Ok so I'm kind worried about my phone's internal memory . Is there any way to force all app's to SD card . Some apps can't be transfered to sd through conventional apps or settings>Apps .
Thx and I'm very sorry for a 2nd thread openend in such a small ammount of time
Cheers.
Zerobarat1 said:
Ok so I'm kind worried about my phone's internal memory . Is there any way to force all app's to SD card . Some apps can't be transfered to sd through conventional apps or settings>Apps .
Thx and I'm very sorry for a 2nd thread openend in such a small ammount of time
Cheers.
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A2SD is solution. Search on forum first...for next time...
[Script][A2SD] Darktremor Apps2SD 2.7.5.3 Beta 04 (01/29/2011)
[Q] Apps2SD on a custom ROM
Hmmm interesting, but seems way too much of a hassle . Primarily I just wanted to move Yahoo messenger which occupies quite a lot of space and maybe Chess elite which again is rooted ( literally speaking ) into the internal memory . This makes me sucha a sad panda
For that I just use move2sd enabler or apps2sd froyo. They're in the market
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For that I just use move2sd enabler or apps2sd froyo. They're in the market
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It will not force move apps like Yahoo mess , or chess elite unfortunately . Seems like I'm stuck with a pretty limited phone memory
If you like having everything on the SD card, you can use ROMs that come with dalvik2sd and darktremor apps2sd That is, if you like that. I personally don't prefer those though. As long as I have more than 50MB of free internal space, there's nothing to worry about.
I have lots of apps installed on my optimus one.
Some on SD and some on phone.
If I go for this mod, do I have to install all the apps on the SD card again as those would be deleted?
No idea. I tried flashing Light ROM(i added darktremor for my personal use and testing) without wiping anything, and darktremor apps2sd doesn't seem to work. To me, this looks like wiping everything then flashing. In short, complete reinstallation.
I'm not sure though. Maybe I just haven't given it enough time.
Try move2sd enabler.
Try links2sd from Gt540 forums. As far as I know it need some work with some kernels. For sure works with Mik_os kernel (1.0) Backup all content of SD card before ext partitioning.
i have installed app2sd in market free but there are some app only install in phone memory, how to move them into sdcard
you can try via adb:
adb shell pm setInstallLocation 2
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Try links2sd from Gt540 forums. As far as I know it need some work with some kernels. For sure works with Mik_os kernel (1.0) Backup all content of SD card before ext partitioning.
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You can try that too. It won't be picky since it will create symbolic links from /data/app to your SDcard's ext partition. I yet have to try this, but this method seems to be easy, plus there's a GUI (app) for it.
I'm not sure if this works with the stock kernel, but flashing something else should be easy
apps2sd with stock rom
Anyone here tried installing darktremor's apps2sd?
I can't seem to get it to work. It just loops in the bootup animation.
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Goofy problem but every rom I have tried will not update tweetdeck properly in the background with the screen black, except for xtrsense. Even the original stock rom does not work properly at doing this. Has anyone else had the same problem? Is there a fix?
I would love to be able to go to one of the 2.2 or 2.3 roms but i need tweetdeck to update properly on my accounts.
Side question - will there be a 2.2 or 2.3 for xtrsense?
Side question 2 - I am going to be searching for this but figured i would throw it in just incase I can not figure it out. I loaded the gscript for the apps2sd but I cant get any apps to the sd card. It is not even an option when I go to the manage apps. Like I said, I am going to search for this one but while I was typing I figured I would throw it in.
Tweetdeck is one of my key apps and I have no trouble at all with it on CELB Froyo or GSB. The only ROM I had an issue with was a later version of Nonsensikal. For some reason, that had an Autokiller-like aggressive memory setting and Tweetdeck would not stay open in the background.
Unlike many other twitter clients, Tweetdeck has no way to autostart and seems to have no server component to get updates, and aggressive memory settings will close the app when it is in the background. If you are using autokiller or something like it, using the optimum preset seems to work pretty well. Just vanilla GSB settings are just fine.
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Side question - will there be a 2.2 or 2.3 for xtrsense?
Side question 2 - I am going to be searching for this but figured i would throw it in just incase I can not figure it out. I loaded the gscript for the apps2sd but I cant get any apps to the sd card. It is not even an option when I go to the manage apps. Like I said, I am going to search for this one but while I was typing I figured I would throw it in.
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Gscript for Apps2SD? I never heard of a GScript for that capability. There's an Apps2SD flashable zip which adds the Apps2SD script to your phone, if that's what you're talking about, but you don't use it in GScript.
Technically and completely literally, there never can be a 2.2 or 2.3 version of xtrSENSE because xtrSENSE is (currently) based on the July OTA 2.1, so it's a heavily modified version of THE official ROM for the Eris. There is no official 2.2 or 2.3 for the Eris, so there's no 2.2 or 2.3 stock ROM with Sense to base a new Eris ROM on.
