after a few searches i only found similar topics in forums on other phones (useless) SO
if i have rooted, jited, removed stock apps, but kept stock SE 2.1 platform (i believe thats the word im looking for) can i use the stock "check for updates" option, for example to try to get mediascape updates and official dual touch firmware....
i asked in a few other posts and found that many people installed the XDA dual touch, and then the SE official dual touch over it without any issues.
im not sure if trying to use the SE updates will undo the work i did to my phone
because i absolutly love my phone now, it runs smooth like silk and snappy snappy
Apparently so, I've used a few themes and mods without changing the ROM as such, and been able to upgrade, but if you update via PC then you will have to re-root, etc.
Sent from my X10i using XDA App
If you upgrade using PCC or SEUS then you will lose root/ jit etc.. Doesn't take long to get it all back again though.
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my service provider is atrocious (3mobile Australia) as they still haven't released the proper update for my X10a. I havent really fully understood the process because there is too much information i.e. old/new/contradicting/too difficult/too many problems... so i decided that i might take the plunge and follow this simple one here on this site
Code:
lazeroth4th.blogspot.com/2010/11/as-in-my-previous-post-ive-said-that-i.html
(sorry if im not allowed to post that link....)
heres some questions i have
i was wondering if i use the global generic firmware will that affect me in any way? I've heard of people haveing trouble with mediascape and timescape not working and needing to be installed in complicated methods
after flashing it to the global generic FW will i just be able to use SEUS to upgrade my 1.6 X10 to 2.1?
Will i be able to upgrade my phone as SE rolls out more updates?
will i be able to come back to my Australian firmware? if so, how can i do that?
please bear with my noobishnes....i've spent at least 8 hours looking at different sites and i just wanna make 100% sure i want to do this...
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my service provider is atrocious (3mobile Australia) as they still haven't released the proper update for my X10a. I havent really fully understood the process because there is too much information i.e. old/new/contradicting/too difficult/too many problems... so i decided that i might take the plunge and follow this simple one here on this site
Code:
lazeroth4th.blogspot.com/2010/11/as-in-my-previous-post-ive-said-that-i.html
(sorry if im not allowed to post that link....)
heres some questions i have
i was wondering if i use the global generic firmware will that affect me in any way? I've heard of people haveing trouble with mediascape and timescape not working and needing to be installed in complicated methods
after flashing it to the global generic FW will i just be able to use SEUS to upgrade my 1.6 X10 to 2.1?
Will i be able to upgrade my phone as SE rolls out more updates?
will i be able to come back to my Australian firmware? if so, how can i do that?
please bear with my noobishnes....i've spent at least 8 hours looking at different sites and i just wanna make 100% sure i want to do this...
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In regards to issues with mediascape and timescape i had no issues. Well i never had to issues apart from laggyness at the beginnig which is expected. Youll be able to update as normal via pcc or seus. In terms of Australian firmware you can as long as your rooted, there is a thread in this forum on how to do this.
Sent from my X10i Quadrant 832 using XDA App
anther question sorry......
I found an app called androot that roots my phone in the push of a button without the long process. and it installs something called superuser. is that a viable means of rooting my phone or is there a difference in the result of the two methods...
Hi guys,
I plan to buy on June 14th the Galaxy S2 on Bell Canada network, it will replace my Pre2.
I was wondering if you can recommend me a specific ROM that will get rid of TouchWiz and allow me to run Gingerbread stock. I'm not familiar at all with Android, as I never use it before. That is the main reason why I rather ask the question here instead of searching, as I would not know what to search for.
A little about myself: I'm a Linux head (Redhat advanced + Ubuntu).
Thank you for your your help.
If you realy want to delete touch wiz, you'll have to root your phone otherwise you can't get rid of touch wiz, however you can run a different launcher and having touch wiz on your phone.
Hi Viletung. In WebOS, it takes me about 30 seconds to root the phone.
Yet that retains all the phone settings unchanged, while allowing me to install packages, manipulate data, etc. Is it the same thing with SGS2?
I guess my question is: is it recommended to root the phone? I'm curious if most of Android users root their phone. I know I rooted my Palm Pre/Pre2 phones 5min after I got them. I read on the Internet that certain ROM's are built on stock Gingerbread (without TouchWiz), allowing the phone to save on battery and run much smoother with less used resources. Obviously, if you install a new ROM it will void the warranty.
I'm at a point where I'm learning the basics, so any advice is appreciated.
Hello!
