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Very Important Information For Beginners
/Introduction to Android for SD Cards
Okay, firstly I made this thread because pretty much every new person to this section of the forums is completely lost and unsure what things are or what to even do. We are also sick and tired of threads saying 'how do I get stared' or 'which is the most stable' etc.
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Download your files from here:
You will be accessing these websites quite often so it might pay to bookmark them
Kernel downloads, almost always download the top one, they are updated often (needs extracting): http://glemsom.users.anapnea.net/android2/htc-msm-linux/
Rootfs downloads, download the top one, they aren't updated as often as the kernels above but still quite regularly (also needs extracting): http://files.xdandroid.com/rootfs/
Initrd downloads, rarely updated (don't extract, just rename to initrd.gz) http://files.xdandroid.com/initramfs/ People almost never need to download one of these separately.
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Basic need-to-knows:
Kernel: Your modules/zImage. Your zImage always needs be in the root (first folder) of your android folder on your SD and ALWAYS named zImage, your modules should also be in the root of your android folder named modules-LOTSofNUMBERSandLETTERS.tar.gz never rename your modules. It should always be in .tar.gz EG: modules-2.6.27.46-01276-g6a6a1c1-dirty.tar.gz
Rootfs: Must be in the root of your android folder named rootfs.img
Initrd: Needs to be in the root of your android folder named initrd.gz
Data.img: Generated on the first boot of android and placed in root of android folder. Is a virtual memory file that acts as the phones internal memory for android. Holds all your settings etc. May have to be recreated some times (just by deleting it)
Haret.exe: the file executed by your Windows ROM to kick Windows out of memory and boot android.
system.ext2: Main android file, must be in the root of your android folder. Holds all of your build.
startup.txt: File that instructs android how to start up. Needs to be in the root of your SD. (I will cover this further down)
ts-calibration: A file in the android folder that holds calibration information of the touch screen.
Various Folders: You will see/have/need other various folders created in the root of your SD and in the root of the android folder, such as conf, cache, data, media etc. You usually don't want to delete these.
Root: The root folder of any partition is the "highest" folder in the hierarchy. The root folder contains all other folders and can also contain files. For example, the root folder of the main partition on your computer is probably C:\. The root folder of your DVD or CD drive might be D:\.
Also Known As: "the root"
RIL: Radio interface layer: basically controls your radio (GSM/CDMA network)
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startup.txt
VERY IMPORTANT, your startup.txt must be customized to your device. (mine is a rhod110). You can find your model number under your battery. This file belongs in the folder with your android.
My startup.txt looks like this
Code:
set ramsize 0x10000000
set ramaddr 0x10000000
set mtype 2292
set KERNEL zImage
set initrd initrd.gz
set cmdline "lcd.density=240 msmvkeyb_toggle=off gsensor_axis=2,1,3 pm.sleep_mode=1 rel_path=FRX07 physkeyboard=rhod100_uk acpuclock.oc_freq_khz=710000"
boot
Now I believe you should be able to copy and use this as yours with a few slight modifications. Change rel_path= to wherever your android is stored on your sd, for example when I go to my sd inside the folder frx07 (the root of my android folder) all my android files are there. If your folder was called andboot it would be rel_path=andboot. (without that full stop) Now change your physkeyboard= to your model of your phone, mine is rhod110 but the rhod100_uk keymap is EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE RHOD110 so that's why I use rhod100_uk instead of rhod110 (rhod110 isn't recognised by frx07), this is important to make sure your keys are assigned properly.
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Models of rhod:
From what I know that exists. If you find one not listed, make sure you tell me so I can update the list
rhod110 uses rhod100_uk and it works as it should
These can be used for physkeyboard= in startup.txt (needs updating, some may no longet be supported because F22 hasn't commited old changes)
rhod100_de
rhod100_es
rhod100_fr
rhod100_it
rhod100_nl
rhod100_nordic
rhod100_uk
rhod210
rhod300 (tilt2)
rhod400
rhod500
Getting set up:
Go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1171052 and download the FULL BUNDLE
Other builds exist such as gingerbread but this guide only covers froyo frx07.
Replace/add the Kernel from the downloaded build with the latest one (remember this is the zImage and modules-NUMBERS.tar.gz). Updating is as simple as this, do it often - there is no data loss. See links mentioned above for links. Making sure that the (if there were) old kernel files are all deleted and the new ones are called zImage and modules-NEWdifferentNUMBERS.tar.gz
Replace/add the rootfs.img with the latest one from the link above it should be named rootfs.img.
Remember that the rootfs and kernel are updated quite often and that you should check and update every few days.
Make sure your startup.txt is correct and make sure everything is where it should be in a folder on your computer, then copy the folder to the root of your sd card.
Navigate to this folder using the file explorer in your Windows ROM (YOUR PHONE) and run the Haret.exe
It will then have some writing running down a black screen before booting android (it's just preparation to booting) read it if you want
Android will start and you should leave it about 2-5 minutes before touching anything, it has things running in the background and it will be slow, still setting itself up. Navigate to settings and set up your phone. If anything goes too badly wrong you can always delete data.img and start again! Data.img is the internal memory of the phone, remember? Well, until we get android working on the real internal memory...