Devs have worked on 2.2 and 2.3-based Sense ROMs based on stuff from other phones, but none of them are as stable and "finished" as the original stock ROM, or even xtrSENSE. Things don't work such as Wifi and Camera, and possibly some other difficulties. They haven't given up but they've been beating their heads against the wall for months for Froyo Sense. At this point, there's probably a marginally better chance that we'll ever have a port of a Gingerbread Sense which has everything working, over Froyo Sense.
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Tweetdeck is one of my key apps and I have no trouble at all with it on CELB Froyo or GSB. The only ROM I had an issue with was a later version of Nonsensikal. For some reason, that had an Autokiller-like aggressive memory setting and Tweetdeck would not stay open in the background.
Unlike many other twitter clients, Tweetdeck has no way to autostart and seems to have no server component to get updates, and aggressive memory settings will close the app when it is in the background. If you are using autokiller or something like it, using the optimum preset seems to work pretty well. Just vanilla GSB settings are just fine.
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I use advanced app killer but i do not let that run all the time, I just start it when I want to manually kill apps.
It is just so weird with tweetdeck not updating in the background right, except on xtrsense. I just dont get it
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Gscript for Apps2SD? I never heard of a GScript for that capability. There's an Apps2SD flashable zip which adds the Apps2SD script to your phone, if that's what you're talking about, but you don't use it in GScript.
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Yes, he has a gscript script built in to xtrsense that you can just load and run to do it.
I will have to redo my sdcard again and see if that fixes it. I still like how 2.3 lets you move the apps though. It is a WHOLE lot easier.
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Side question 2 - I am going to be searching for this but figured i would throw it in just incase I can not figure it out. I loaded the gscript for the apps2sd but I cant get any apps to the sd card. It is not even an option when I go to the manage apps. Like I said, I am going to search for this one but while I was typing I figured I would throw it in.
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That's not how it works with xtrSENSE. With xtrSENSE, you first need to partition your SD card to add an ext3 partition to store your apps. Then, as you noted, you run a gscript to activate apps2sd. This will move *all* of your user apps to the ext partition - you cannot choose to keep some internal. You either have your apps internal and not on SD, or you have your apps on SD and not internal.
The original post in the xtrSENSE thread explains this pretty well. The relevant portions are here:
Apps2sd and Cache2sd:
I have revamped my implementation of apps2sd to use simpler and better organized scripts. For apps2sd to work you must first complete the listed prerequisites and it is a good idea to read through the "things you may want to know about apps2sd" section. Although it can provide gobs of space for apps, Apps2sd is not for everyone as it ties the stability of your phone to your SD card... If you do not need the space I would recommend that you keep the default of DISABLED; if you want to try you can always disable it again however there is always the chance of issues.
To enable/disable apps2sd and cache2sd just run the appropriate GScript and reboot your phone (Quick Boot makes this easy!).
Prerequisites
If you have not setup your SD card (for those new to Apps2sd) as per tkirton:
BACKUP YOUR SD CARD TO YOUR COMPUTER. Can't stress this enough, as partitioning will wipe the entire card.
Reboot into recovery
In Android System Recovery, select Partition sdcard
In the Partition sdcard menu, select Partition SD
Follow the instructions on the phone to partition your SD card. Most folks seem to recommend using the default values however you can go larger or smaller use values 256, 512,768,1024. You will also be asked to set a swap size; I stayed at 32mb (anticipate future ROM options to allow moving swap to sd)
Once the partition is initially created you must then convert to ext3 - In the Partition sdcard menu, select SD:ext2 to ext3. Follow the instructions on the screen.
Press the back button on the phone to go back to the main menu.
Your SD card is now ready to work with an Apps2sd supported ROM.
Things you may want to know about apps2sd
Bootloop protection is built in if your SD card is corrupted or is removed from the phone with Apps2sd enabled. Your apps will go away but your phone will boot .
There are 3 subsets of data associated to an app when it is installed and run on your phone.
1) /data/app/ (and /data/app-private) - actual .apk files we think of as the applications that are not system apps (i.e. installed on /system/app)
2) /data/data/ - the files produced by ALL apps (system apps and market apps) during installation that are used by the Android system to run the app
3)/data/dalvik-cache/ - app cache file and work space for ALL apps (system apps and market apps).
From root explorer (or similar) you can browse to the /data/app OR the /system/sd/app folders and you will see the same thing, both will tell you how much space you have used and have left. The way apps2sd works is by "linking" the /system/sd/app to the /data/app folder so that the Android system thinks it is accessing the /data/app it is really at /system/sd/app.
