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How different is the Electrify from the Photon? Is it a world phone as well. Does it have the WCDMA band 2100? Would i be able to use it for GSM and 3G in India?
slightee said:
How different is the Electrify from the Photon? Is it a world phone as well. Does it have the WCDMA band 2100? Would i be able to use it for GSM and 3G in India?
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as far as i know electrify is cdma only, it doesn't support gsm networks
Actually it does have gsm
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Yup only difference in the photon is the wimax radio. Photon comes with sprint sim, electrify doesn't have anything preinstalled. For giggles I took my sprint sim and put it in my brothers electrify, sadly it didn't really do anything other than pop up a 'sim inserted' notification.
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From my understanding if you got a sim card from a carrier in India and put it in the phone it will work. Other than a few carrier specific things they are pretty much the same phone.
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Kcarpenter said:
Yup only difference in the photon is the wimax radio. Photon comes with sprint sim, electrify doesn't have anything preinstalled. For giggles I took my sprint sim and put it in my brothers electrify, sadly it didn't really do anything other than pop up a 'sim inserted' notification.
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So basically, its an inferior version of the Photon. Wonder why anyone would buy it? Is it substantially cheaper?
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So basically, its an inferior version of the Photon. Wonder why anyone would buy it? Is it substantially cheaper?
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Its not that it's inferior. US cellular doesn't use sim cards in any of their phones son there is no need for one. Sprint uses sim cards and therefore the photon has to have one to work on their network. Put one in the electrify and activate it and it will work. Not sure of how to activate it though. Other than that and the radio differences their the same phone spec for spec.
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From the android central review I think the led actually works right and some other bit of software actually works right.
And sprint does not use sim cards in the us.
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Its not that it's inferior. US cellular doesn't use sim cards in any of their phones son there is no need for one. Sprint uses sim cards and therefore the photon has to have one to work on their network. Put one in the electrify and activate it and it will work. Not sure of how to activate it though. Other than that and the radio differences their the same phone spec for spec.
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Sprint doesn't use SIM cards, they have SIM cards to make international roaming easier. Its a roaming agreement with another carrier so you don't have to buy a card in the country you visit and the international data and voice is just billed straight to your regular bill. Only issue with this is price, its much cheaper to buy a prepay plan where ever you go than use sprints roaming agreements. US cellular sees this fact a chooses to not offer international roaming, only offer a phone that makes it possible.
Like I said the only difference is in the wimax radio, which is useless even in 95% of the US.
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Verizon and Sprint don't use simcard. Just take a evo or epic touch and you will see no simcard slot. But some phones have a simcard slot for European traveling. Att t mobile use simcards only.
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Its not that it's inferior. US cellular doesn't use sim cards in any of their phones son there is no need for one. Sprint uses sim cards and therefore the photon has to have one to work on their network. Put one in the electrify and activate it and it will work. Not sure of how to activate it though. Other than that and the radio differences their the same phone spec for spec.
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Sounds to me like its still inferior. I understand the SIM card is only included for convience.
But the Electrify still lacks Wimax supports making it an inferior phone. Why buy an inferior phone? Is there a big price difference?
Have bought one from ebay. Price is cheaper by about $40 to the Photon. Planning to use the phone on GSM, so lack of Wimax does not worry me.They support the WCDMA band 2100, which is the 3G band for all GSM carriers in India. 4G will take an eternity to come to India Does anyone use the Electrify on GSM over here? Does it take a long time to boot like the Photon? If so, is there a work around like for the Photon?
Thanks . . Planning to buy it in India.
Dame pbone just no 4 g and a silver metalic edging
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Isn't wimax obsolete anyway? Everyone supporting it dumped it and left sprint at the alter. Only a few cities got duped into building networks. My son bought a 3D a few months ago and is upset that he has no hope for any high speed support beyond 3g/ 4g or wifi in less then 5% of US, and that percentage should be shrinking not growing. Its like saying a bluray player is inferior to dual HD DVD/bluray player.
so from what im reading if i understand right even if you live in an area that has 4g for sprint with the electrify you cant use it? so the motorola photon 4g mb855 doesnt connect to 4g? or doesnt connect to sprint carrier?