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Structure:
My SD card. (with android on it)
I'm running:
kernel: 20110819_183957 http://glemsom.users.anapnea.net/android2/htc-msm-linux/
build: Froyo FRX07http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1171052
rootfs: rootfs-20110816-7e04198.zip from http://files.xdandroid.com/rootfs/
Code:
EncFiltLog.menc
kbd_info
Android
cache
download
tmp
Private
Games
Installs
DCIM
Others
Videos
Images
Sounds
media
frx07
rhodimg.nbh
My android is in frx07
inside my frx07:
Code:
data.img
ts-calibration
startup.txt
modules-2.6.27.46-01348-g9de837f.tar.gz
zImage
haret.exe
initrd.gz
system.ext2
AndroidApps
conf
media
rootfs.img
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Backup/Restore
when you have the need to backup and restore data, look for an app called Titanium Backup. I have never used it but heard it works brilliantly, even backing up your apps! There is a 'donation' version and a free version with not many differences. I suggest you go check it out!
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USB CONNECTIVITY
When your phone is in Android you can not use it like a USB, HTC's drivers will not work and you have to use certain programs until this is implemented.
Windows: Install DroidExplorer this lets you open a terminal (like command prompt) on the phone, lets you browse device adding/deleting files, among other features that are very useful. If that DroidExplorer doesn't pick up your phone (when picked up it will be called 0000000000) install PDAnet on your phone and pc. PDAnet provides the drivers needed to connect the phone. It also lets you use your phone as a modem and you can send SMSs using your computer. Do NOT run PDANET at the same time as DroidExplorer. When PDANET is connected it WILL use your phone for data connections - this is the only warning. The phone is not used for any networking when DroidExplorer is connected.
Mac: Unknown to me (can someone post?)
Linux: Never tried, it is easier than windows (can someone post a method?)
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Overclocking
Do NOT overclock WINMO.
If you want to overclock your device do so at your own risk.
it is as simple as adding "acpuclock.oc_freq_khz=710000" without quotes to your startup.txt cmdline. 710000 (approx 710 mhz) can be swapped for any number but this is practically the highest stable speed achievable. I use 710000, works fine for me.
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Known problems across ALL BUILDS:
Media Player Some tracks might have playing issues. FIX: HERE
Bluetooth is experiemental
Speakerphone static : seemingly random issue
USB plugging the device into a computer, it will be recognised, but not by HTC drivers. FIX: You must use something like DroidExplorer and PDAnet to browse the device and ADB (android debug bridge). See above ^^ (USB tethering is being fixed/has been fixed)
FN LED On keyboard the caps LED works but the FN LED currently does not. FN still works fine
No deep sleep: FIX: disable GPS (or kill the running app causing phone to not sleep)
Failure booting Android: Phone fails to enter android after running haret.exe FIX: Make sure your winmo is NOT overclocked before booting android.
Booting or SD Card related problems: Make sure your card is formatted as FAT32 (reformat as Full Format if it is not working)
More information is available on the wiki, there is also information there if you want to get into development. There is a pretty good FAQ on that wiki too
Remember XDAndroid is not just for this device.
If any of this is wrong or you think something should be updated/changed, please tell me
The CDMA startup should have "board-htcrhodium.is_cdma=1" instead of "...is_gsm=0"
otherwise, looks good!
AkumaX said:
The CDMA startup should have "board-htcrhodium.is_cdma=1" instead of "...is_gsm=0"
otherwise, looks good!
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Indeed, there is no "is_gsm" command .
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Indeed, there is no "is_gsm" command .
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Thanks to both of you, not bad considering I don't even have a cdma phone eh?
anything I need to add? I will tidy it all up soon
Something that might catch out a beginner is if they have an older SD card and it isn't detected by more recent kernels.
Need to include this in the cmdline:
msmsdcc_1bit msmsdcc_fmax=14000000
the.decoy said:
Something that might catch out a beginner is if they have an older SD card and it isn't detected by more recent kernels.
Need to include this in the cmdline:
msmsdcc_1bit msmsdcc_fmax=14000000
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I thought this was squashed in recent kernels?
arrrghh said:
saneksem said:
add that to startup,helped me on 2 gb card
msmsdcc_1bit msmsdcc_fmax=14000000 msmsdcc_nopwrsave
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You don't need this if you're on a newer kernel!!!!
Just update your kernel folks, no need for this in the startup!
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Oh, ok. I must have missed that. I only needed it on my older SD which I haven't tried using for a month or so.
I guess the only thing I would suggest (all minor things) would be maybe to bold/underline keywords, like "kernel", "rootfs", etc.. to differentiate things that may change over time; ex: I'm running FRX05 system.ext2, 3/1/11 rootfs from F22, 3/1/11 zImage/modules (kernel) from arrgghh, etc... And, I guess you "could" be nice and show people what they could edit in the startup.txt, depending on their phone; ex: I'm Sprint, so I would do kb=rhod400, cdma=1, etc..., but for each phone.
I would probably have to do all the different startup.txt's in a different thread, unless I just provide a quick table... I will think about it however I do like the idea about bolding key words.
Most new people don't realize if they have their call/end/windows/back buttons on in winmo, they will stay on while on android and never go off. Might want to put that in your first post before telling them to run haret...
at the end where you say you can just delete the data.img and startover its probably a better idea to say to be patient and reboot the phone once or twice before ditching your data.img ! and creating it is the bulk of the first boot, the linux black screen with the scrolling words section.
you can talk about saving your data.img just incase something goes wrong.
titanium backup is a must
having an app that can save sms when you switch builds (not a big deal for everyone but important to some.)
also let new users know android isn't perfect, things randomly completely mess themselves all the time, don't get discouraged just start fresh with a format and new files when deleting the data.img doesn't work and you'll be just fine.