I have seen using Apps2sd cause issues with some.zip flash updates as they try to write directly to the /data/app folder which no longer "physically" exists
If you get into a bootloop issue using apps2sd boot into amon_ra recovery and try one of the follow:
1) from the Other menu option select the Fix apk uid mismatches
2) from the Wipe menu option complete a)Wipe data/factory reset b)Wipe Dalvik-cache c)Wipe SD:ext partition
Apps2sd and Cache2sd Basics
When you run the apps2sd or cache2sd script, upon reboot, it will move ALL your existing apps or cache to the sd card ext partition and ALL future apps and cache will be installed and stored on the sd card ext partition.
Running the apps2internal or cache2internal script, upon reboot, it will move ALL your existing apps or cache to the /data block of internal storage and ALL futures apps and cache will be stored in internal storage.
With HTC based ROMs it is all or nothing and you cannot move individual apps like in the CyanogenMod ROMs.
So how do I know Apps2sd is on? - You can run the GScript report_system_stats which will give you a printout of what fileblocks are used as well as a “true/false” value for Apps2sd On. You can also go to menu>Settings>Sd card and phone storage - when on space available under Available storage will go down at a VERY slow rate when new apps are installed.
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KnightRid said:
I use advanced app killer but i do not let that run all the time, I just start it when I want to manually kill apps.
It is just so weird with tweetdeck not updating in the background right, except on xtrsense. I just dont get it
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It works fine for me on xtrSENSE. Try uninstalling advanced app killer for a while and see if tweetdeck works better. Also, run the gscript set_memory_balanced or set_memory_stock. I have had Tweetdeck work just fine in xtrSENSE4.6.5 with both of those settings.
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That's not how it works with xtrSENSE. With xtrSENSE, you first need to partition your SD card to add an ext3 partition to store your apps. Then, as you noted, you run a gscript to activate apps2sd. This will move *all* of your user apps to the ext partition - you cannot choose to keep some internal. You either have your apps internal and not on SD, or you have your apps on SD and not internal.
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I did not explain well, I did do that but the apps still would not move over. I thought i had to manually move the apps after the ext3 partition and such but there must be something little I am missing. I will go back through the steps again and see what happens. I still like how 2.2 and 2.3 move the apps a lot better and I wish xtrsense would be based on 2.2 or 2.3
As for tweetdeck, it DOES work right in xtrsense just not in any other rom even the stock rom.
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I did not explain well, I did do that but the apps still would not move over. I thought i had to manually move the apps after the ext3 partition and such but there must be something little I am missing.
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When you run that gscript that I highlighted above (report_system_stats), does it say that you have apps2sd enabled? If it does, then you do. After you partition your card and run the gscript to enable apps2sd (called apps2sd), there is nothing that you need to do manually - the apps will move to SD. All new apps that you install will go to SD. You cannot pick and choose - apps are either on SD or internal.
I will go back through the steps again and see what happens. I still like how 2.2 and 2.3 move the apps a lot better and I wish xtrsense would be based on 2.2 or 2.3
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To be honest, I think that this method is better. For one thing, you can back up your ext partition on your SD card; unless you use Clockwork, you cannot backup .android_secure. Also, when you connect your SD card to your computer, it dismounts the SD card from the phone, making those apps unavailable until you re-mount the SD card to the phone. Because you cannot dismount the ext3 partition (without trying really hard, that is), your apps are always available. Widgets can run from those apps. Lastly, there is no this app is internal, that app is on SD - they are either all on SD or they are not. Plus, of course, you don't have to move apps one at a time.
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When you run that gscript that I highlighted above (report_system_stats), does it say that you have apps2sd enabled? If it does, then you do. After you partition your card and run the gscript to enable apps2sd (called apps2sd), there is nothing that you need to do manually - the apps will move to SD. All new apps that you install will go to SD. You cannot pick and choose - apps are either on SD or internal.
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Yea, it just doesnt move anything for some reason - Really isnt that big of a deal just would be nice with me being a packrat for everything so I wouldnt have to uninstall as often lol
Thanx for the help!
I am still wishing and hoping for xtrsense based on 2.2 or 2.3 though =)
doogald said:
That's not how it works with xtrSENSE. With xtrSENSE, you first need to partition your SD card to add an ext3 partition to store your apps. Then, as you noted, you run a gscript to activate apps2sd. This will move *all* of your user apps to the ext partition - you cannot choose to keep some internal. You either have your apps internal and not on SD, or you have your apps on SD and not internal.
The original post in the xtrSENSE thread explains this pretty well. The relevant portions are here:
Note the parts that I bolded.
It works fine for me on xtrSENSE. Try uninstalling advanced app killer for a while and see if tweetdeck works better. Also, run the gscript set_memory_balanced or set_memory_stock. I have had Tweetdeck work just fine in xtrSENSE4.6.5 with both of those settings.
