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Hello All,
I'm reading this part of forum since a while and I know different pros and cons
of Folio 100, which can be solved mostly by custom rom installation.
But since now I'm finally wondering whether to buy this device or not,
I would like to ask you about quality of it's screen.
I've heard a lot of Folio 100 screen bad angles and it's general
poor quality image, but in the other hand I've heard that this screen is the
same like in the Archos 101 Tablet (which could be my other choice).
And since you all are already using this device, I would like to
know what is your personal opinion and is it really so bad?
Besides all other specs of Folio 100 (maybe not the weight
make it quite worth spending ~540$ for it.
Regards,
headblow
Hi,
Build quality is not so great, and probably you will have some problems... but for the price is kind of good deal... check for gaps on the screen, around the edges.
The screen is bright enought and constrast is fair. The only thing is not so good is viewing angle, but still if you use it for personal use (not to share with other) is quite enough.
I also thought about the archos 101... but when you look at the hw specs (512 MB ram instead of 256, Dual core cpu vs singel core cpu)... the folio wins imo, the image quality and view angles could be better, but for my use (mostly internet (nice flash performance), working with documents, vpn, rdp and ssh connections, (video) conferencing, watching quick video's, music) it's great...
and the build quality, to me it doesn't feel cheap, it's a good deal for the price...
Software is not really an issue, it's fully functional with some little issues when you use FolioMod 1.4...
I still haven't had the chance to get my hands on an archos 101, but I heard that you can feel the screen "bump in" when you press it? something the folio doesn't have, it's just a solid surface which is very sensitive... Also I heard the edges aren't that nice when holding it, the folio had nice rounded edges... Like I said, this is from what I've heard...
I have been using the Folio for about a week now, and both the view angle and the build quality are good. I have no problems when reading a pdf or playing a game.
Screen for personal use is still quite ok. For reading it is fine, but when I read in dark room with black backround(portrait orientation) it starts to reflect a bit, which I do not like.
Overall this is a good PERSONAL device. Also found one German review where Folio screen was marked as having better quality than the one on Archos 101 IT
Considering slower cpu and less ram - archos is losing here
However build quality may still be a question.
Thanks guys for all infos, they help me what decide.
And now Im new Folio 100 user, but unfortunately Ive already found two bugs (Im using Folio Mod 1.4) which Ive read about in other posts:
- folio is waking up from standby,
- device hangs up frequently during normal use,
Besides above its quite nice device, even screen is ok for me
Regards,
headblow
shidima_101 said:
I have been using the Folio for about a week now, and both the view angle and the build quality are good. I have no problems when reading a pdf or playing a game.
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You must be joking, right?
Build quality is poor. If you play close attention you will see that most of the screws are loose and you have a 1-2 mm gap on the right low corner of the screen glass... this will make very easy to break the glass when pressing
If you consider that most of the countries don't have local repair centers, this means that will have to wait several months to have it fixed.
I recommend everyone to check for defects before buying. Specs wise folio is certain a good deal, but you should pay attention to this details...
In my case screen, especially the gap between glass and plastic is the same in each part of screen, and when I slide my finger gently I feel that glass part is a litttle bit lower than plastic part - each place same.
I've paid attention to this when I was buying my device.
But again it has only few days and I hope it want change within time.
Regarding my previous information about wakes & hangs up, it seems I've partial solution. I've installed REGPON wifi KeepAlive app from market - which keeps wifi alive in standby mode and it looks like now everything is fine (expect a bit shorter battery life).
I've read that this can be solution in someone other post, so it's not my idea.
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You must be joking, right?
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Then i guess i have been lucky, because mine doesn't have any of the problems you describe
I guess that its possible that only some of them have this issues...
I want to buy cheap tablet, first think it was chinese epad/ superpad
but now I can buy folio 100 for only 230$ is it worth to buy ?
the screen is so bad ? this is the cheapes tablet I can buy
the price is high and the temptation to buy an ipad2 honestly is present (despite I love droid) I would like to see a flyer vs ipad2 on the tube, in the meanwhile the most important factor for me to make adiscrimination between the two(I would always use my hd2 of course) is the weight..I would like to know by the users if you evaluate him really portable or your little bag burden on your shoulders.
