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Hey everyone,
I've been using a WM device for 2 years, a good and old KJAM and now the X7500. As you may have seen in my previous post, I'm going to use the X7500 as a UMPC together with my KJAM. I don't plan to ditch the KJAM, as I'm going to keep using it as my PDA and phone. The main purposes of the X7500 would be browsing (WIFI or HSDPA), watching movies, gaming and maybe some document editing.
I have to say, that I got lost trying searching and reading posts around here, and there seem to be a lot of confusion about many things, so I'm gonna ask some questions that I couldn't find one straight updated answer for. I know that these questions have been asked a lot of times, but as I said, there wasn't any clear answer for them (hopefully there is now).
1. I need a good, fast and reliable WM6/WM6.1 ROM. I don't need many features, just simple and as fast as possible. What do u recommend? By the way, if I flash another ROM will it change my device ID? I have bought a program that is registered to that specific device, and by changing the ID that program won't work.
2. BT mouse. how good does it work with the Athena? Will it slow down the system? Will it work with any program (esp. browsers)? How about connecting a USB mouse through the 4-in-1 cable, would it work?
3. Browser. We have a great device, amazing screen but I feel that no browser is good enough for it. I don't want anything fancy, but I want it to be fast and support tabbed browsing. Opera mini is fast enough, but it lacks an option to browse with XX% zoom out permanently like Opera, Netfront or even IE. All of the above are pretty good by the way, but they are simply too slow. Actually, I don't get that. Why are they so slow browsing with WIFI or 3.5G? Opera mini does the job faster, my desktop with the same connection does it faster, what's causing their lag? I found out that browsing through my desktop with LOGMEIN from the X7500 is even faster (but annoying).
Any browser that will hit the spot? Any way to speed things up?
4. Task manager. I want a program that will give me the multi-tasking capability of a desktop PC without slowing down the device. basically I need instant access to all the open programs in the same way the taskbar works on Windows. If the program will give me the option to choose whether to minimize or close a window, it would be better.
5. Printer. Can I plug a USB printer, or can I use only network/BT printers with the device?
6. Any other tips of-course would me most welcomed.
I hope you had the patience to read all of those questions, and maybe even more patience to answer them. Thanks a lot to everyone around here....
best rom? athena project 3. cannot be beaten. ther's a rule on here where theres no posting of roms allowed except project kitchen. This rom is made by people working all day on it, and a new version is released like every 3 months. because thats how long it takes to make it perfect. Im fairly sure the new one is being released this week. but dont quote me on that.
You named all the browsers anyone would suggest, so I cant really recommend anything.
For taskbar id say use wisbar if you need loads of features and skinnable taskbar along with cascading start menu like real windows, or wktask for just sortof tabbed taskbar. wktask is embedded into the rom I mentioned.
hope this helps
Rory
rorydaredkign said:
best rom? athena project 3. cannot be beaten. ther's a rule on here where theres no posting of roms allowed except project kitchen. This rom is made by people working all day on it, and a new version is released like every 3 months. because thats how long it takes to make it perfect. Im fairly sure the new one is being released this week. but dont quote me on that.
You named all the browsers anyone would suggest, so I cant really recommend anything.
For taskbar id say use wisbar if you need loads of features and skinnable taskbar along with cascading start menu like real windows, or wktask for just sortof tabbed taskbar. wktask is embedded into the rom I mentioned.
hope this helps
Rory
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First of all, thanks a lot for your comment. I don't really understand what you mean by no ROM postings allowed around here. If I want a lighter ROM than Athena Project, and afraid to cook myself one, I'm out of luck? nobody can even publish their cooked versions of the AP ROMs?
There is no rule like that at all.
If you decide to cook a ROM, feel free to post it. The Athena Project do some great work, but they don't own these public forums.
i dont want to argue about it , but if that's the case, then why is there only one cooked rom avalable? plus check the sticky called proj ct kitchen to see where i got the impression that you cant.
Rory
kramerica2 said:
1. I need a good, fast and reliable WM6/WM6.1 ROM. I don't need many features, just simple and as fast as possible. What do u recommend? By the way, if I flash another ROM will it change my device ID? I have bought a program that is registered to that specific device, and by changing the ID that program won't work.