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There's an app called Link2SD which allows you to use old-school Apps2SD with the ability to only move what you want to move. Haven't tried it but reports are positive about it. Creates symlinks or some such for individual apps instead of for the whole data/app folder at once.
doogald said:
When you run that gscript that I highlighted above (report_system_stats), does it say that you have apps2sd enabled? If it does, then you do. After you partition your card and run the gscript to enable apps2sd (called apps2sd), there is nothing that you need to do manually - the apps will move to SD. All new apps that you install will go to SD. You cannot pick and choose - apps are either on SD or internal.
To be honest, I think that this method is better. For one thing, you can back up your ext partition on your SD card; unless you use Clockwork, you cannot backup .android_secure. Also, when you connect your SD card to your computer, it dismounts the SD card from the phone, making those apps unavailable until you re-mount the SD card to the phone. Because you cannot dismount the ext3 partition (without trying really hard, that is), your apps are always available. Widgets can run from those apps. Lastly, there is no this app is internal, that app is on SD - they are either all on SD or they are not. Plus, of course, you don't have to move apps one at a time.
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There's a couple of apps on the market, Dual Mount SD (used to be called SD Share, I think) and Multi Mount SD, which now, not only allow you to mount your SD card to both your computer and your phone at the same time, they also both have the option to auto-mount your SD card to your computer when you plug it in to the USB cable, which is now what I do. Multi Mount SD had that feature first, Dual Mount SD copied it just recently.
Also, Titanium Backup (paid, don't know about the free version) will allow you to batch move as many apps as you like to and from the SD card.
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There's a couple of apps on the market, Dual Mount SD (used to be called SD Share, I think) and Multi Mount SD, which now, not only allow you to mount your SD card to both your computer and your phone at the same time, they also both have the option to auto-mount your SD card to your computer when you plug it in to the USB cable, which is now what I do. Multi Mount SD had that feature first, Dual Mount SD copied it just recently.
Also, Titanium Backup (paid, don't know about the free version) will allow you to batch move as many apps as you like to and from the SD card.
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Good to know, but I still like the "old school" apps2sd kludge more than the official kludge that Google added with Froyo. I've had more problems with apps2sd (when I tried it) with Froyo than I ever had with xtrROM before cache2cache was added to that ROM.
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Good to know, but I still like the "old school" apps2sd kludge more than the official kludge that Google added with Froyo. I've had more problems with apps2sd (when I tried it) with Froyo than I ever had with xtrROM before cache2cache was added to that ROM.
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The absolutely only thing I don't like about, now that Link2SD is out, is that it's difficult to use the old Apps2SD under Froyo and beyond, requiring special partitioning arrangements, concerning where the particular partitions are and making it difficult to mount all the Fat32 partitions to both the phone and the computer, unless there's been progress in those areas I haven't been made aware of.
Even though there's some things which won't move to the SD card in a friendly way with Froyo's move to SD, almost everything will move if you use an app such as Titanium Backup to move them. As I said, there's still some apps it won't move but it moves almost all of them for me. I guess I wouldn't like it if I was stuck with Google implementation of it, but as long as there are third party apps to make up what it's lacking, it works great for me.
I also like that since I "only" have an 8GB SD card, that I don't have to partition it, the apps that are moved to SD will only take up as much space as they need to, no partition with space that'll never get used because I want it at least large enough to cover my worst case scenarios.
Off topic, it's unbelievable how much "crap" I get on my SD card, from all the apps I've stopped using but never deleted any respective folders for from the card. Mostly because I replaced the app with something better.
Hi,
I am new here and did my best searching but couldn;t find a conclusive answer so i just need some suggestions about a way forward.
So far using Froyo's move to SD implementation I have managed to gain some space on the phone for more apps but i am still running out. I also have to use the slow Apps 2 SD application.
So my problem is I want more space for apps. Using adb, setting the install location to SD card helps provide some more but i have hit that limit too.
So, from what i've read so far, there is another symbolic link based method, that creates a partition on the SD card and then the phone appears to think its still on the phone.
I have a stock ROM and would prefer not having a custom ROM for now. What would be the suggested way of getting Apps2sdext functionality? I mean like installing a package after rooting.
I have read about rooting, and apps2sdext also seems to need root. But i'd really appreciate if somebody could drop some links as to what I could do. Here are my thoughts of what they might be:
Root phone
Format SD card with partitions
Install a2sd
Another question: is there no way of using Gparted, etc to resize partitions and create the ext4 partition on pc? As in before taking it to the phone? that way no need to reinstall some apps.
Ok so for now I see I can use Z4Root to root my phone. So i've sorted that part out.
I also saw on DarkTremor apps2sd page that stock roms need a custom init.rc. Where are the instructions for that?
