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Hi all,
I have been lurking around the forums for a while and I have gone from being totally oblivious to at least feeling as though I am somewhat android-literate now, although I still have a lot to learn. I finally took the plunge and rooted my phone last week without a hitch by using the guide here. Now I'm ready to tinker.
I'm currently running on the stock Vibrant updates...the last thing I did was the OTA GPS fix that came out maybe a month or two ago (which has worked great for me btw, no more issues with GPS). I'm trying to pick a new ROM, but I'm not familiar enough with them to pick one.
My wishlist:
-I'd like to move up to a 2.2 build
-go to a more vanilla Android (not TouchWiz)
-I'd prefer speed and stability over snazzy theming or custom animations
-I'd love to get rid of the long time to startup, and the annoying sound that goes with startup/shutdown
-At this point I'm not looking to overclock (one step at a time )
-I do like my Swype keyboard, and would like to keep it
-I plan to start using my phone in place of my iPod, so music friendliness would be a plus.
I'm not sure what other info would help narrow this down, but any suggestions? I'm loving the idea that my awesome phone could be even better.
Sounds like Eugene R2 with Swype added back (it doesn't come with it).
His io kernel helps. You would really benefit from voodoo though.
Thanks for the response. I'll give that a try. I may have to read up on voodoo because I have no idea what that is, but I think I'm fairly comfortable with how to put in a new ROM or kernel.
Thanks for your help! Any other suggestions (or just agreement with the first one) would be welcome.
Yeah, curious if others have another suggestion. Nero with voodoo us gold for me.
Here is voodoo:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=870480
Nero has it though, you just need to enable it (he has really good instructions In the nero v3 thread). Always remember to disable before you flash anything else though, or you'll have to use odin to get back to stock (my warning, seriously, worth it though)
Ext4 makes the Vibrant a new phone.
I would second that opinion on Eugenes GingerBread Clone R2 . Ive been running it and I cant say anything bad about it . IO kernel has great battery life as for swype I just pulled it from NeroV3 . If you want you can go to Q&A section and I have directions and the files need to get swype running . The title is "WHERE DO I GET SWYPE FOR EUGENES GINGERBREAD CLONE?" .
I really appreciate the help guys. I'm going to give the GingerBread Clone a run here in the next hour or so and see how it goes.
Any last advice for a first time ROM-flasher?
Make sure you are not hardware locked before you do anything .
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I just wanted to thank everybody again. I kind of fell off using forums for a while, but I thought it was worth coming back to give an update. I flashed the Gingerbread Clone ROM that night and have been using it since.
I love it! My battery lasts between 30-35 hours per charge most of the time as long as I'm not gaming on it. There was a little bit of an adjustment period for a couple things, but I'm definitely happy with it. No pulldown settings toggles was a change, and the non-Swype keyboard was too. I'd say I actually prefer the new keyboard because of the good autocomplete options within just a couple letters, and I never went back to Swype.
I don't know if I could even quantify all of the little differences, but overall it seems to be snappier with better battery life. Can't complain about that! Thanks to everybody who offered suggestions.
I said 30-35 hours, but I just looked at my phone and saw I'm currently at 2 days and 6.5 hours since my last charge. Haven't used my phone a ton the last couple days, so that gives an idea of how intense the battery life has been. I'm at 54 hours and I still have another couple left if the battery indicator is to be believed.
I couldnt find another thread like it, so decided to make one, mainly to see if everyone, or just some people have a phone that pretty much takes just about everything you throw at it and then some.
I bought mine brand new out of contract (I wasnt due for a upgrade for a long time) a few days after it was released, and Ive had the same one ever since. Its been through alot, I dont consider myself to be anywhere near a n00b with the phone anymore, but looking back, putting, or attempting to put, some of the things I did on there, flashing God knows what, deleting important things that probably should never be deleted, etc.
I used to have this "try it first, read about it later" thing going on, but once I switched it around, I learned alot. Im still learning alot.
Maybe one day when they start giving me medicine for ADD I can give developing a shot lol.
So have you had to send yours back yet to get a new one? Had it all this time? Just got it recently? From my experience you have to mess up pretty bad to actually brick one of these phones.
I've had mine since sept 2010. I've had to use odin once. Been stuck.in a few a few bootloops. Other then that its been a great phone. My first rom was bionix 1.9 with jacs oc /uv kernel. Its taken everything I've thrown at it.
Powered by Axura with a dash of Voodoo
I did return mine because it was hardware locked. The new one was unfortunately locked also. But the ota update to ji6 fixed it for me.