I've installed Lite'ning rom 1.5, which has root access. And to flash it takes about one minute!
When I got this phone, I knew it was possible to root my phone, but I was scared that I would screw something up and break the device.
Now, it's about one month after I got this phone and I must say after rooting the device, deleting some standard Samsung **** (Social Hubs etc..), my SGSII isn't draining battery as it used to do before I deleted some stuff. (Including TouchWiz)
But I have also a JIG, to reset the custom kernel counter, just incase I need my warranty back.
So my final conclusion is; I can't life without root! I like to edit the system icons (battery-, wifi icon and much more).
If you have any questions, I'll try to help you
Rooting, yes do it. It's easy, does no harm, and opens up neat options.
Just get Villainrom which is updated to version 2.0. It's built on android 2.3.4, fixing the 2.3.3 battery drain bug (which occured on all phones running 2.3.3).
If you want your stock gingerbread experience, there is a rom out there which tries to replicate this, but I recommend using a 'better' rom with a custom launcher mimicking Gingerbread. Since there's not a lot of difference than just a different launcher (home-menu).
Most dont root but most are not on XDA and dont know anything bar stock . I would guess most XDA users root .
I'm at a point where I'm learning the basics, so any advice is appreciated.
To a certain extent its been a learning curve for the devs as SGS 2 is different to SGS1 .Expect even more development as the days go by .
jje
Thanks a lot guys for the info.
prodygee said:
Rooting, yes do it. It's easy, does no harm, and opens up neat options.
Just get Villainrom which is updated to version 2.0. It's built on android 2.3.4, fixing the 2.3.3 battery drain bug (which occured on all phones running 2.3.3).
If you want your stock gingerbread experience, there is a rom out there which tries to replicate this, but I recommend using a 'better' rom with a custom launcher mimicking Gingerbread. Since there's not a lot of difference than just a different launcher (home-menu).
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Thanks for the info. I want to have the latest version of Android, I don't really care about Gingerbread. How do updates work on Android (i.e. updating to Ice Cream Sandwich eventually)? On WebOS, updates are done automatically from your carrier or Palm/HP (if you had an unlocked phone like myself). Even if I rooted my phone, I would be able to update the phone firmware with a simple download and retain the rooted aspect of the phone.
About rooting, what did you used? I'm looking at Odin and SuperOneClick... is there something better/safer? One more time, thank you.
Official updates via Kies over PC only .
Rooting is usually lost on update .
Rooting via Chainfire
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
jje
yqed said:
I was wondering if you can recommend me a specific ROM that will get rid of TouchWiz and allow me to run Gingerbread stock.
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Why don't you use it for a least a few seconds before ditching it, there's no aosp gingerbread anyway so you're stuck with it until cm7 comes along.
I want to root the phone and replace the ROM mainly because I heard that TouchWiz is running on top of current OS. I could disable TouchWiz, indeed. The issue is: I do not know how upgrades are performed into phone. From the above posts, I have to do it myself is not an automated download/install like WebOS does it.
So, if a new Android version is released, I have to download it myself? For example, my phone comes with 2.3.3 installed but 2.3.4 is released already. Will my phone ask me to download the latest version automatically upon release? I presume not, I have to download and install it myself. Using logic, that is done by either installing a ROM or getting the upgrade from mobile provider.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
yqed said:
So, if a new Android version is released, I have to download it myself? For example, my phone comes with 2.3.3 installed but 2.3.4 is released already. Will my phone ask me to download the latest version automatically upon release? I presume not, I have to download and install it myself. Using logic, that is done by either installing a ROM or getting the upgrade from mobile provider.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
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That's correct, and is one of the main reasons people root their Androids so that when a new version comes out we can download it straight away and don't have to wait for the carrier to officially release it, which usually takes a lot longer than it does for the devs here to put something together. E.g. there are a few ROMs already in the dev forum based on 2.3.4, but there is not yet any official update.
Thanks guys much appreciated. I will probably have more questions, once I have the phone on hand.
yqed said:
I want to root the phone and replace the ROM mainly because I heard that TouchWiz is running on top of current OS. I could disable TouchWiz, indeed. The issue is: I do not know how upgrades are performed into phone. From the above posts, I have to do it myself is not an automated download/install like WebOS does it.
So, if a new Android version is released, I have to download it myself? For example, my phone comes with 2.3.3 installed but 2.3.4 is released already. Will my phone ask me to download the latest version automatically upon release? I presume not, I have to download and install it myself. Using logic, that is done by either installing a ROM or getting the upgrade from mobile provider.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Android phones get new updates over the air when available, just like web os. Only Samsung does their own thing which is different on the sgs2 than on normal android devices. .