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so from what im reading if i understand right even if you live in an area that has 4g for sprint with the electrify you cant use it? so the motorola photon 4g mb855 doesnt connect to 4g? or doesnt connect to sprint carrier?
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The Electrify doesn't have a WiMax radio. It has no way to connect to any 4g signal at all. You can be saturated in 4g signal, but it wont make its 3g any faster.
The Photon is only capable of connecting to Sprint/ClearaWire WiMax 4G. No ATT or VZW LTE 4G.
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it'd be nice after US Cellular gets 4g we can get the 4g radio put in...b/c I know theres a space for it.
IBMguy said:
it'd be nice after US Cellular gets 4g we can get the 4g radio put in...b/c I know theres a space for it.
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US Cellular starts to roll out 4G early next year, By the time it gets to all USCC Markets the Electrify will be old tech and no-one will want it by then....
Seriously...
Oh I agree with you, uscc is usually slow like that.
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I love rezound very much, but you won't get a phone that you can not call and using internet. I'm with Vodafone AU, and the phone works for Verizon with LTE 4G.
Are there anyway to make it work with WCDMA? Any way to unlock or hack it?
Big thanks! Please help me become one of Rezounders in the future!
I want to help you ，but I dont know how to do ...
xutienan9520 said:
I love rezound very much, but you won't get a phone that you can not call and using internet. I'm with Vodafone AU, and the phone works for Verizon with LTE 4G.
Are there anyway to make it work with WCDMA? Any way to unlock or hack it?
Big thanks! Please help me become one of Rezounders in the future!
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I'm not an expert or a dev, but I know for sure that we can't do much at all in the way of hacking until s-off is achieved. Furthermore, I could be wrong but I don't think the rezound supports wcdma.
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The Rezound only operates on the CDMA2000 and LTE standards on top of operating only at specific bands.
Despite the similar name, WCDMA is not the same as "CDMA" - it is a GSM variant and is therefore not compatible with the Rezound, as the Rezound does not support nor contain a radio for that standard.
so then what is the diff between;
lte/voice
lte global
lte/cdma(auto)
I'm in a spot where Verizon says isn't the best coverage; although I'm constantly between 2-3 lte bars. is one superior than others
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I had 3g goin while talking on the phone.....if that helps....
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No, this phone can not be used as a world phone. You will be unable to use it on either CDMA or LTE. Not to mention, you have to have a Verizon LTE SIM to program the phone.
Next time, search! The answers to all these simple questions are in the forum.
Hello everybody I am from Romania, Europe I want to buy from ebay an htc rezound. I have htc desire hd.
I have one big question , I don't know if this is the right place to ask but I will.
If my rezound is locked on verzion I can make it SIM FREE ( UNLOCK it or something like it I want to use another sim not a verzion one)
Is this possible anyone can help me regarding this problem?
No, The Simcard in the Rezound is only so it can access Verizons LTE 700Mhz Channel.. It does not have a regular GSM radio.
So no you can not use it over seas or on any other network
To bad thx for your quick reply
Any Lte device in America will be incompatible. Maybe an at&t phone will work but you could only get 3g or hspa+.
Lte world phones won't be out for quite a while.
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Actually... maybe you can do it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21029021&postcount=20
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Actually... maybe you can do it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21029021&postcount=20
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I don't know what to think I may wait for some sure unlocking methods thx all of you and especialy feralicious for helping me
You're welcome. Hope it works out for you.
Is it true that I can put a at&t sim card in my t-mobile amaze and get 3 and 4 g coverage?Does this phone have LTE bands in it?and I was told thY the white amaze is better than the black one why?
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Mesaman2012 said:
Is it true that I can put a at&t sim card in my t-mobile amaze and get 3 and 4 g coverage?Does this phone have LTE bands in it?and I was told thY the white amaze is better than the black one why?
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Both white and black are the same, yes you will get 3G and 4G coverage on at&t since 4G is hspa and at&t supports hspa.
No this phone doesn't have lte and just a heads up, though you will get 4G, it might not be as fast t-mobile from what I've heard, their HSPA isn't that fast but still pretty decent.
I appreciate that.
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Is this phone pentaband? If it is specific for TMO bands only, you will only get edge on AT&T as I understand it......
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Is this phone pentaband? If it is specific for TMO bands only, you will only get edge on AT&T as I understand it......