All I want to know now is if I have helped anyone yet and if they had any problems with any part of it or want me to clarify anything I will be quite happy with such replies ^-^
Is anyone able to provide me with some ETAs of fixes on the problems across all builds listed in the OP? Also are there any more I am not aware of? Oh and if anyone is working on them?
Much Appreciated
ryannathans said:
Is anyone able to provide me with some ETAs of fixes on the problems across all builds listed in the OP? Also are there any more I am not aware of? Oh and if anyone is working on them?
Much Appreciated
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There's never an ETA for anything getting fixed - BT seems close, but who knows the exact date it will be done? As CyanogenMod says, the only rule is don't ask for release dates / ETA. It'll be ready when it's ready.
Some problems are being looked into more than others, but I wouldn't say one in particular has been left out to rot. jb is fixing up BT, entropy is working on GPS fixes, wistilt2 on the RIL of late... Basically devs pickup things that are of an interest to them to fix. There's a lot still to fix/cleanup, so taking it all on alone is a little daunting. Gotta break it down into smaller pieces so it's at least somewhat manageable.
Thanks and a question...
First, thanks for the awesome post - quite helpful...
Second: I haven't mussed with my phone for about a year, for various reasons, the main one being that I was happy with my previous phone and the ROM I finally settled on, the secondary one being that phone died, and I now have a (blech) Sprint TouchPro2 (RHOD400), and am on my sixth (yes, sixth!) brand new TP2 - they keep giving me a new one because of problems (things, like... oh... say, not being able to answer calls... kind of a basic function in a mobile phone, nah?!) And, I've had no interest in futzing with what is already a frustrating and non-functional phone. I was hoping I could upgrade instead of getting another TP2 the last time I brought it in for probs, but they would only downgrade me to worse phones. So... here I am, wanting to put Android on my phone and see if there is any improvement. Or, at the least, be able to utilize some of the decent progz/gamez for Android. I mean, if I can't answer calls, at least I can use it as a handheld gaming system, right?!
Long story short: when I was flashing ROMs to other phones, the instructions explicitly said that you needed to unlock, etc., first. I can't find any data re: if there are steps you must take on your phone to 'prep' it, *before* following the steps in this thread. I've browsed the DB and no luck.
My apologies for being an annoying n00b!
PS: one of my friends said "Tell 'em you're a hawt babe - then they'll help for sure!" (ROFL)
And, thanks, again!
Tynkrrbell said:
Long story short: when I was flashing ROMs to other phones, the instructions explicitly said that you needed to unlock, etc., first. I can't find any data re: if there are steps you must take on your phone to 'prep' it, *before* following the steps in this thread. I've browsed the DB and no luck.
My apologies for being an annoying n00b!
And, thanks, again!
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Well the reason you can't find any info on it, is that it's not required .
These builds run entirely off of the SD (currently - I wouldn't try NAND yet, it's in its infancy) so there's no need to do any HardSPL or anything really to prep - just drop the bundle on your SD card - if it's at the root, run haret.exe and gogogo!
Oi. I get the stupidcard of the day!
That is awesome! Same friend that suggested I mention I am a 'hawt babe' said I should "give boobpr0n" to whomever helped me. You probably wouldn't want to see that, though!
You are heartily appreciated! I'm off to be an Androidite!!!!!!
Tynkrrbell said:
That is awesome! Same friend that suggested I mention I am a 'hawt babe' said I should "give boobpr0n" to whomever helped me. You probably wouldn't want to see that, though!
You are heartily appreciated! I'm off to be an Androidite!!!!!!
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My gf suffices for that .
Hope you enjoy Android!
Tynkrrbell said:
That is awesome! Same friend that suggested I mention I am a 'hawt babe' said I should "give boobpr0n" to whomever helped me. You probably wouldn't want to see that, though!
You are heartily appreciated! I'm off to be an Androidite!!!!!!
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Not to burst any bubbles here, but if you are saying you are a "hawt babe" and give boobpr0n mumbo jumba, you are prolly not one and won't give it anyways.. so nobody will most likely believe you here..
Good luck though~
Well as I'm sure most of you know we released CM7 alpha for the NT on Sunday and it was very warmly received, even after a major bug was found it was still downloaded almost 2000 times by the time I eventually removed the files form download server yesterday (links were removed form thread at about 1200 downloads lol). The feedback is still extremely encouraging and people are itching for the next release.
We’ve been working hard on fixing everything so that the next version we release has a lot less bugs, we’ve fixed the main bug of formatting the xloader and we've fixed a handful over other things causing issue too.
The issues we are having now which we are struggling with are usb sync for media as well as sdcard to a computer (in another thread) and a more important one of market not being able to install larger games / programs if there is an sdcard in. For instance one that I use for testing is Zombie bash, if you have an sdcard in it just won't install.. We've looked up the error online and all the errors point towards deleting a certain file but the problem is that we don't actually have that file so it would appear we have a different issue!
So the time has come for Goncezilla and I to reach out and ask for help, somebody out there probably knows or can debug and find out what the issue is. We're stumped and we don't want to release the next version until that’s fixed!
So please, if anybody can help, drop me a Pm or say something on here and lets get CM7 next alpha version sorted and released !
