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Are you guys having any problems with stereo sound quality playback or
sound quality (both ends) during calls?
I'm getting a black Jawbone for handling calls but I would like to be able to
listen to music or watch video on the commute to and from work without
having the 'train/subway' in my head.
Is the S9 from Motorola good at pairing up with the Hermes (X01HT in my
case) and holding the connection? Do all the remote features on the S9 headset
work with the S9/Hermes pairing?
Thanks in advance for any advice you may have.
hey man. the s9 are great...the best stereo headset hands down! its like jaw dropping. the controls on the side is very sensitive. its not like an actually button besides the talk/end button. the audio controls are like touch control. HOWEVER, the actual headset for phone calls is horrible...most stereo headsets use both sides to listen to the caller...however this one only allows hearing the caller on the LEFT ear...that is the only downside. if you're coming from the jawbone...it is night and day...but for music/video purposes its great. i use it for my ipod now
truciet said:
hey man. the s9 are great...the best stereo headset hands down! its like jaw dropping. the controls on the side is very sensitive. its not like an actually button besides the talk/end button. the audio controls are like touch control. HOWEVER, the actual headset for phone calls is horrible...most stereo headsets use both sides to listen to the caller...however this one only allows hearing the caller on the LEFT ear...that is the only downside. if you're coming from the jawbone...it is night and day...but for music/video purposes its great. i use it for my ipod now
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Cool, I was worried about stereo sound quality over BT since BT isn't known
for great sound quality to begin with. I have heard that the S9 are only
average for calls but that's going to be the Jawbone's job.
So all the button features like answer/end, volume up/down, play/pause
and forward/back tracks all work with the Hermes based phone?
I love the S9. the audio and the controls all work wonderfully.
The phone aspect isn't really good, it picks up a lot of background noise and it can be a bit difficult to annunciate into it.
As a music headset it is GREAT. great sound. Louder than it needs to be and great frequency range
I use the S9 quite a bit. The sound quality is fantastic and the volume can get quite loud. You'll often see me at starbucks listening to streaming internet radio with my S9/8525.
As far as call quality, it's not too bad. you only get call audio out of the left earbud, since the mic is in the right one. There's pretty good compression going on with the mic, so you really don't have to raise your voice at all. However, callers on the other end complain about background sound if I'm in a noisy place, so use it accordingly.
( I use the JawBone also, especially for long calls where background noise would be unacceptable. )
Radimus said:
I love the S9. the audio and the controls all work wonderfully.
The phone aspect isn't really good, it picks up a lot of background noise and it can be a bit difficult to annunciate into it.
As a music headset it is GREAT. great sound. Louder than it needs to be and great frequency range
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Louder than needed is always better than "I wish it could be louder". I was
hoping that it would not be underpowered. Thanks for bringing that point up
as I didn't read that in any of the online reviews out there. Plus, I always
think those reviews aren't so 'real life' anyways. Here on XDA-developers
you get the 'actual real life' reviews with no worries that someone is getting
paid to prop the product up for profit.
Call quality is a concern but I figured into that an ordered a Jawbone based
on the great reviews its received here on XDA.
Thanks for your input.
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I use the S9 quite a bit. The sound quality is fantastic and the volume can get quite loud. You'll often see me at starbucks listening to streaming internet radio with my S9/8525.
As far as call quality, it's not too bad. you only get call audio out of the left earbud, since the mic is in the right one. There's pretty good compression going on with the mic, so you really don't have to raise your voice at all. However, callers on the other end complain about background sound if I'm in a noisy place, so use it accordingly.
( I use the JawBone also, especially for long calls where background noise would be unacceptable. )
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It's really good to hear that the S9 is NOT underpowered volume wise.
You can always turn it down but it really does suck when the sound is weak.
I would figure some of that loudness maybe due to what looks like a really
good fit (seal) of the headset to the ear causing a good block of surrounding
sounds.
It's too bad about call quality because that is usually one of Motorola only
strong points in most of their products. Oh well, I guess the other one being
looks has been achieved with the S9.
The background noise issue is the same reason I'm getting the Jawbone. I
have had the same complaint with the OEM wired headset that came with
the X01HT. People just don't want to talk to you when it gets hard to
understand you. Plus it really just doesn't help if you're trying to handle
a situation that needs no extra stress added like that loud background
noise. It's too bad because the caller's voice comes in nice and clear through
those OEM stereo headsets. Sometimes it's kind of creepy because it's too
clear and it sounds as if they're right in your head.
Thanks for your input.
I had the s9 for about a month. It was great for music and video via Coreplayer. No skipping on my 8525 with the lastest rom. Call quality was decent, but I bought it for the music. Now, the bad news, my S9 just died on me a couple days ago and wouldn't charge. I finally got it to work ,sortof, but the controls on the right side don't respond. Called Motorola and got a return authorization. Will be sending it back. Hope it was just a fluke. Just some info. With coreplayer the S9 controls play/pause skip/ff didn't work. But volume and phone control worked.
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I had the s9 for about a month. It was great for music and video via Coreplayer. No skipping on my 8525 with the lastest rom. Call quality was decent, but I bought it for the music. Now, the bad news, my S9 just died on me a couple days ago and wouldn't charge. I finally got it to work ,sortof, but the controls on the right side don't respond. Called Motorola and got a return authorization. Will be sending it back. Hope it was just a fluke. Just some info. With coreplayer the S9 controls play/pause skip/ff didn't work. But volume and phone control worked.
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Did you buy direct from Motorola? I just placed an order from an 'online shop'
so I hope I don't have any problems down the road. If I do, I hope I can deal
with MOTO directly since they 'sometimes' tend to be a bit more on the ball.
Plus most online shops will tell you to go directly to the manufacturer to deal
with warranty issues anyways so you never know who's handling warranty.
Good luck with the warranty exchange and I hope it all works out for you.
Thanks for the heads up on the non-functioning buttons with Coreplayer.
I did want to point out a few details before I posted my review of them over at mobilitysite
Pro: USB charging... 1 cable to rule them all
Pro: only 1 blinking light, relatively subdued and it is facing the back of your neck while worn
Pro: will turn itself off after an hour if I fall asleep or an otherwise careless
Con: my fat fingers aren't really sensitive enough to find the little controls while worn
Con: it doesn't quite feel right on my big fat head... don't know if it is because it has to spread out a bit to get around my head or if I'm just not used to it. In any case it is very secure and isn't going to slip off.
Con: No way of determining battery life.. is it good for an hour or 8 hours?