Powered by Axura with a dash of Voodoo
I've had mine since last week because I traded it for my mytouch slide and yesterday I rooted, bricked, and rooted again. My first rom was bionix v and I don't think I can send it in for a replacement ...
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My first ROM was Obsidian, then I almost immediatley switched to Onyx. I didnt switch to a custom ROM for a while because for the most part I changed and edited the framework myself. Then I decided to say screw that, lol.
The one thing my phone wont take is a OC kernel. It works for about 2 minutes then decides to freeze up and I usually have to flash the stock kernel back. Ive tried just 1280, up to 1400 and it doesnt want any part of it. Which doesnt matter I guess. I only have about 1GB used of the 20GB available to the phone, so its fast enough.
Also, as far as Odin, Ive only HAD to use it twice, but every once in a while I like to back everything up, Format everything in CWR and go back to JFD, to kind of "start fresh".
I've had mine since late july or early august, can't remember which. But it kept powering off randomly so I did get it replaced in november i believe. I didn't start rooting/flashing until december because i was scared as **** about messing something up. I use to hate the vibrant and all its laggyness/gps issues but the devs have allowed me to have a usable phone again!
I've had mine since early september, I just recently got another one, I was complaining about my data always not connecting and t mobile went ahead and sent me another phone. Turns out I was just being throttled lol. I really have no problem with the vibrant, even before the froyo update when everyone hated their vibrant since they didn't have the update, its never bothered me, especially with all the custom roms everywhere anyway
This is starting to sound like a "vibrants anonymous" support group.. not that i've ever been to AA LOL
Had mine since july 16th. This is still my original one. I've flashed countless .zips. flashed about 10 ROMS. Used ODIN once. Taken it apart a few times to install and adjust the ffc. All of that and it still runs like a champ. Aside from the gps which used to work and now doesn't, I've had minimal problems with my device.
Sexy Vibrant featuring Nero V3 w/Voodoo, and FFC installed
A guy in my other forum posted this:
Just got off the phone with Viewsonic and other than the person did not know what he was talking about. (If I did not know better, he was trying to convince me that the Gtab was a "toy" and was not meant for any heavy lifting.) I was calling about 801.2x eap wifi access.
Anyway....
This person did inform me that the next OTA update from Viewsonic is 5 days away. Which puts it Sunday or Monday of next week.
Wow. I am waiting in anticipation of what the hell we will actually see from them. I'm sure many people are on the edge of their seats dying to find out if the next OTA uses bootloader 1.2. I guess we will find out Sunday or Monday. Almost makes me want to nvflash back to stock so I can see for myself ;-)
I called them earlier today and I was told "April timeframe". I took that as EO April.
5 days away would be SWEET, if it were true. All I know is that a lot of what 3991 has is supposed to be in there - Spanish / French language, lockscreen, Flash built-in. I also heard USB mouse support, which 3991 (and earlier) did not have.
Nice. I'm going to hold off modding my new G-tablet for a little bit. Hopefully the update comes in!
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Nice. I'm going to hold off modding my new G-tablet for a little bit. Hopefully the update comes in!
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I am in the same boat. However, I am getting frustrated with the stock rom. Maybe I am just ignorant. Cant seem to change wallpapers, get weather to work, and app store is very confusing.
I want to mod mine as soon as I get it, but with this info maybe it is better to wait.
im tempted to go for it and hack it tomorrow and nvflash it back to stock sunday, just to get one under my belt. do you think it would be worth it? will this update affect the roms any? do they have to be updated to use them with a new update?
I will be waiting for now too. This better not be a trick! I don't want to be sitting around with a slow ass GTab on my hands....
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im tempted to go for it and hack it tomorrow and nvflash it back to stock sunday, just to get one under my belt. do you think it would be worth it? will this update affect the roms any? do they have to be updated to use them with a new update?
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If (and I stress "IF") this ROM has the same bootloader as the 3991 UAT, it's going to have major affect on mods. There's still a lot of back and forth here on whether Viewsonic will keep that bootloader or not.
I mentioned this before, but the Notion Ink Adam users had to deal with this problem recently - some soft bricks over there because of it. So we'll have to see what this new firmware is like -- again, IF it shows up in five days.
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If (and I stress "IF") this ROM has the same bootloader as the 3991 UAT, it's going to have major affect on mods. There's still a lot of back and forth here on whether Viewsonic will keep that bootloader or not.
I mentioned this before, but the Notion Ink Adam users had to deal with this problem recently - some soft bricks over there because of it. So we'll have to see what this new firmware is like -- again, IF it shows up in five days.