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Another question: is there no way of using Gparted, etc to resize partitions and create the ext4 partition on pc? As in before taking it to the phone? that way no need to reinstall some apps.
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I'm not quite sure. I'm not an A2SD user. But, here are my hunches/ideas/opinions:
I suggest you partition with the partitioner in the recovery image. A2SD may have trouble finding the ext partition when the layout is quite different from what it expects, though I'm not quite sure.
As for not having to reinstall apps, this is what I did prior to installing A2SD:
Move all apps to phone memory
Backup
Partition SD
Flash A2SD
Install A2SD (yes, I had to manually launch a2sd scripts --')
Done
Works as intended, but I've found that there wasn't a significant increase in free phone memory storage, but I'm very sure a2sd was applied.
So I went back to native A2SD.
Which leads me to say: I suggest flashing a custom ROM with A2SD integrated
Idk, maybe I just didn't give A2SD some time. Just try it out.
Hmmm interesting! Still digging up more info as i go along...
Ok so far I installed, z4root and it installs fine and does the whole root and restart thing.
Now when i browse from adb shell i still get the $ prompt and not the # prompt. But when i go into z4root it provides options for re-root and un-root...
UPDATE: well i found out that once the shell opens as $, you type su. When you do that look at your phone and accept the superuser request, otherwise permission denied appears on the pc screen. now i have the # prompt!!!
UPDATE: Got Clockworkmod running now! and exploring a2sd... i give up. cannot find a concise thing that says here's the script that you use after doing the clockworkmod. what do i do???
Hi,I came from megatron rom and is using CM7 rom now.Not sure partitioning of sd card work on stock rom but you can try.
Disclaimer: I'm not responsible for anything that happens to your phone! Below is what I did.
Instructions: Download DarkTremor Apps2sd.zip file.
Then,Backup all your sd card contents on your PC.You MUST backup as partitioning of sd card will wipe the whole sd card.
Reboot in recovery and select partition sd card > Partition sd card again> Swap Size:Choose 0 (I'm not sure what the other numbers will do.) > Then 512mb for the next option.Then it will start partitioning. > After you're done,upgrade ext.2 to ext.3 > Then upgrade ext.3 to ext.4 > After that,connect usb or take out sd card and put DarkTremor apps2sd.zip file in the root of your sd card and then flash it!
DONE AND PROFIT!
Your internal storage should decrease very slowly because your apps are now 'tricked' into being installed on your sd card Hope this helps!
Sorted my problem out!!
Gonna post details asap! So excited
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Sorted my problem out!!
Gonna post details asap! So excited
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So you did my method or what?
Nope actually not. Found a simpler method that's easier for noobs.
So here goes in very short since I don't have links
1. Split memory card into two partitions. I used 1GB. I did the partitioning on Ubuntu as it was much easier to just resize the partition using gparted. I am not sure what file systems are supported for the apps but i used ext3 for the 1GB. Backup should not be necessary but you are welcome to be careful
2. Root phone with z4root, very straightforward process
3. Install Link2SD from Android Market.
4. Once its installed, it'll prob ask for root permissions. Grant them.
5. Open Link2SD and in the list, one by one for each app you'd like to move, select and it opens a page with some details. Just click on create link, and in the next page an option for moving cache also shows. Select that too. Then the app gets moved in the background and slowly your space starts increasing.
6. I did not move any preinstalled apps that came with the phone. Just moving the apps I installed gave me plenty of space not to worry with App 2 SD (froyo method) or anything. Also with this method, mounting for USB Mass Storage also gets quicker.
What's there not to line?
Always do a nandroid backup! I didn't as i didn't think much of an app.. my phone went into continued android logo loop. After several tries of battery pull,I managed to get into the phone but many of my apps went missing.. sighz...
Running Stock rom
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yanuk said:
Always do a nandroid backup! I didn't as i didn't think much of an app.. my phone went into continued android logo loop. After several tries of battery pull,I managed to get into the phone but many of my apps went missing.. sighz...
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You mean the backup option that is there in clockwork mod recovery menu right? I screwed up the files once and the backup came in real handy!
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It may not help you but I was using megatron rom froyo 2.2 and had barley any memory space on my phone and since I flashed CM7 rom from milk I have tons of space I have twice as many as many apps and stol 100 megabits left
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Just curious, on a scale of 10 how hard is it to get cm7 onto your optimistic? And any clue whether existing settings are lost? Any other benefits? And features missing? It would be nice if we either got more battery life or better performance if not both
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I use a stock ROM (2.2.1) and I have rooted and installed "Move2SD Enabler" from the market and moved all the apps to SD (except for widgets) in the plain simple old fashion. I currently have over 150 apps installed with about 90MBytes of internal memory free.