Con: not quite flexible enough to store or a clip for a lanyard, although it is an easy fix to tie something to it
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I did want to point out a few details before I posted my review of them over at mobilitysite
Pro: USB charging... 1 cable to rule them all
Pro: only 1 blinking light, relatively subdued and it is facing the back of your neck while worn
Pro: will turn itself off after an hour if I fall asleep or an otherwise careless
Con: my fat fingers aren't really sensitive enough to find the little controls while worn
Con: it doesn't quite feel right on my big fat head... don't know if it is because it has to spread out a bit to get around my head or if I'm just not used to it. In any case it is very secure and isn't going to slip off.
Con: No way of determining battery life.. is it good for an hour or 8 hours?
Con: not quite flexible enough to store or a clip for a lanyard, although it is an easy fix to tie something to it
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Thanks for breaking it down into pros vs cons.
I did not know that the S9 would shut it self down after an hour of inactivity.
That's cool since it should extent battery life a bit. The blinking LED is
hopefully not too noticeable by others, I hope.
Yeah, I've heard that the buttons can be a bit of a pain to deal with simply
because of the way they are made. I guess I'll just see how I rate in finger
size when I get these S9s sometime next week according to the website I
ordered them from.
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Did you buy direct from Motorola? I just placed an order from an 'online shop'
so I hope I don't have any problems down the road. If I do, I hope I can deal
with MOTO directly since they 'sometimes' tend to be a bit more on the ball.
Plus most online shops will tell you to go directly to the manufacturer to deal
with warranty issues anyways so you never know who's handling warranty.
Good luck with the warranty exchange and I hope it all works out for you.
Thanks for the heads up on the non-functioning buttons with Coreplayer.
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I bought my S9 from an online shop as well, so i'm hoping that motorola wont give me a hard time when I turn it in for repair. In the meangtime I just ordered a sony hbh-ds-970 as a backup.
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I bought my S9 from an online shop as well, so i'm hoping that motorola wont give me a hard time when I turn it in for repair. In the meangtime I just ordered a sony hbh-ds-970 as a backup.
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It's going to be Christmas in June for me when the Jawbone and the S9 arrive
this week and next week. Hopefully I won't have trouble with either one
of them because warranty returns are such a PITA.
Here is the link to my junior review...
http://www.mobilitysite.com/boards/...-s9-stereo-bluetooth-headphones-unboxing.html
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Here is the link to my junior review...
http://www.mobilitysite.com/boards/...-s9-stereo-bluetooth-headphones-unboxing.html
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Nice review and pictures.
"geek jewelry" ROFLMA
For me its a 7.5 out of ten. Two things i dont like, it hurts my left ears just a little if i keep it in there for long, and that you only hear from the left side when talking on the phone... other from that i'm ok with it.
S9 - Not perfect, but very nice
The Motorola S9 is a really nice little headset.
I find it a bit weak on bass, but I’m coming from a Motorola V3i (non-iTunes) with Motorola wired USB stereo headset, and that is one of the most impressive low cost sets of ear buds I’ve ever worn. Not sure how they did that! Note that Motorola wired USB headsets do NOT work on the Hermes, which is a shame, because the HTC wired headset is real junk.
The only glitchy things I’ve seen so far with the S9 and the Hermes / 8525 are:
After hanging up a call, music resumes, but sometimes skips badly for 10-20 seconds. A couple times pressing answer has given only a hum in the left ear, and no ability to talk or listen. Hopefully, the final versions of the Win Mob 6 Bluetooth stack will take care of this.
The S9 ships with 2 different sets of rubber “nubs” to cover the speakers. The default ones that come installed are small, and can be removed and rotated to really direct the sound into your ear as best as possible for different sizes and shapes of ears. In a little bag, you will find a spare set of the default nubs, but ALSO a larger set that have a very soft rubber membrane that floats over a harder rubber inner tube. Some users may find these more comfortable, as they do not intrude into your ear as far.
Personally, I don’t mind the fact that it switches to left ear only for voice calls, I’ve never been all that keen on that “you’re inside my head” sensation of stereo headsets when used for monaural voice.
Remember that on a stock Cingular ROM with Win Mob 5, this headset will basically sound like “mono”, not stereo, but that’s not Motorola’s fault, it's M$'s atrocious BT stack!
Good points:
- really, REALLY light, yet stays in place no matter what
- AV and phone controls work properly with HTC Hermes & Windows Mobile
- Rubber ear nubs direct sound into your ears without need for itchy foam covers
- Really soft touch activation of volume and FF/REW buttons (prevents displacment of the headset while adjusting the most common controls)
Not so good points:
- No indication of how much battery charge is left
- A little weak on bass response
- Not enough tactile difference to easily distinguish between play and answer buttons vs volume and FF/REW buttons
- Picks up room noise really badly in phone mode - works best in quiet(er) locations.
haiti525 said:
The Motorola S9 is a really nice little headset.
I find it a bit weak on bass, but I’m coming from a Motorola V3i (non-iTunes) with Motorola wired USB stereo headset, and that is one of the most impressive low cost sets of ear buds I’ve ever worn. Not sure how they did that! Note that Motorola wired USB headsets do NOT work on the Hermes, which is a shame, because the HTC wired headset is real junk.
The only glitchy things I’ve seen so far with the S9 and the Hermes / 8525 are:
After hanging up a call, music resumes, but sometimes skips badly for 10-20 seconds. A couple times pressing answer has given only a hum in the left ear, and no ability to talk or listen. Hopefully, the final versions of the Win Mob 6 Bluetooth stack will take care of this.
The S9 ships with 2 different sets of rubber “nubs” to cover the speakers. The default ones that come installed are small, and can be removed and rotated to really direct the sound into your ear as best as possible for different sizes and shapes of ears. In a little bag, you will find a spare set of the default nubs, but ALSO a larger set that have a very soft rubber membrane that floats over a harder rubber inner tube. Some users may find these more comfortable, as they do not intrude into your ear as far.
Personally, I don’t mind the fact that it switches to left ear only for voice calls, I’ve never been all that keen on that “you’re inside my head” sensation of stereo headsets when used for monaural voice.
Remember that on a stock Cingular ROM with Win Mob 5, this headset will basically sound like “mono”, not stereo, but that’s not Motorola’s fault, it's M$'s atrocious BT stack!
Good points:
- really, REALLY light, yet stays in place no matter what
- AV and phone controls work properly with HTC Hermes & Windows Mobile
- Rubber ear nubs direct sound into your ears without need for itchy foam covers
- Really soft touch activation of volume and FF/REW buttons (prevents displacment of the headset while adjusting the most common controls)
Not so good points:
- No indication of how much battery charge is left
- A little weak on bass response
- Not enough tactile difference to easily distinguish between play and answer buttons vs volume and FF/REW buttons
- Picks up room noise really badly in phone mode - works best in quiet(er) locations.