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Seems like to everyone wants to look at own their own booloaders anymore. Too many applications. Devlopers complaining about the piracy. Sigh
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If (and I stress "IF") this ROM has the same bootloader as the 3991 UAT, it's going to have major affect on mods. There's still a lot of back and forth here on whether Viewsonic will keep that bootloader or not.
I mentioned this before, but the Notion Ink Adam users had to deal with this problem recently - some soft bricks over there because of it. So we'll have to see what this new firmware is like -- again, IF it shows up in five days.
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Roebeet,
It seems that they wouldn't have included a new bootloader in 3991 if they weren't planning to move to a new bootloader? That came out sounding strange .... What I meant to say is that it's hard to see them moving forward, then back, unless the bootloader in 3991 was not quite done, and they just hadn't gotten around to regression testing it (which I guess is what you and others who have tried 3991 ended up effectively doing.
Jim
So IF this update has a new bootloader, it could brick a modded gTab?
Is it possible to turn OTA updates OFF to make sure you dont get bricked?
My gTab comes Thursday and I want to mod it the second it comes...
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So IF this update has a new bootloader, it could brick a modded gTab?
Is it possible to turn OTA updates OFF to make sure you dont get bricked?
My gTab comes Thursday and I want to mod it the second it comes...
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Most, if not all , of the custom ROM's disable OTA updates by default. If not, you should be prompted to accept the update and all you'll have to do is decline it.
My gTab has the stock 1-3588 with cwm and a cwm backup of Calkulins Rom. Would I need to go back to nvflash to avoid problems with a OTA?
Mark
My opinion on the update (IF there is one)
This UAT 3991, I wish I had never seen it. My two cents on the matter.....
I troubleshoot for a living, and I have rolled this whole matter around my head more than a few times. What we know:
- UAT 3991 was on a new development branch they called "1.2". Stock 3588, on the other hand, is "1.1".
- UAT 3991 had a new bootloader that only seemed to work with a new kernel. You couldn't mix and match between the "1.1" and "1.2" bootloaders.
- UAT 3991 was compiled in mid February, and we found it in early March.
- A few days ago, UAT 3991 was pulled from their site completely.
- UAT 3991 has the lockscreen, Spanish/French languages, and Flash built-in.
- As per VS CS, the next released version is supposed to have all these things.
- VS is taking their sweet time releasing this new firmware.
- For UAT 3991, stock 3588 recovery was the only way to get the update. If you tried older stock, the device would soft-brick (I tried 2967 and 3389, I believe).
So what does this all mean? No idea.
My best guess is that they still MIGHT release that new bootloader, but are scared as bejesus on bricking devices. In my own tests, even if you are 3588 stock, flashing up to 3991 doesn't always work - it can soft brick at times (and TNT Lite 5 users can probably attest to that fact, as well). My best guess is that's probably the reason why it's been delayed for so long in the first place.
My suggestion: If you are stock 3588 and they release an OTA update, then it's "probably" safe (after all, it's stock to stock - so they tested it, right?). But if you are anything else, ESPECIALLY a mod here in XDA, you should hold off on using it until we rip it apart first.
This is situation where I am very glad that I remove OTA updates from TNT Lite.
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My gTab has the stock 1-3588 with cwm and a cwm backup of Calkulins Rom. Would I need to go back to nvflash to avoid problems with a OTA?
Mark
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That is a very good question and one we've been wrestling with here. The truth is that no one really knows what is coming and how it might affect us modders. My practice is:
1) nvflash to factory stock w/ CWM
2) Data wipe, clear cache and dalvik cache.
3) nvflash to factory stock w/ stock recovery
4) OTA update to 3588
5) Proceed with next mod per developer instruction.
This procedure has never failed me when applying a new mod (and for us, an OTA is a mod...). Necessary in all cases? Probably not. Does it prevent every possible failure? Of course, not. As always, YMMV.
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I am getting frustrated with the stock rom. Maybe I am just ignorant. Cant seem to change wallpapers.
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Pressing on an unoccupied portion of the classic home desktop for a second or two should bring up a dialog box for this. On mine I have to do this in the top third of the screen.
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Pressing on an unoccupied portion of the classic home desktop for a second or two should bring up a dialog box for this. On mine I have to do this in the top third of the screen.
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Have you tried the screen calibration trick -- there's a thread around here somewhere
I know and love EXT4.... I've sweared by voodoo and it was the only lagfix I ever even considered. Until recently.
I went back to stock JFD (use my guide if you like)
I downloaded and flashed Heathens Private Stock
* please note voodoo is not enabled, if you have voodoo, disable it before flashing if you don't odin back to jfd first.
And...