Is there any way to get an error log of this issue? I am using an app called LogThis and nothing is shown in Logcat.
Probably totally unrelated but on the stock ROM I grabbed a couple of Amazon Freebies the weighed in over 50Meg's each. I wasn't even really interested in them so I carried on about my business and a couple of days later noticed that they never installed. After digging around the "error" was that I DIDN'T have an SD card installed. This struck me as weird because the 1GB user and 12GB B&N partitions should have certainly been enough.
Either way once I popped in an SD card the downloads automatically started and off I went.
Like I said .... probably useless information but I figured I would throw it out there.
arclite00 said:
Is there any way to get an error log of this issue? I am using an app called LogThis and nothing is shown in Logcat.
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Good point, HERE is the logcat.
Mainly it would appear the errors showing are
E/Vold ( 1168): Error opening devmapper (No such file or directory)
E/Vold ( 1168): ASEC device mapping failed (No such file or directory)
and then a few lines on
E/PackageHelper( 2146): Failed to create secure container smdl2tmp1
E/DefContainer( 2146): Failed to create container smdl2tmp1
any help to anybody ?
I'm not too versed in the world of Android development, however this might be useful. LINK 1 LINK 2
Perhaps the permissions to the folders referenced in these articles are incorrect...
scsione889 said:
I'm not too versed in the world of Android development, however this might be useful. LINK 1 LINK 2
Perhaps the permissions to the folders referenced in these articles are incorrect...
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Thanks for trying, that's one of the articles we found but unfortunately we couldn’t get anywhere with it
From the log it appears as though it is unable to create the smdl2tmp1 temp file. So wouldn't it make sense that it would either be permissions of the folder it's going in, or an issue with whatever is trying to create that temp file?
Have we tried not pre-packaging gapps with the ROM to see if that helps?
Quick question, is there a specific file size where the install fails\hangs? Ex installs are okay up to 9 meg files, but anything over, and it fails?
I want to try and download something and replicate the issue.
Disregard...
I had no problem installing Google Earth and other large apps (over 8MB) today, but cannot install Zombie Dash (only 4 and some change) moments ago. Not sure what relavence the size of the app might be having with the install issue...
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I found that the "/mnt/sdcard/.android_secure" folder has 000 permissions. The other folder mentioned in the links I posted (/mnt/secure/asec) has 075 permissions.
I compared this to my phone with fully functional market and found "/mnt/sdcard/.android_secure" has 000 permissions. The asec folder has 175 permissions. Perhaps the execute permissions is the problem? I am unable to change permissions in root explorer to test. I get the "some file systems (e.g. SD card) do not allow permission changes" message.
You considered posting on the Android development section? They may have some more info or guidance with this.
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I'm not thinking it's permissions I think we've messed up and something isn't tuned on in kernel like driver mapper or asec.
Just been unable to find it. Although I'm speaking to somebody now and I think he may have hit on the cure
Okay...
"Size of container 7 MB 5392635 bytes"
I am assuming based on that, that the app is 7 meg?
D/Vold ( 1168): DEVPATH='/devices/virtual/block/loop0'
D/Vold ( 1168): DEVTYPE='disk'
D/Vold ( 1168): MAJOR='7'
D/Vold ( 1168): MINOR='0'
E/PackageHelper( 2146): Failed to create secure container smdl2tmp1
Okay, sp if you eject the SD card, the download works and installs. So that means when you go to download the app, it creates a temp file (same as when you download a file in windows via your web browser), and then once the download completes, the temp file is removed and you have an apk which is automagically installed via android app handler or whatever. IF the SD card is inserted, it tries to create the file on the SD card instead of internal memory. So the issues lies with the SD card itself possibly(?). Have you tried running checkdisk or some disk checking tool on your card? I have had issues in the past where my sd card got corrupted (once after running the partitioning tool in cwm) and I couldn't install large market apps. I ran checkdisk and found errors (i cant remember the exact msgs), but I repartitioned the card and all was well. It is possible with all the partitioning etc you have done to your cards, they have gotten a bit screwy, have you tried swapping out the SD card for a different one?
I just installed gun bros which is a 12meg app, with my sd inserted and mounted, with no issues...I tried to view it in logcat as soon as I hit download, but I didn't see anything pertaining to the market download and install =(
I already re-partitioned my card and went out and bought a new card to try. It's not that.
CWS - Glad to hear you're making some potential progress.
Well, I've done my best to collect info on the error, so based on what others have found, this seems to be what I've learned so far, including the obvious.
-The error we're seeing is "Couldn't install on USB storage or SD card."
-This error seems to have been most often encountered by people using Android 2.2 (Froyo) and derivatives because that version was related to reading a temporary file called "smdl2tmp1.asec." The user workaround in 2.2 was to browse your SD card using ES File Explorer (so that you can see .folders, which are normally hidden), finding the file in either:
/sdcard/.android_secure/smdl2tmp1.asec
OR:
/mnt/secure/asec/smdl2tmp1.asec
and deleting it.
-This apparently has been fixed in 2.3 (Gingerbread). Because Cyanogenmod 7 uses 2.3.4 as a base, it's odd that we're still having this problem then.
So in my exploration of this stuff, here's what I found:
/sdcard/.android_secure has ZERO FILES in it. Ditto for /mnt/secure/asec. On my HTC Hero, both contain plenty of files with .asec extensions. I have no idea what these files are for, but I'm getting the impression that the reason why these .asec files are not appearing has to do with how the current ROM is treating the SD card.