Which is, providing updates through an unnecessary software suite called KIES. You won't see an update available message on your phone.
yqed said:
Hi guys,
I plan to buy on June 14th the Galaxy S2 on Bell Canada network, it will replace my Pre2.
I was wondering if you can recommend me a specific ROM that will get rid of TouchWiz and allow me to run Gingerbread stock. I'm not familiar at all with Android, as I never use it before. That is the main reason why I rather ask the question here instead of searching, as I would not know what to search for.
A little about myself: I'm a Linux head (Redhat advanced + Ubuntu).
Thank you for your your help.
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Just install a launcher fromthe Android Store. There's plenty of good ones like LauncherPro, GX Launcher, 7 launcher. Their all relatively good and fully functional.
OK, I got the phone (16GB model) today from FutureShop and played with it a bit. It is a great phone indeed...
Phone Info (might be useful for devs)
Network: Bell Canada
Model: GT-I9100M
Android Version: 2.3.3
Baseband Version: I9100MUGKG2
Kernel Version: 2.6.35.7-I9100MUGKG2-CL371789 [email protected] #2
Build Number: GINGERBREAD.UGKG2
Now, on with the usual:
Bell bundled the phone with several crap apps like Self Serve, TeleNav GPS (how stupid is that on an Android), Remote PVR, etc.
I will follow your advice and use the phone for now as is, without any fancy stuff done to it (like a new ROM). I would like to get rid of the Bell proprietary apps (physical delete), let me know if is possible. I guess if the phone is rooted it should be easy, the trick is to know how to delete the apps from the phone.
Another question: How do I install the Samsung drivers, without installing the blotted KIES?
I looked for a clean package with SGS2 drivers only but I could not find anything... All I want is to go to Device Manager and point a directory.
I must admit that Android is a totally new experience, coming from WebOS. I'm pretty much lost, heh. I know I sound like a noob, so please forgive me if I ask some simple questions that I can get the answer with a search or just by reading the phone instructions (haven't had the time to read the documentation).
Hi
I'm still quite new to rooting and moddifying my phone so any help would be much appreciated.
Before the gingerbread update come out for my X10i I had rooted my own phone along with a few of my mates phones by folllowing the flashtool guide here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=928343. I also installed the JiT etc to try getting better proformance from my own phone.
Since the update I have gone back to stock so I could update my phone and now have the latest version of flashtool, but waited before rooting anything.
Can anyone supply a list of the stock apps that are safe to remove as I am sure there is probably more now since the old flashtool. Also any ideas on how to get more proformance from my stock ROM (without using a moddified ROM as I am not confident enough to play about with those yet) will be much appreciated
Find on General section, i ever seen one thread talking about this.
It explain every apps you can remove.
Sent from my X10i using XDA App
Ok so I decided to wait for the official uk update to gingerbread through kies to see what it was like. However so far I think the phone was faster on 2.2.1, after the update it just feels really laggy. So what should I do to get the phone running smooth and quicker??
I have tried a couple of task killers but most seem to work for a second then the apps start running again. Should I consider flashing to a custom rom instead, or can I go back to 2.2.1 without flashing??
Either way so far I have found no real improvement in the official 2.3.3 update, if anything its worse.
Any advice would be great, thanks
Froyo better than gingerbread
got to agree with v28,since official update the lock screen takes ages to get to the unlock slide screen,cant send texts with 3g enabled,all screens seem slower than before & battery life seems worse.Has anybody seen an improvement since the upgrade,also does anybody know how to go back to froyo.or is the unofficial kpn/kph better....OR can the guys at cyanogen hurry up
In my opinion, Samsung Official 2.3.4 Gingerbread update is much better than its earlier (OLD) releases.
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got to agree with v28,since official update the lock screen takes ages to get to the unlock slide screen,cant send texts with 3g enabled,all screens seem slower than before & battery life seems worse.Has anybody seen an improvement since the upgrade,also does anybody know how to go back to froyo.or is the unofficial kpn/kph better....OR can the guys at cyanogen hurry up
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The unofficial kpn/kph is better
a little advice, any task killer is unnesessary on android. if stability/speed/improvement is what u want, task killer wouldnt do any good. infact it make things worse. dont treat linux like windows
Ok so as 2.3.4 is not an official update in the uk yet thats not an option. So if I do flash then what rom is best? Has the least bugs and isn't going to leave me with no wi-fi or camera?