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Thanks for your review. You filled a few more of the blanks that I was trying
to figure out. I hope the bass response won't be an issue for me but then
again I like to 'feel' my bass and these are just headphones so I don't expect
be getting 'rocked' by them is what I'm telling myself long before they arrive.
OMG!!! BASS and lots of it!!! I am using GSPlayer with the sound settings
VERY tweaked to my taste and even with BassBoost at minimum I am getting
more bass then I would have imagined possible with a BT stereo headset.
Of course you must have really good, clean 192KBps or better MP3s to begin
with and if you ripped them yourself at 320KBps, then you're just enjoying
better then can be expected results with a BT stereo headset.
Me likely!
Once I manage to wipe the stupid smile off my face I will be back to
update my findings for anyone still on the fence thinking about getting
one of these Motorola S9's and needing a slight shove.
I put on the large silicon ear fittings and the bass is incredible.
With the latest ROM's and improved BT drivers I am now able to leave the phone next to the wall about 12 feet behind the basketball goal and shoot pro 3-pointers all day without skipping a beat. And that's while streaming with iPlay from my desktop at home. The microphone isn't the best but if someone calls you can talk, get rid of them, and get back to shooting and jamming in no time. We're getting there...
I have about 30 different headphones/earbuds etc that I have collected over the years. They range from stuff like the $30 earbuds (some of which sound pretty good) to my high end Ultimate Ears TripleFi & a set of Etymotic ER-4P earbuds.
I had never tried a headphone amp before, but on the advice of a poster here I recently bought two different Fiio amps. I have both the little E6 & the bigger/more powerful E11.
When using these with the cheap stuff like the ibeats etc. they don't make a heck of a lot of difference other than increasing the volume & boosting the bass if you want..(both have 3 different EQ settings)
On the higher end stuff it is a whole different story however. The Etymotic set produces sound that is absolutely to die for running from either amp. The TripleFi are the same way.
I use both sets all day at work in a pretty noisy work environment. I like the warmer sound of the UE's slightly better, but the Etymotic's isolate background noise better. Both block ambient sound better than my Bose QC 15's & sound a heck of a lot better (of course that's not saying much....). The Etymotic completely totally block ALL ambient noise, it is like sticking a cork in your ear allowing you to listen to music etc at a lower volume than with the cheaper sets. I use the foam tips that come with them which are similar to the comfort foam tips.
As far as the AMPs go, the E6 absolutely blows me away as far as what it delivers for the size/price etc. When I first opened the box, the thing was so tiny/light (it is about the size/weight of a matchbook) that I figured it was more of a joke than anything. I payed $20 for it on ebay, & first looking at it I figured I had just wasted my money.
Then I charged it up & tried it out with the Etymotics. I was absolutely stunned at what a difference it made in the sound. I have never been all that impressed with those earbuds before (especially considering what they sell for). The difference in sound quality running from either AMP is night & day however.
The E11 has double the power of the little one & a few more features (& I love the rotary volume control) but it is a LOT bigger/heavier & best suited to home use.
I have used both all day at work at various times. I'm not sure how long the batteries last as neither one has ever gone dead on me & I have used both for around 10 hours at a time.
Thanks for the feedback, I've have a pair of ER-4's myself and I've heard an amp is a must for them, just never got around to buying one. I shall have to give the Fiio E6 a try with them.
I think you'll be happy with the E6 (& you sure can't beat it for the price). The amp and the correct tips where the two things that improved the sound dramatically.
I must have tried 10 different tips before I realized that for my ears, the black foam tips gave the best bass response etc. I had tried two different sets of comfort foam replacement tips & wasn't happy with the sound of either one. The CF where very comfortable, but they where longer & after a while I realized that the farther out the tips push the buds, the less bass they produce.
I've been using the gray 3 flange ear tips with them, they've worked pretty well for me.
mjones73 said:
I've been using the gray 3 flange ear tips with them, they've worked pretty well for me.
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I can't use those tips, my ear canal must be too big.
When I try to use those, I get no bass at all & they fall right out of my ears
Headphones seem cheaply made.
Why no volume buttons?
Why not use standard 3.5mm?
Did Sony assigned only one part time intern to design the headphones?
Are they not standard 3.5mm phones? Anyway, they seem at least as good to me as the phone Apple bundles with their products.
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They are standard 3.5mm unless you don't have a Z Ultra.
Sony produce some of the best ear buds out there and these are no exception. Crystal clear and pumps out the bass.
If the standard length of cord supplied with the headphones is too long for you to reach your phone volume control, cut it.
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Headphones seem cheaply made.
Why no volume buttons?
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Why no volume buttons? Those aren't standard. The only thing that truly is standard in a stereo headphone jack is the top/ring/sleeve design with 3 contacts and the 3.5mm size. The headphones that have volume buttons and/or action buttons use a non-standard additional contact, and devices which aren't designed with the non-standard headphones in mind can't even make use of the extra buttons, even if they may support other functionality with extra contacts. For example, my Galaxy Nexus can understand the action button on Apple earbuds, because it was made to expect that sort of functionality on the jack's extra contact, but it cannot understand the other volume buttons on the headphones as they are non-standard.
Afrobean said:
Why no volume buttons? Those aren't standard. The only thing that truly is standard in a stereo headphone jack is the top/ring/sleeve design with 3 contacts and the 3.5mm size. The headphones that have volume buttons and/or action buttons use a non-standard additional contact, and devices which aren't designed with the non-standard headphones in mind can't even make use of the extra buttons, even if they may support other functionality with extra contacts. For example, my Galaxy Nexus can understand the action button on Apple earbuds, because it was made to expect that sort of functionality on the jack's extra contact, but it cannot understand the other volume buttons on the headphones as they are non-standard.
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Actually using urbeats earpieces designed for HTC phone and it recognize the forward/backward buttons for volume up/down as well as the play and stop button that with a double push go to next track. Sony only put basic earpieces as all manufacturer, having volume on it or not does nothing to the quality. Never found basic earpieces giving a good quality, so nothing to cry about it.
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knite75 said:
Headphones seem cheaply made.
Why no volume buttons?
Why not use standard 3.5mm?
Did Sony assigned only one part time intern to design the headphones?
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I have just purchased the Samsung galaxy Note 3. I mention that to illustrate I am not biased to one brand.
In terms of sound reproduction, Sony are class leaders, they invented the 'Portable sound' technology. No standard headphones due justice to any of the branded phones they are sold with.
Sony head phones are the best available as an 'in the box' headphone BUT can be vastly improved on. Apple are amazingly among the worst?
I have a preference for Sennheiser and you can make a choice that suits your own ears.
If you don't like Sony sound reproduction I have no idea what to advise you? Oh and no in the box phones come with volume controls uless its a special offer.
