So I've been saving my pennies and will be selling some stuff to raise some funds.
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I cam say that I'll be getting one as well, I'm always into the latest HTC has to offer..
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blestsol said:
Nah, samsung isn't worse.
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samsungs radios and signal are 10x worse.
in my house, my gs3 gets about 6kbps download on 3g.
my rezound, when its not pulling 4g in my house (which the nexus and GS3 CAN'T), pulls atleast half a meg to a meg per second. doing anything on the gs3 on 3g is terrible, and ridiculously slow. fb app won't even load. rezound loads it no problem. hell, i even tethered 3 tablets to my rezound last night and while we were all browsing at the same time, ti was STILl faster than my gs3
i don't think i'd buy antoher samsung phone ever again, and i really want the DNA...dunno if i wanna fork out 600 bones for it tohugh

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