Also what should you use to stop all these background memory munching things if not a task killer??
thanks
theres no such thing as "the best rom". its based on ur preference really.
as i said before, dont treat linux like windows
android has its own way of managing task/resource. using task killer would interfere with that behavior resulting in much problem. if u that worried about those background running process, use titanium backup to freeze them
Ok thanks i'll give it a try. Sorry for all the questions just new to all this and the phone's performance seems to have got worse with uk official update.
thanks again
Also does the phone have to be rooted to use titanium, if so how do I root 2.3.3? And if I'm rooting should I just flash it at the same time? Any recommended roms?
thanks
v28 said:
Also does the phone have to be rooted to use titanium, if so how do I root 2.3.3? And if I'm rooting should I just flash it at the same time? Any recommended roms?
thanks
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1165
or u can just flash any custom rom. all of them is prerooted with pretty much all the goodies preinstalled
2.3.3 updateHi
Hi Im just curious as to what the official update for uk is i.e what number kpn kph ??,as i dont seem to be able to get an update,,when using kies on 2.2.1 i still get the no software update message meaning im on the latest,,although goin by your comments maybe im not missing anything special anyway,,also can anyone recomend which of the updates on samfirmware would be best for me in britain,,
thanks in advance
cheers Norrie
So far I would say stick with 2.2.1 untill they improve the current 2.3.3. My phone is saying PDA:KPN PHONE:KP6 CSC:KP1 (CPW) Baseband S5830XWKP6. I had a problem getting the update also, found I had to reinstall kies of samsung website under software for galaxy ace. I also had to change norton antivirus to full permission for samsung update.
Hope this helps, but all I have seen is change in battery icon at the top and the phone running much slower.
much slower is u just use stock, try custom rom. maybe u will be surprise
btw i also need to say this, kies is crap odin is far better in any way by miles
Decided to stick with stock rom in the end(as unsure which custom rom to choose) and hope for an update from samsung. Have factory reset the phone and just turning background data on and off as I need it. Also no longer using a task killer just samsungs own programme monitor. Still lags on unlock but deffinatly running better.
Not finding it quicker like some others are on about though
Hello folks,
Here's what I'm trying to achieve. My two Us are Middle East devices with the SI numbers 1261-8745 (white) and 1261-8746 (black.) As some of you may well know, there was (and still isn't) no "official" ICS upgrade for Mideast-sold U's, so I had to flash ICS manually. I tried several versions of ICS, including Generic_World, but all I got was lag, lag and more lag! Sometimes the problem was so severe that the devices were almost unusable, what with having to reboot several times a day. I mean, heck, my old Xperia Rays, with their inferior hardware, perform much better with their "officially" obtained ICS upgrades - so much so that sometimes I find myself picking them up in the morning and leaving my U's at home!
So, I realized I was much better off with the stock GB that originally was on the devices. Now, I don't have the exact original FTF/kernel that came out of the box, but I'm figuring I should be fine with Generic_World or something similar. Problem is, each time I flash GB (2.3.7), it tells me that an update to ICS is available - which it never did when my phone was still on its original GB, not even through PC Companion. So, what I want is exactly this: to reflash GB and NOT to be notified of the ICS upgrade.
Now, I might have got this all wrong, but from what I've gathered so far, I figured that after flashing the GB rom, I can achieve this by editing the build.prop file and changing the SI numbers to the ones I mentioned above - which should prevent GB from notifying me of the ICS upgrade. Am I correct? Or am I missing something? Please let me know.
Best regards,
Shady
What you can do is that, root your Xperia with the GB f/w and then download an application that is capable of freezing system apps.. Freeze the 'update centre' app and it will not show any notification regarding the update..
Or download any root explorer and delete the same app!
Sent from my Xperia P running CM 10.1
iamdchosen1 said:
What you can do is that, root your Xperia with the GB f/w and then download an application that is capable of freezing system apps.. Freeze the 'update centre' app and it will not show any notification regarding the update..
Or download any root explorer and delete the same app!
Sent from my Xperia P running CM 10.1
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Thanks, but what if I want to do it the hard way? Is there a way to get the phones back to the exact same stock GB that came on them out of the box (i.e. the one for the Middle East) without knowing what that exact version was? Is there a way to "modify" a Generic_World rom to turn it into that?
I also have two other brand new, unmolested U's that are still in lying in their boxes. Is there a way for me to "port" their stock roms into the older ones?
Shady