Definitely. If you're concerned with weight and portability, Flyer is the choice. Apart from the screen (scratches, see other thread ) it is solid and lightweight compared to the iPad 1 (which is a few gram heavier than the new one). With the iPad I always needed to decide whether to take it with me or not, even though it is considerably lighter than a notebook or a netbook, but taking the Flyer with you is a no-brainer.
thank you
I really urge to buy something, because at the moment my hd2 has the touch screen that does not work anymore( ) and I cannot wait 4 weeks to repair( maybe I ll find some shop here in adam without assistance) well the price is definetely high, especially considering all the models that are coming out, also if HTC remains for me the best android choice. Ill think thank you
I can definitely attest to forgetting its in my pocket. I put it in my back pocket the day after I bought it and i sat on it and freaked out because i thought i damaged the screen but it was OK.
Bxsteez said:
I can definitely attest to forgetting its in my pocket. I put it in my back pocket the day after I bought it and i sat on it and freaked out because i thought i damaged the screen but it was OK.
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Yes, this device fits in the back pocket of jeans or khakis without a problem. As far as I know, the iPad 2 can't do that trick. I like keeping my devices naked with just a thin film of invisibleshield and screen protector.
If you don't need the pen integration, then by all means there are less expensive 7" models out there. If you're looking for a "boardroom" device, the pen integration is a great, but the HTC won't have as much clout as an iPad.
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I can definitely attest to forgetting its in my pocket. I put it in my back pocket the day after I bought it and i sat on it and freaked out because i thought i damaged the screen but it was OK.
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dude!!! what size is your pocket???? mine doesn't go in any of them....really ! you might have a rapper blue jeans ! (it was a joke! don't get angry ! )
ovigt71 said:
dude!!! what size is your pocket???? mine doesn't go in any of them....really ! you might have a rapper blue jeans ! (it was a joke! don't get angry ! )
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We wear potato sacks over here.
I live in a nudest colony so the only place I carry it is in between my buttcrack :/
Sent from my HTC Flyer P512 using Tapatalk
kcchen said:
Yes, this device fits in the back pocket of jeans or khakis without a problem. As far as I know, the iPad 2 can't do that trick. I like keeping my devices naked with just a thin film of invisibleshield and screen protector.
If you don't need the pen integration, then by all means there are less expensive 7" models out there. If you're looking for a "boardroom" device, the pen integration is a great, but the HTC won't have as much clout as an iPad.
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I really do not need a pen integration if there are not dictionaries inbuilted, since taking notes and recognize them in digital format is something will be probably possible without frustration in 5 years at least, but I feel loyal to htc and I prefer android. But since I have already my incredible hd2 and an outsatanding sony reader, maybe I will choiche archos 7 internet if I ll found a way to connect with my 3G hda2 and swype will go, but do you think really that archos 7 screen is brighter, and touch responsive as htc flyer? otherwise which other 7 inches alternatives you have in mind? I need battery, screen readable outdoor, great touch experience, complete compatibility with droid(without swype I am lost)
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I really do not need a pen integration if there are not dictionaries inbuilted, since taking notes and recognize them in digital format is something will be probably possible without frustration in 5 years at least, but I feel loyal to htc and I prefer android. But since I have already my incredible hd2 and an outsatanding sony reader, maybe I will choiche archos 7 internet if I ll found a way to connect with my 3G hda2 and swype will go, but do you think really that archos 7 screen is brighter, and touch responsive as htc flyer? otherwise which other 7 inches alternatives you have in mind? I need battery, screen readable outdoor, great touch experience, complete compatibility with droid(without swype I am lost)
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The HTC screen is nice. Others have posted that It's fine outdoors. HTC has a few feature called Trace which is very similar to Swype.
The pen integration is only available in certain apps. It's not like the pdas where your handwriting is recognized into letters. What you write on the screen is what you get. More like pen and paper.
I don't think the archos has a capacitive screen. It should connect to your WiFi hotspot with no issue. Its a lot less expensive than the Flyer. Again if pen integration is not necessary the Archos would be fine.
