Xperia x10 Kitchen (for innocent people willing to try) - XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Simply wanting to know what kind of tools (kitchen) people use to make the roms.
Cant seem to understand how to port from from other devices to the x10.
Really am willing to try and learn abit.
Have done alot of google searching but nothing comes up with xperia. Nothing i feel helps my needs. Just want to be on the same page as the developers in this site.
Give a brother a hand here.....

norkos said:
Simply wanting to know what kind of tools (kitchen) people use to make the roms.
Cant seem to understand how to port from from other devices to the x10.
Really am willing to try and learn abit.
Have done alot of google searching but nothing comes up with xperia. Nothing i feel helps my needs. Just want to be on the same page as the developers in this site.
Give a brother a hand here.....
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Guess this is a good place to start...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633246

telmoabff said:
Guess this is a good place to start...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633246
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Thing is that i have all that done, got the ubuntu running fine aswell, just dont understand how i can "lets say" port a 2.2 froyo to our x10? I really cant seem to understand this part. Do i have to place some system files? Any help would be appreciated.
Ty for your time mate

it is unix /linux stuff
currenly we are locked out to SE kernel, so you "just" have to mak froyo compatible to SE kernel .
It means to optimize , change, recompile modules, "drivers" and so on, of course debuging ,

thermoska said:
it is unix /linux stuff
currenly we are locked out to SE kernel, so you "just" have to mak froyo compatible to SE kernel .
It means to optimize , change, recompile modules, "drivers" and so on, of course debuging ,
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okey, my question to you is i can take what ever rom i want out there and install it from xrecovery, and it will run? Becouse this is what i am wondering, how i can port another rom to x10. Ofc the bugs comes after but thats another thing i have to search for.

sorry, but everything was answered in my previous post
NO you can not.
Every phone have a different hardware, software modification is requred.You have to modifi "drivers" to the current hardware. I think you are Windows boy so better example is :Will your nvidia card works on ATI drivers ?
First you have know a bit more than basics from unix / linux world, like :
modules
kernel
drivers
libraries
filesystems
swap
mount points ... and so on ..
I can see you are not home in Linux /unix thema , if you will understand the basic rules from linux world, then just port your knowledge to the android.
And voila you are ready to cook .
Remeber there are many people with big knowledge and willingness to help. Just ask them, imho unix/linux people share their knowledge with hapiness .

thermoska said:
sorry, but everything was answered in my previous post
NO you can not.
Every phone have a different hardware, software modification is requred.You have to modifi "drivers" to the current hardware. I think you are Windows boy so better example is :Will your nvidia card works on ATI drivers ?
First you have know a bit more than basics from unix / linux world, like :
modules
kernel
drivers
libraries
filesystems
swap
mount points ... and so on ..
I can see you are not home in Linux /unix thema , if you will understand the basic rules from linux world, then just port your knowledge to the android.
And voila you are ready to cook .
Remeber there are many people with big knowledge and willingness to help. Just ask them, imho unix/linux people share their knowledge with hapiness .
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I know small things about linux. But this is not my issue, i am willing to install another rom from another device. "How can i port the rom to? what kind of files do i "for sure" need to change. Please forcus on my problem rather then trying to disrespect my intellect. If you dont know the answer, simply dont post.

norkos said:
I know small things about linux. But this is not my issue, i am willing to install another rom from another device. "How can i port the rom to? what kind of files do i "for sure" need to change. Please forcus on my problem rather then trying to disrespect my intellect. If you dont know the answer, simply dont post.
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I don't think he intended to disrespect. He is right when he say, the more you know about linux, the easier it'll be.
Anyway, the first step will be to change drivers for hardware support depending of your hardware.
As he said start with the kitchen from unlocker. And with that, all question you have will be answered here: http://developer.android.com/index.html

good info

I really dont think hes openly trying to insult your intellect and what he says is correct. Before you get to the actual porting and modifying your going to need some programming skills and a good understanding of how drivers and such work and how they can be modified. Remember that the idea is to get the software to talk to the hardware. Its unfortunately not as simple as just taking files and making a change here or there and then including that in your rom files.
Not trying to say dont learn it, just need to know where to start your journey of learning.
Happy programming! (Which is good because i have done programming and hate it with a passion)
Edit: also remember that a knowledge of linux IS the problem as android is simply linux.
Sent from my X10i using XDA App

norkos said:
I know small things about linux. But this is not my issue, i am willing to install another rom from another device. "How can i port the rom to? what kind of files do i "for sure" need to change. Please forcus on my problem rather then trying to disrespect my intellect. If you dont know the answer, simply dont post.
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I do not want to disrespect your intelect or knowledge or harm you in any way ..
I only want to explain you what you can wait and what you will need.
As ttf said you need to modify hardware drivers first.(btw I said it before too), These drivers have to be modified to the actual X10 hardware, but also to our current kernel!
froyo have 2.32 kernel by default our x10 have 2.29(+ modified by SE).
Cyanogen have its own kernel and CM Rom will never work on its full beaty without CM Kernel . (if it is possible it will take enourmos time and effort)

ttf said:
I don't think he intended to disrespect.
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+1. Might be best posting in HERE.