Also, the error doesn't seem to have anything to do with install size. I've tried to install Minecraft Pocket Edition before, it's only 1.57 MB but it will get the error regardless.
Keep in mind that I'm not a programmer, but this is all I've been able to gather.
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Well, I've done my best to collect info on the error, so based on what others have found, this seems to be what we know so far, including the obvious:
-The error we're seeing is "Couldn't install on USB storage or SD card."
-This error seems to have been most often encountered by people using Android 2.2 (Froyo) and derivatives because that version was related to reading a temporary file called "smdl2tmp1.asec." The user workaround in 2.2 was to browse your SD card using ES File Explorer (so that you can see .folders, which are normally hidden), finding the file in either:
/sdcard/.android_secure/smdl2tmp1.asec
OR:
/mnt/secure/asec/smdl2tmp1.asec
and deleting it.
-This apparently has been fixed in 2.3 (Gingerbread). Because Cyanogenmod 7 uses 2.3.4 as a base, it's odd that we're still having this problem then.
So in my exploration of this stuff, here's what I found:
/sdcard/.android_secure has ZERO FILES in it. Ditto for /mnt/secure/asec. On my HTC Hero, both contain plenty of files with .asec extensions. I have no idea what these files are for, but I'm getting the impression that the reason why these .asec files are not appearing has to do with how the current ROM is treating the SD card.
Also, the error doesn't seem to have anything to do with install size. I've tried to install Minecraft Pocket Edition before, it's only 1.57 MB but it will get the error regardless. Of course, ejecting my SD card or unmounting it temporarily allows me to install the app, but that doesn't fix the bug, does it?
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You think some apps check for those .asec files, and since they don't find them, it fails some kind of authentication and bombs out the installation?
Actually, I just checked my shift, and those folders are all blank as well. Hopefully whomever Celtic is talking to knows what's up.
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You think some apps check for those .asec files, and since they don't find them, it fails some kind of authentication and bombs out the installation?
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Yeah, essentially like that. Further down that rabbit hole is what Celtic mentioned:
CelticWebSolutions said:
I think we've messed up and something isn't tuned on in kernel like driver mapper or asec.
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Apps don't seem to be creating .asec files anywhere, and it seems like some apps need .asec files to validate certain information. It seems to have less to do with the size of the app and more with whether or not the app needs to check an .asec file to install or function.
Mike_IronFist said:
Yeah, essentially like that. Further down that rabbit hole is what Celtic mentioned:
Apps don't seem to be creating .asec files anywhere, and it seems like some apps need .asec files to validate certain information. It seems to have less to do with the size of the app and more with whether or not the app needs to check an .asec file to install or function.
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/dev/block/vold/179:17 /mnt/sdcard vfat rw,dirsync,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,uid=1000,gid=1015,fmask=0702,dmask=0702,allow_utime=0020,codepage=cp437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,utf8,errors=remount-ro 0 0
sould be
/dev/block/vold/179:10 (< Check on that) /mnt/sdcard vfat rw,dirsync,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,uid=1000,gid=1015,fmask=0002,dmask=0702,allow_utime=0020,codepage=cp437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,utf8,errors=remount-ro 0 0
also im looking into the fact that /device/virtual/block/loop0 does not exist.
stealthfx said:
Quick question, is there a specific file size where the install fails\hangs? Ex installs are okay up to 9 meg files, but anything over, and it fails?
I want to try and download something and replicate the issue.
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I think the filesize problem is a red herring. It looks to be apps that have "'android:installLocation="preferExternal" in their apk manifest file.
Obviously this is probably used on larger apps more often so it looks like it is tied to the filesize. I have some small apps that give the same error.
Checkout http ://developer.android.com/guide/appendix/install-location.html for more info.
This doesn't necessarily help with the original problem but it might help limit the scope of troubleshooting.
I've got the Telstra RHOD110 and I've tried to install every Android build since about the first stable Froyo release. Every single one of them hangs during the Linux boot sequence.
It seems to be memory related, but past that I've got no clue - I'm an IT professional, but I'm in operations, not development so I'm a little out of my depth with this stuff.
I have NOT done HardSPL yet, but I was under the impression this wasn't necessary for the SD card method (which I wanted to test out before potentially bricking a ~$1000 phone). In theory it's just the standard Telstra WinMo 6.5 ROM...
It's getting a bit frustrating after years of trying this and seeing everyone else talking about how easy it is. I'm using F22's rootfs and TotalCommander isn't showing up any *.csv files in the \windows directory, so I can't even try the GBX0C (2.3.7) test build. Anyone know why my phone seems to be different?
Hi Nukkels lets focus on getting GBX0C running since
Nukkels said:
I have NOT done HardSPL yet,
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First things first: Format the MicroSD you plan to use using the HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool. Just use google to find it. I use version 2.1.8. Perform a FULL format, FAT32.
Now download the package from here: http://files.xdandroid.com/GBX0C_Full_Bundle_2012.04.24.zip and extract all of the files to the root of your SD card
Nukkels said:
I've got the Telstra RHOD110
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This device is identical to the RHOD100_UK so pull the startup.txt out of the STARTUPS\RHOD\RHOD100\ and place it on the root of your storage card.