Tell you what. I will exchange your Sony headphones for an unused pair of Samsung galaxy note headphones.:good:
What have you been using 'till this point? What brand of phone and have you tried other brands of headphone such as Sennheiser?
Regards.
I'm no audiophile (at all!), but i wouldn't say they're bad. I've noticed that thay aren't exactly pumping the bass like other more expensive ear plugs, but i personally think that the audio alone is fairly good. It's clean and it hits most tones, but again.. the bass is just not there. An EQ will quickly fix this though (yeah, i've tested it). If you're listening a lot to dance, trance, techno, dubstep, hip hop etc. then these won't cut it. If you listen to music with a lot of different instruments, then they'll be more suitable.
Again, i'm not an audiophile so these are just my personal thoughts.
The sony ones sound better than anything that I have that were "free". for free head phones they are good.
Ryland Johnson said:
I have just purchased the Samsung galaxy Note 3. I mention that to illustrate I am not biased to one brand.
In terms of sound reproduction, Sony are class leaders, they invented the 'Portable sound' technology. No standard headphones due justice to any of the branded phones they are sold with.
Sony head phones are the best available as an 'in the box' headphone BUT can be vastly improved on. Apple are amazingly among the worst?
I have a preference for Sennheiser and you can make a choice that suits your own ears.
If you don't like Sony sound reproduction I have no idea what to advise you? Oh and no in the box phones come with volume controls uless its a special offer.
Tell you what. I will exchange your Sony headphones for an unused pair of Samsung galaxy note headphones.:good:
What have you been using 'till this point? What brand of phone and have you tried other brands of headphone such as Sennheiser?
Regards.
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OP seems to complain the things that comes with the bundle without comparing what other phones have to offer.
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The sony ones sound better than anything that I have that were "free". for free head phones they are good.
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"sounding better" is personal preference anyway. no point to clarify with OP on the matter but yes, as for the headphone that don't look like a cheap earbuds, it's one of the good one in quality for it's range
LordManhattan said:
I'm no audiophile (at all!), but i wouldn't say they're bad. I've noticed that thay aren't exactly pumping the bass like other more expensive ear plugs, but i personally think that the audio alone is fairly good. It's clean and it hits most tones, but again.. the bass is just not there. An EQ will quickly fix this though (yeah, i've tested it). If you're listening a lot to dance, trance, techno, dubstep, hip hop etc. then these won't cut it. If you listen to music with a lot of different instruments, then they'll be more suitable.
Again, i'm not an audiophile so these are just my personal thoughts.
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Really? I remember thinking they were too bass-heavy. Granted, I only used them while I was watching a movie, not actually listening to music, so maybe I need to give them another shot. However, I remember thinking they definitely sounded heavier in the bass than my XBA BT75 earbuds I normally use for music listening, which sound flatter and clearer to my ears.
EDIT: Yes, these stock Sony earbuds are definitely more bottom-heavy than my other ones. If anything, these need a bass cut, because they're bordering on being muddy. On the whole, they have a pretty obvious "smiley face" response, unsurprisingly. Lots of bass, and the high frequencies have been boosted as well--cymbals, for instance, are a little too "sizzly" for me.
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Really? I remember thinking they were too bass-heavy. Granted, I only used them while I was watching a movie, not actually listening to music, so maybe I need to give them another shot. However, I remember thinking they definitely sounded heavier in the bass than my XBA BT75 earbuds I normally use for music listening, which sound flatter and clearer to my ears.
EDIT: Yes, these stock Sony earbuds are definitely more bottom-heavy than my other ones. If anything, these need a bass cut, because they're bordering on being muddy. On the whole, they have a pretty obvious "smiley face" response, unsurprisingly. Lots of bass, and the high frequencies have been boosted as well--cymbals, for instance, are a little too "sizzly" for me.
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Mine are the opposite. There are barely any bass. I'll do some research.
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seems like more incentive to invest in some good headphones or buy the SBH52
Head phones-ear buds. A quick explanation.
I will try and make this brief and simple. Head phones-ear buds can only produce or reproduce the sound that they are connected to, the source. Headphones come in various types, in ear, (the type that come with the mobile), open head phones (the sound they reproduce can be heard by others in the room) and closed back (in theory only the wearer can hear the sound.
Next, The source, in terms of Sony devices, is class leading especially at this price point. Standard in the box ear buds are there as part of the package, they do not faithfully reproduce what the source produces. Non of them.
Frequency response. This is the level of bass to the level of treble each head phone is rated. Examples Sennheiser CX300-11 in ear. Frequency response;19-2100Hz. Sennheiser CX400-11, 17-22,000Hz. Translated this means the CX400 will be able to reproduce deeper bass tones and higher treble tones thus the midrange should be as clear as a bell.
Please remember what in ear buds use as a bass chamber is part our outer and part inner in, as far as the timpani goes, the 'eardrum', If we use a very high volume ,especially with in ear buds, damage can and is done to our ear drum and hearing. With this in mind such an ear bud MUST be used with caution. As soon as we connect an ear phone to a Sony device the volume is automatically reduced to ensure we don't damage the ear.
Now, we have the source, in our case the mobile phone, and the reproduction, the ear bud. What will also count to the overall quality of reproduction are the connections. The plug the cable also the quality of the components used in the manufacture of the ear bud or head phone.
It is false economy and rather unwise to use the in box freebies. Spend between 40.00€ and 50.00€ and one can purchase an ear bud or on ear open or closed head phone that will knock your socks of. Is it worth it? This is a question of how you use your device. I use it first as a mobile phone, secondly as a way to send and receive SMS and thirdly to listen to music, with this in mind I purchase branded head phones and branded ear buds.
A brilliant starter for in ear buds is the Sennheiser CX300-11. For a portable open ear head phone I use the Sennheiser PX100-11. Both are industry leaders.
let me quickly add there is no such thing as 'the best', its choice, its what type of sound each of us prefers. I use Sennheiser as I enjoy the type of sound they produce and for the price involved I find them exceptional, there are numerous other brands to chose from.
DO NOT go and purchase any sort of ear bud or head phone costing hundreds of euros as the source will not provide the FR for the head phones to reproduce. One has to evaluate with care how to match ones device between source and speaker.
I hope this small missive may help some members who enjoy music.
Kind regards.
Thank you for a quality post, Johnson (yes, I'll keep calling you that). Say, what would you recommend to a person who listens a lot to bass filled music?
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LordManhattan said:
Thank you for a quality post, Johnson (yes, I'll keep calling you that). Say, what would you recommend to a person who listens a lot to bass filled music?
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Sennheiser CX400-11. FR: 17-22000Hz for ear buds, and the Sennheiser PX100-11. FR: 15-27000Hz for open back on head ear phones (they are portable as they fold up).