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HTC tyntyn 9600

Dear all
i would like to known if a possible to install linux OSn on my device phone and if we can install linux OS on the device we can use it to cell phone send SMS MMS ...ect.
would you like please how i can do it and where i can to download it if possible with a faq .
thanks
Best regard
Maybe, you 'll find answers here.
thanks you but i am not expert to changing os this topic i know it but i can't understant what i should to do the first
thnaks a lot but i think i will keep my os windows on my device
best regard
well you know I think, that linux os on the PDA is only for enthusiasts and people, who know how to use it, how to configure it, and what is an advantage of it. if you are standard user, and have no linux administrative skills, then I cannot recommend this for you. even though it is possible to run linux on some devices. it is nice POC (proof of concept), that it is possible to run linux on such devices, but it is not usable by standard users. yet. maybe after few years... maybe the Android project is the answer - here and here.
angelus_kit said:
thanks you but i am not expert to changing os this topic i know it but i can't understant what i should to do the first
thnaks a lot but i think i will keep my os windows on my device
best regard
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Update necessary for Newbies ?

Hello,
I have my Hero for a month and know that Android 2.0 is coming...
I would like to be advised if it is good to update my Phone which is version :
2.6.27-a5504199
build : 1.76.66.5 146733
Soft : 1.0.0.A6288
Is this one recent version, is this usefull to update to anewer version... What I tried but not working troughout HTC.com
I know I need to root my phone, but what will it bring to my phone as rextra features or speed...
So, please give me your feedback and if it were your phone what will you do... ?
thanks for your reply
if it were my phone i'd install modacos custom rom 2.9
thanks, but what does offer it more ?
it gives you everything that it says it will in the first post of the thread over at modacos forums. or here at the forums. i believe in you, you can read all that.
yes I can read, and I've already read the topic at modaco... but nothing clear for me, and is it quicker than my original ? exept the radio update cwich give me better signal, what can I expect ???
buzjay said:
yes I can read, and I've already read the topic at modaco... but nothing clear for me, and is it quicker than my original ? exept the radio update cwich give me better signal, what can I expect ???
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it is way faster. and has some tools. and is rooted.
To add to what all above members have contributed , I can say that
Modaco is a master chef and adds all tasty ingridients and spices to our taste.
sorry can we just take a step back a moment? (sorry to sort of hijack this thread with another question, though related)
can someone explain what rooted means in terms of these phones?
im also new to using smart phones, great phone, though when something goes wrong its bit more tricky to sort out.
SimplySquare said:
sorry can we just take a step back a moment? (sorry to sort of hijack this thread with another question, though related)
can someone explain what rooted means in terms of these phones?
im also new to using smart phones, great phone, though when something goes wrong its bit more tricky to sort out.
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you can execute commands as user "root". means you can do everything, including access every part of the filesystem, delete/replace/alter every file. wifi or bluetooth tethering needs it for example. also droidwall, which can control web access for apps.
ok i understand that. so does that mean i could delete things like the stocks n shares app along with peep and other things i dont need or want?
Would this enable me to change the colour of the menu bar at the bottom or even the whole theme itself? if so could someone direct me on what to do?dont want to mess anything up.
but also as buzjay asks is the new update neccesary?
sorry these questions must sound so simple lol just want to make sure before i go delving into the bowls of the phone.
thanks
- yes
- yes. ask someone in the themes section who already did it or find out by looking at their themes.
- it is not "necessary". your phone does make calls without it, doesn't it?

[Q]Tools to initialize my own ROM x10i

Hi everybody!
I would like to know what programs I need to create my own ROM . I searched everywhere and I could not find concrete answers. Could you help me with that?.
Regards!​
If everyone have this tool to make their own preferred ROM, then what for those X10 developers are trying their best to make good ROM now??
Slowly man, making a ROM is not easy, knowledge is what all about
Nothing comes easy.
Yes, I know. But I want to start my own ROM to learn about this Andriod's world. I'm a java developer and I undestand that nothing comes easy.
HeroeMode said:
Yes, I know. But I want to start my own ROM to learn about this Andriod's world. I'm a java developer and I undestand that nothing comes easy.
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I don't think that you can create a ROM with a program. You could maybe start porting ROMs from other devices with THIS guide
Ok! Do you like the word "modify"? Well, yes. I want to modify a ROM, but the thread send me, it's a good start.