I can not tell a difference without Voodoo. It seems JUST as fast if not faster than the previous ROMs I have used. A huge kudos to jellette as this ROM feels very nice and has a very nice theme to it. Switching back and forth between apps and they load very fast.. not noticing lag like on JFD. I realize Froyo helped this, just surprised is all.
Benefits:
- Discovered if /system is EXT4 *voodoo* you can't restore a backup in CWR
- Not having to worry about disabling voodoo (not done so much anymore)
- Seems just as fast and phone is how it shipped
- Voodoo Sound can be loaded from the Voodoo Control Plus app (not missing that feature)
Cons:
-Not sure yet, I suppose lower quadrant scores (meaningless anyway). I am getting barely over 1k, but it feels just as fast as when I was using voodoo.
Encourage you guys to backup everything, go back to stock and then try this ROM....
Question remains, is voodoo necessary?
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I know and love EXT4.... I've sweared by voodoo and it was the only lagfix I ever even considered. Until recently.
I went back to stock JFD (use my guide if you like)
I downloaded and flashed Heathens Private Stock
And...
I can not tell a difference without Voodoo. It seems JUST as fast if not faster than the previous ROMs I have used. A huge kudos to jellette as this ROM feels very nice and has a very nice theme to it. Switching back and forth between apps and they load very fast.. not noticing lag like on JFD. I realize Froyo helped this, just surprised is all.
Benefits:
- Discovered if /system is EXT4 *voodoo* you can't restore a backup in CWR
- Not having to worry about disabling voodoo (not done so much anymore)
- Seems just as fast and phone is how it shipped
- Voodoo Sound can be loaded from the Voodoo Control Plus app (not missing that feature)
Cons:
-Not sure yet, I suppose lower quadrant scores (meaningless anyway). I am getting barely over 1k, but it feels just as fast as when I was using voodoo.
Encourage you guys to backup everything, go back to stock and then try this ROM....
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Good question! I was actually wondering this the other day. I tried a few different ROMs without lagfix.
I was wondering the same thing about it. "Is lagfix just a workaround to cheat higher quadrant scores?"
After a day or so on any ROM I tried without lagfix you would notice a slow down mainly in shutting down programs. Sometimes they would take up to 5 seconds to close! Opening programs slowed some but not nearly as noticeable. The dialer would take some time to open as well.
So in my experience lagfix seems to speed the phone in read/write capabilities. Which I imagine is what it was desinged for. You notice in Quadrant, that is where the most improvement is (In I/O).
So if you arent a real big phone geek (like most of us probably are) then the lagfix shouldnt make a huge difference to you. But, for me, I like my phone to fly doing anything. So lagfix enabled here!
It's not all about the speed. Its good to have a standard. This phone should've been on ext4 from the start. Supercurio has done a great job getting everyone switched over. I don't believe rfs is supported in cwm3+ either.
Just my opinion. I always use it. If I flash something else its an easy fix. Just flash an ext4 compatible kernel!
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I just reread your post, and I've never had a problem restoring backups. In fact, I flashed to an i9k Gingerbread ROM this morning, played around with it for a while (read: smashed my face against the gps), flashed a Froyo kernel and restored my nandroid without ever using ODIN or RFS
rfs = sux ballz (wen i first got my phone and started rooting one of the first things out of my mouth was wtf is rfs!)
ext4 = ahh, thats btr
I agree that stock felt oddly similar with voodoo enabled and disabled when i tried it for a day yesterday.
I disagree that you cant restore nandroids with CwMRecovery. For me it seems like its hit and miss which i'm gonna continue to test.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13284392#post13284392
Don't get me wrong....
Like I said, I love Voodoo.. I've only considered EXT4 and it is my preference... thought I made that clear.
BUT, I have not noticed any difference with it vs. using jellette's ROM, and that is really surprising to me. I know it can tend to "slow down" over time (which I do not understand why).. but changing from app to app I am noticing no difference.
Regarding restoring backups....
I said that because the man himself made THIS COMMENT just yesterday. I have had issues in the past (5 x maybe) where a restore failed, never knowing why. I've also had them restore fine, not sure why the difference.
s15274n said:
I know and love EXT4.... I've sweared by voodoo and it was the only lagfix I ever even considered. Until recently.
I went back to stock JFD (use my guide if you like)
I downloaded and flashed Heathens Private Stock
And...
I can not tell a difference without Voodoo. It seems JUST as fast if not faster than the previous ROMs I have used. A huge kudos to jellette as this ROM feels very nice and has a very nice theme to it. Switching back and forth between apps and they load very fast.. not noticing lag like on JFD. I realize Froyo helped this, just surprised is all.
