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Hi everybody, as I have updated my phone to 2.1, I find it a bit laggy. I'm asking for your help to improve performances and get it smoothier.
Can anyone tell me which are the best settings for Autokiller to gain speed and improve battery life? I didn't found something obvious and really need to get it smoothier.
Regards.
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Also on this - I use TaskPanel - whenever I do a Kill All - it kills the SIM Card and restarts GSM services.
Anyone else seen this?
Otherwise I have the usual set to AutoKill - ignoring anything to do with Clocks, SetCPU, Widgets & Live Wallpaper.
Seems to kill a good 100+mb every time I press it.
edit: hope thats not a hijack
Maybe should you add stckappservice + datatrafixexcepmms + bluetoothheadsetservice processes to your ignore list. (Backupandrestore too)
OK so with ATK I'm always around 160 mb free Memory and many processes come back wathever I do : useragentprovider + custmizationprovider, etc...
Have someone a list of processes which are safe to uninstall and some settings for Autokiller? I really need to get faster and than it was on 1.6.
Regards.
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I've not bothered installing one on 2.1 and found no reason to. The battery life has been significantly increased and although it started off a bit laggy it's smoothed it's self out now.
The following tools really help:
System Panel - monitor what drains battery/cpu time and then decide to throw that app out.
SetCPU - Just make sure to not restrain the cpu too much in hopes of saving that last percent of batt-life, it makes the system lag (ie. lowest while screen off makes the lock-screen/call-screen when turning it back on lag)
Autostarts - control what starts up on events (ie. Startup, battery power level change, etc) helps keep a lot of stuff from unnecessarily checking whether they need to do something.
AutoKiller Memory - Set a Ram-Profile in there. It'll kill tasks that aren't visible/high priority in case the ram gets too low/some other app needs the ram.
Good advise would also be: Don't use Task-Killers whenever you can avoid it. If an app drains too much battery: look for an alternative.
Killing all kinds of apps can do one of two things: either they start up automatically again or they start up on demand again. In both cases a well-coded app that doesn't suck batteries dry will use more batt re-starting and loading everything back into ram than it would if it just stayed there idle. And it'll remove lag by a lot.
Ram is getting powered either way. Use the ram you have. Mine's running constantly below 60MiB of free Ram (usually around 50) and it doesn't experience any lag.
What you also might want to look into is removing useless stuff that SE installed that'll just suck cpu-cycles every chance it gets.
Mine is silky smooth, but I have removed all crapware like moxier, quadrapop, all the Asian language keyboards, wisepilot. Etc. Now its very lean and fast
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I think they were more essential in older versions such as 1.6.
Advanced Task Manager.
Kill process every 30 min (differt setting possible)
U can choose task that don't want kill (exclude list)
Works perfectly.
I confirm lag on my 2.1 Xperia. Better some minutes after boot. Why?
Only a Q. Is it just possible to root the 2.1 version?
Tnks
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Silver_77 said:
Only a Q. Is it just possible to root the 2.1 version?
Tnks
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Yes, read the sticky in the development section.
NightSidew1nd3r said:
Mine is silky smooth, but I have removed all crapware like moxier, quadrapop, all the Asian language keyboards, wisepilot. Etc. Now its very lean and fast
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How you do that, is it 2.1 rooted?
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How you do that, is it 2.1 rooted?
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Yes you will need to root to remove some apps.
i have root 2.1 but how do i remove apps?
can i do it on the phone or do i need to use adb on my pc?
I don't know why mine is laggy : I've uninstalled useless apps, I've tried many settings for Autokiller, and I don't kill processes which always come back.
I've noticed that my apps are not laggy, only Homescreen. I use ADW Launcher, anyone else noticed its Homescreen latency?
Regards
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Astral07 said:
i have root 2.1 but how do i remove apps?
can i do it on the phone or do i need to use adb on my pc?
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You need to use titaniumbackup. Ensure you to enable chuck norris mod if you want to remove pre~loaded apps.
Edit : be careful, many apps mustn't be removed.
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thanks for the explination
Edit : all work fine now. I just set setcpu minimum scale to 384 and max to 752.It doesn't lag anymore. I'm gonna analyze battery life with these settings and report them.
Regards.
Hi All,
I came across a few articles online that suggest that the task managers/killers actually do more harm than good. As far as I know, the Android OS is pretty good at multitasking and managing apps when it is needed to free RAM/CPU.
Would like to hear input specifically regarding the X10 and how these apps affect the system and/or phone specially after the 2.1 update?
Thanks!