[help]

I hope I'm not posting this in the wrong forum, but i'm posting here because i think i am in the right place.. If not mods please move this to appropriate forum..
So I'm on the nexus s 4g and i'm feeling like i'm ready to get into porting and then development.. I really just need help understanding eclipse and how to port in general.. I know eclipse is great for developement and I just installed the adt and the sdks through eclipse and I need to know how to set this up so I can run a logcat through adb so I can see why my port isn't fully booting.. I'm stuck at the boot animation.. I've tried reading some guides but because i'm still a noob i feel like there's always something i'm missing.. I was hoping someone here would be so kind as to help run me through on getting this set up and helping me understand the fundementals..
there are many that know more than me, but i can try to help a little bit...
first off, im going to assume you are porting roms, not apps, because of how you have things worded i was a bit confused at first.
now, eclipse is an amazing IDE, but when it comes to porting android roms from device to device its not going to be much (if any at all) help to you. eclipse is great for application development, and building a full, ready to install android package (apk) for pushing to the market or side-loaded. (installed on data partition)
there dont tend to be many guides or strait line ways do do things. it all comes out of experience and good problem solving skills. learn to read your logcats, understand what they are saying. you will get it!
im more of a source built kind-of-guy, and never did any porting of pre-compiled roms. but i know http://freeyourandroid.com/ is a great resource for getting started with just that.
please also think about looking into the android build system, its complicated, but you will get it eventually, and it will teach you how a rom really works, and is really built, and it gives you complete control to do anything you want.
hope this was a little help.
a very wise man once said : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=667298
gh123man said:
there are many that know more than me, but i can try to help a little bit...
first off, im going to assume you are porting roms, not apps, because of how you have things worded i was a bit confused at first.
now, eclipse is an amazing IDE, but when it comes to porting android roms from device to device its not going to be much (if any at all) help to you. eclipse is great for application development, and building a full, ready to install android package (apk) for pushing to the market or side-loaded. (installed on data partition)
there dont tend to be many guides or strait line ways do do things. it all comes out of experience and good problem solving skills. learn to read your logcats, understand what they are saying. you will get it!
im more of a source built kind-of-guy, and never did any porting of pre-compiled roms. but i know http://freeyourandroid.com/ is a great resource for getting started with just that.
please also think about looking into the android build system, its complicated, but you will get it eventually, and it will teach you how a rom really works, and is really built, and it gives you complete control to do anything you want.
hope this was a little help.
a very wise man once said : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=667298
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the only reason i was setting up eclipse for this was because it was to my understanding it had the tools needed to get adb to produce a logcat, i've delt with apps before.. I made myself a lil launcher for miui and a couple others, but i just have no idea on how to do anything with adb and gettings log cats.. I do appreciate your response and i will take a look at that website.

[Q] android developing

Can anyone tell me what a guy can do in android developement if he is not programmer ??
1.can he port apps or stock roms (if yes than how where to start )
2.can he make apps
what else can he do ?
You need basic programming knowledge to do all that
RoberGalarga said:
You need basic programming knowledge to do all that
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i only know gw basic programming but i know its not useful as android developement requires c++
Anything without programming ?
i am learning c++ but even if I learned where can I start to port
You can always follow tutorials .. it takes long time for u than those with programming knowledge... There is everthing in net what u need to know..... I learned web designing n photoshopping myself without any multimedia or programming knowlege( i'm in medical field)... i always follow specific tutorial for evertime i need to do something.. i had the opportunity to be an admin with full power of a forum which still i'm, and access to do all work for it where i did all work n never given any work for proffessionals..
So best way is actually start doing it rather than trying to learn n then do it... trial n error method is best way for those who dont have any knowledge or experience... Now i'm thinking of touching my hand in Android let me see
s-X-s said:
You can always follow tutorials .. it takes long time for u than those with programming knowledge... There is everthing in net what u need to know..... I learned web designing n photoshopping myself without any multimedia or programming knowlege( i'm in medical field)... i always follow specific tutorial for evertime i need to do something.. i had the opportunity to be an admin with full power of a forum which still i'm, and access to do all work for it where i did all work n never given any work for proffessionals..
So best way is actually start doing it rather than trying to learn n then do it... trial n error method is best way for those who dont have any knowledge or experience... Now i'm thinking of touching my hand in Android let me see
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but i cant see any TUT for porting and for making apps every TUT includes programming steps
rocky_99 said:
but i cant see any TUT for porting and for making apps every TUT includes programming steps
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You have to dig into it... As google's tutorials say- You start with some .apk in the category of ur interest by modifying n learning to develope to ur ideas.... Dont try first of all to develope an app from scratch.. it meant for Those who have indepth knowledge....
s-X-s said:
You have to dig into it... As google's tutorials say- You start with some .apk in the category of ur interest by modifying n learning to develope to ur ideas.... Dont try first of all to develope an app from scratch.. it meant for Those who have indepth knowledge....
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so whee to start the fst thing ??
Try this out:
http://www.appinventor.mit.edu/
A few simple tutorials should never steer you wrong.
Try a few!
I recommend going to Lynda[dot]com, you may find there all you need to learn about android and anything related to it
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