Hi all
Not a power user's dilemma I'm afraid but I hope someone can help me out...
What's bugging me is that my wife's LG-P500 incurs a small charge every day because, despite all the settings telling me it should NOT connect to the internet via the mobile network at any time, it somehow still connects - even when wifi is available like at home.
This wouldn't be a big deal normally but because she's on a pre-pay txt only plan her credit gets used up quickly.
My HTC Wildfire uses NO mobile connection at all when I have wifi available. Any ideas why this should be happening with our LG-P500?
Great forums by the way and I'm slightly embarrassed to be raising this probably noob topic here but I can't find an answer anywhere else...
Thanks in advance!
I haven't seen that problem on my P500, with the void echo ROM (the stock firmware didn't stay on the phone long enough for me to try that).
The option to disable it is in:
Settings -> Wireless and network settings -> Mobile networks -> Data enabled (should be unchecked)
Or in the drop-down menu of the notification bar.
I'm not sure about the stock ROM, but on void, an additional icon appears on the notification bar whenever the mobile network is active.
You could also try disabling the option:
Settings -> Accounts & sync settings -> Background data (should be unchecked)
Thanks. I already did all the obvious stuff you mention, having seen it work fine on my Wildfire... Any other ideas out there?
Might this be related to Location Services using Cell tower information ?
Could try turning that off anyway.
If you don't want to use the mobile network for internet access, than go to Settings > Wireless & network settings > Mobile networks > Uncheck Data enabled .
If the network allows you, you can also select Network mode > GSM only, this will also save you some battery. For example, I only use wifi to connect to Internet on my phone, and I also checked the option "Use only 2G networks" (also saves battery), I'm connecting to my operator only for phone calls
What is your Wi-Fi sleep policy settings? Try setting it to Never.
When the phone goes into sleep mode, wifi is turned off to save on battery. May be that's the reason mobile network is getting connected in sleep mode. If u enable wifi policy to never sleep that will drain the battery. You can disable the mobile network from th3 notification bar that should help.
Many thanks for the help guys!
Wifi sleep: good idea, I'll look at that!
Location services: good idea, I'll look at that!
Data enabled: unchecked already.
The problem still strikes me as odd because although I have ALL the same apps (and quite a few more...), I don't have this problem with my little HTC Wildfire...
Update: the only way I could find to resove the issue was to invent and use a nonsense APN...
Wifi sleep was already ticked as "never" by the way.
Thanks again everyone who gave advice.
Yeah, I've also had reason to use an APN named "fake" with a proxy named 'fake", although i use "Z" now to save typing, LOL.
This is one of many things i would do when changing SIMs. I have had one SIM and phone that always set a new APN and this ended up costing me a few bucks in data fees before I re-changed the APN info.
I would also disable the data services, make sure WiFi was on (to provide priority data access) AND enable airplane mode.
Anyway, your experience has inspired me to check more deeply about my data usage. I don't like the idea of my phone doing data without my knowledge while it's in standy.
I prefer to manually choose which connection I would like to use, so if I'm using my data plan such as when I'm out, I go to notification and enable data. I only get 200mb a month so its easier for me than to always keep networks on even when I'm not using them. It also saves on the battery as well.
EDIT: you can check your data usage using 3g watchdog app, find it in android market
It easy to solve. Just install APNdroid
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.google.code.apndroid
It also has a widget. Works very well.
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OK all you tweakers. I have a Sprint TP. I am wondering if there is any software or tweaks that will shut off the 3G network after a specified time of inactivity. There was some free software that I downloaded (Hard drive crashed lost the software), but I think it was designed around, only worked on GPRS/Edge phones. It did not work on mine.
Any suggestions.
I used this instructions http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1892787&postcount=84 to disable EVDO and force 1x. Works a treat. But so far I do not see any improvement. It takes the same ~500mA to keep 1x data connection up, same as for EVDO. not sure how this will stack up during the day... But my prediction is that it will not be noticeable.