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I really do not need a pen integration if there are not dictionaries inbuilted, since taking notes and recognize them in digital format is something will be probably possible without frustration in 5 years at least, but I feel loyal to htc and I prefer android. But since I have already my incredible hd2 and an outsatanding sony reader, maybe I will choiche archos 7 internet if I ll found a way to connect with my 3G hda2 and swype will go, but do you think really that archos 7 screen is brighter, and touch responsive as htc flyer? otherwise which other 7 inches alternatives you have in mind? I need battery, screen readable outdoor, great touch experience, complete compatibility with droid(without swype I am lost)
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I've never used the archos 7 but the archos 5 was a fantastic media player. I'm referring to the android version. I seriously doubt the screen on the archos 7 is brighter than the flyer. I have yet to take this thing off minimum brightness. It is INSANELY bright!!! Its hard to even give and example. If i had a video camera I would show you a comparison between the Thunderbolt, which has a great screen, and the flyer. It really is crazy!
On the compatiblity with swype i'm not sure but I would mention that swyping on a larger screen has to be more time consuming than using thumb keyboard which gives you tablet keyboard options. That is a personal preference though.
The last part is the battery. I've used quite a few android devices that include the galaxy tab,motorola droid, droid incredible, thunderbolt, and galaxy s (fascinate), and i would say the battery is a little bit better than the galaxy tab and that battery life was great!!! I used the Flyer pretty much all day yesterday at work, I'm an engineer, and I was drawing circuits all day and it was tethered to my thunderbolt all day and when I got home i was still at 40%. So battery life is great!!
I hope that helps.
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The HTC screen is nice. Others have posted that It's fine outdoors. HTC has a few feature called Trace which is very similar to Swype.
The pen integration is only available in certain apps. It's not like the pdas where your handwriting is recognized into letters. What you write on the screen is what you get. More like pen and paper.
I don't think the archos has a capacitive screen. It should connect to your WiFi hotspot with no issue. Its a lot less expensive than the Flyer. Again if pen integration is not necessary the Archos would be fine.
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well I have to think and benchmark, thank you
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dude!!! what size is your pocket???? mine doesn't go in any of them....really ! you might have a rapper blue jeans ! (it was a joke! don't get angry ! )
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Watch this dude slip the Flyer in his back jean pocket.
http://gigaom.com/mobile/video-first-look-at-the-htc-flyer-android-tablet/
Transformer Prime Champagne Gold impressions
Well, as karma has it, I was able to get a 32GB Champagne Gold Transformer Prime, with the dock, last Friday and played with it over the weekend.
I was worried about many of the problems people were reporting and I was slightly afraid when starting up the device, I did not want to see bad light bleeds or dead pixels and so on. While the tablet itself ended up being perfect, I was still hit with a crippling bug of the keyboard dock not being able to be used for typing at all.
I found it almost ironic that I ended up with a serious flaw like that. I really thought that forums give a wrong impression about ASUS quality control, but reality is that it really is very, very bad. It is almost like gambling, chance that you'll get a functioning device without flaws that will annoy you from the very beginning, are very low.
I'll get the device replaced and essentially add to the pile of devices that are being returned to ASUS. But that aside, here are my impressions about the tablet, since I did use the tablet without the keyboard quite a bit.
Champagne Gold is absolutely beautiful in real life. It is a really attractive looking device, it's not as 'white' as Apple's aluminum devices are and is so much better for it with the slight golden gue making it look less clinical. Pictures don't do it justice, Champagne Gold Transformer Prime is the best looking tablet I've held in my hands.
The build is also very sturdy. I am glad I did not go for one of the plastic built tablets of yesteryear as I really love the feel of the tablet when I hold it. It is slightly heavier than I expected but only because I've never used tablets this extensively before.
Of course this design has its drawbacks, such as very weak GPS, but I tend to use my phone for GPS due to assisted GPS from cell towers, which is just much quicker. As for WiFi issues, I did not notice any, but I also did not run any speed tests. I mostly make the tablet use my phone as source of internet and it didn't have any problems doing so.
The first bootup ran Honeycomb and I immediately noticed that it simply did not run smoothly despite quad-core processing power driving it. But I liked the screen and after wiping the screen properly, touch responsiveness was good.
A mere 15 minutes later the device had updated itself to Android 4.0 and I had no stutter or lag issues anymore when moving around the menus or using the browser.
