I wonder if there are any current X10 users who previously used the X1? How do they compare - advantages/disadvantages?
Thank you!
I have x1 that I have used with original stock and with cooked ones.
The very big jump is from WM to Android; it is a completely new way of using a phone. It is really open, lot of application and lot of free stuff.
WM might be more linked to the professional applications of Windows. Nonetheless android will allow you to get synchronized with you office exchange server mails and contacts with no major issues
Personally I am more than happy to have done the jump.
In terms of hardware you have to get used to a smaller display and a smaller keyboard. I have used also the X10 which has a wider display but I am now happy with the mini pro. It is also a matter of what you need more from your phone.
If you take lots of photograph or you intend to watch video and films is better to go with the X10, not the mini.
If you look at a lesser priced android phone, smaller and with a physical keyboard then the mini pro is your choice
Grazie 1000!
You seem to be very happy.
Still comparing x10 mini pro with x1, would you also say
a) the x10minipro is snappier than the X1?
b) Is it easier to use? (phone is not for me)
c) What about stability?
d) Which has the better display in your opinion?
e) Better keyboard?
f) Camera on X1 or on X10 mini pro
I found the X1 for half the price of the X10mini pro, so cost also enters into the equation.
Thanks again!
Telephone is always a matter of personal preference and feelings.
I was not meant to say that the x10 is better in any field compared to x1.
When you get used to it I do not find any big difference in usage, but this is a matter of taste or habitude.
I found, so far,the x10 more stable than the X1; it is also true that I have not many applications installed but I use it as I did use before the X1.
Display of the X1 is better and this is way I consider the x1 better for video and films. Also going to internet having a bigger display is better.
Camera on x1 has more options.
Price is also a decison factor, but I believe that if you go with X10 mini is because you want to go with Android. And, besides the cooked roms, the difference between WM 6.1 and Android is abysmal.
Grazie 1000. I ended up with the X1, price+screen was deciding factor.
I thought I'd ask you X10 devs/power users this:
Out of the X10 (X10a) and Motorola Milestone, which do you think is the closest to offering fully custom ROMs including custom kernels, cyanogenmod ports etc?
I understand both of these have locked bootloaders which are making this hard.
I'm looking to get a pretty quick Android device with a high-res non-Pentile screen and my choices seem limited only to devices with locked bootloaders or some other flaw... it'd be nice to at least have a bit of future-proofing.
If neither of these devices can be upgraded by the community, is it better to bet on SonyEriccson or Motorola for long term support?
From what i understand the Motorola bootloaders are "perfect" in that they are unhackable (in so much as anything can be un-hackable, incredibly impractical would be more accurate i suppose) whereas the X10 bootloader is hackable and i believe it has actually been hacked at this point, but there are issues with the kernal at the moment.
So the prospects for the x10 are good, its no guarantee but fingers crossed
Thanks for the reply.
It's a pity Motorola went that way with the Milestone (and some other recent phones). So on the one hand Motorola is likely to beat SonyEricsson in bringing out Froyo, but then with the X10 it sounds like the community might be able to step in if these kernel issues can be sorted.
Love the screen res on the X10 and Milestone by the way - I'd go for a galaxy or N1 but their Pentile screens are a step backwards, especially at a time when competition is bringing out its "retina" display. Small text is very readable indeed on the X10 while fuzzier on anything with a Pentile AMOLED.
Here's hoping the X10 gets future updates, one way or another.
I currently have a HTC Magic but I am getting annoyed with the lack of decent stable roms for it so I have been shopping around and for my budget I have a choice of either an X10 mini or the new X8 but wanted to find out which would be better as I understand the X8 is like the X10 mini but with a bigger screen and a lower camera
Dony buy either of the phones as they are dum.
I was a xperia x1 user and my x1 stopped working as it had gone in water.
I bought a x8 and my friend also had saved moey to buy a x10 mini pro.
But let me tell you that its nor worth thr money you are spending and the X1 had 13 buttons on the front bottom the xperia just had 3 buttons on the front bottom.
There isnt any direct call button, you will have to go back from the menu to make a call.
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There isnt any direct call button, you will have to go back from the menu to make a call.
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With a alternate Homelauncher (f.ex. ADW) you can bind the middle key with the dialer if you are already at the homescreen.
...and for the X8 and X10 use the sony-ericsson.com comparison tool and try to look at the phones at a market.
adils3d said:
Dony buy either of the phones as they are dum.