BTW, data connection is closed automatically when not in use, as far as I understand. You can see grey arrows icon at the top status bar.
Why would you want to force 1X EVDO is faster
Are you talking about shutting off the data connection if you are then download Advanced Configuration Tool and press Menu - More Settings - Connections - Then click on the Sprint on and set the disconnect time.
Yes, you can use Advanced Config > internet options, to turn the data connection off all the time, always on, or manual.
I use data a lot. But 1x sucks up more battery then EVDO.
I know, because I'm stuck on 1x all the time.
There is a force connection registry hack.
HKLM\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting\HiddenModeOperationPage
Change from 1 to 0
This will open the hidden page in the Phone>options>settings. Scroll down for the Mode of Operation page, and select the one you want.
If you select EVDO only often, it will get annoying clicking the Okay, to the pop up. You can just delete the registry entry for the menu. I cannot recall where it is at the moment. Might be in phone settings. It's called EVDO i belive. Check to make sure the thread says the same thing that the pop up does. Deleting it just gets rid of the box, doesn't stop functionality.
Chanhuff You hit the mark the option in advanced config was exactly what I was looking for. Thanks for the help
This question is for Chanhuff. I used advanced config, and made the change as you noted. Do you know if this effects connectivity based on staying connected to the network, if you are using the network (EVDO) for a longer period of time than the time out. Will it stay on, does the setting relate to inactivity only?
I set a time out for 10 minutes, and it seemed to effect some of my features that will auto update when they are activated (example: the weather feature on the 3D touchflo front end does not seem to want to connect automatically when launched) when I used the setting.
Also in the advanced config tool when you get into the connection settings the choices for sprint, and for phone as modem are: 1. Always on, 2. Enabled, and 3. Off. I am assuming that you have to have the setting for enabled, and then set the time out check box.
Just getting the hang of Advanced Config, and there is Soooo much to learn.
Also does anyone know what the standard time out is if you do not adjust this setting?
TIA.
Hi
I have a issue here.
Whenever I open my athena, it always connect to Data connection automatically ( I am using T-mobile). Even if I try to turn it off, but asap after that it try to connect the data.
(i had the same problem with Kaiser. I could not turn on TOMTOM7 only until I try to turn of Data connection, then asap turn on TT7 it would work).
But actually I only use the phone's calling function.
I don't care about other services from T-mobile, especially I don't know the useness of Data connection in my phone.
So, could u tell me the way to turn it of and only turn on when need.
thanks
Probably the best way is to go to Start > Settings > Connections tab > Connections icon > Advanced tab > Select Networks. Select "My Work Network" for both drop-downs. This should force it to only use wifi and not the cell network data connection. However, it may then turn wifi on - I don't know for certain since I use the cell network for data 99.9% of the time.
You could also try to delete the data connection info. I don't know if it will let you delete all connections.
I don't think there's a way to completely stop it from trying to connect to something, as long as some program is requesting a data connection. So the first option might still give you a dialog box telling you it can't connect, and I'm guessing the second option might ask you to set up a data connection.
I use this little tool. Place it in your SD Card and use File Explorer to create a shortcut in Windows/Start Menu/Programs/"to whatever folder you want". Run the application and disable anything you don't like in TMobile Services.
wow.
thank you friend.
i will use it.
it will help me to keep energy, because when we don't use data connection automatic, it will let the phone stay longer.
Wonderful program
thanks so much
this program is wonderful.
it disable GPRS automatic stupid function that we don't use with Tmobile.
Recommend for other friends.
This program is useful when use it with Kaiser, cos I always have to turn of data connection manual and then asap try to turn on TOMTOM7. Now it is free.
Thanks!
That's a great app! Will save me some $$$.
I am looking for an app that automatically switches off the cellular radio when wifi is connected and switches it back on when wifi loses connection. I'm not talking about the APN data connection which already does that, I'm talking about the regular cell phone connection.