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It has the 1900 band, at&t's HSPA network runs on that band.
What about 3g?
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gagb1967 said:
What about 3g?
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HSPA is 3G, HSPA+ is 4G, the iPhone has both HSPA and HSPA+, which works on the iPhone's 1900 band, get where I'm going with this?
I'm using my Amaze on at&t through straight talk and it's 4g.
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Using my amaze on straight talk at&t towers, works great with 3g/4g.
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redeyss said:
Using my amaze on straight talk at&t towers, works great with 3g/4g.
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Can you post some screenshots of your speed tests? I didn't think straight talk supported 4G.
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Can you post some screenshots of your speed tests? I didn't think straight talk supported 4G.
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Two people made this claim, doubt they would both be lying.
Dark Ellipse said:
Can you post some screenshots of your speed tests? I didn't think straight talk supported 4G.
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ST does support 4G but right now my tower is under a full noon load.
12 noon speed is awful but 12 midnight speed is great.
At&t doesn't keep up on maintenance with these towers.
Are you forced into an at&t data plan?
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Are you forced into an at&t data plan?
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Don't think they can force you into one if you bring your own device.
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Don't think they can force you into one if you bring your own device.
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Dark Nightmare said:
Don't think they can force you into one if you bring your own device.
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I used to work for Business End User Care for AT&T. As of the time I left (november), if you placed your sim in a smartphone and used it for about a day the system would add the lowest data plan and send you a text message indicating it had been added to your account. Even if you were using someone's phone while your "feature phone" wad being replaced, it was required. I've had to read that section of the TOS to many, many angry people. I would call and confirm just to be safe.
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Biohazard0289 said:
I used to work for Business End User Care for AT&T. As of the time I left (november), if you placed your sim in a smartphone and used it for about a day the system would add the lowest data plan and send you a text message indicating it had been added to your account. Even if you were using someone's phone while your "feature phone" wad being replaced, it was required. I've had to read that section of the TOS to many, many angry people. I would call and confirm just to be safe.
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I didnt know that, wow ATT sucks
That's hot I didn't now we could do all these things to a device. I had idea until my friend mentioned it sweet.
Biohazard0289 said:
I used to work for Business End User Care for AT&T. As of the time I left (november), if you placed your sim in a smartphone and used it for about a day the system would add the lowest data plan and send you a text message indicating it had been added to your account. Even if you were using someone's phone while your "feature phone" wad being replaced, it was required. I've had to read that section of the TOS to many, many angry people. I would call and confirm just to be safe.
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DO NOT CALL to ask..... as they won't know the answer, and might put a note on your account to force a data plan(well, you could call and ask on someone else's phone without giving your account number)
the primary way (so far that I've seen) that AT&T detects your smartphone is via IMEI. Secondary might be you using >100GB/month, connecting to their 4G APN settings, going to a store for help and letting the customer rep see that you have a smartphone
does AT&T have your IMEI? probably not.... AT&T has IMEI of all of their smartphones, so you can't use an AT&T smartphone. You can try using an (unlocked) t-mobile phone, but might not support the right 3G/4G bands that AT&T use. You can try international phones, canda phones(from Bell, Telus...). WARNING>>>. AT&T might have your IMEI because the manufacture gave them the IMEI(See Google Nexus phones), inference from branded phones that they carry(eg Phone is sold/branded by AT&T and t-mobile... AT&T gets a list of their phone IMEIs that might include t-mobile's IMEIs), screwups(Samsung Note overseas was misentered as a tablet on AT&T's network, white i9100 Galaxy SII is misentered as a Blackberry on AT&T's network)
The link at the end of this post gives a guide to what phones are 100% compatible(3G/4G on 850/1900) on AT&T's network.
According to this, the T-Mobile Amaze 4G is compatible with AT&T 3G/4G, but I have some confusion on the 850/1900 mhz band for the 3G/4G data, trying to sort it out(last few posts on that thread)
Guide to what phones are 100% compatible with AT&T's network
anyways, quick update
got a T-mobile Amaze 4G to play with
(with unlocked bootloader, S-Off, Super CID and SIM unlock, all available on this forum), works on AT&T 4G (HSDPA)
speeds right now ~ 1000 kbits/s up/down, hard to test because my location is spotty
I'll try and keep this from turning into a book.