Benefits:
- Discovered if /system is EXT4 *voodoo* you can't restore a backup in CWR
- Not having to worry about disabling voodoo (not done so much anymore)
- Seems just as fast and phone is how it shipped
- Voodoo Sound can be loaded from the Voodoo Control Plus app (not missing that feature)
Cons:
-Not sure yet, I suppose lower quadrant scores (meaningless anyway). I am getting barely over 1k, but it feels just as fast as when I was using voodoo.
Encourage you guys to backup everything, go back to stock and then try this ROM....
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Thanks for the info on Jelletts ROM. I am definitely going to try it out. I don't know about voodoo will test your theory for myself but kudos to Supercurio and the wonders he has made for us in the mean time.
I hear ya bro. Im not trying to ruffle any feathers here and yeah I saw u an koush tryin ta figure it out last night. Just thought i'd post my half and half results is all since I confirmed MD5 mismatch on one restore but an all good restore directly after and both with voodoo enabled which was posted as a possible problem. Didn't mean to sound as if I were putting werdz in ur mouth tho if I did. Just tryina help a brotha out!=)
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I hear ya bro. Im not trying to ruffle any feathers here and yeah I saw u an koush tryin ta figure it out last night. Just thought i'd post my half and half results is all since I confirmed MD5 mismatch on one restore but an all good restore directly after and both with voodoo enabled which was posted as a possible problem. Didn't mean to sound as if I were putting werdz in ur mouth tho if I did. Just tryina help a brotha out!=)
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I understood you perfectly.. just didn't want others to think I was trying to say something I was not. Thanks man.
Talked to Ben Buchacher, you know the creator of SuperD.
I asked him what ROM and if he had lagfix.
He said he was using stock 2.2 and no lagfix, the lag went away in 2.2
PS he said TW ROMs weren't great.
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Wait, does Ben have a Vibrant?
He made THE rom for the G1. I could still run super d on my g1 and tolerate it.
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Wait, does Ben have a Vibrant?
He made THE rom for the G1. I could still run super d on my g1 and tolerate it.
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Yea! A long time ago.
He is waiting for cm7 to get stable to start working
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Dude, that makes me so freaking happy. Is there a reason he is not gracing us on XDA.. I loved that guy back in the day.
You keep saying your using his rom, but which one are you referring to in hist thread? there is a 2.2.1 and a 2.2
I tried the 2.2 and it was laggy like the stock 2.2 and I have taken my phone all the way back to closed box and brought it up to 2.2(KB5) and there is always lag there. I don't mind Touchwiz but when a couple weeks go by and my phone starts crawling across the ground like a drunken sailor it gets a little aggravating.
Basically in my experience any rom, and I mean any, with or without voodoo runs great for a few weeks, but then the slowness comes back and you start to notice apps taking longer to open and close, MMS really starts to lag as well as the keyboard when typing. the gallery really takes a hit and showing pictures off on my 500 dollar 1Ghz phone becomes embarrassing. So with or without voodoo stock 2.2 on the Vibrant seems to run great but runs out of gas in a few weeks, some may last a month. 2.2.1(sucks with no Wifi calling) seems to keep going much better, and the browser is faster. So if your running 2.2.1 of his then yea you might see a better faster rom, but if you run his 2.2 I bet after a few weeks of regular use you will start seeing lag and get frustrated. And I bet even the 2.2.1 will start to crawl at some point.
Now I'm not dissing his rom or anyone else's. They are all based off of the crap the Samsung shoved out the door and yea a few tweaks here and there help, but every rom always seems to start crawling at some point and nothing seems to bring it back to day one other then reflashing.
Well, I guess once it's been out for a few weeks I will let you know. I am taking one of our best developers word on this matter though. I'm not saying I am right.. just pointing out someone smarter than me says so, and after using it for a few days I have to agree... so far.
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Well, I guess once it's been out for a few weeks I will let you know. I am taking one of our best developers word on this matter though. I'm not saying I am right.. just pointing out someone smarter than me says so, and after using it for a few days I have to agree... so far.
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which rom are you running the 2.2.1 or 2.2
The only thing really keeping me on 2.2 roms is wifi calling.
I'm on 2.2.
The rom is not perfect, but it works very well for me so far. I went to cut on my screen and it was stuck at all black (buttons would lite up) so I just held in power to reboot.... first time I've noticed ANY issue with this rom. Odd, I think it had something to do with me going crazy backing out of the browser and then shutting down my screen.
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I'm on 2.2.
The rom is not perfect, but it works very well for me so far. I went to cut on my screen and it was stuck at all black (buttons would lite up) so I just held in power to reboot.... first time I've noticed ANY issue with this rom. Odd, I think it had something to do with me going crazy backing out of the browser and then shutting down my screen.