According to my lack of results searching through the forums, Market, and Google, such an app does not exist yet. Currently the best app I've found to do anything remotely like this is the Airplane Mode Wi-Fi app, which is a manual switch and a slightly cumbersome one at that, not nearly good enough for how often I go in and out of wifi.
The reason I ask for this is because I use Google Voice with SIP and a prepaid plan. I want to use SIP as much as possible to save my prepaid minutes for when I really need them. When wifi and cell are both connected with Sipdroid running and I receive a call, they both ring at the same time. To be sure I don't accidentally use prepaid, I usually reject the call and call back over SIP, which is slightly annoying for both me and the caller.
Might someone be willing to create this app? Or better yet, does it already exist and I just wasn't doing the right searches?
You can turn the phone radio off with code but you need to use non-public apis and probably extra permissions. For anyone interested, have a look at RadioInfo.java (Phone Info when selecting an activity with AnyCut).
I'll add the option to the Airplane Mode Wi-fi Tool.
It was simple, I'm testing it right now, then I'll update it in the market as soon as it works properly.
UPDATE: Done, go download "Airplane Mode Wi-Fi Tool" (free) from the market if you'd like to stay updated from there, otherwise install it from the attachment here.
It only enables airplane mode if it successfully connects to a Wi-fi network, if it disconnects, connection gets dropped, or wi-fi gets disabled from the settings or widget, the phone goes back to regular radio mode.
Make sure to check the Preferences and enable/disable it according to your preferences. It's disabled as default.
Enjoy!
Perfect! Airplane Mode Wi-Fi Tool has become one of my top favorite apps with this feature. Thanks!
cant' find it on the market
sorry: I needed to search for the translated name
zorxd said:
is this app still available on market? Can't find it.
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It is, Market link -- Airplane Mode Wi-fi Tool
Also, you might be interested in this one, Market link - AutoAP
I found the application on the market, however it doesn't behave as expected. I have to manually switch to airplane mode, and then enable wifi.
What I would like is a single switch to enable wifi AND disable the cellular radio.
And then a single switch to switch back to cell radio with wifi off.
I will try autoAP, thanks
How hard is it on the battery if I always leave wi-fi on even when not used?
autoap seems just fine, I just have to disable wifi to automatically enable cell radio
thanks
However I think, from a marketing point of view, you should consider a better name. Auto AP sounds like Automatic Access Point to me.
Yeah, works fine on tablets without internal 3G. This provides a battery saver.
Hi,
Is there an app, script or something (which MUST be lightweight for RAM and battery) that would turn off background data when wifi is off?
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If you enabled background data at any point, you would know that 3G and 2G networks are only used when wifi is not connected. By turning it off when wifi is off would effectively make your data connection and plan redudant.
Disabling background data while is not on WiFi
Actualy, this is not a bad and dum question, these days, that many people have limited data, I really don't want my apps and other stuff on the background access the interent and I prefer these to get done on wifi, specialy market which I really don't want it to access the internet and check for updates while I'm driving, I would like this to get done when I'm on wifi, I noticed that my phone used 10 MB / day even if I don't use it myself.
please let me know if such a app exist
You can use DroidWall to get an exhaustive control over apps. Really easy to use, and you can decide app by app if they can get internet acces on 3g, wifi, 3g and wifi or not at all.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.googlecode.droidwall.free
SORRY IGNORE ABOVE!! That is not what you're asking for. But you can use CPU tuner for that https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ch.amana.android.cputuner&hl=en
Go to wireless
Then scroll down and last one choose
Then untick the one wich is ticked
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I've tried each of these suggested options, but none of these have I found satisfactory.
The problem is that one wants to be able to retrieve and send MMS messages, without other data being exchanged (at least in my contract in Sweden, MMS messages are included in the contract, and is not counted as regular data. I'm guessing your contract is under the same premises...). So that rules out the option os switching off the 3G network.