Basically I have a HTC Thunderbolt right now. It is being replaced under the extended warranty that I have with Verizon. Since they don't have any more T-bolts they are sending me a HTC Incredible 4G under my total equipment protection policy.
I have already ordered a Nexus 4 (being delivered Monday) and will be going to T-Mobile with that eventually bringing my wife over as well when her contract is up. The only reason I did the warranty claim was because my T-bolt was dead and I might as well get a free phone out of them before dropping them since my contract is up and such. That way rather than have a 1.5 year old dead T-bolt that is good for nothing but the trash, I would have a functioning phone which I could sell. Make sense so far?
So my initial thought was that I would sell the phone take the cash to recoup some of my cost of the N4 or use it toward buying my wife's new phone on the T-Mobile network. Then I saw something about the Incredible 4G being compatible with a GSM network and that if I modify the APN that I might be able to get it on T-Mobile with HSPA+. If that is the case I will just keep the phone and have a brand new phone for free for my wife rather than sell this one and buy a different one. When they ship out the new phone it will come with a Verizon SIM that I can use to get it on their network, my account is still active with them so I can call them and get and try and get an unlock code if I need one of those before I cancel my account and I can get any updates that may be out there for the phone.
Of course if this won't work I would rather sell the phone as basically a new phone, well it might be a refurb but I don't know that for sure because they said they had to send me a complete kit because I don't have a battery and battery cover that would fit since I have a T-bolt now. Though they may have complete phones as refurbs.
So if it will work, what will I need to do before I cancel my plan? Though there was that new law that went into effect the other day that makes it illegal to unlock a phone.. But if I let Verizon do it I would imagine it isn't an issue.
Phone is factory unlocked I'm using on gsm, if you are on android 4.0.4 you are unlocked already and just need to set up apn
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jose51197 said:
Phone is factory unlocked I'm using on gsm, if you are on android 4.0.4 you are unlocked already and just need to set up apn
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Thanks. I saw some posts from a while back that hinted at that but it mentions an upcoming update which may change some things. To be safe I will test it with my new T-Mobile SIM when I get that. The Nexus 4 also uses the micro SIM.
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I have this phone and have a net 10 sim card. Tried dozens of APN combo's but all I get is edge service. Is this all I can get? Any help would be great people!
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whodisname said:
I have this phone and have a net 10 sim card. Tried dozens of APN combo's but all I get is edge service. Is this all I can get? Any help would be great people!
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That's because 3g bands of that network aren't compatible, however if you flash cm10 you'll get more bands unlocked
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I'm on cyanogen 10.1. I can't seek to change the band. I dialed #*#*4636*#*# and get The menu. It let's me change my preferred network "gsm,lte,CDMA, etc. I'm using a net 10 sim. Anyone know how to get faster internet?
I know what AINT working!
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Is there a differentmenu? Maybe a different sim is the answer. Help please! I know there is a solution out here!
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whodisname said:
I'm on cyanogen 10.1. I can't seek to change the band. I dialed #*#*4636*#*# and get The menu. It let's me change my preferred network "gsm,lte,CDMA, etc. I'm using a net 10 sim. Anyone know how to get faster internet?
I know what AINT working!
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Is there a differentmenu? Maybe a different sim is the answer. Help please! I know there is a solution out here!
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Press menú and select bands
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I tried that. Here goes some different steps I took:
I started with cyyanogen last nightly build.
Tried switching all the different settings in the hidden men u (gsm, CDMA only prl) etc. Changed the bands from automatic to to aus2. No good except auto and USA. 2g
Did this on viper and got the options 800mhz and 1900 MHz. No good on 1900. 800mhz 2g. (E)
Used the very alpha miui ROM from the general section and got two different radio strength bars. One was 1x and the one above it (weird right) was 3g. Had signal on the 1x but couldn't use the phone right away. Had no service on the 3g (although it started out with 3bars and slowly went to 0 and stayed) changed the APN to tfdata. Got phone but no data. Had to put the phone back onto gsm only to get data. Which gavee just the one signal bar.
I'm trying here folks!!!!
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I tried that. Here goes some different steps I took:
I started with cyyanogen last nightly build.