2. BT mouse. how good does it work with the Athena? Will it slow down the system? Will it work with any program (esp. browsers)? How about connecting a USB mouse through the 4-in-1 cable, would it work?
3. Browser. We have a great device, amazing screen but I feel that no browser is good enough for it. I don't want anything fancy, but I want it to be fast and support tabbed browsing. Opera mini is fast enough, but it lacks an option to browse with XX% zoom out permanently like Opera, Netfront or even IE. All of the above are pretty good by the way, but they are simply too slow. Actually, I don't get that. Why are they so slow browsing with WIFI or 3.5G? Opera mini does the job faster, my desktop with the same connection does it faster, what's causing their lag? I found out that browsing through my desktop with LOGMEIN from the X7500 is even faster (but annoying).
Any browser that will hit the spot? Any way to speed things up?
4. Task manager. I want a program that will give me the multi-tasking capability of a desktop PC without slowing down the device. basically I need instant access to all the open programs in the same way the taskbar works on Windows. If the program will give me the option to choose whether to minimize or close a window, it would be better.
5. Printer. Can I plug a USB printer, or can I use only network/BT printers with the device?
6. Any other tips of-course would me most welcomed.
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1) I will suggest PK3.0 as the fastest IMHO, we are waiting the new WM6.1 (4.0 release) The .NET re-designed will improve the speed as is happening in many other ROMs. We are waiting also the results of the Athena Team tuning: wait the WM6.1 may be in the next week.
I have increased the speed using MEMMAID, (www.dinarsoft.com) as mantainance and optimizzation tool. The rom's speed depends only from chef choices for the first start but later is related to many other things. Manteinance is the best way to keep it fast
1b) Device ID changed? may be not, we will see...
2) I use a wired optical mouse and it works just as is supposed to do
3) opera 9.5 is fast, the beta is out and it is finger friendly and fast . Netfront 3.5 is fast too, I chose Opera
4) wktask is part of PK rom, you can download it here http://soft.photoracer.net/docs/wktask_en.html and it does exactly what you need
5) Yes, BT or network, having jetcet print
ROM cooking is free and WELCOMED here!
rorydaredkign said:
i dont want to argue about it , but if that's the case, then why is there only one cooked rom avalable?
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There are a couple of others floating around if you search hard enough.
But the Athena Project roms are so good, everyone seems to use them.
fair enough mate. I have been reading the athena forums for abut 3 months, and never seen any other rom... theres so few posts daily, im sure I would have noticed
Rory
rorydaredkign said:
fair enough mate. I have been reading the athena forums for abut 3 months, and never seen any other rom... theres so few posts daily, im sure I would have noticed
Rory
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This is the 6.1 porting from Kaiser I think.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363542
I think a lot of the browser slowness is down to windows mobile itself. Not sure why. Even the Opera Mini Java midlet is faster on the Symbian OS than on Windows Mobile. Netfront and Opera 9.5 are big improvements on what was available last year though, and Opera will no doubt have a few tweaks before its official release. No Flash or Java add-ons though still
Apparently someone has already managed to play youtube with Opera. Not sure if it is true as he has not responded to request for the cab file yet.
edit: This gentleman gave an update. He had earlier managed to make it work by editing the axobjects.ini file to effect the following changes:
[Shockwave Flash]
CLSID={EB8B5B8E-EDB9-4180-9E2E-F8F1632DC171} #FlashLite RAC;/\\ (M
Alias={D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000} #Flash (desktop)
Description=Macromedia Flash Player 7.0 Y8jt_XD;Z
FileExtents=swf|spl|flv
MIMEType = application/x-shockwave-flash|application/futuresplash I_hAgk 04
FileOpenName=Adobe Flash movie (*.swf)|FutureSplash movie (*.spl)|Adobe Flash Paper (*.mfp)|Adobe Flash Paper (*.flv)
Allow=Url|Embed|Object|Scripts
He had posted some screen capture of his earlier success, but found that subsequently it stopped working mysteriously. Anyway, he also said that he is sure when FL3 (instead of Flash player 7) is avaialble this would work.