I am not to fond of in ear buds even though I always carry a pair, I use the CX300-11.
For general use and a simply stunning sound with bass to rattle your teeth, I use the PX100-11. They come in white or black.
Remember its the source that will count and with the Sony Walkman being utilised NOT the Google play, the sound is clear, well balanced, deep and very well controlled. Mid range is simply spectacular. I enjoy a very wide cross section of music from classical to pop to what ever.
Again I must add that there is nothing 'wrong' with using a graphic equaliser. I don't as I enjoy the music as it was recorded BUT if you enjoy that extra bass then go for it. Do remember when you deepen the bass using a graphic equaliser you alter the stage sound as a whole. No problem if you enjoy a bass heavy sound.
The good point is you have a very high quality source with the Sony. As such I sincerely believe the device deserves a fitting head phone or ear bud.
let us know what you purchase.
Oh and don't forget top allow the ear bud or head phone to 'run in' for 48 hours before you make an assessment. That is very important.
Regards.
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Are they not standard 3.5mm phones? Anyway, they seem at least as good to me as the phone Apple bundles with their products.
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Same here
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First and foremost, a note to the mods:
I'm asking a question about V30 accessories, so I wasn't sure where to post this thread. If I chose, wrong, then please forgive me and move it. I'm really sorry!
Now for the question:
I want a good sounding in-ear earbud for my V30. I have a decent set of cans, but they aren't very portable and I want a a good set of earbuds too. I mostly listen to rock and metal and prefer flat sounding headphones (I think... I don't like the bass overpowering the vocals and I don't use any equalizers in my music player app... so, flat?).
I can't afford much, but $150 is the most I'm willing to spend and have narrowed my choices down to two specific headphones based on reviews here on XDA and Amazon.
The problem is, the headphones have a lot of drastically different specs and now I'm super confused on what to buy.
Choice 1 is the SoundMagic E80C
https://soundmagicheadphones.com/products/soundmagic-e80c-in-ear-isolating-earphones-with-mic
(scroll to specifications)
It has- compared to Choice 2- a lower frequency range (15Hz - 22KHz), but a higher sensitivity (102dB) and impedance (64 Ohms).
In fact, I bought them already and like them, but wondering if Choice 2 would be better.
Buyer's remorse combined with confusion of headphone spec meanings. UGH!
Choice 2 is the 1More Quad Driver Headphones
https://usa.1more.com/products/1more-quad-driver-in-ear-headphones
(Again, scroll to Specs)
It has- compared to Choice 1- a higher frequency range (20 - 40,000Hz), but a lower sensitivity (99dB) and impedance (32 Ohms). On top of that, it has 4 drivers and is THX certified (if that means anything with the V30).
Now, here's the reason for my confusion. Everyone here on XDA and many other sites are praising the V30's Quad-Dac, but say that it won't kick in under 50 Ohms. This is making me believe that higher impedance is better, so I need Choice 1 (why I bought it). However, audiophile websites are saying something like (based on my understanding) higher frequency is better and so is sensitivity. This is making me wonder if Choice 2 is actually better for me because the sensitivity is only slightly lower than Choice 1, but the frequency is almost double of Choice 1. They say too that bigger drivers aren't necessarily better, so... Choice 1 again?
So, after hours of research, buyer's remorse (wondering if I made the correct purchase), and my brain frying from confusion, I ask my fellow V30 owners:
Can you help me make a buying decision? Did I make a good decision and should keep the SoundMagic E80C, or should I return them and pay more for the 1More Quad-Drivers?
This decision needs to be based on the music I listen to and I don't want bassy headphones intended for hip-hop, rap, etc.
Thank you, Community and I look forward to seeing what you all have to say.
SOUND MAGIC E80: Superb, for in-ear headphones*. There may be something to the idea that higher impedance headphones have better sound quality by virtue of higher intensity magnetic field produced by more wire turns, e.g. better damping & control, faster response, etc. (E80 has 64 Ohm impedance, relatively high for in-ears and enough to trigger the V30 high impedance mode.)
The "C" suffix means some form of inline controls, there is (or was) also an "S" suffix model denoting inline controls. I got the version without inline controls, the E80.
On the other headphone with quad drivers: I tried a 1More triple driver, and the sound was muddy. My guess is that multiple drivers may introduce problems with intermodulation and also crossovers if those are used. Just a guess. Haven't tried the quad driver version, but after finding the E80, I have no need to.
(* In-ears have their own drawbacks, including effect on audio quality related to placement and seal in the ear, and "microphonics" aka noise conducted to the headphone from mechanical movement of cables. I accept those issues as the trade-off for the advantages of in-ears for use while exercising etc. The cable noise can be reduced by looping the cable over the ear.)
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I have both and prefer the Soundmagic by far.
Whichever earbuds you get, don't forget to easily root that phone(Magisk necessary), use WhiskeyOmega's mod for utilizing the advanced Dac preset always and installing Viper4Android.
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Whichever earbuds you get, don't forget to easily root that phone(Magisk necessary), use WhiskeyOmega's mod for utilizing the advanced Dac preset always and installing Viper4Android.
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I'm not interested in rooting and last I checked, the ATT variant isnt rootable. (See edit) I rooted the V20 and found it to have been a complete waste of my time. It just didnt add anything useful for me.
I also had installed Viper4Android on the V20 and the Play Store kept disabling it because it thought it was malware or something. It was SUPER annoying to deal with on a daily basis and don't want to deal with it on my V30. Plus, I don't need it anyways since I said I don't use equalizer settings and prefer the settings to be flat. It sounds better that way. It sounds like how the bands intended their music to sound. (At least I feel that way)ñ
Edit: I think I'm wrong. I guess all variants except the T-Mobile one have root now? Still not interested though.
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SOUND MAGIC E80: Superb, for in-ear headphones*. There may be something to the idea that higher impedance headphones have better sound quality by virtue of higher intensity magnetic field produced by more wire turns, e.g. better damping & control, faster response, etc. (E80 has 64 Ohm impedance, relatively high for in-ears and enough to trigger the V30 high impedance mode.)
The "C" suffix means some form of inline controls, there is (or was) also an "S" suffix model denoting inline controls. I got the version without inline controls, the E80.
On the other headphone with quad drivers: I tried a 1More triple driver, and the sound was muddy. My guess is that multiple drivers may introduce problems with intermodulation and also crossovers if those are used. Just a guess. Haven't tried the quad driver version, but after finding the E80, I have no need to.
(* In-ears have their own drawbacks, including effect on audio quality related to placement and seal in the ear, and "microphonics" aka noise conducted to the headphone from mechanical movement of cables. I accept those issues as the trade-off for the advantages of in-ears for use while exercising etc. The cable noise can be reduced by looping the cable over the ear.)