Tried switching all the different settings in the hidden men u (gsm, CDMA only prl) etc. Changed the bands from automatic to to aus2. No good except auto and USA. 2g
Did this on viper and got the options 800mhz and 1900 MHz. No good on 1900. 800mhz 2g. (E)
Used the very alpha miui ROM from the general section and got two different radio strength bars. One was 1x and the one above it (weird right) was 3g. Had signal on the 1x but couldn't use the phone right away. Had no service on the 3g (although it started out with 3bars and slowly went to 0 and stayed) changed the APN to tfdata. Got phone but no data. Had to put the phone back onto gsm only to get data. Which gavee just the one signal bar.
I'm trying here folks!!!!
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I found the 3g bands for your network are 850 and 1900 however looks like you live on a non 3g area, you just needed to Google it
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I have been googling it for 3 days. I'm pretty sure I should get service here. Any coverage map says I'm right in the middle of the good zone. At&t, sprint, Tmobile, Verizon, virginmobile, all confirmed get signal and data here. I have been finding it a little difficult to find a lot on the radio bands but 1900 got no service here at all.
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I have been googling it for 3 days. I'm pretty sure I should get service here. Any coverage map says I'm right in the middle of the good zone. At&t, sprint, Tmobile, Verizon, virginmobile, all confirmed get signal and data here. I have been finding it a little difficult to find a lot on the radio bands but 1900 got no service here at all.
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Strange, our phone got 850 and 1900 bands at stock, and you only get 2g, have you ever got a h, also set bands in automatic and wcdma only, then search for networks manually, best way to know what carriers will work
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Gotcha.
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whodisname said:
Hmmmmm, I never tried to use it with this sim in it stock. No no h. Just the e (sometimes g!) IMA ruu it right quick. I saw something on here bout stock but never really paid it any attention.
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g means 3g
Nah. g means 1g. Analog.
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Nah. g means 1g. Analog.
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not in this case, you said you were not using your phone in stock, theres a bug where the 3g symbol got changed to g for gsm users, i read about it, statusbar theming on htc devices caused the h symbol to be swaped to g symbol, sorry about not being clear on last post
No. The g is definitely 1g. 5-15 KB a sec. All the symbols work I think because when I had Verizon on the same rom it showed the 1x, 3g, lte, icons, depending upon where I was. Usually lte or 3g. I'm going to get some go phone sims in a week or whenever they come in. The sim cards are cheap so I can change them out no prob. I just have ran out of $350 a month for phone service. I can almost deal with it Cuz its slow but very stout signal. Never dropped a download yet. I just don't like having to set up all my DL to run while I sleep. I'm used to lte ya dig!
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Please all, stay on topic and with respect.
Otherwise infractions will visit you
Thanks for your cooperation
Hi all
any way to put 850 band on htc incredible 4g?
i only see 800 - 1900 and japan bands 800 - 2000
You have to use a difderent sim card. There are people on here who know what oones tp get but they dont really like to. AT&T is supposed to work. Im not sure. You cannot put another frequency antenna on this phone without taking it apart and using a soldering iron. (Good luck!)
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No. The g is definitely 1g. 5-15 KB a sec. All the symbols work I think because when I had Verizon on the same rom it showed the 1x, 3g, lte, icons, depending upon where I was. Usually lte or 3g. I'm going to get some go phone sims in a week or whenever they come in. The sim cards are cheap so I can change them out no prob. I just have ran out of $350 a month for phone service. I can almost deal with it Cuz its slow but very stout signal. Never dropped a download yet. I just don't like having to set up all my DL to run while I sleep. I'm used to lte ya dig!
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you are arguing with a very experienced person here. him and i both know a thing or two about phones and i must say, if he's sure its a bug, then it is. I am inclined to believe him too because we all know that HTC programmed this phone for a specific service initially, and they were not counting on it ever going outside the VZW network. That being said, there is no way for the phone to tell what network its on. Case and point... i just manually flashed my phone to the MetroPCS PRL and it still says Verizon Wireless... The network speed i get will not be shown as LTE even though i have it, because it only ever used GSM for LTE(which is partially GSM-based technology), not voice and data. So, on the stock rom, the phone is and will be "confused". CM10.1 works great and DOES know the difference. You will have best results by being s-off as i am.