Well aince I got to 2.1 Ive havent found the need to download a task killer. Its been stable with 100-140mb constant no matter how many apps I open. But in 1.6 I was getting 20mb if I didnt use task killer lol im guessing the need for task killer as the os upgrades gets less and less as 2.2 really gets ****ed by it lol
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I've read online about how closing some apps such as mediascape will affect your other media applications cos these services are tied together. But I've always killed all of the ones I don't see myself needing in the next hour or so, and nothing's ever really crashed for me heh.
But I do make it a point to close all apps before running quadrant. Very very pleased with my 730 score
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Well aince I got to 2.1 Ive havent found the need to download a task killer. Its been stable with 100-140mb constant no matter how many apps I open. But in 1.6 I was getting 20mb if I didnt use task killer lol im guessing the need for task killer as the os upgrades gets less and less as 2.2 really gets ****ed by it lol
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Dumb question, how do you check the RAM?
Best get something like autokiller memory optimizer.
You generally don't need much ram free and if you don't use apps that will eat the hell out of your system in the bg then there's no problem at all.
I haven't used a task killer since switching to 2.1 and there's no performance problems.
I still facing ram problem even after upgrade 2.1, hope no need any task killer anymore once we get 2.2
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gaolinde said:
I still facing ram problem even after upgrade 2.1, hope no need any task killer anymore once we get 2.2
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Not sure if the X10 will get 2.2. Looks like 2.1 is the end of the road for us.
By automatism, after I updated to 2.1 I installed advanced task killer, and at one point I noticed that, whean I had killed apps ammount of free RAM decereased ? So at that point, I uninstalled task killer to check will I notice any change in performance, and there was NONE I could notice, together with same battery duration.
So, so far I vote for no task killers.
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Not sure if the X10 will get 2.2. Looks like 2.1 is the end of the road for us.
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come on we have 2.2 custom rom on the way.
and good new is i just tested the custom room it appeared froyo managed ram really well, i launched a ton of software and still having more than 100mb of free ram.
gaolinde said:
come on we have 2.2 custom rom on the way.
and good new is i just tested the custom room it appeared froyo managed ram really well, i launched a ton of software and still having more than 100mb of free ram.
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Yeah I know we have custom ROMs. I was referring to the official update from SE. I know we will get the UXP update sometime in the future but, not sure if they will go as far as releasing a 2.2 update for the X10?
I don't use it anymore since on 2.1, when using it on 2.1 there's a lot of glitches and it DOES do more harm than good. I get better overall performance without it.
I use it, facebook, skype start by themselves and drain my battery
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I use it, facebook, skype start by themselves and drain my battery
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Yes but, according to Android developers, 2.1 automatically closes these idle programs to prevent that. They claim that android is capable of handling this and that any task manger apps are useless.
Read this article http://androinica.com/2010/05/07/go...-imply-task-killermanager-apps-are-pointless/
Since upgrade to 2.1, I installed Task Killer. It cleaned my memory to have available mem from 80MB to 150MB. However, it got some weired behaviour such as
- X10 got lag for a moment when the screen is just back on.
- when the screen is just back on, Wifi cannot reconnect. I have to disable and enable it again.
So I read to post of Android multitasking and I try it by disable AutoKill but keep the widget on the sceen to see the available mem.
My mem keep available around 70-80MB and X10 performance is increase. No more lag or have to re-enable wifi after screen is back on.
I already remove Taskkiller but installed Watchdog instead. Because there are some bad coding software out there which comsume the battery and CPU even you've exited. In such a case, I have to kill those apps manually.
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X10i Generic Android 2.1, rooted, JIT enable.
You want the memory to be as full as possible!!! This means that those often used tasks are there, waiting. This is not Windows! Stop forcing Android to reload everything from scratch! No wonder things are lagging for you.
I've done many experiment about it.
Here's few conclusion, everything you guys claims are all true.
Android is nix base, fulfilling ram mean more cache, more speed.
However, more process mean more CPU usage in some service.
Some softwares are not properly coded, it, unfortunately, doesn't release the resource when it exits
And it's also true that force killing it, will eat more battery because without properly closing, it will eventually open up again
I suggest, instead of killing a task using ATK.
try this one.
http://andrs.w3pla.net/autokiller
It teaches android how to deal with the memory, so it's android who do your dirty job.
Hmm.... I take a look at at autokiller. I think it's better to let Android handle the mem for me. What I'm looking for is an apps that monitor backgound processes/apps that consumes CPU and memory which they should not.
Once identify those apps, I need to kill them individually.
Watchdog paid version suits me well on this purpose. I can put those apps in the blacklist. If they consumes more CPU in the background process, Watchdog will kill them automatically.
I may consider autokiller when I have of low memory warning from my X10 which is currently I have not.