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I have both and prefer the Soundmagic by far.
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Thanks you two!
I think I'll keep the Soundmagic E80C's. After thinking about things a bit more (and reading opinions), the E80C's seem to be a better deal. They sound great, but cost less than the 1Mores do. So more bang for the buck I guess.
e80 are not flat, they are quite bright and unbalanced and they lack bass like any other soundmagic E-series out there.
1more quad on the other side are as flat as inear headphones cand be, are balanced and have superb sound stage. they are not harsh on highs (like 1more triple are). they are not muddy or warm or bright, they sound almost like my monitor speakers i have on the desk which i can asure you that they are as flat as any speakers can be.
but if you prefer soundmagic, i think that you might not know what flat sound is...
i tried e10, e50, e80 and decided to spend more money and get something that has more quality because my years really hurt and not even a week on them couldn't get used to the very bright sound they have, which did not happen when i was using 1more quad.
i don't even know how you compare these two because the 1more is almost 4 times more expensive than e80...
if you want something that really sounds good you should also look at Shure SE846
and seach whathifi forum because here, on xda, i had arguments with people saying that there is no difference between bluetooth and wire...
and another mistake you made is that in the audiophile world you cannot speak of "bang for the buck" because you cannot find the best cheap ones out there, it's simply like this: if you want quality, you pay because if you buy something that is cheaper you cannot get the sound of a high quality earphones by using cheapr ones and apply some "tricks" on them, you just have a lower quality sound. (quality can be described in may aspects, some even call themselves audiophile and praise the "extra bass" sticker on some sony boxes)
but many people out there do not understand this.
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e80 are not flat, they are quite bright and unbalanced and they lack bass like any other soundmagic E-series out there.
1more quad on the other side are as flat as inear headphones cand be, are balanced and have superb sound stage. they are not harsh on highs (like 1more triple are). they are not muddy or warm or bright, they sound almost like my monitor speakers i have on the desk which i can asure you that they are as flat as any speakers can be.
but if you prefer soundmagic, i think that you might not know what flat sound is...
i tried e10, e50, e80 and decided to spend more money and get something that has more quality because my years really hurt and not even a week on them couldn't get used to the very bright sound they have, which did not happen when i was using 1more quad.
i don't even know how you compare these two because the 1more is almost 4 times more expensive than e80...
if you want something that really sounds good you should also look at Shure SE846
and seach whathifi forum because here, on xda, i had arguments with people saying that there is no difference between bluetooth and wire...
and another mistake you made is that in the audiophile world you cannot speak of "bang for the buck" because you cannot find the best cheap ones out there, it's simply like this: if you want quality, you pay because if you buy something that is cheaper you cannot get the sound of a high quality earphones by using cheapr ones and apply some "tricks" on them, you just have a lower quality sound. (quality can be described in may aspects, some even call themselves audiophile and praise the "extra bass" sticker on some sony boxes)
but many people out there do not understand this.
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As noted, in-ear headphones designed to seal against the outer ear canal are very sensitive to fitment and seal. This is one of their drawbacks, and also produces widely varying opinions about any given headphone model.
I can produce a wide range of response (audio quality) with the E80 and any other headphone of this type simply by adjusting the fit, and also by using different tips. The bass is especially affected.
Even when a good fit and seal is obtained, the fit tends to loosen with use and user movement, one must periodically reseat the headphones to restore the seal.
Also, even if a tip produces a good seal, it may produce inferior audio quality compared to another tip, depending on headphone and individual user ear canal shape. For example, the Comply tips produce inferior sound quality in my ears compared to the base silicone tips of the E80. I suspect because the Complys have a longer and thinner opening "duct" and more absorbent material, which veil more of the driver, constrict airflow more, and absorb more sound energy than the silicone tips.
The E80 produce excellent response across the frequency range for me with the large silicone tips, when firmly seated just-so. If they are not seated just right, the quality suffers, just like all other sealing type in-ears. I'm comparing to two good standalone stereos and also other headphones.
No offense, but the Shure line is typically poor quality audio. They roll off at about 16-18kHz, producing noticeably dull sound compared to decent headphones. They made their name in professional monitors, which are intended for reliablility and durability, for use by performers, not high fidelity.
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As noted, in-ear headphones designed to seal against the outer ear canal are very sensitive to fitment and seal. This is one of their drawbacks, and also produces widely varying opinions about any given headphone model.
I can produce a wide range of response (audio quality) with the E80 and any other headphone of this type simply by adjusting the fit, and also by using different tips. The bass is especially affected.
Even when a good fit and seal is obtained, the fit tends to loosen with use and user movement, one must periodically reseat the headphones to restore the seal.
Also, even if a tip produces a good seal, it may produce inferior audio quality compared to another tip, depending on headphone and individual user ear canal shape. For example, the Comply tips produce inferior sound quality in my ears compared to the base silicone tips of the E80. I suspect because the Complys have a longer and thinner opening "duct" and more absorbent material, which veil more of the driver, constrict airflow more, and absorb more sound energy than the silicone tips.
The E80 produce excellent response across the frequency range for me with the large silicone tips, when firmly seated just-so. If they are not seated just right, the quality suffers, just like all other sealing type in-ears. I'm comparing to two good standalone stereos and also other headphones.
No offense, but the Shure line is typically poor quality audio. They roll off at about 16-18kHz, producing noticeably dull sound compared to decent headphones. They made their name in professional monitors, which are intended for reliablility and durability, for use by performers, not high fidelity.
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yet you spoke only about the sealing which is important indeed, but i was speaking about the drive capabilities of the earphone itself asuming perfect sealing.
even so... for my ears the 1more quad has the best seal and i never need to refit them even when i am out with my bike or running.
foam tips never give a good seal but they are a little more comfortable over long periods of time (several hours)
if the fit tends to lose it might mean that the e80 are not for your ears and you should try to find some other that do not have fitting problems.
professional studio monitors are not made with reliablility and durability being the first in mind but the sound reproduction to be as flat as possible which helps the sound producer to hear and correct the mistakes he made during composition.
every standalone stereos have colorised sound compared to studio monitors which are flat.
i was trying to make a point in flat sound because that si what op was asking for.
if you are saying that shure se846 are low quality earphones and e80 are superior in terms of sound quality, then... we have a problem.
which, unfortunately, you cannot correct.
it is curious how you say that foam tips produce lower quality sound because of the sealing problems...
what you hear is not lower quality sound because you are using them in a way they were not supposed to. you need that good sealing!
it's not the size of the duct, or the asbsorbing material, it's the sealing.
out of curiosity, what are the speakers you compared to and the other decent headphones?