Hi,
I had HTC Desire before Android Froyo has been released and those days was said need to some hacks (think after root?) to move apps from internal memory to SD card. Also was said Google will add this feature to later Android versions natively.
I've searched on the forum and found some topics but still have below questions:
from which android version does it support App2SD exactly? Is there any improvement for native App2SD in later versions? (i.e gingerbread toward froyo)
Does this feature remain in all other Android versions that come later?
According to this post there are 3 kind of App2SD: Froyo A2SD, Legacy A2SD, Legacy A2SD+ ; while that post was for September 2010 is there any change in this manifest? which one is better?
I read costume ROMs need to be compatible with App2SD so we can enable it on them. Is it enough that a ROM has App2SD compatibility/feature or we need do some works and/or install apps to use App2SD on the phone?
I saw different apps and tricks to move apps like these:
Moving ANY app to SD on FroYo (or how to Enable all grayed out 'Move to SD' buttons)
[APP][Froyo][root] Move2SD Enabler - ex SetInstallLocation
[App] Link2SD
What's the comprehensive App2SD app yet? Should we install an app for this purpose ever?
As 'bakpinar' said in this post:
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Instead of moving all applications to SD card with app2sd, I want to move only selected applications.
Because I don't want to move my launcher, soft keyboard and dialer application to SD and make them unavaliable on boot if my SD card has problem or not inserted.
In order to resolve this I developed an application called Link2SD.
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It's not wise to move launcher, soft keyboard and dialer application to SD and make them unavaliable on boot if my SD card has problem or not inserted.
Now what if I am going to move all apps except these 3 mother app and don't want to select all new apps and current apps to move on SD card? any solution here?
Finally I have rooted HTC Desire HD with Android Revolution HD ROM.
Special Thanks for taking time to read this post.
Regards...
Any answer will be so appreciated and helpful
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1. The official way to move applications to SD, as provided my the standard Android sources is part of Android 2.2 (Froyo)... I'm not sure if any modifications have been made afterwards.
2. You can now also move /data/data to SD with DarkTremor... that's about the only thing that has changed AFAIK. Better is a relative term. DarkTremor (which is the new name for the "hackish" A2SD method, to avoid confusion with Android's own support) moves more data, but it requires a special partition and is generally a LOT more fragile. However it does move more data to the SD card, leaving more internal memory available. I've tried DarkTremor and was not satisfied with the stability, but different people may come up with different results here.
3. You need a script like DarkTremor to actually do the dirty work. Prepared only means that the ROM will mount the partition, but nothing more.
4. a)/b) this still uses the native Froyo method, it just overrides the do-not-move flag. It is VERY stable.
4. c) this is a special flavor of the DarkTremor method that instead moves individual applications, but otherwise comes with the same (dis)advantages.
5. You'd still use "4. c)"... that's just a slight UI difference. The difference is that standard DarkTremor makes it impossible to let anything remain in internal memory.
Thanks soooo mauch.
I'd wish I could press thank button more than 1 time
So the most comprehensive method is DarkTremor still now? But to make some mother apps available even when there isn't SD card too, we should use Link2sd app. Did I get it true?
No problem.
Basically yes... but I've never tried Link2sd, so I can't comment on how well the application itself works...
Thanks again.
hello, noobs here! i just want to ask how can i set up app2sd on my galaxy ace. im using jusada's ICS right now, and i heard that rom support darktremor A2SD enabled, so my assumption is, i just partitioning my SD card, so the rest will working by itself.
now i have partitioned my SDCARD, but when i restart my phone, it didnt happend and still the same, even my sdcard memory decrease.
so my question is:
how to set it correctly?
thanks! (and sorry for my bad english )
Why don't you use s2e
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scoffyburito said:
Why don't you use s2e
AOKP 4 LYF
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just make sure that my rom is doing right without app2sd apk
Look into my signature for the link pointing to SuperAce609's tutorial. I implemented that trick of S2E in ICsunday by Jusada and it really worked. I had more than 125 apps installed with more than 110MB free space.
Rushyang said:
Look into my signature for the link pointing to SuperAce609's tutorial. I implemented that trick of S2E in ICsunday by Jusada and it really worked. I had more than 125 apps installed with more than 110MB free space.
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thanks but i think i found something on manage application menu. go to Settings > applications > manage applications, then tap the SD Card menu, just choose the application you want to move to memory card.
whats the diferent between this and s2e?
kindroid said:
thanks but i think i found something on manage application menu. go to Settings > applications > manage applications, then tap the SD Card menu, just choose the application you want to move to memory card.
whats the diferent between this and s2e?
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The big difference between what you're doing and what I'm doing is..