The trouble is, will adobe release a FL3 for winmo platform...
Edit:
The above works. Make sure you have installed flash player 7 and make the above edit to the ini file.
eaglesteve said:
Apparently someone has already managed to play youtube with Opera. Not sure if it is true as he has not responded to request for the cab file yet.
edit: This gentleman gave an update. He had earlier managed to make it work by editing the axobjects.ini file to effect the following changes:
[Shockwave Flash]
CLSID={EB8B5B8E-EDB9-4180-9E2E-F8F1632DC171} #FlashLite RAC;/\\ (M
Alias={D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000} #Flash (desktop)
Description=Macromedia Flash Player 7.0 Y8jt_XD;Z
FileExtents=swf|spl|flv
MIMEType = application/x-shockwave-flash|application/futuresplash I_hAgk 04
FileOpenName=Adobe Flash movie (*.swf)|FutureSplash movie (*.spl)|Adobe Flash Paper (*.mfp)|Adobe Flash Paper (*.flv)
Allow=Url|Embed|Object|Scripts
He had posted some screen capture of his earlier success, but found that subsequently it stopped working mysteriously. Anyway, he also said that he is sure when FL3 (instead of Flash player 7) is avaialble this would work.
The trouble is, will adobe release a FL3 for winmo platform...
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The above works. Make sure you have installed flash player 7 and make the above edit to the ini file.
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It's very jerky though. Still better off with the flash plugin. There's an application called EMTube on Symbian devices, would be nice to see it on winmo as it allows access to all the youtube Videos at high quality without loading up the browser at all. There's the Vtap application but that always seemed a bit stodgy to me.
On the subject of Fl3.0 you may have a long wait yet - it's still only been integrated into the N95 8gb, don't know what Adobe are playing at with the rollout for this - it was released as a developers' testing package over five months ago, at this rate someone's going to develop a workaround that screws them over: I HOPE AND PRAY!
That's why there was no excitement in my post.It's not really watchable.
I would still prefer to use PIE with TCPMP to download it first then watch it.
Hello,
I have been using the HTC WM6 ROM HERE and its been great. I wanted a basic ROM with no whistles and bows to get used to the device. Mine had the T-Mobile ROM on, nothing wrong with it but the phone dialer and theme are awful in my view. I tried both opera and net 3.5 and both show great promise, but they aren't ready yet. I ended up just getting one of the IE addon's that hanango do, fine for now. interesting to hear about the things you can use through the USB port. Ive been using the universal and stuff like that doesn't work on it. I think I need to go back and read up more!
Take care
Jay
So someone I know surprised me today by saying he's thinking of purchasing the Hero. See, the thing is that he's not the most tech savvy person in the world, and he admitted that he had hoped I would offer him help in using it and generally improve its usability.
Problem is that I'm a Windows Mobile guy. I really don't know anything more about Android than that it's Google's mobile OS. That's it.
So I was hoping some people here could answer the question I had of whether Android apps work across builds? For example, do the apps made for the HTC Dream work on the Hero?
As of currently, I know Google is making a hell of a lot of builds (Original, Cupcake, Donut, Eclair, and so on), and they seem to be making it at a hyperpace. I also imagine that this might continue for quite a while, so this is an important question to me.
Thank you to all for reading!
Currently all Android phones run the same OS and alle apps works cross-phones. There has been some conflict with apps running on the Hero because of the Sense UI but this can be fixed by turning Sense of or use an application called Bar control wich allows for use of the original UI with ease.
You should tell your friend not to worry, Android is pretty easy and basic in general use.
Dont take my word for gospel but this is my perspective and my experience as a Hero user. I love it and your friend is gonna love it to.
R. Duke, thank you for your answer and reassurance.
I had not realize that all of the Android phones were currently using the same build (I thought the Dream was using the original Android build and Hero was using the newer Cupcake), so I'm glad to hear there will be complete app compatibility.