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I have gotten that on quite a few roms including two versions of trigger and three stock builds. I get out of it by pressing the power button 3-5 times giving about 1-2 seconds between presses and it eventually came back.
I might try the 2.2 build out eventually.
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Dude, that makes me so freaking happy. Is there a reason he is not gracing us on XDA.. I loved that guy back in the day.
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He is waiting for CM to be a better build than right now. He wont work with a TouchWiz base.
I loled when I asked him why he wasn't using a custom rom from TW and he said it sucked!
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He is waiting for CM to be a better build than right now. He wont work with a TouchWiz base.
I loled when I asked him why he wasn't using a custom rom from TW and he said it sucked!
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I'm not a fan of putting anyones work down.. especially when it's free/
I once knew a dog by the name of Raphael Francisco Sanchez. He pooped in the same place everyday, and then walked through it like the dumb mutt he was. Over time the poop built up till eventually the dog could no longer run and play with all the other little doggies, and when the lawnmower came around that spring, Raphael Francisco Sanchez barked his last bark.
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My wife and I had Motorola XT720s and her USB borked out the other day. Our carrier replaced hers with a Vibrant and sent her on her way. Needless to say, she liked the XT720 and wants me to take the Vibrant. Since we have been on the most unholy of manufacturers (locked bootloader and no updates-yep was sold and bought on 2.1 [eclair kernal] over a year ago) I have been maintaining both our phones. We have successfully upgraded our phones to 2.2, miui, CM6/7 all with the locked bootloader and a little erseverance and a lot of adb learning.
My question is what can I do with the Vibrant and what are the better ROMs that you have? I am not affraid to get into the guts of the phone and work from that way. She just got it yesterday and when I got home, she pitched the switch to me, so this weekend, I'll root it, back up and then checkout the forums to see what is what.
Good ROMs/ Kernals (stability v experimental)?
Overclocking?
How to unlock the bootloader? I kow how on Nexus S but that is not this obviously.
Known issues with the phone in general, either software or hardware (i.e power button breaks after 2 mos. Stuff like that)
I already looked at the sticky nOOb guide for rooting. Is that update.zip the best way. Or should I use z4 or Superoneclick? I used Universal Androot before but that doesn't support Froyo kernals.
Basically, what do you like and and your opinions. The decision will be mine but I like to be informed. And I actually do like to read the threads, but we just got this yesterday and wanted to put out the feelers.
Thanks to all for your help and I look forward to the responses.
first, if your hardware locked, youre gonna havr to find the thread on how to unlock... do this FIRST.
We have several roms, they range from stable to fast and unstable
Imo, that would be froyo like bionix to cm7 respectively.. cm7 flys but its batt sucks and gps is practicallu nonexistant (not that good iin froyo tho)
There is oc up to like 1.7ghz tho my phone doesnt do more than 1.6 stable...
Also, never use kies under any circumstance and learn to use odin Well.
Thats my advice... welcome
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younix258 said:
first, if your hardware locked, youre gonna havr to find the thread on how to unlock... do this FIRST.
We have several roms, they range from stable to fast and unstable
Imo, that would be froyo like bionix to cm7 respectively.. cm7 flys but its batt sucks and gps is practicallu nonexistant (not that good iin froyo tho)
There is oc up to like 1.7ghz tho my phone doesnt do more than 1.6 stable...
Also, never use kies under any circumstance and learn to use odin Well.
Thats my advice... welcome
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That's great. Just the sort of thing I am looking for.
Couple of questions.
As far as OC. Is that an app or is it through a differnt kernal. I know that some kernals oc and undervolt or stock cpu and undervolt. There is an app in the market that was for Motorola that was called Milestone Overclock (I know real original right) and with that and SetCPU was able to oc my 550mhz to 1100. Is there a Vibrant app similar?
How do I tell if my hardware is locked? Once I know, then I will search the threads for that. I already saw some in here with regards to how to do it. I already got into stock recovery last night just to check and see if I could (have't put CWR in or rooted yet-will do that later on tonight). Does this mean it isn't HWL or am I completely missing the target?
Odin I assume is what RSDlite is to Motorola. You power up to bootloader, connect to PC and flash "stock" sbf files (which is basically what came in the box). I always like to have that on hand just in case. I'll google and check it out.
Thanks for the info and glad to be here.
Read the noob stockier guide. Has all the info you need. Also in the development section down load the aio vibrant toolbox. Has Odin, all the files you need. I recommend the rom bi winning V3. It has a kernel that can overclock. You need an app for that tho. I like set CPU because it has profile management for off screen, charging etc.. good luck.