1) Your trick is totally manual. Means, you will have to move each application one by one to the SDCard & also from what you're moving apps to sdcard, will leave "some" data (esp dalvik cache) of that app in actual device memory. So you won't have the full advantage of moving an app. You will have some saturation point at some time.. like even if all of your apps were moved to SDcard and you have about ~60 apps installed, but each app will leave some data to your device memory. & That's why at some point your device memory will get full.
While in mine (using S2E), I have created a partition which totally works like a built-in memory. Whatever I install, ALL gets automatically installed in that partition. which actually saves a lot more actual device memory.
2) You can not move Widget supporting app to the SDCard. It won't work.
While in mine, Everything in that 1GB partition can work even as a Widgets too. Which again means totally functioning as a device memory.
3) I also observed that, when I connect my SGA with computer through USB Mass Storage (Which actually gives more transfer speeds than adb push commands), all my apps which saved in 1GB partition stay active completely. So it takes a lot less time while scanning SDCard for media after removing from USB mass storage.
Rushyang said:
The big difference between what you're doing and what I'm doing is..
1) Your trick is totally manual. Means, you will have to move each application one by one to the SDCard & also from what you're moving apps to sdcard, will leave "some" data (esp dalvik cache) of that app in actual device memory. So you won't have the full advantage of moving an app. You will have some saturation point at some time.. like even if all of your apps were moved to SDcard and you have about ~60 apps installed, but each app will leave some data to your device memory. & That's why at some point your device memory will get full.
While in mine (using S2E), I have created a partition which totally works like a built-in memory. Whatever I install, ALL gets automatically installed in that partition. which actually saves a lot more actual device memory.
2) You can not move Widget supporting app to the SDCard. It won't work.
While in mine, Everything in that 1GB partition can work even as a Widgets too. Which again means totally functioning as a device memory.
3) I also observed that, when I connect my SGA with computer through USB Mass Storage (Which actually gives more transfer speeds than adb push commands), all my apps which saved in 1GB partition stay active completely. So it takes a lot less time while scanning SDCard for media after removing from USB mass storage.
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nice info! now i'm using S2E too, but still did'nt understand because my internal memory phone keep reduced.
also i want to ask, what would happen if i mount the SDCARD? and can i fully backup my apps via titanium backup with this?
why dont try this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18561098
using this i got 1gb internal memory, while booting is not as long when using darktremore a2sd or s2e
kindroid said:
hello, noobs here! i just want to ask how can i set up app2sd on my galaxy ace. im using jusada's ICS right now, and i heard that rom support darktremor A2SD enabled, so my assumption is, i just partitioning my SD card, so the rest will working by itself.
now i have partitioned my SDCARD, but when i restart my phone, it didnt happend and still the same, even my sdcard memory decrease.
so my question is:
how to set it correctly?
thanks! (and sorry for my bad english )
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Why don't you just try making your life easier and check out the thread in my signature?
an0nym0us_ said:
why dont try this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18561098
using this i got 1gb internal memory, while booting is not as long when using darktremore a2sd or s2e
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ok ill try for it
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Why don't you just try making your life easier and check out the thread in my signature?
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right now i'm using S2E, but my question is, what would happen if i mount the SDCARD? and can i fully backup my apps via titanium backup with this?
and then i still did'nt understand because my internal memory phone keep reduced.
Well, i tested this for some roms and its the same on all of them:
if i move apps that are app2sd-capable by native to sd (via settings -> apps), they work fine, they are still there after reboot.
but if i move apps (app2sd-capable by native or not) via link2sd (yes, moving via link2sd, NOT LINKING!!) or titanium backup, they are all there and working, but after doing a reboot
they're gone.
anyone else experiencing this? what can i do to resolve that? :silly:
realCyphox said:
Well, i tested this for some roms and its the same on all of them:
if i move apps that are app2sd-capable by native to sd (via settings -> apps), they work fine, they are still there after reboot.
but if i move apps (app2sd-capable by native or not) via link2sd or titanium backup, they are all there and working, but after doing a reboot
they're gone.
anyone else experiencing this? what can i do to resolve that? :silly:
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Why are you using a2sd? This device has enough memory.
To answer your question: The a2sd scripts are meant for Android 2.3.3- or low-end devices. It's likely it won't work
enough memory? well, not for me
im talking about the "most normal" method of moving apps to sd, via settings -> apps -> move app to sd
this works.
but doing so via link2sd or titanium backup doesnt after performing a rebooot.
and im pretty sure i did so (via link2sd) on some other ics-driven devices i owned so im just wondering why it wont work on the dx?
realCyphox said:
enough memory? well, not for me
im talking about the "most normal" method of moving apps to sd, via settings -> apps -> move app to sd
this works.
but doing so via link2sd or titanium backup doesnt after performing a rebooot.
and im pretty sure i did so (via link2sd) on some other ics-driven devices i owned so im just wondering why it wont work on the dx?