The screen is really beautiful and bright with good contrast. And the external sound is better than I expected. I watched the new 30 Rock episode with girlfriend on a couch and it was a nice experience, much better than trying to hold a laptop comfortably while watching a show. MX video player works very well on Prime, I watched Boardwalk Empire on my way back home on a train and it is a great device for extended viewing. It is amazing how much more natural it feels to watch series or movies on a tablet device like this as opposed to laptop.
Most apps seem to run quite well on Prime. But Android has its drawbacks on tablets, a lot of really great looking games do not have HD versions, making them look less attractive on the screen. Some of my favorites such as truly amazing World of Goo and Cut the Rope worked well on Prime, but their beautiful art was stretched to full screen, making the games look less magical than they felt when I was playing them on my Galaxy Nexus phone (which has a similar resolution to Prime, but far smaller screen).
I tried to use my tablet as a netbook, but without working keyboard I coould not really give it as much of a go as I hoped. But browsing around in the internet was fast and smooth and I really like Android for a tablet OS.
Battery lasted less than I hoped, but I cannot say it was bad since I did not charge it enough times for it to live up to its full potential. But I did not have to charge it while I was using, so it did not cause any battery stress.
I also liked that ASUS does not enforce its things on the user. Majority of pre-installed apps can be disabled and ASUS own enhancements are good for the device. They did not add anything that felt like bloatware.
As for the screen, yes it is certainly a fingerprint magnet. It does not bother me until I start watching a movie or whatnot. Makes me feel like I should clean it up because it simply is dirty (even when hands are less oily and have recently been washed).
Is this the best tablet I have ever used? Not really, iPad 2 is still a better media and content consumption device and I find Prime a much less comfortable to use when held in portrait mode as opposed to iPad 2 (but of course widescreen videos are much better on Prime as a result). But I can really see how the keyboard dock can enhance the Prime experience enough for me to never consider iPad 3, even if it comes out with HD screen and even better battery life.
I should also make additional note about the keyboard dock. I don't find the build of the keyboard dock to be as good as I hoped, it angles up really awkwardly on the Prime when screen is lifted, the back hinge is basically the thing it starts 'resting' on and differently from the rubber it rests on in front of the dock, the back rests on plastic knob-thingies, which have less grip. So on a less sturdy surface or when typing, the device is prone to move a lot more than you'd expect.
To sum things up, ASUS did a good job at everything except quality control and body design for GPS. If it had 3G, better WiFi and functioning GPS I would easily grade it the best tablet ever, but right now I don't see iPad 2 being actually dethroned before the end of this year where Google's rumoured tablet and possibly another Transformer can really kick things up a notch.
2012 is the year of 4G and HD screens on tablets, but I must say I did not really think Prime needs a HD screen. It is not because it would not look more beautiful - it would and I can easily see pixels when reading the web on Prime - but I just think that Android market won't catch up to HD apps before 2013. Today most apps look stretched and the apps that don't, do not seem to need HD anyway.
But yes, a wonderful device, just make sure to not throw away the box and other items so you can quickly refund, since chance has it that it might come with a hardware flaw or two.
Nice well written review.
Got it exchanged and keyboard works now! By the way, those wishing to buy it in Estonia, it seems to be sold downtown in both Euronics and Klick stores. Can't be bought online yet and seems to be only the champagne gold 32gb model.
Thx for the review man
On thing i want to add though: You have to compare the transformer prime to the ipad2 wifi only. If you want to compare it at all. And that device has no gps module at all, so a more or less working gps is still better than none at all.
But those comparisons are fundamentally flawed imho. I buy a device because of its features. iPad and TP offer very different things which results in the situation that there are fans of one device (because it has everything they wish for) and fans of the other one debating which one is better...
In the end there is only "whats better for you" and never "whats better for everyone". For me its clearly the Prime.
Dude i get carried away again. My Prime shall arrive! NOW!
I'm with you with the Champagne Gold color.
The photos online do not give justice to the Champagne Gold color as it is absolutely beautiful in real life.
The Gold hue does not overpower the Aluminum Color and has a rather subtle hint to it.
Excellent review. A good model for all to follow!
My "purplish" grey one is to arrive tomorrow....wish I could have ordered the champagne colour. I'll probably end up putting a skinomi skin on the back as I'm not really into the purple tones...plus, I heard the aluminum scratches easily.
i haven't read the full review... but you found a gold dock in stores? or online? where? i didn't even think it existed.
oasis9389 said:
i haven't read the full review... but you found a gold dock in stores? or online? where? i didn't even think it existed.