I was a xperia x1 user and my x1 stopped working as it had gone in water.
I bought a x8 and my friend also had saved moey to buy a x10 mini pro.
But let me tell you that its nor worth thr money you are spending and the X1 had 13 buttons on the front bottom the xperia just had 3 buttons on the front bottom.
There isnt any direct call button, you will have to go back from the menu to make a call.
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Sorry to sound dumb but isn't the X1 a WM device? the 2 I asked about are both Android devices I only ask about these 2 devices as I hate WM and Apple iOS. My other oprion is to strech my budget for a HTC Wildfire (all of these handsets would be pay as you go)
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With a alternate Homelauncher (f.ex. ADW) you can bind the middle key with the dialer if you are already at the homescreen.
...and for the X8 and X10 use the sony-ericsson.com comparison tool and try to look at the phones at a market.
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I have looked at the comparison charts but I am more interested in 'real life' comparison rather then a spec for spec comparison
Gavincol78 said:
Sorry to sound dumb but isn't the X1 a WM device? the 2 I asked about are both Android devices I only ask about these 2 devices as I hate WM and Apple iOS. My other oprion is to strech my budget for a HTC Wildfire (all of these handsets would be pay as you go)
I have looked at the comparison charts but I am more interested in 'real life' comparison rather then a spec for spec comparison
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i had also a x1 wm phone, and now i have x10 mini pro and had x10, x10 mini and htc wildfire....
If you will have a small phone get the mini, i only have the pro becouse i use the qwerty keyboard much.... the mini/pro is a great phone, but the wildfire has a ugly screen, then you use a picture as wallpaper is looks ugly.....
so if i was you i will look at x10 mini or x8....
my 2 cents
knudsen81 said:
i had also a x1 wm phone, and now i have x10 mini pro and had x10, x10 mini and htc wildfire....
If you will have a small phone get the mini, i only have the pro becouse i use the qwerty keyboard much.... the mini/pro is a great phone, but the wildfire has a ugly screen, then you use a picture as wallpaper is looks ugly.....
so if i was you i will look at x10 mini or x8....
my 2 cents
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Cheers for that I am not much of a qwerty keypad user I prefer the old T9 style predictive keypad as I don't text often and I can text a lot quicker with a keypad rather then a qwerty. I know what you mean about wallpapers on the wildfire as I had previously had a Tattoo with a similer size screen
My thought
Personally I like more X8. I've got X10 mini pro two months ago. I like it, It is nice device but small resolution restrict from getting all those great apps so it is not ideal. I also thought I will use HW keyboard a lot but most of time I'm just lazy to do it. On screen keyboard could be good enough for me. Camera with autofocus is nice but I have problem with fingerprints on lens everytime I check lens out. Such small phone is hard to avoid touching the lens. And also AF is not working perfectly. I experienced decently blured pictures from time to time (just bad focus, not shutter problem). So, with X8 you can save some money and still get slightly more usable device thus better resolution. Personally I'm thinking about switch to X8 from my X10 mini.
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Cheers for that I am not much of a qwerty keypad user I prefer the old T9 style predictive keypad as I don't text often and I can text a lot quicker with a keypad rather then a qwerty. I know what you mean about wallpapers on the wildfire as I had previously had a Tattoo with a similer size screen
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the x10 mini has a good t9 keyboard, but the x8 comes with a on-screen qwerty keyboard like the x10 and not as the mini's keyboard
disreguard adils3d's juvenile comments lol...
Anyway i have a mini pro, and its a gr8 little phone but i bought it specificly because i wanted a small smartphone and a taste of android with T9 style onsceen keypad for sms...using the slider more for emails etc.
The X8 Depends if a bigger screen is more important to you and your not bothered about the lesser camera fucntions and like an onscreen qwerty apart from that i dont think there is any difference apart from price.
In the uk o2 are selling the X8 for £130!!!!
unfortunatly when I went to get the x10 mini today from CEX it had been sold so in the end I ended up getting a HTC Hero instead as they didn't have anymore x10 mini's within my price range. The X10 mini was going for £130 unlocked/sim-free but as it was sold I got a HTC Hero for £120 + £15 to get it unlocked
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unfortunatly when I went to get the x10 mini today from CEX it had been sold so in the end I ended up getting a HTC Hero instead as they didn't have anymore x10 mini's within my price range. The X10 mini was going for £130 unlocked/sim-free but as it was sold I got a HTC Hero for £120 + £15 to get it unlocked
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Htc Hero is also a great phone, works good, and if you root it you kan put android 2.2 on it
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Htc Hero is also a great phone, works good, and if you root it you kan put android 2.2 on it
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I would do but I like the HTC Sense UI which I don't think is in 2.2 yet?