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yet you spoke only about the sealing which is important indeed, but i was speaking about the drive capabilities of the earphone itself asuming perfect sealing.
even so... for my ears the 1more quad has the best seal and i never need to refit them even when i am out with my bike or running.
foam tips never give a good seal but they are a little more comfortable over long periods of time (several hours)
if the fit tends to lose it might mean that the e80 are not for your ears and you should try to find some other that do not have fitting problems.
professional studio monitors are not made with reliablility and durability being the first in mind but the sound reproduction to be as flat as possible which helps the sound producer to hear and correct the mistakes he made during composition.
every standalone stereos have colorised sound compared to studio monitors which are flat.
i was trying to make a point in flat sound because that si what op was asking for.
if you are saying that shure se846 are low quality earphones and e80 are superior in terms of sound quality, then... we have a problem.
which, unfortunately, you cannot correct.
it is curious how you say that foam tips produce lower quality sound because of the sealing problems...
what you hear is not lower quality sound because you are using them in a way they were not supposed to. you need that good sealing!
it's not the size of the duct, or the asbsorbing material, it's the sealing.
out of curiosity, what are the speakers you compared to and the other decent headphones?
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I refer to professional in-ear monitors used by performers on stage, such as made by Shure. These are quite different than headphones used in a studio for mixing and production, which are made for accurate audio.
I have not tried all Shure in-ears, but the ones I tried performed as one would expect judging by the specs indicating complete rolloff at 16-17 kHz. That is completely missing at least the top 4 kHz of nominal human hearing range, and the sound was pathetic. Dull, lifeless.
I suspect that this may be related to the use of heavier materials (for durability), which lower the upper natural frequency response due to greater inertia of moving parts.
I compare with a standalone system using an NAD receiver with Klipsch RF-3 speakers plus Klipsch 15" sub, and another with NAD preamp, AVA amp, and Infinite Slope speakers (no longer in business).
Headphones are a personal preference matter, the disagreements and debates never end. No doubt, many who find dull headphones e.g. Shure that only extend to 17 kHz to be "good", will say that other headphones that extend to 20 kHz and above (upper hearing frequency ranges) are "too bright", To each their own, I prefer to hear the full range including both upper and lower frequencies, of the music.
Best thing to do is buy a few different headphones to try from sellers with good return policies. Then you can decide for yourself.
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I refer to professional in-ear monitors used by performers on stage, such as made by Shure. These are quite different than headphones used in a studio for mixing and production, which are made for accurate audio.
I have not tried all Shure in-ears, but the ones I tried performed as one would expect judging by the specs indicating complete rolloff at 16-17 kHz. That is completely missing at least the top 4 kHz of nominal human hearing range, and the sound was pathetic. Dull, lifeless.
I suspect that this may be related to the use of heavier materials (for durability), which lower the upper natural frequency response due to greater inertia of moving parts.
I compare with a standalone system using an NAD receiver with Klipsch RF-3 speakers plus Klipsch 15" sub, and another with NAD preamp, AVA amp, and Infinite Slope speakers (no longer in business).
Headphones are a personal preference matter, the disagreements and debates never end. No doubt, many who find dull headphones e.g. Shure that only extend to 17 kHz to be "good", will say that other headphones that extend to 20 kHz and above (upper hearing frequency ranges) are "too bright", To each their own, I prefer to hear the full range including both upper and lower frequencies, of the music.
Best thing to do is buy a few different headphones to try from sellers with good return policies. Then you can decide for yourself.
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yes, professional in-ear monitors have a different purpose and i never used a pair. i think that nobody compose music only using headphones and everyone has a pair of monitors which sound very different compared to normal speakers which are made to soung 'good'. that's why i felt a big difference between a dac for audition and a audio interface designed for audio composition (burson conductor and audient id4). i liked the audient more becuse it sounds more natural. i always disable all effects from audio players and drivers.
i have tried only these shures (856) and i liked them (yes, they are a bit warm), nut i like more 1morequad and above all the speakers i have (m3-8)
i have done some tests and i cannot hear much above 17khz and even at this frequency it needs to be really amped to hear it clarly (or the source was bad)
brightness of a headphone doesn't mean that they extend to 20khz or above, it means that the hights are way louder than the rest of the range (i think that you already knew this). i think that what you are trying to say is that every headphone has its own signature and not all humans hear the same, but because of this debate never ends.
one fact is clear, after using the soundmagic for a week i had to sell them because they were literally hurting my ears and had to boy something else.
i do not know if you tried the 1more quad but the sound they produce are more clear and bit warmer than soundmagic (maybe because the highs are not that much amplified) and i can use them for a whole day without having any problems. (yes, same volume for both on modded nexus 5x and then high impedance mode for lg v30)
i also prefer to hear the full range but i do not prefer to sacrifice the lows for more highs.
other courious thought i have is that your audio equipment is way above soundmagic e80 yet you say they sound very good...
Hello friends i want to buy V30 plus because it has DAC, my doubt is whether i can use 32ohms earphone? will this sound good. Because i could see LG V30 plus supporting only above 50 ohms. is it true? please help. i have 1more quad drive earphones which so great in clarity.
P.K.Shivaram said:
Hello friends i want to buy V30 plus because it has DAC, my doubt is whether i can use 32ohms earphone? will this sound good. Because i could see LG V30 plus supporting only above 50 ohms. is it true? please help. i have 1more quad drive earphones which so great in clarity.
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It "supports" all earphones. It will adjust to make any earphones sound good.
Without root only those with about 50 ohms or more will get HIM (high impedance mode). Your can artificially trigger that by adding short 3.5mm accessory impedance plug with any earphones or through root.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/themes/whiskeyomegas-v30-sound-mods-t3757115
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It "supports" all earphones. It will adjust to make any earphones sound good.
Without root only those with about 50 ohms or more will get HIM ((high impedance mode). Your can artificially trigger that by adding short 3.5mm accessory impedance plug with any earphones or through root.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/themes/whiskeyomegas-v30-sound-mods-t3757115
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Thanks dude for the reply.:good:
TinAudio T2. 45$. mind blowing
Personally I think the 1more Triple Drivers are a better value (and sound just as good) as the 1more quads.
Hey everybody! I got my "SoundMAGIC E80S RED Reference Series Flagship Noise Isolating In-Ear Headphones with Microphone and Remote for all Smartphones + Extra eartips" yesterday.
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N0U9YMM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
So far I'm VERY pleased with them in comparison to the GGMM C800's I was using before:
https://smile.amazon.com/GGMM-Isola...qid=1536606946&sr=1-1&keywords=GGMM+C800&th=1
I actually felt like I NEEDED to get the new headphones because I was having a weird thing with the GGMM's where I couldn't get the volume loud enough even with the volume all the way up and ViPER4Andoid tweaks. It wasn't always that way but has become a recent issue.