8525Smart said:
I had not realize that all of the Android phones were currently using the same build (I thought the Dream was using the original Android build and Hero was using the newer Cupcake), so I'm glad to hear there will be complete app compatibility.
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Most Dreams would have either received an OTA update to 1.5 (Cupcake) or its owners have likely rooted their devices and applied a custom rom, but again these are all likely to be based on Cupcake.
Regards,
Dave
R.Duke said:
Currently all Android phones run the same OS and alle apps works cross-phones. There has been some conflict with apps running on the Hero because of the Sense UI but this can be fixed by turning Sense of or use an application called Bar control wich allows for use of the original UI with ease.
You should tell your friend not to worry, Android is pretty easy and basic in general use.
Dont take my word for gospel but this is my perspective and my experience as a Hero user. I love it and your friend is gonna love it to.
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I'm planning on getting the Sprint HTC Hero in October. Do you know of any conflicts with the following applications:
Astrid
PDANet
Where
Evernote(Web version)
Documents To Go
Sprite Backup
My Backup Pro
Last.fm
GPhone Manager Pro
Astro File Manger
AndExplorer
TasKiller
ReedR News Reader
Flixster
I doubt that any one can tell you definitively as the phone is not out, and even then I doubt someone is going to download and test such a specific list of apps. However, I moved from a G1 to a Hero, and not found a single compatibility problem yet. When the firmware on the G1 went to Cupcake, some apps did break, but in general they were fixed by their devs very quickly.
Regards,
Dave
Well... there are actually some difference between the HTC Dream and all the other Android phones currently; the Dream have a physical keyboard. Imagine a game that uses the physical keyboard running on a phone with only the virtual keyboard (ScummVM to name one such app). How the hell are you supposed to use a function mapped to the "U" button without a keyboard?
The game Cestos for example have a chat function. The players can chat with each other during matches. Those with a Dream can easily chat while those witrh non-physical keyboards will have to press Menu and then press up the keyboard to start typing (it works but it isn't fluid).
Hey all, i noticed people were asking for a "exercise/fitness" app like ifitness.
this is html one i was developing so made it into a quick widget for you all to see.
its main design is to be a guide.
this is a beta look and feel, i'll start filling out the exercises soon.
iv given it a nice nike+ look as i love the orange !
is been developed for Wvga 480x800 first.
ideas/development..
it will be split into male and female
it will have things like..
Intake, Nutrition and Diet, Weight lifting, Strength Training,
Cardiovascular Exercises, Weight Loss, Aerobic, Motivation,
Preventing Injuries, Avoid cheating, Calculators.
iv put in as much as i can about water intake and Vitamins & Minerals.
im playing around with a BMI Calculator to fit in there too.
im trying a kcal Calculator soon.
im hoping someone brilliant could make a nice flashlite jog meter
also when i can get embed wmp to work or a nice flashlite player maybe we can have music too
im open to ideas and info or people who want to work on it too.. hope you all like !
There should be a way to use the accelerometer as a pedometer. And, a body fat % calculator would be nice.
maybe a cab, instead of a zip? :X
and a food log..
Hey, first of all, THANK YOU! For reals, thanks for taking the time to develop such an app. Now moving on to suggestions
I mostly do weight lifting and some jogging so my suggestions would be these:
- Include a catalogue of available weight lifting exercises (www.bodybuilding.com is an excellent resource)
- Add the ability to create a weight lifting schedule that works as following:
Design a schedule beforehand and fill in sets/reps/weight
This mode would have weight lifting days pre-set by the user (for example I have a chest-lifting day, in which I do bench press, incline bench press and a couple more. I'd like the ability for that to have been designed beforehand by me, and I'd insert the weight/set/reps on the spot during my workout)
Design a schedule on the fly
Start with an empty training day and add exercises/sets/reps/weight on the fly.
It goes without saying that each set should have its own reps and weight
Awesome work so far mate, keep it up!
PS. Haven't tested the app yet, will do so as soon as I can.
Thanks for developing this, love it already =d
Well I have been looking for something like this for a long time.
It would be nice to have the calories intake measured.