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I'm using F22's rootfs
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I think I understand why you are trying to use that rootfs since it has some stuff tailor made for Rhod110/Telstra but I don't think it is necessary. Just leave the existing rootfs.img from the GBX0C package, it should work for you.
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TotalCommander isn't showing up any *.csv files in the \windows directory
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I haven't used TotalCommander for a while, but it seems to me that there is an option like "Hide Files in ROM" or "Show Hidden Files" or something like that which is probably preventing you from seeing the .csv's in /Windows/. So find that option and find those files and copy them to the root of your storage card.
If you can't find them I think that GBX0C should still boot as I have booted without any .csv's, there was just no sound in the build. But at least you can see that it is working. In case you absolutely cannot find them, here are my .csv's from rhod100uk: View attachment RHOD100_CSV.zip, unzip to your storage card, which hopefully will get you going.
Okay, now all you need is a touch screen calibration file. If you do not have one here is mine:View attachment ts-calibration.zip
Unzip it to the storage card.
Now you have everything in place on the card, please at this point do not try to edit the startup.txt or anything in /conf/. Lets just get this baby working.
Before you run anything I would set WM to airplane mode, set your backlight control to any level but auto (ie low), and make sure that you are not overclocking your processor in WM.
Now run HaRET.exe from the root of the storage card and cross your fingers mate!
Be patient, first boot can take ~10 minutes sometimes.
EDIT: Also there is a fairly good chance that your thread will get moved to the Android section... if it does and you aren't able to post in it anymore you can PM me.
I just wrote up a huge post and lost it all :crying:
Basically I followed your sintructions step by step and it worked!
I'd never done a FULL format before - that takes hours! I'm guessing this might have been the main issue.
I'll play around over the next few days with F22s rootfs and rhod110 startup parameter, Airplane mode turned on, etc to see if any of that had an impact. I never thought to set backlight to manual or use Airplane mode.
Hopefully I can help find the crucial step I missed, so it can be included in the installation instructions (or at the very least someone might stumble on this thread).
Anyway thanks a tonne for your help, it got me up and running!:good:
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I genuinely hope you didn't pay ~$1000 for this phone... wow.
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Hi Nukkels lets focus on getting GBX0C running since
First things first: Format the MicroSD you plan to use using the HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool. Just use google to find it. I use version 2.1.8. Perform a FULL format, FAT32.
Now download the package from here: http://files.xdandroid.com/GBX0C_Full_Bundle_2012.04.24.zip and extract all of the files to the root of your SD card
This device is identical to the RHOD100_UK so pull the startup.txt out of the STARTUPS\RHOD\RHOD100\ and place it on the root of your storage card.
I think I understand why you are trying to use that rootfs since it has some stuff tailor made for Rhod110/Telstra but I don't think it is necessary. Just leave the existing rootfs.img from the GBX0C package, it should work for you.
I haven't used TotalCommander for a while, but it seems to me that there is an option like "Hide Files in ROM" or "Show Hidden Files" or something like that which is probably preventing you from seeing the .csv's in /Windows/. So find that option and find those files and copy them to the root of your storage card.
If you can't find them I think that GBX0C should still boot as I have booted without any .csv's, there was just no sound in the build. But at least you can see that it is working. In case you absolutely cannot find them, here are my .csv's from rhod100uk: View attachment 1184798, unzip to your storage card, which hopefully will get you going.
Okay, now all you need is a touch screen calibration file. If you do not have one here is mine:View attachment 1184808
Unzip it to the storage card.
Now you have everything in place on the card, please at this point do not try to edit the startup.txt or anything in /conf/. Lets just get this baby working.
Before you run anything I would set WM to airplane mode, set your backlight control to any level but auto (ie low), and make sure that you are not overclocking your processor in WM.
Now run HaRET.exe from the root of the storage card and cross your fingers mate!
Be patient, first boot can take ~10 minutes sometimes.
EDIT: Also there is a fairly good chance that your thread will get moved to the Android section... if it does and you aren't able to post in it anymore you can PM me.
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I tired this on my TILT 2 it wouldnt work...
tru209 said:
I tired this on my TILT 2 it wouldnt work...
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So... what's broken with it? Where does it stop?
Edit - basically, you've gotta give us more to go on. We can't help you with "wouldn't work" - it's simply not enough info. Provide as much as you can - what did you try, what happens when it boots, did anything semi-work, etc etc. Details!
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I tired this on my TILT 2 it wouldnt work...
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Did you bite your tounge just right while dancing backwards to the wizard of OZ soundtrack? That always does it for me when it 'wouldnt work'.
My experience was that the full format using the HP tool is a crucial step. I did a full format using other tools but I had no joy until I did it with the HP tool.
I'm backing up/cleaning out my phone's storage and I happened across a weird quirk of file copying. If a file name (and associated folder location on my PC) is too long, the file will not copy. This isn't terribly surprising. What is a bit surprising is that the copy operation simply stops, throws no errors, and gives no indication that anything went wrong or on which file things went wrong.
I haven't done any extensive testing of this, but I did some searching and it seems historically some others might have run into this issue (example: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2350831)
Not sure if there's a great solution other than modifying offending filenames, but I do find it really strange that there's not even a warning thrown when this happens. Running Win 8, Verizon Note 3 4.4.2 (Jasmine ROM, though I don't think that affects anything).