Next, the problem with DroidWall in this situation, is that there is a 0.4kb data leak through the firewall every time the Wi-Fi successfully connects to a wireless network. Don't ask me how or why (I used two or three different apps to ensure that this was the case). Even if this data amount was fairly small, I wasn't satisfied, since I pay a correlating fee for every byte sent or recieved by my phone, and I wanted all other data stopped.
The solution I finally came to was simpler than I imagined. I altered the API (or APN) settings in the "mobile networks" menu found in the network settings in the device menu. I simply accessed the settings for my account and changed API-type (APN-type), so that it only said "MMS" (erase "default" and "supl"). The only flaw with this option is that one has to fill out "default" in this Space again if one actually desires to use 3G data for some reason. Anyway, this has worked solidly for me for a couple of months (no data leaks).
Hope this helps you!
Sincerely, yitzhaq
On Comm Manager I find that if I have my carrier's GPRS settings installed then the data connection will turn itself on whenever some program or other sneakily phones home. The only resolution I can find is the 'wrecking bar solution' of removing the GPRS connection altogether from the connection options.
Unfortunately that means using GPRS, when I occasionally need it, is a very cumbersome process of having to install and then remove the settings each time.
I tried the 'Manila Dial-up enable/disabler' mentioned in another thread, but I find that this, rather than correcting the problem, just duplicates the 'wrecking bar solution' in that with it activated I can't turn GPRS Data on at all. If I deactivate dialup disabler, then as you might expect Data turns on unprompted at the next phone-home incident. Surprisingly though, and rather uselessly, when I reactivate the dialup disabler it doesn't turn Data off! So although well-intentioned this is a rather broken solution. It doesn't achieve the requirement, which is:
Data switch on: GPRS activated.
Data switch off: GPRS deactivated.
I say to myself, SUUURELY there has to be a better answer to this? The situation is a bit like going back to the 90's with analog modems dialling unprompted and racking-up a huge bill. Seems OS programmers never learn from previous design blunders.
Have a look for what doing it, check gps software for updating satellite options, check weather app & such like.
I find GPRS on WM6.5 perfect because can easily find and stop things automatically connecting to data with bit of a hunt & also use likes of dialup enabler disabler or GB-Soft Tweak to auto disconnect connections after short a time as 1 second of zero data.
I have mine setup with GPRS always enabled but not connected, I have no rouge app sneaking a connection but even if did it would auto disconnect meaning minimal data usage charge, also this way I can simply manually check a mail plus have my mail on a schedule & the data usage is absolute minimal thus so is the battery drain due to GPRS data use.
Not so easy on Android or iOS as have to turn data off or it milks your connection constantly.
Do some research & feel free ask more questions as this should be easily sorted .
Also perhaps take a look at the modaco nodata app
http://www.1800pocketpc.com/modaco-nodata-turn-mobile-internet-hspda-gprs-3g-edge-off/
Yet another option is Advanced Config, this has options turn data off & also set time out for auto disconnect ... menu > more settings > connections .
More options are:
Go to: Start -> Settings -> Connections -> Advanced -> Select Networks
then create a new connection without any Modem settings. And select that connection as your default Data connection.
Registry control
In the registry you’ve got the following key:
HKLM\Comm\ConnMgr\Providers\{7C4B7A38-5FF7-4bc1-80F6-5DA7870BB1AA}\Connections
There are all your data connections.
Go inside every data connection and you’ll find a key “Enabled”.
This key has a value 0×1 (1) or 0×0 (0) - 1 means it the selected GPRS setting option & enabled, setting to 0 will disable this GPRS setting.
You could use mortscipt to make a custom toggle for your specific data connection. we can help here in this thread or go to the mortscript thread for help completing a custom data toggle script application.
CABs all added below as a lot of the WM5 to 6.5 stuff is leading to dead links .