One way to do this would be for people for people to use the label of the article to help them input the right data:
If they weigh the food (cereals / chocolates / anything that has a label), and put the weight in grams (example, as I live in Europe), and the calories for 100g, the program could calculate how much calories they consumed.
It would then add them all up, and tell you how much calories you’ve consumed.
It could have some database of some food like fruits that do not come with a label of how much calories per gram they have.
If it could calculate too, how much calories you’ve burned during the training session, it could even tell you if you’ve consumed more calories then you’ve put in the body (witch is what you need to do in order to loose weight).
Regarding the training:
It would be nice to have some specific areas trained, so if you want to train your biceps, you could find 2-3 exercises to do it.
In training some muscles should be trained together (during the same training session), so it would be nice to have it do a training session A for day 1 and B for day 2.
Third request would be if it could have a timer, so that people know how much they are resting (between the series). If they need to rest 30 seconds it should not be 2 minutes.
I know this information is not new to many, but this would be the things I would look for in a program like this.
Good luck and let me know what you think about my suggestions.
i love the idea, if you want me to help out with anything to do with graphics, please ask. i am a photoshop nut, and i could help make the screens look even prettier also if you need, i could help resize things for other resolutions ex: qvga or vga. again great idea =]
edit: as for the player for music i dug this up on another site...
"From Wikipedia "The Advanced Stream Redirector (ASX) format is a type of XML metafile designed to store a list of Windows Media files to play during a multimedia presentation."
Flash doesn't play any windows media native files. It only plays Flash video files (flv) and Mpeg4 (h.264 encoded) either as a .mp4 or .mov file. So to get that to play in Flash you'll need to figure out how to convert it to a file type that flash understands or look into something microsoft native like silverlight." - http://www.ozzu.com/flash-forum/playing-asx-files-flash-player-t103840.html
as for a m3u playlist it appears possible....
a commercial piece of software, proving the point http://www.draftlight.net/dnex/mp3player/
maybe useful if you use wmp: http://www.nunzioweb.com/streaming_audio-example.htm
and another link just in case http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?t=287996
hope i helped.
Withings wifi scale integration, like iPhone Wiscale...
www.withings.com
I'm trying it out. Looks very cool
Some links
If you need some workout / nutrition info here are some good sites. The first link has a list of all the different muscles and exercises that you can do to work them out along with an animated gif of the exercise in question. The second link is just a food database. Maybe these can help give you some ideas to incorporate into your program.
hxxp://exrx.net/Lists/Directory.html
hxxp://nutritiondata.self.com/
Nice work - I look forward to seeing some content
Thank You!
Some nice work here. A couple of suggestions that might ancrease it's appeal, and a question.
I installed the program and ran it. It then put a bunch of files into the Main Memory of my HD2 without asking permission. Naughty! Naughty! For various reasons I need every Mb of storage I can keep, so this was a problem. It resulted in memory management issues that drained my battery like crazy, so sadly, I had to un-install it
The program was not fully uninstalled via the phone, and there is no uninstaller in the package, so I 'm going to manually delete all the related files I can find. I suggest that you either provide an uninstaller program or a complete set of un-installation instructions.
And please! set the program to be installe din the Storage Card! I would really like to give it a serious workout!
Thanks again - and keep Developing!
MadSci
One neat idea would be food log integration.
As in built in foods with calories that you can search through, including fast foods and such.
Also camera/barcode integration, so you could just scan the barcode and it looks up the food and it's calories/nutrition info.
I know those are a big big reach, and probably not likely but they would help make your app complete.
Also if possible the calorie burned exercise should be weight specific, i.e a heavier person doing 2 miles would burn more than a light person doing 2 miles at the same pace.
Hi guys,
I would like to try this app but my Windows Mobile version is 6.1 due to the fact that is much quicker than 6.5 on my Smartphone (I have a Blackstone).
Could you please provide this app as a CAB installation file as WGT files aren't supported in this version of WinMo?
Thanks and regards,
Elvis
youngstats215 said:
There should be a way to use the accelerometer as a pedometer. And, a body fat % calculator would be nice.