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Are they really gone, or do they just not work?
realCyphox said:
enough memory? well, not for me
im talking about the "most normal" method of moving apps to sd, via settings -> apps -> move app to sd
this works.
but doing so via link2sd or titanium backup doesnt after performing a rebooot.
and im pretty sure i did so (via link2sd) on some other ics-driven devices i owned so im just wondering why it wont work on the dx?
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Well, I'm not sure what you are doing with your phone but I have 50+ apps on it, 10+ games and some of them really big (like Real Racing 2 and NFS MW), none of them moved on sd card and I have 400mb of free space.
MaartenXDA said:
Are they really gone, or do they just not work?
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they are gone from the app drawer and in settings -> apps they are greyed out and have this standard-android-symbol as icon.
when i check via titanium backup they are also not there, but titanium backup finds orphan data to delete, which are virtually useless remains from
those "former installed apps" if you wanna call them that
@nlooooo
its just about having the option do so. i had that on my previous phones and i would love to have that on the dx.
well, im thinking about using "normal" app2sd for apps that are movable natively and link2sd + sd-ext partition for apps that are not movable natively
i know its weird, but i like to keep my data partition as clean as possible
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they are gone from the app drawer and in settings -> apps they are greyed out and have this standard-android-symbol as icon.
when i check via titanium backup they are also not there, but titanium backup finds orphan data to delete, which are virtually useless remains from
those "former installed apps" if you wanna call them that
@nlooooo
its just about having the option do so. i had that on my previous phones and i would love to have that on the dx.
well, im thinking about using "normal" app2sd for apps that are movable natively and link2sd + sd-ext partition for apps that are not movable natively
i know its weird, but i like to keep my data partition as clean as possible
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You have to accept the fact that using link2sd and symlinking will slow down your phone.
I doesn't work because of /system write protection, so all sylinks made when phone is booted are deleted when phone is restarted, If you're able to make those symlinks in recovery it will work. You can try with script that disables write protection, but I'm still not sure why would you need any a2sd scrip.
While I had Desire I used a2sd scripts, but when I bought Incredible S I didn't have any need to use them anymore. The same is with DesX.
nlooooo said:
You have to accept the fact that using link2sd and symlinking will slow down your phone.
I doesn't work because of /system write protection, so all sylinks made when phone is booted are deleted when phone is restarted, If you're able to make those symlinks in recovery it will work. You can try with script that disables write protection, but I'm still not sure why would you need any a2sd scrip.
While I had Desire I used a2sd scripts, but when I bought Incredible S I didn't have any need to use them anymore. The same is with DesX.
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apps moving to sd-ext works fine when using the write protection patch, tested that before, worked fine till i screwed my rom up because of some other stuff.
my problem is moving apps to sd, not linking them to a second sd-partition. i mean, if i move apps to sd via titanium even the apps that are definitely movable by "oldschool" app2sd are gone. thats the weirdest part i dont get.
so moving apps to sd via link2sd or titanium has to work somewhat different than doing so via apps -> settings or any "standard" app2sd app available in the market, doesnt it?
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apps moving to sd-ext works fine when using the write protection patch, tested that before, worked fine till i screwed my rom up because of some other stuff.
my problem is moving apps to sd, not linking them to a second sd-partition. i mean, if i move apps to sd via titanium even the apps that are definitely movable by "oldschool" app2sd are gone. thats the weirdest part i dont get.
so moving apps to sd via link2sd or titanium has to work somewhat different than doing so via apps -> settings or any "standard" app2sd app available in the market, doesnt it?
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I've never used titanium for that, but link2sd is moving them to sd-ext, creating symlinks, that's why that's not working. Using native app2sd from OS moves only .apk files to .android_secure folder on fat32 partition of sd card.
nlooooo said:
I've never used titanium for that, but link2sd is moving them to sd-ext, creating symlinks, that's why that's not working. Using native app2sd from OS moves only .apk files to .android_secure folder on fat32 partition of sd card.
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no no, link2sd can move apps2sd OR/AND (if you have a second partition on your sdcard) can link them to sd-ext. it can do BOTH.
and as i said, LINKING apps works just fine when using the write-protection patch. but moving apps to "normal sd card partition" doesnt.
I have this problem before when using link2sd on my old phone.
Your second partition might be corrupt.
On which ext u created the second partition?
There are two you can choose, ext2 or ext3. If you created the second partition on ext3, when u open up the link2sd app choose ext3 at the first time, then all the apps u partitioned/linked on ext3will be visible again.
Ps. I don't think desire x need link2sd as 1gb is really a lot! Trust me u don't need it.
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again: i'm talking about moving (NOT LINKING) apps. link2sd can do that. and i have no second partition on my sdcard right now.
edited the first post and i hope noone will talk about linking apps anymore