To tell if your hardware locked turn your phone off and hold down both volume rockers and press the power button when you see the vibrant logo pop up, keep holding untilled it goes away then pops up again. Then let go of the power. It should boot into recovery mode. It will be black screen with blue letters that say reboot phone, reinstall packages, wipe data. It may take a few times to get the hang of it. If your unable to then your phones is hardware locked.
Okay, youce been in recov so youre not hw locked.... greggory, you only have to hold power button till you see anything oon the screen the first time... holding it after that just makes it hw reboot whivh works, but is a waste of time.
Okay OP, odin has some nice ffeatures that let you flash bootloaders and firmware both.. truthfully, you can flash ANY rewritable media in your phone except internal and external sd from.odin afaik.
Oc requires an oc kernel and an oc app... app for ocing include voltage control, which was made for samsung galaxy s, set cpu, which i dislike, cpu master, no-frills ... all of em work most of the time and i use Voltage control..
Am i forgetting tto address anything?
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Ok so I've been using for a few days & I have to say the I really like this phone. Rooted and installed CWR lickity-split. Want to mess around and get more comfortable with surroundings, but have a few questions.
I dl'd Tegrak OC and am using it just fine. Any suggestions on stock kernal settings. Not applying any ROMs/Kernals for now, but setting suggestions would be helpful.
Got USB connection loop. Think I have a fix for that. Need to test some more.
Do I really have to name it update.zip to make "it" work, or can I name it anything else. Tried a few other names and they don't seem to install. Update.zip v buttermilkbiscuit.zip. why?
Does zipthemer work on this phone and do I have to name it Update.zip to make it work?
To change fonts, where do I put ttf? In settings there is a font changer, but where is the folder for that. Know it isn't /system/fonts BC that is a global changer but can't find it anywhere else. Looked in /data, /android and /sdcard. Clues?
Woodrube said:
Ok so I've been using for a few days & I have to say the I really like this phone. Rooted and installed CWR lickity-split. Want to mess around and get more comfortable with surroundings, but have a few questions.
I dl'd Tegrak OC and am using it just fine. Any suggestions on stock kernal settings. Not applying any ROMs/Kernals for now, but setting suggestions would be helpful.
Got USB connection loop. Think I have a fix for that. Need to test some more.
Do I really have to name it update.zip to make "it" work, or can I name it anything else. Tried a few other names and they don't seem to install. Update.zip v buttermilkbiscuit.zip. why?
Does zipthemer work on this phone and do I have to name it Update.zip to make it work?
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Ok i think you should flash rom an kernel it takes phone to another an you do have to name it update.zip that is what recovery looks for an that is how custom one is installed i dont know what zip themer is but if u mean apply thme with zip then yes u can
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Ok i think you should flash rom an kernel it takes phone to another an you do have to name it update.zip that is what recovery looks for an that is how custom one is installed i dont know what zip themer is but if u mean apply thme with zip then yes u can
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I'll flash soon enough, just want to get my feet wet a bit. Only had phone for two days, so still picking and searching. More suggestions on ROMs/kernals, other than above?
Zipthemer is sweet. It takes all unzipped Metamorph.xmls, packages into one .zip and also creates and undo.zip too. Great themer.
There is a font changer in settings, but where is the folder to put the ttf file? /system/font is global, but looked in /data and /android and can't figure where to put it.
Just doing some house cleaning in my account and found this thread. It was my first thread in the Vibrant fora, just 5 short months ago.
Seems like so long ago. Have learned so much since then. Some have gone and some are still here, but I love this phone and the community that supports it.
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Just doing some house cleaning in my account and found this thread. It was my first thread in the Vibrant fora, just 5 short months ago.
Seems like so long ago. Have learned so much since then. Some have gone and some are still here, but I love this phone and the community that supports it.
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Lmao I was reading this thread going .... is wood trolling us right now till the last post then I looked at the dates lol
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Woodrube said:
Just doing some house cleaning in my account and found this thread. It was my first thread in the Vibrant fora, just 5 short months ago.
Seems like so long ago. Have learned so much since then. Some have gone and some are still here, but I love this phone and the community that supports it.
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Lol ... I couldn't resist! Just had to take a peak here - esp. seeing Woody's name and "New to the phone" in the title!! :what:
Woodman ...
The Vibrant fora wouldn't be the same experience without your participation, brother. Your ICS Guide thread (and our extensive GB BL discussion ... lol) originally inspired me to take the ICS leap (as well build the nerve to finally register and participate in threads here - ie. I was a long time "lurker"). Haven't looked back since.