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yes i believe so i have seen a nokia widget that uses g-sensor in html so should be possible. the bmi calc tells you % fat when you type in hight+weight.
josh_prayyforplagues said:
maybe a cab, instead of a zip? :X
and a food log..
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i may do it as cab for those who do not have widget engine.. this will be open with native browser. as for food log i cant do html that remembers things yet.
zeusalmighty said:
my suggestions would be these:
- Include a catalogue of available weight lifting exercises
- Add the ability to create a weight lifting schedule that works as following:
Design a schedule beforehand and fill in sets/reps/weight
Design a schedule on the fly
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-yes this is first been designed as a guide book for most exercises.
-i believe this would be bit much for html/java.. if can be made in flashlite id love to add it.
Johev said:
It would be nice to have the calories intake measured.
It would then add them all up, and tell you how much calories you’ve consumed.
It could have some database of some food like fruits that do not come with a label of how much calories per gram they have.
If it could calculate too, how much calories you’ve burned during the training session.
Regarding the training:
It would be nice to have some specific areas trained, so if you want to train your biceps, you could find 2-3 exercises to do it.
Third request would be if it could have a timer.
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-im adding kcal intake calc soon so you type them in and it calcs if you have eaten more or less than 2500kcal.
-database of foods without labels is good idea.
-not sure how i would work out calories burned.
-thats the idea lol
-hmm could put a small configurable timer in each exercise page
alexandera said:
Withings wifi scale integration, like iPhone Wiscale...
www.withings.com
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-too complicated.. bmi calc will tell you if you are over weight from ur hight+weight.
MadSci said:
I installed the program and ran it. It then put a bunch of files into the Main Memory.
The program was not fully uninstalled via the phone, and there is no uninstaller in the package.
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- .wgt files always install to main memory, .cab you chose.
- uninstall via settings uninstall programs.. should be in the list like mine.
yes i will try doing as cab file sometime.
well i like working out for the looks more than the weight gain, so if you can add some Calisthenics Exercises with like daily reminders and routines you have to follow. like make an alarm go off when its time to do your exercises..
but anyways add alot of Calisthenics Exercises, thanks........
Hi guys.
I'm still waiting for the CAB version.
Regards,
Elvis
Hi all, I've been using WM since ages.
The X10 mini pro is tempting me to commit hersy and buy and android phone
May you help me with some questions I have:
- Is a FULL file explorer preloaded ??
- Can I download/EDIT/save office docs ??
- Can I hot auto check my hotmail ??
- A win live mesenger is present ??
- Can I easily change the UI or is it "closed" ?? (sort of the xperia "panels")
THANKS in advance
gtrab said:
Hi all, I've been using WM since ages.
The X10 mini pro is tempting me to commit hersy and buy and android phone
May you help me with some questions I have:
- Is a FULL file explorer preloaded ??
- Can I download/EDIT/save office docs ??
- Can I hot auto check my hotmail ??
- A win live mesenger is present ??
- Can I easily change the UI or is it "closed" ?? (sort of the xperia "panels")
THANKS in advance
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Hey
1. there is no file manger installed but you can download one from marked
2. you can buy doc to go then you can edit doc
3. you with exchange
4. there is many good msn apps in marked
5. you can use any home's from marked like adw launcher
gtrab said:
Hi all, I've been using WM since ages.
The X10 mini pro is tempting me to commit hersy and buy and android phone
May you help me with some questions I have:
- Is a FULL file explorer preloaded ??
- Can I download/EDIT/save office docs ??
- Can I hot auto check my hotmail ??
- A win live mesenger is present ??
- Can I easily change the UI or is it "closed" ?? (sort of the xperia "panels")
THANKS in advance
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Following on from the previous answer
1) Not pre-installed, but you can easily download and install a free one directly from the Market (i.e from the phone itself) - ASTRO File Manager and ES File Explorer are two good ones, but there are plenty to choose from
2) Again, not pre-installed, but you can download a free app called "Documents to Go" that will let you read office docs. http://www.dataviz.com/ - You'll need to buy the full version (currently $15) to be able to edit docs too
3) Googling suggests that you can probably make it work using pop3 - I don't use hotmail, so I can't try it out
4) Nothing pre-installed, but there are lots on the market. I'm currently using Trillian which works nicely (free beta, will probably become a paid app)
5) Yes - there are lots of alternative launchers, so if you're not happy with the S.E. "4 corners" homescreen, you can easily switch for another one - most of these are free, too
So, it sounds like you might have to fork out some cash to be able to do everything you want
I use maildroid for all my email accounts including Hotmail. Just download it for free in market
Sent from my rooted X10 mini PRO using XDA App
THANKS for your replies.