The multi user and guest account feature is not available on either of the two recent releases of Lollipop for the Z3v. I did some research and it appears this is the case, not only on other Verizon handsets like the Droid Turbo and the Galaxy S5 / S6, but a few other non-VZW devices as well. I'm not sure why it was removed but apparently it's just hidden. It can be enabled and I followed the instructions for doing this for the various other devices and can report that it works for our Z3v (see attached screenshots).
I've kind of cleaned up the instructions and put them below. Usual disclaimer - I'm not responsible for anything that may happen to you or your cat if you choose to do the following. You DO need root access to edit and write to the system file.
** To be safe, please make a backup of your phone and/or a copy of the build.prop file that you are going to edit.
Get ES File Explorer. Run it and enable Root Explorer setting. (You may be able to use any file explorer and editor with root access but this is used most in the instructions and works.)
With ES File Explorer, go to device/system/ and find the file: build.prop
Choose to edit it with ES Note Editor.
Scroll to the end of the file and type in the following:
fw.max_users=5
fw.show_multiuserui=1
Save the file.
I'm not sure if the next step is required but it was in half the instructions I saw, and I did it myself: Click and hold the file, go to Properties, and then change the permissions to Read, Write & Execute. [all three]
Reboot your phone.
When you're up and running, access multi user mode by pulling down your notification shade and then clicking on your user icon at the top right corner.
Notes so far:
A guest user does not have access to the original user's files on the internal drive - the guest user has their own file directory. The guest CAN access the External SD Card, though.
Therefore, an app such as Movie Creator can and will create a "highlight" movie that is composed from photos that are saved on the external SD Card. Just keep this in mind as far as privacy.
There is a per user option that lets you decide whether or not the additional users can use the phone and access the text messages. If you disable this ability, while they cannot open the phone app to make a call, the CAN receive an incoming call.
You can find out more about the nuances of additional users with your Google Fu.
Enjoy!
Wow! Great work!
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Wow! Great work!
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Thanks! I really wanted this feature and it seemed like not many people care too much about it. It's my way of circumventing the awful permissions control we currently have in Android. That is, there are apps I want to use but refuse to install because of their overreaching permission requirements (contacts, etc) and so I can now create a second user with a new "dummy" Gmail account that has no sensitive information and install these apps without worrying.
By the way, something neat I figured out about this. Additional user accounts are not allowed to side load apps (the toggle to install from unknown sources is grayed out). I figured out that if the main user / owner restores an app through Titanium Backup, any other currently existing user will have it installed for some reason. I don't know why this happens but it's a neat glitch that gets you around that restriction.
Well I think most people simply don't let others touch their phones and so don't have a use for multiple user accounts. I find that my phone, as big as the screen is, is becoming more and more of a computer / tablet replacement. I like the idea of a multiuser functionality, but mostly to hide my own stuff. I'll silk never let anyone else touch my phone!
The use for multi-user that I've seen that makes the most sense is people with children. They will create a user profile for the child so they can't get into any of the parent's stuff or settings. That or the guest profile which will let them do whatever the heck they want without screwing up the phone.
Aside from that I have read that devs find the feature very useful for testing. Heck, that's not a bad idea to install and test apps, in general.
uh oh.
Well something didnt work. Maybe a certain build I have to be on or what. I followed the instructions to a t. Now stuck on endless boot loop. Only bad part is I'm on as hotel room working out of town without a laptop Or pc to fix it. I used a one click root just today and didn't install a proper recovery. Any thoughts
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Well something didnt work. Maybe a certain build I have to be on or what. I followed the instructions to a t. Now stuck on endless boot loop. Only bad part is I'm on as hotel room working out of town without a laptop Or pc to fix it. I used a one click root just today and didn't install a proper recovery. Any thoughts
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I had a problem with this also twice cause I'm always doing stupid things to my phone my guess is you didn't change the system to r/w but modified it anyway or you used a editor that would let you input the correct values I used s manager I think. As far as getting your phone working you could try safe mode or maybe a factory reset if you can hold power and the volume button down and enter recovery.
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I had a problem with this also twice cause I'm always doing stupid things to my phone my guess is you didn't change the system to r/w but modified it anyway or you used a editor that would let you input the correct values I used s manager I think. As far as getting your phone working you could try safe mode or maybe a factory reset if you can hold power and the volume button down and enter recovery.
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I believe the mistake was made when i changed the permissions per instructions. I finially got to my house and im using adb to freeze the loop then going to push a script over to fix the permissions. I will update when i get it done and I will post my fix. Also I used ES file explorer, which i have already used it for years now. Never had anything like this happen before. it just baffles me. I have never got any instructions off of XDA that led to any malfuntion of my phone. But oh well, sh!+ happens.
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I believe the mistake was made when i changed the permissions per instructions. I finially got to my house and im using adb to freeze the loop then going to push a script over to fix the permissions. I will update when i get it done and I will post my fix. Also I used ES file explorer, which i have already used it for years now. Never had anything like this happen before. it just baffles me. I have never got any instructions off of XDA that led to any malfuntion of my phone. But oh well, sh!+ happens.
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Hey! I'm so sorry! I got a couple of new phones (Droid Maxx 2 and LG G4) and have been using those phones so I haven't been checking these forums like I was when I just had the Z3v. Really sorry to hear that you ran into that kind of trouble . Thing is, the instructions above are culled from 4 or 5 different sets of instructions for various devices that I found across the web. I performed them step by step myself while cross referencing them to each other and combined them all to the instruction set above as I did it. Did you ever fix it with the method you mentioned? I'm curious if it was the permissions thing (odd, because it worked for me).