Thanks for your efforts to ensuring all our Vibrant experiences stay ... well ... "Vibrant"!
That is funny. I just went back a re-read that thread. There is some good Q and A in there about all types of scenarios. Alot of familiar names too that have moved up in the ranks of experience as well.
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That is funny. I just went back a re-read that thread. There is some good Q and A in there about all types of scenarios. Alot of familiar names too that have moved up in the ranks of experience as well.
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Haha ... I just did the same. That thread could have been called, "Everything you wanted to know about ICS ... but weren't afraid to ask." Hilarious.
I'm not sure what wasn't discussed. We hit all the corners including some homescreen screenshots as icing on the cake. Great (re)read!
I completely forgot that some of the Zen crew had joined in ... Mostdef, bobshute, xriderx66. Lol. :thumbup:
Noobs these days
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This was fun to read, seeing Wood just entering the Vibrant community. The new guy on the block. Now look at you, you're one of the most recognized Vibrant users.
I remember my first post on XDA. I was messing around with Rom Manager and accidentally installed CWR. You wouldn't believe how much I was panicking, I thought I had bricked my phone! Lol, shows how much I knew.
Actually, that's why my name is "N00B_IN_N33D", because I was a noob who was in need of help. After I figured out how to Odin back to stock, which removed the (what I thought was) evil CWR I thought I wouldn't mess with my phone anymore. However s15274n talked me into flashing a custom froyo rom, Trigger, if I remember correctly. From there I blossomed in my understanding of Android and my Vibrant...
Anyhow, back on topic. It's amazing how experienced people have become here.
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xriderx66 said:
Noobs these days
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We all growed up real good.
N00B_IN_N33D said:
This was fun to read, seeing Wood just entering the Vibrant community. The new guy on the block. Now look at you, you're one of the most recognized Vibrant users.
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Anyhow, back on topic. It's amazing how experienced people have become here.
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The Woodman deserves his due "respect" (but you have to say it the way AliG would to get the full effect). True Zen-like patience and an extremely rare dedication to help people. He's good peoples. No doubt!
Speaking of the way-back machine ... I can't even remember what Froyo was like. Do you? Then there's Eclair (yikes!). :what: I do remember the jump from Froyo to GB was pretty substantial. CM7 with those novel toggle bars and major speed boosts. Then ICS just took the phone to another level.
I remember the first time I rooted my phone, I was soooo damn nervous that I'd end up with a brick. I was just using SuperOneClick ... lol. The first time using Odin after reading all the horror stories here. The first time waiting through the VLF EXT4 conversion (seemed to take forever).
Been a fun ride.
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The first time waiting through the VLF EXT4 conversion (seemed to take forever).
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The first time I flashed a Froyo Voodoo kernel, I was in my basement watching a west coast baseball game and it was late. The wife and kids were asleep and like you said, it took forever. Forgot to turn the volume off when I did it. So I am sitting there watching the game and I see the Bali palm tree. I think cool, whatever. I return to the game and out of nowhere, I hear this lady's voice. Thought it must have been the parabolic on TV picking up some lady in the stands. Then I hear it again. Kind of freaked me out until I realized it was LINDA. I'll tell ya, if you are ready for her, she'll freak you the f**k out.
Anyways, thanks for the kind words. I remember one of the many freak out, panic sessions I've had in the past and there was always someone who helped me out. Just feel it is my duty to give back. Now if I can solve this Encryption Error bug, I'll have come full circle. It is driving me nuts.
I remember one of my first threads back in 2009
It was a fake Hero ROM for G1
I bashed on two devs and everyone was pissed at me....then when I moved to the Vibrant I got a clean start
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The first time I flashed a Froyo Voodoo kernel, I was in my basement watching a west coast baseball game and it was late. The wife and kids were asleep and like you said, it took forever. Forgot to turn the volume off when I did it. So I am sitting there watching the game and I see the Bali palm tree. I think cool, whatever. I return to the game and out of nowhere, I hear this lady's voice. Thought it must have been the parabolic on TV picking up some lady in the stands. Then I hear it again. Kind of freaked me out until I realized it was LINDA. I'll tell ya, if you are ready for her, she'll freak you the f**k out.
Anyways, thanks for the kind words. I remember one of the many freak out, panic sessions I've had in the past and there was always someone who helped me out. Just feel it is my duty to give back. Now if I can solve this Encryption Error bug, I'll have come full circle. It is driving me nuts.
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atleast your LINDA issue was panicked and gone.
I was in the bathroom taking a dump while the conversion went on... it freaked me out, and my mom thought i was watching porn in there -.-'
She then told this story at our family reunion... Almost died of embarrassment