Let me see if I get it right:
OK so Android looks like a different approach (more iPhone-esque than pocketPC-esque) but able to expand to more advanced capabilities with some investment
(and the market looks pretty ample)
One final Q:
Front camera for video call ??
(I could just check pdadb.net for that one, but sometimes having the phone in-hand brings on some surprises)
No video calling afaik, though I suppose some app could potentially do it via the front camera.
Although the launcher can be changed easily, the OS theming requires the phone to be rooted and a system file to be replaced to change, so you'll have a lot of blue until the phone is rooted.
There are thousands of apps on the market and also around on the web, some are junk, some are great (including a lot of free ones), you shouldn't have too much trouble finding software to fill whatever needs you have.
Android is a pretty fantastic phone OS, I don't think you'll be dissatisfied with it, the user experience is much the same across different phones, so really it's about getting it on hardware that can fill your needs.
front cam ??
so it DOES have a front camera
thanks for the info
good news !!
aPaullyG said:
No video calling afaik, though I suppose some app could potentially do it via the front camera.
Although the launcher can be changed easily, the OS theming requires the phone to be rooted and a system file to be replaced to change, so you'll have a lot of blue until the phone is rooted.
There are thousands of apps on the market and also around on the web, some are junk, some are great (including a lot of free ones), you shouldn't have too much trouble finding software to fill whatever needs you have.
Android is a pretty fantastic phone OS, I don't think you'll be dissatisfied with it, the user experience is much the same across different phones, so really it's about getting it on hardware that can fill your needs.
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gtrab said:
front cam ??
so it DOES have a front camera
thanks for the info
good news !!
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I have not seen a front camera on the mini pro, and the one i have has not a front camera
No front camera in mini pro
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Hey gtrab,
I was just like you, I always swore bt WM. And never wanted to try anything new. But while I was on a trip, my dash was bugging out on me and I needed a new phone. I went for the x10 mini pro cuz it was cheap.
Now my view has changed, android took a while to get used to from wm. Not a lot of things were intergrated like wm, I needed an app for every little thing. Just to get a comm manager thing going, I needed to download like 6 widgets for it. And there was no folders to organize the apps. Things weren't in abc order. But installing a new launcher solved it.
The thing about the x10 that is making me stick with android and ditching wm6.5 (maybe untill wm7 comes out) is there is no crashed. Android runs smooth and stable. I havent soft reset my phone in 2 months. Even tho a wm rom was stable it still has issues and I needed to soft reset it once a week just to get something to work again. Even my girl friend likes my phone, she always hated my wm phones cause it was hard to use, and it would always mess up on us when im talking to her over the phone. It would always go like, "the comm manager isnt loading, I need to reset the phone to turn on the bluetooh, ill call u back"
Because of this I think im going to stick with android now.
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Thanks for your words Ray_Jai
I am 100% sure to go Android as soon as possible, my only concern is "which" phone to choose
The X10 mini pro is an amazing little phone, the only thing stopping me from buying it is the screen res 'cause I do a lot of web navigation, and the older android version (Froyo has flash 10.1 web support)
The newest Desire Z and Moto droid 2 world edition are tempting me
Np,
The small screen is a killer for me too, but I do most of my web reading from RSS readers, so it's ok for me. I only use the phone for email and light web surfing, I rarely play games or watch movies on it. I tried to install some games, but many of the games weren't supported. so if you're into that, it might not be that good. but for everything else, it does a pretty good job.
Hi guys,
as the pen works really phenomenal on our Tablet and My S7+ is like made for drwaing, I wanted to ask which app you use for that?