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+1. Where is this mythical gold dock? Surely not the one I've had on BB preorder since late November? lol <bangs head into wall>
I'm using a Champagne Prime mated with a Gray dock. I actually like the look better than a matched set. Something to think about if you can't find a Champagne dock...
wynand32 said:
I'm using a Champagne Prime mated with a Gray dock. I actually like the look better than a matched set. Something to think about if you can't find a Champagne dock...
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can you post some pics?
Just as an FYI, your prime screen is capable of 720p hd video playback, just not 1080p. still HD, just not the best HD. Great review though.
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i haven't read the full review... but you found a gold dock in stores? or online? where? i didn't even think it existed.
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ASUS is selling 32GB Champagne Gold TF201's in Estonia, it's the EU version (tablet and dock in one). And it is also localized, with local adapter and US keyboard that has russian letters in the corner (we also have a large number of russians living here).
irishtexmex said:
+1. Where is this mythical gold dock? Surely not the one I've had on BB preorder since late November? lol <bangs head into wall>
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It seems that ASUS did not just do a UK launch, it was an EU launch and a lot of tablets are being sold in various countries, often without advertisements. Here we have Champagne Gold one, sold 2-in-1, dock and tablet. I haven't seen Amethyst Grey being sold anywhere here (and we seem to have two chains selling TF201's without ads at the moment).
It just shows how little this tablet is really known outside these forums and tech world. People don't know about it. Stores don't even know that they have the hottest Android tablet on their shelves.
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Thx for the review man
On thing i want to add though: You have to compare the transformer prime to the ipad2 wifi only. If you want to compare it at all. And that device has no gps module at all, so a more or less working gps is still better than none at all.
But those comparisons are fundamentally flawed imho. I buy a device because of its features. iPad and TP offer very different things which results in the situation that there are fans of one device (because it has everything they wish for) and fans of the other one debating which one is better...
In the end there is only "whats better for you" and never "whats better for everyone". For me its clearly the Prime.
Dude i get carried away again. My Prime shall arrive! NOW!
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Well, true, but it is worth a comparison simply because you would not own a Prime and an iPad 2 together, they overlap in functionality. I will still recommend iPad 2 to anyone who is not a tech person as I believe that today it is a better device for content consumption and don't believe Android will catch up in app-market with HD apps and experience at least until 2013.
I am really neutral in that opinion here, I own an Android 4.0 phone and tablet now, I love Android. But today iPad 2 is a better tablet for an average person even if you don't consider GPS, WiFi quality or 3G existence important.
I would not buy Android for my grandparents, if I had to choose I would buy them iPad 2.
But anyways, I love it. Those of us who know tech and prefer Android, this is a brilliant device if your device does not have issues resulted from bad quality control.
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Just as an FYI, your prime screen is capable of 720p hd video playback, just not 1080p. still HD, just not the best HD. Great review though.
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Thank you for the correction.
I am about to order one, so how is it compared to a laptop? i wanna sell my laptop and use Prime all the time insted, btw how did you use you phones internet? thats called tethering? or some bluetooth function ?
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I am about to order one, so how is it compared to a laptop? i wanna sell my laptop and use Prime all the time insted, btw how did you use you phones internet? thats called tethering? or some bluetooth function ?
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Think you might struggle to use this as a laptop replacement - depending on what you use your laptop for.
Yes, it's called tethering - setting your phone up as a wifi hotspot then connecting your tablet to it. No bluetooth needed. However, some Prime users report issues with this since the ICS update.
And more opinions!
I've had the chance to use the keyboard dock for a while, as well as test out a variety of apps. Some apps are much better in HD on a tablet, this surprised me quite a bit. For example IMDB app is really good on tablet and gMail (and really, all Google apps) is very high quality.
Apps run quickly and without problems. I also haven't noticed any problems with the tablet I got for exchange, no dead pixels. There's faint backlight bleed near one corner but I can not notice it while using a tablet unless brightness setting is too high and screen itself full of black colors.