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Hey! I'm so sorry! I got a couple of new phones (Droid Maxx 2 and LG G4) and have been using those phones so I haven't been checking these forums like I was when I just had the Z3v. Really sorry to hear that you ran into that kind of trouble . Thing is, the instructions above are culled from 4 or 5 different sets of instructions for various devices that I found across the web. I performed them step by step myself while cross referencing them to each other and combined them all to the instruction set above as I did it. Did you ever fix it with the method you mentioned? I'm curious if it was the permissions thing (odd, because it worked for me).
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it is guys if done right your system needs to be switched to r/w then go back to r/o after modifying the build prop if you modify in r/o you will get bootloop to a hard brick it depends.
Jurassic Pork Fried Rice said:
Hey! I'm so sorry! I got a couple of new phones (Droid Maxx 2 and LG G4) and have been using those phones so I haven't been checking these forums like I was when I just had the Z3v. Really sorry to hear that you ran into that kind of trouble . Thing is, the instructions above are culled from 4 or 5 different sets of instructions for various devices that I found across the web. I performed them step by step myself while cross referencing them to each other and combined them all to the instruction set above as I did it. Did you ever fix it with the method you mentioned? I'm curious if it was the permissions thing (odd, because it worked for me).
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Well I kinda fixed it. I went and bought a HTC M9. Lol but not yet, I'm still working on it. I have found scripts to run, even a specific build.prop fix to push, but I have windows 10 and couldn't get adb to find the device. Plus I'm a little rusty. So I broke out my old windows 7 laptop I have used just for rooting an modding phones and tablets. I did get adb and fastboot to find it once. Then some reason lost it. I didn't have it ready to go. But I'm almost 100 percent sure I can get it. Just need to play around with it a little bit more. Having trouble with drivers etc. I will let you know when I have it.
And didn't really hurt my feelings getting the phone I truly want. I never had problems with HTC since I was flashing roms on my old window phones. I just want my pictures I cannot replace.
"Run it and enable Root Explorer setting. (You may be able to use any file explorer and editor with root access but this is used most in the instructions and works.)"
Alas- I am not rooted, and therefore can not enable "Root Explorer" option. Unless someone has some other suggestions- I think I can't do this unless I'm rooted.
Well this is probably what I did to brick my first z3v.
I don't suggest anyone do this at all. There does seem to be an issue with the permission setting on the build.prop file. If it's not reset correctly after editing, you'll get stuck in a loop or worse. I'm stuck in bootloop, but can get into recovery. I made a backup hoping to learn how to edit the build.prop (delete it and rename the copied original to set it back as it was). But I can't even run the original zip that GigaSPX made up for us. (I don't have a backup like I hought I did.)
Anytime I try to install the flashable prerooted zip it tells me it's done after 2 seconds and says;
set_perm: some changes failed
I'm typing this on my z2 tablet, which has the multi user feature enabled. I'm going to see if RootExplorer will give me some clues as to why this doesn't work.
In the mean time I'm hoping someone can help me out?
If love to get this feature to work, but it has to be safe.
Just checked the build.prop on my tablet and got no clue.
AddictedToGlass said:
Well this is probably what I did to brick my first z3v.
I don't suggest anyone do this at all. There does seem to be an issue with the permission setting on the build.prop file. If it's not reset correctly after editing, you'll get stuck in a loop or worse. I'm stuck in bootloop, but can get into recovery. I made a backup hoping to learn how to edit the build.prop (delete it and rename the copied original to set it back as it was). But I can't even run the original zip that GigaSPX made up for us. (I don't have a backup like I hought I did.)
Anytime I try to install the flashable prerooted zip it tells me it's done after 2 seconds and says;
set_perm: some changes failed
I'm typing this on my z2 tablet, which has the multi user feature enabled. I'm going to see if RootExplorer will give me some clues as to why this doesn't work.
In the mean time I'm hoping someone can help me out?
If love to get this feature to work, but it has to be safe.
Just checked the build.prop on my tablet and got no clue.
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a backup usually means going into your twrp and hit the back up button and make a copy of your system including data and all that. This is mandatory before messing with the build prop. If you want Pm me your build prop and I will send it back to you. With multi user enabled.
Yup, I know what a back-up is and how to do it, and I know it's a must before messing with the build.prop. I just really thought I had done it recently...
-and I had! But I forgot that a few days ago I bought myself a Christmas present; a 200 Gb micro SD, and copied most of the contents to the new card from my old one. I chose not to copy the backup because I had planned to make some changes and create a more recent backup. Never happened though because I got side tracked loading music and such. Lol!
So I'm all back together, but would still like to play with this feature. So I'm going to give it another shot.
A guest user does not have access to the original user's files on the internal drive - the guest user has their own file directory. The guest CAN access the External SD Card, though.
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Perhaps the wrong thread but: enabled multi user on a Cube T8 only to find that guest and other user can access INTERNAL sd but not external sd. I'd rather have it the other way round. So the kids (other users) can use the whole of 32 GB sd card rather than me having to share the small internal sd with them.
Any ideas how to fix this? Phablet is not rooted btw.
got bootloop..... but i'm safe as i've backup.... through recovery..
I've inserted two lines and fell in bootloop
Thanks bro.. working....!!!! but second step is not needed...