I currantly have 2.1 update 1
Gavincol78 said:
I would do but I like the HTC Sense UI which I don't think is in 2.2 yet?
I currantly have 2.1 update 1
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i don't know with sense but custom rom from villian team works great with hero
http://www.villainrom.co.uk/forum/
X10 Mini is perfect small phone with lots of features better than X8
raiderkilo said:
X10 Mini is perfect small phone with lots of features better than X8
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I don't think that except camera there is any superior feature in mini than x8..
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As a X10 Mini owner, I'd say it depends a lot on its usage.
I got the X10 Mini because I already owned an Omnia HD with great camera and multimedia capabilities and I needed a second device to handle another operator.
The X10 Mini is just that, a great secondary device with great software capabilities because of Android and spectacular performance. It does hold the title of world's smallest smartphone.
However.. the small screen and resolution limits too much the android experience, making some tasks like web browsing a bit painful, not to mention software incompatibility.
For a better smartphone experience, the X8 will be a lot better.
However... for a good android smartphone experience, I'd choose none.
Given Sony Ericsson's back story with firmware updates, I wouldn't get an android from them at all..
Android apps are too much version-dependent, and SE is still late to bring an update to Éclair when every other manufacturer has moved to Froyo.
They even ridiculed themselves to the point of launching a phone with a 2 generations old firmware, the X8.
That's like launching a laptop with Windows XP right now.
And no one knows when the updates are coming.. The X10 was launched a year ago there's still no update..
All we know is that they've NEVER updated any android from them, ever.
And looking at their background SE's background with their Symbian smartphones (laughable, to say the least), I wouldn't count too much on their support.
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As a X10 Mini owner, I'd say it depends a lot on its usage.
I got the X10 Mini because I already owned an Omnia HD with great camera and multimedia capabilities and I needed a second device to handle another operator.
The X10 Mini is just that, a great secondary device with great software capabilities because of Android and spectacular performance. It does hold the title of world's smallest smartphone.
However.. the small screen and resolution limits too much the android experience, making some tasks like web browsing a bit painful, not to mention software incompatibility.
For a better smartphone experience, the X8 will be a lot better.
However... for a good android smartphone experience, I'd choose none.
Given Sony Ericsson's back story with firmware updates, I wouldn't get an android from them at all..
Android apps are too much version-dependent, and SE is still late to bring an update to Éclair when every other manufacturer has moved to Froyo.
They even ridiculed themselves to the point of launching a phone with a 2 generations old firmware, the X8.
That's like launching a laptop with Windows XP right now.
And no one knows when the updates are coming.. The X10 was launched a year ago there's still no update..
All we know is that they've NEVER updated any android from them, ever.
And looking at their background SE's background with their Symbian smartphones (laughable, to say the least), I wouldn't count too much on their support.
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Well said..
ToTTenTranz said:
As a X10 Mini owner, I'd say it depends a lot on its usage.
I got the X10 Mini because I already owned an Omnia HD with great camera and multimedia capabilities and I needed a second device to handle another operator.
The X10 Mini is just that, a great secondary device with great software capabilities because of Android and spectacular performance. It does hold the title of world's smallest smartphone.
However.. the small screen and resolution limits too much the android experience, making some tasks like web browsing a bit painful, not to mention software incompatibility.
For a better smartphone experience, the X8 will be a lot better.
However... for a good android smartphone experience, I'd choose none.
Given Sony Ericsson's back story with firmware updates, I wouldn't get an android from them at all..
Android apps are too much version-dependent, and SE is still late to bring an update to Éclair when every other manufacturer has moved to Froyo.
They even ridiculed themselves to the point of launching a phone with a 2 generations old firmware, the X8.
That's like launching a laptop with Windows XP right now.
And no one knows when the updates are coming.. The X10 was launched a year ago there's still no update..
All we know is that they've NEVER updated any android from them, ever.
And looking at their background SE's background with their Symbian smartphones (laughable, to say the least), I wouldn't count too much on their support.
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That is another reason why I was glad they had sold the X10 mini and went for my HTC Hero which already had 2.1-update1 on it and the unlock for the HTC was actually £5.99 via a reputable ebay member express-codes so £120 for HTC Hero w/ 2.1-update1 + £5.99 unlock made for a much better choice instead of £130 for a X10 mini
I have both of them.