As for the keyboard. I really love that it is Android focused keyboard. The keys make sense and are intuitive. It really is the first time I've felt comfortable with a keyboard that is similar to old school Windows keyboards, while never making me feel like it is one of those 'modified' PC keyboards. The top row buttons are all very useful, there are no bloated keys.
At first I wished there was 'recent apps' key, but there isn't. Alt+Tab does exist, but since there is no Alt key on the left hand side of the keyboard, you have to use two hands for it (I always Alt+Tab with left hand on my PC). So that's a bit annoying.
Keyboard itself is comfortable to write on if you've used smaller netbooks before. It takes a short time getting used to since at first you expect keys to be further apart, but adjustment does not take long. Feel of the keys is really good and they are well built, I like that spacebar, while long, goes down on both sides if you only press on one side. While it seems simple and does not look as expensive as Macbook Air keyboard, it feels really well built.
The dock also protects the tablet really well. The keys are not elevated on the dock, so they don't touch or get close to tablet screen and leave marks of any kind on the screen in the long run (this happened with my nice Compaq netbook 311C that had a beautiful LED screen that just looked worn thanks to keyboard after a while). Dock is also separated from the tablet with little rubber knobs
The touchpad is basically pointless, I am not sure why it is even needed, but I like that it is there in case I ever would need it. Using screen touch is simply faster, since apps are usually built keeping that in mind. Touchpad is just slower in comparison. I did however find it helpful when writing a lot of text and needing to correct something. It is also great that you can turn the touchpad off so it doesn't activate by accident while you are typing.
Certain apps are also less-keyboard friendly. While typing is supported all around, certain apps are less friendly when it comes to common usability features such as tab key changing selected input field (like going from username to password). You cannot really use the tablet without resorting to touching the screen every now and then, but I must admit that it is better than I originally expected. I actually like having the keyboard on, since on-screen keyboard is really something I don't like to resort to.
I did notice that capacitive pens are not very good on Transformer Prime screen. I have cleaned the screen very well, but capacitive pens are not sensed unless brushing them more noticably against the screen. The pen is a high quality one originally built for iPad 2 by Bamboo, worlds leading company when it comes to graphic tablets. I guess the non-air-pad type capacitive pens would work better though.
For some other things that are not as perfect as they could be, there is a very tiny amount of lag in the system at times when using the keyboard. It is certainly not as responsive as a keyboard should be if you, say, played competitive first person shooter games. But it doesn't really annoy and some apps are better than others at it. This will possibly improve even further with newer Android or firmware updates since it is not a hardware issue at all.
One thing I can tell you though is that TF201 makes quite an impression. I've shown it to two friends and the dock really makes the tablet. It takes away one of the most uncomfortable things about tablets - typing on that awkward screen - as well as offers natural protection without needing a case to protect the screen. Two of my friends who played with it were very impressed. If there's an Android device to wow people who only really know about iPad, it is not good to show the tablet without the dock - since it is just too similar - but the dock helps it really set it apart.
vitalero said:
I am about to order one, so how is it compared to a laptop? i wanna sell my laptop and use Prime all the time insted, btw how did you use you phones internet? thats called tethering? or some bluetooth function ?
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When using it as a replacement for a netbook, the device works really well. But one has to keep in mind that it is a content-consumption device. You can draw sketches here or write essays, but it is really something that you should consider as a replacement for netbook if you mostly watch movies or surf the internet on your netbook. You are still faster with a netbook if you need to do more intensive work.
But pay attention that I said 'netbook', not laptop. Laptop is still a better device, if you don't have a desktop PC, then I suggest keeping laptop around, since at times it is simply needed to 'create' more than consume. You cannot develop on Android, really edit videos or photoshop pictures or do extensive office work.
When it comes to sharing the internet then yes, I have an unlimited data plan on my phone so I can easily tether my 3G connection. It is not as fast as tablet itself having a 3G, but it is still quite good. I don't stream videos on my tablet usually or if I do, I have a better WiFi connection somewhere. For on-the-go use, it works really well.
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Some people also requested I post a picture of the dock that has Russian letters. It is a US dock, but if you select Russian as Android language, you can easily use the dock as well, since it shows where the letters are located. For Estonians (if any of you are out there), there is no Estonian layout supported sadly and from what I was told, there won't be one. Contents of the TF201 box however are Estonian, it has Estonian manual and everything.