Now with these SoundMAGIC E80S ones the sound is SUPER loud. I don't have the Hi-Fi Quad DAC volume set above like 33 and that's already quite loud. Actually this morning I had to tweak the Hi-Fi Quad DAC and ViPER4Android settings because the highs were so clear that it was actually painful. I was using the Magisk module for ViPER4Android 2.5.0.5 but I removed that and put the unofficial ViPER4Android 2.6.0.5 from "Team_DeWitt" in /system/priv-app instead:
https://labs.xda-developers.com/store/app/com.pittvandewitt.viperfx
So far it's working well except that it sometimes crashes and I have to restart it. The 2.5.0.5 Magisk version had problems where it would frequently go to "Processing: No" and I had to reboot to get it working again. This unofficial 2.6.0.5 version seems to have fixed that, which is awesome! Also on the 2.5.0.5 I was having a problem with some Convolver impulse response files (such as SRS_1-1.irs) where the volume would constantly dip for fractions of a second. It drove me nuts and I THINK so far that this 2.6.0.5 has fixed that too!
So anyway these SoundMAGIC E80S headphones are pretty freaking amazing. I needed to tweak the DAC and V4A but right now my ears are in heaven!
So they came today!
I literally went to the registration site at 12:03 (17/10) and put in my phone and supplier details. Got confirmation of the freebies and they have arrived.
Not bad for a 14 day cooling off period.
Ok time for some hard truth.
I'll tell you why they are giving these things away.. It's because they don't really give you higher than 44khz well at least that's what I'm getting from the Dev BT debug info. which keeps reverting to 44khz 16bit.
They DO sit very snug though almost feel like you're wearing nothing. If they could shrink these down to just sit in your ear canal without the extra hardware then that would be something.
AAC @ 44100 which I'm guessing the AAC makes up for in the highs and lows.
I can't force the audio quality to go any better than this. I've tried just setting up to only 2 Bluetooth audio devices but doesn't seem to make this any better.
That being said the quality of the audio is a factor. Find some HQ dolby atmos audio demos and you might be able to apreciate these. You need HQ audio files and not MP3
The Audio is very good don't get me wrong but if you are expecting to get 96Khz at 32bits out of these then forget it.
So Dolby Atmos it is then.
DSEE HX is only for Wired Headphones.
Stick with Wired Headphones if you want true high fidelity. I'll keep you posted once I start walking around with these outside (praying not to get mugged for wearing these) to see just how good the noise cancellation is. Seems to overcompensate in a quiet room so you just need to turn this off or down otherwise you'll hear noise.
and the most no go at this set is u can't change the volume at the speakers....u always have to take out your cell phone and change volume with the phone only
I don't use nc on mine. Or ambient. I crank em up anyway.
I use mine everyday for walking the dog, had em some time. I will say, for my small ears, I surely feel wearing them when walking. And need from time to time to resnug em in, not that I'm afraid I'll loose one, I just loose snugness. This I'll compensate by wearing a beanie. No issues then.
I'll guess, this would eliminate the chances of being muged. Even though, not even worth stealing imo. Way to expensive, to what it is. So being a thief for this, is stupid. ????? So the question is, who would mug you?? Lol whoever must be stupid. ?
What did you pay for the bundle?
In Denmark it was 3336,- Dkk / 495,- US / 445,- EUR with carrier deal ofc. Phone Xperia now alone is stunning 830,- US in Denmark, with a following 300,- us wf 1000 mx3 that's 1100,-+ us. Wtf. Pretty glad got it all for under 500
One of few. Comes from Japan.
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and the most no go at this set is u can't change the volume at the speakers....u always have to take out your cell phone and change volume with the phone only
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Well u don't have to take it out, as button layout is pretty easy,even in case and through pocket. This is one of my least concerns. Why on Earth no LDAC codec for bt. As is Sony's own standard. Hi-res? They got the apple part. And released a Android. Makes sense. On the other hand. The mh version, as this is supposed to mimic, is oem but is far superior, and nothing alike to this iem. With a similar pricetag. I'll even go to my 950n'1s if it came to features. And real life buttons, no touch. Volume controll is the least missing. ? And I'll actually prefer em to my mh, I'd admit, imma basehead, the 950's for oem
Wired I'd use my ah-d7100 but then I gotta carry a dual set fiio combo besides. They are mostly just for looks at the desk. Lol
And I can only use the left one alone. Unless I start paring both. Besides. If I leave on the table, yes I'm like that, don't really care, then the left one will shut off, in 5 min, as supposed if not wearing. The right one will stay alive till draind. Is this just here?
They a supposed to connect to the box, and to what ever. Problem is, I think, they do not. As I can easily leave my case behind.
Sony broke their own codec this time around. ? It was a bundle. ??
No LDAC/ no hi-res
No auto shutoff
No individual listening.
To heavy if not dumbo the elephant
To expensive
Not even starting on the phone it self, ****less fpc. No impressive sound. Dolby atmos. Right. No dark mode on pie??? Like Huawei???? So it continues. Unfortunately.
You can get around. Sure. But it's surely not otb
Still might overall be the best iem nc bt. Or they are. So much room for improvement.
But all this before Volume controll. Hi-res listner has an amp. You'll never controll unless its by hand. ??
But all together, top tier for what's possible, and do count on like 100hours Play in.
Why hate. Sony is true underdog, but not for any fun.
These headphones are some of the best i've ever used. The noise cancelling works great. They don't seem to be suited for heavy music, like Metal, but i haven't played with the EQ yet. But listening to something like Pink Floyd or Steely Dan they sound amazing. They play every detail.
I highly recommend these, good for office use if you want to disconnect from your surroundings for a while.
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These headphones are some of the best i've ever used. The noise cancelling works great. They don't seem to be suited for heavy music, like Metal, but i haven't played with the EQ yet. But listening to something like Pink Floyd or Steely Dan they sound amazing. They play every detail.
I highly recommend these, good for office use if you want to disconnect from your surroundings for a while.
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Surprised to hear that. I find the sound quality underwhelming. Even my old HTC wired earphone sounds better.
I bought it for the noise cancelling though.
maybe not the best but I'm pretty satisfied with this headset,especially the durability of the battery
davidletterboyz said:
Surprised to hear that. I find the sound quality underwhelming. Even my old HTC wired earphone sounds better.
I bought it for the noise cancelling though.
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Sound reproduction is a personal thing however I sincerley fail to see how you find these "Underwelming" I have been buying high end hifi for nearly 50 years and can safely write the Sony's are outstanding and only 'bettered' by the much more expensive Sennheisers. Wired headphones are in a different catagory all together from wirelss. unwise to compare apples with oranges.