The already installed Samsung apps are not what I'm really looking for.
On the Computer I use Paintshop Pro to paint and to work on Fotos.
Which one would be best to get the features from PaintShop Pro?
If it is freeware, I would be even more happy
I would recommend SketchBook 100%. Im using it myself and its full of features every artist needs.
SketchBook
Sketchbook was what I found so far.
Fits most of what I need. Just wanted to know if there is something even better.
I mostly want to work on existing Fotos and there are not so many filters and things for that.
I've tried most now and the best I've come across is infinite painter. It has a minimalistic ui but this is deceiving, spend some time with it and you'll find that it's very capable.
I've used Sketchbook for years. It's excellent, but they seem to have stopped updating it since it went 100%
I also use Infinite Painter, it has some really good brushes and the grids/guides are amazing. It's had a major update on iOS and the new features are headed to Android soon.
I've also tried out Clip Studio Pain at the TAB S7+ comes with a free trial. It is amazing, but I don't like the subscription pricing.
If you want to see my drawings, check out @sketchUK on instagram - I usually include the app name in the description, so you can see what I've used.
Infinite Painter FTW
It's as close to a Photoshop android app as I've been able to find.
You might want to check out Krita. It's an open source app designed for desktop, but ported to Android.
With this screen, it should work out well. My device isn't here yet, but the app is free.
ETA: YouTube video link:
Infinite Painter is Crapware - Spyware - Malware
Tried Infinite Painter after reading here. First of all I got alarm about two trackers. After starting message appears that the app does not run without play services.
So far so good.
Tried to uninstall the app to find out that it was not possible to uninstall.
I had to do a factory reset to get the app off my tablet.
The device is new and untouched, I should not have to use adb tool to actually get rid of this crapware.
Keep your fingers off this app
I seem to always find myself back using Medibang paint. it's for the most part free and easy to navigate and use also with a whole online community and database of online tools and downloads. Cloud saving. Frequent updates.
ericDraven77 said:
Hi guys,
as the pen works really phenomenal on our Tablet and My S7+ is like made for drwaing, I wanted to ask which app you use for that?
The already installed Samsung apps are not what I'm really looking for.
On the Computer I use Paintshop Pro to paint and to work on Fotos.
Which one would be best to get the features from PaintShop Pro?
If it is freeware, I would be even more happy
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Krita
Krita
Krita is a professional FREE and open source painting program. It is made by artists that want to see affordable art tools for everyone.
krita.org
..and to see just how capable it is, always go to the user manual; that's where the real story is told.
Welcome to the Krita 5.0 Manual!
docs.krita.org
Not sure about S-pen compatibility, though...
EDIT: I did a search of this thread for 'krita', saw no results, made this post, then saw that it was already mentioned by @undrwater
TiTiB said:
Not sure about S-pen compatibility, though
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From here:
The developers of the editing program have converted the full version of Desktop 4.29 to Android environment. This implies that the interface is not 100% suitable for touch control, but works great on tablets with a stylus, as is the case with the Samsung Galaxy Tab. We tested Krita on a Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 Lite and the feeling was very positive: the app not only allows editing of images and lines, it is also very well suited for use with the S Pen. It even detects different pressure levels for drawing.
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Krita is working really well with S Pen.
You can also deactivate touch input for any painting and then your palm will not "paint" while using the S Pen.
Also the pressure is really nicely configurable within Krita.
Can fully recommend this app, thanks for mentioning it here - as I didn't know it before
I'm also looking for a good drawing app right now. I want to try it and learn how to draw in the application. This will make my work easier and faster. For now, I only draw on paper and improve my skills. The drawing ideas on partnersinfire.com help me with this. However, I understand that now is the time that I need to learn to be friends with technology. There are many areas where all artists work in applications, and I understand this. So if anyone can recommend a good app, I'll be grateful.
I’m using a samsung galaxy tab s7+ (12,4 inches),and you can use clip paint studio painting app on it, which you can synchronise with your pc/mac. The stylus is great and drawing experience is excellent.
Here is an article that should help you choose a android drawing app: https://pctechtest.com/20-best-digital-art-drawing-software