And if the camera was the same in the x8 as in the x10 mini pro, I think the x8 was the winner.
It works faster, batterylife is longer, the screens bigger size make a real diffrence.
I use the x10 pro as everyday use and the x8's just for fun, I simply love the x8 with the exeption of the camera.
And about updates, who cares really?
If there dosent come a official realese, im sure there will come one here.
Not something there is giving me a headic
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I have both of them.
And if the camera was the same in the x8 as in the x10 mini pro, I think the x8 was the winner.
It works faster, batterylife is longer, the screens bigger size make a real diffrence.
I use the x10 pro as everyday use and the x8's just for fun, I simply love the x8 with the exeption of the camera.
And about updates, who cares really?
If there dosent come a official realese, im sure there will come one here.
Not something there is giving me a headic
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Well that would be true if SE hadn't installed a locked bootloader, able to boot only their signed roms...
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Hi guys, been a long time since I've visited XDA-Developers, boy does things change. I'm interested in buying a cheap second phone for myself, and eyeing the X10 Mini Pro. I read that Sony Ericsson officially kills possibility of Android 2.2 onwards on the X10 Mini Pro, what does it means for everyday users like me? I've been detached from mobile tech news for quite a while, so pardon my backlog of knowledge.
I also understands the system is locked, effectively blocking future port of new rendition of Android, so it's stuck on 2.1 for good.
What I intend to do with the phone is just basic email checking/replying, chat, phone, sms, calendar, social networking (mostly Twitter)... Well, that's that. Does the 2.1 is adequate to do just that?
Also, is there any issue I should know about the keyboard as I'm a heavy texter.
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What I intend to do with the phone is just basic email checking/replying, chat, phone, sms, calendar, social networking (mostly Twitter)... Well, that's that. Does the 2.1 is adequate to do just that?
Also, is there any issue I should know about the keyboard as I'm a heavy texter.
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The x10 minis can do all that with flying colours, since back when they had 1.6, even chat! 2.1, or eclair, is the current and final version of android that we'll get officially, but hey, the x10 minis are pretty awesome already! froyo has overall performance improvements, and a lot of new goodies, but all that basic stuff you are talking has always been with us and the keyboard is just great, very comfortable.
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Hi guys, been a long time since I've visited XDA-Developers, boy does things change. I'm interested in buying a cheap second phone for myself, and eyeing the X10 Mini Pro. I read that Sony Ericsson officially kills possibility of Android 2.2 onwards on the X10 Mini Pro, what does it means for everyday users like me? I've been detached from mobile tech news for quite a while, so pardon my backlog of knowledge.
I also understands the system is locked, effectively blocking future port of new rendition of Android, so it's stuck on 2.1 for good.
What I intend to do with the phone is just basic email checking/replying, chat, phone, sms, calendar, social networking (mostly Twitter)... Well, that's that. Does the 2.1 is adequate to do just that?
Also, is there any issue I should know about the keyboard as I'm a heavy texter.
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The x10 mini pro does all that wonderfully. If you want a small cheap phone that gets the basic things done then it is a good choice. The keyboard is fantastic but so is the on screen keyboard.
Thanks guys for the info. I'm smitten with the phone's compact design, I'm sure Sony Ericsson has a good reason for settling in on Android 2.1. I would be lying to say I'm not interested at all on Froyo or general Android update, but I don't even like plugging in my phones for official software update. Sure if gingerbread comes somehow for the Mini Pro (definitely from XDA-Dev user), I'd be willing to try.
and a 2.2 might come sooner than you think
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=908937
alpha released today
edit: just realized that only xrecovery is linked, but first post says that it probably comes later today
For a very long while, I was very certain we could never have this. Recently someone posted and explained that it could in fact be possible to have dualtouch as that TF-whatever digitizer might actually support dualtouch and not singletouch as we first were lead to believe.
What is the actual truth? Were we mislead yet again or is it actually not possible at all to have dualtoch? I mean, the guy did post some very convincing stuff, with other handsets having the exact same chip and supported real dualtouch. He said the software would need modding and that sort of stuff
What's your thought on this? Is it b.s. or the actual truth?
It is very true to, I myself have dualtouch as do many other x10 mini/pro users, have a look in the mini or pro development section and you will find the multitouch driver there
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Only for mini pro