Why was this thread moved to 'accessories'?
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Some people also requested I post a picture of the dock that has Russian letters. It is a US dock, but if you select Russian as Android language, you can easily use the dock as well, since it shows where the letters are located. For Estonians (if any of you are out there), there is no Estonian layout supported sadly and from what I was told, there won't be one. Contents of the TF201 box however are Estonian, it has Estonian manual and everything.
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Thanks for this info. But I have a question, sorry my stupidity. What does "it shows where the letters are located" mean? There is no secondary letter set on a US keyboard dock (you said it is a US dock). And the only way in my opinion is - to have a Russian phonetic layout added to ASUS keyboard, so it will be possible to use US dock and type in Russian for those do not remember by heart location of Russian "QWERTY" layout ("ЙЦУКЕН"). I am looking desperately for this possibility - with Russian phonetic layout for ASUS keyboard life will be perfect . I can type Russian using on-screen keyboard but this is not nice when using dock. If you have any info about this - it will be very helpful.
Thanks
EugeneR said:
Thanks for this info. But I have a question, sorry my stupidity. What does "it shows where the letters are located" mean? There is no secondary letter set on a US keyboard dock (you said it is a US dock). And the only way in my opinion is - to have a Russian phonetic layout added to ASUS keyboard, so it will be possible to use US dock and type in Russian for those do not remember by heart location of Russian "QWERTY" layout ("ЙЦУКЕН"). I am looking desperately for this possibility - with Russian phonetic layout for ASUS keyboard life will be perfect . I can type Russian using on-screen keyboard but this is not nice when using dock. If you have any info about this - it will be very helpful.
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In the keyboard dock picture he attached you can see the actual Russian phonetic layout on the buttons, so it's not exactly the US dock, but like a US dock with Russian phonetic layout added to the buttons.
it makes the tablet 3" thick!
beerman99 said:
it makes the tablet 3" thick!
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Id revise this to Don't get it if its your ONLY case. I actualy like using mine with Evernote for coursework. When I dont need the keyboad, I use another case.
beerman99 said:
it makes the tablet 3" thick!
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The keyboard case is about the only way I carry mine. I have a nice laptop that sees almost no use now. Great keyboard btw.
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Thoughts on Keyboard Folio
The main problem for Android for me has been typing. I've spent hours getting used to swipe technology because I hate softkey keyboards, then came along this little keyboard folio.
At first I regretted buying it. I spent $90+ to get it, and as soon as it showed up I was unhappy. But then I started using it. The way that the tablet itself is not connected to the keyboard is a little bit awkward. You only can place the tablet at 3 viewing angles which vary by only a few degrees, rendering them almost useless. The folio case also takes up the full size USB slot, which was one of the best features of it imo. Also, the way it slides in and out of the slot does not seem like it would stand up against a lot of use.
That being said, getting this case literally redefined how I use my device. UX is now no longer a problem at all. The keys are individual, and spaced at a perfect distance so typing on it comes very naturally. Instead of a tablet, it seems like I have an android netbook now. I am a web designer/developer by trade. Using the tablet by itself is perfect for designing, the adobe touch apps are great, however I was never able to code due to the lack of a keyboard. This folio has changed that.
I recognize that half of my excitement over the folio is just the fact that I am using a keyboard with an android device, and that can be achieved simply by plugging in a regular USB keyboard into it, however after a little use, I rarely take the tablet out of the folio unless I am designing.
I like the keyboard. But I have in my bag and use it when I need heavy typing. Very impressed with the quality of it, there is some issues however, if you don't use the native english version. Then you'r at times stuck, with ENG layout, which can be rather annoying.
I find mine indespensible. If I'm not mistaken, it's the fastest for coding in Android from powerup to first keystroke, even on pokey stock ROM. The speed of getting hooked up with BT isn't something I like. The battery drain is a hassle for me, too. Granted, I use it mostly for typing rather useless stuff like this, but I really like it. It's a one-of-a-kind at the moment.
Yes, it's about 1.25 inches (33mm) thick, not counting the magnetic flap closure. The TPT in my Sikai case is 15/16 of an inch (23mm), but it doesn't seem like it thanks to its design. They could have worked a little harder on either the aesthetic or the actual depth. It's definitely not slick looking, but its a great workhorse. For criminy, it's Lenovo. What do you expect?
I think it's a transitional gadget, perhaps ahead of its time. They will get thinner. We will be jealous. We'll get the fourth gen and be smug for a month or two. But for now, we have the only one.
I just got my tablet yesterday, but so far I really like the keyboard folio. I do a lot of posting on various forums as well as document editing for clients. My only complaint with the folio is with the trackpoint. I was hoping it would be a traditional trackpoint. I find myself having to get used to rubbing my finger over the trackpoint instead of just pushing it in the direction I want the mouse to go. However as I use it more and more, I will get used to it.
In the realm of what I really want is a backlit keyboard. I would prefer if it was kind of like the Asus keyboard dock in that it offered additional battery life when in use. That beings said this is a rev 1 product and I am sure in the future things will improve. As it stands now I am about 90% satisfied with it the way it is.
Regarding the tablet in general I wasn't too sure about moving to a 10' device over my Nook tablet, but last night I read a book on it just fine when it was out of the folio, and difference in weight didn't bother me one bit. I love this thing.
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I also bought the keyboard folio and it makes the TPT heavier and thicker. It would only fit(snug) on my 11 inch sleeve case.
I like to use the keyboard folio when I am replying to emails, but it drains the TPT battery faster so I always have it plugged in to a power source.
And the magnets are very strong (compass apks will be useless)
Function keys
Has anyone found a solution to using the Fx keys? (F1-F12) I need them to use some work apps in Citrix. Besides that this keyboard is awesome.
Great for travel
I use mine quite a bit for travel when I don't want to bring a laptop and a tablet. This gives me just enough laptop functionality on the go and tablet when I need it.
Bummer, I wish I'd seen this thread before I ordered my keyboard today. It was on sale on the Australian Lenovo site for AUD$60, reduced from $90 and freight was free. I have a 10" netbook which I have just upgraded with a Vertex SSD but I prefer not to cart it about everywhere with me as it needs to go in my motorcycle backpack. It seems like they will be about the same size in the end. Sigh..
I can't really complain though, I picked up the 16Gb ThinkPad on a 1 hour sale for AUD$249 so in the end it's a pretty cheap solution for an iPad killing android tab, especially now I've upgraded it to ICS which I much prefer over Honeycomb.
All I'm waiting now is for a rooting solution for ICS on this pad, that will be brilliant.
If anyone has one of these they want to sell, i'll take it for a good price.
Better than it just lying around ya?
I received mine. It's not too bad and protects my tab in my backpack.
I don't use it at home unless I am using a citrix client in a window where I am unable to use the native ICS keyboard.
ghirsh said:
I use mine quite a bit for travel when I don't want to bring a laptop and a tablet. This gives me just enough laptop functionality on the go and tablet when I need it.
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Works great when you want to leave the laptop at home.
Hello all.
My gorilla glass on my prime is cracked. And I know I could get it replaced by Asus. My question is since they are going to do a full diagonistic on my prime.
Could they replace the LCD screen to the TF700? I mean would that be even possible.
unlikely. If you ever opened a laptop different screens have different "pinouts" as it were for graphics, power, etc. and there are pages of what are called datasheets explaining the peticulars of the screens. Now you CAN replace similar screens from, lets say an HP laptop into an Acer laptop if they are compatable, or a similar run of differently specd laptops may have the same screen module in them. It makes it easier to do repairs.
However on the tablets there is less standardization. A screen module in, say, the iciona tab wont work in the transformer and vice versa. They are too specialized.
If you could somehow get the datasheets for each screen and rewire the connectors to match properly you would also have to code your own linux drivers and insert them into android just so the tab knows what to do with the screen.
That being said there is one ray of hope: Asus being asus they MAY keep compatability between the three transformer screens, meaning the piniouts and specs might be similar enough that you could replace the 700 screen with one from a 300 or the other way around, the only real way to test is to actually try it.
However you run into other issues too, these things are designed so compact that everything is glued / screwed into the screen or casing. If you open a 300 you will notice it is very different construction than the 201, and since the 700 isnt out yet who knows how they will make that one.
Basically, short answer is no, like 98% but im ok with the screen on the prime its good enough for me.