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X10i Generic Android 2.1, rooted, JIT enabled.
I do without but my phone is seriously laggy at times, it drops under 20mb free ram within seconds after rebooting, extremely annoying! I heard things about jit, but I really have no idea how it works. Also I have a mac, so all those adb needed programs I can't run.
Is there any good application which can make my phone quicker? Now I have some times half screens by sliding through pages in the launcher, that can't be normal!
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PollPixx said:
I do without but my phone is seriously laggy at times, it drops under 20mb free ram within seconds after rebooting, extremely annoying! I heard things about jit, but I really have no idea how it works. Also I have a mac, so all those adb needed programs I can't run.
Is there any good application which can make my phone quicker? Now I have some times half screens by sliding through pages in the launcher, that can't be normal!
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Try install these app
1. RamDroid
2. Advance Task Killer- set the killing frequency to 'switch screen off'
3. CpuTuner (setcpu)- i prefer use the 'ondemand' frequency cos i wan to conserve battery.
all free app.. and need rooted phones. it quite user friendly. jus play with it awhile, u'll know how to use.
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I do without but my phone is seriously laggy at times, it drops under 20mb free ram within seconds after rebooting, extremely annoying! I heard things about jit, but I really have no idea how it works. Also I have a mac, so all those adb needed programs I can't run.
Is there any good application which can make my phone quicker? Now I have some times half screens by sliding through pages in the launcher, that can't be normal!
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I'm using minfreemanager from market with aggressive option, what gives me ~70MB free RAM by the Android's native taskkiller. It's the best choice as of the 2.1 have a lot services running in backround and nobody should harm them.
Trust me, minfreemanager is your weapon against slowness
hi guyz,
my x10i is a couple of weeks old.
i updated to 2.1 and rooted (1 click) with z4root.
i installed lots of apps on it but didnt do anything to the ROMS(i dont know what those are) or increase CPU speed
my problem is that my phone reboots by itself at least once a day and i dont know why. please advice
i love my x10
There might be a RAM issue, when your phone doesn't have any free RAM it will reboot automatically. Do you use multiple heavy programs at the same time or have a lot of often refreshable widgets on your screen?
It also can be an app which doesn't react very well on your phone. For instance I had desktop visualizer for a while and when I added to much widgets my phone rebooted from time to time.
Its hard to say from here what's causing this for you....
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I think its either a RAM issue or an app issue too, but whats eating the RAM then?
I do have ALOT of apps installed but i need to still download a 'task manager" so i can see which apps a running at same time. i do have advanced task killer though.
The phone reboots when im continuously chatting on "whatsapp" could that be the problem? i dont want to uninstall it, what do u recommend i do?
You can give it a try to not using whatsapp for a while, see if it still happens.. It's a start in your search..
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the only way would be to uninstall it which i dont want to do.
i have installed task manager and have "killed" apps running that im not using, will see if it restarts again, if yes i will have to uninstall 'whatsapp".
thanx for your help!!
how did u get to put a picture on ur signature?
it's soon time to refresh that, thanks for reminding ;-)
But it's possible in your user panel to add this.
The pic itself is just some photoshop work...
i think i managed to get mine right
hi everyone. im new to android and my phone is galaxy 5 (obviously). i got a problem. when i installed or flashed to froyo, i cant seem to make apps run in the background. like im listenin to music and runnin opera MOBILE (more ram consuming one) it closes opera
.. what to do? it stops my downloads! btw whats the xda app for?
The xda App is just to get to your favorite fourms faster. As for the RAM problem. Try an app called Autokiller Memory Optimizer. hit menu and set a preset to aggressive. It will ask for Root Access. Allow and you should have a better RAM solution.
PM if you need anymore help,
-luke
I think u didn't understand.. I want it tp be open not close it. Can the app be made system persistant or sth? Like no background close on a special marked app?
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well what I was thinking was the values in aggressive close apps that are empty and not in use (small system apps?). Also in processes (in memory app) if you find the app you want to stay open, long hold and hit lower oom value. It should keep the app into memory for a while.
hope it helps
So... It overrides the default taskman? Cuz this is the problem. After flashing this manager came with it and this s*** closes everything..literally. So will this app really help? I installed it before. Didn't work (i have root)
Hey i searched for this. forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=683123
Will that rly work? And i mean better multitasking?
Bump.
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You could try a MAD Team ROM with App2SD and swap partition.
Ok no help...
dear X1O users, i need a favor.
who can provide me with a software were i can close the running programs other that super task killer and such that.
well am not facing lack of battery or memory thing but my problem is that my internet consumption is decreasing so fast, even when my phone is in standby mode my phone is using internet programs like (facebook, whatsapp,viber... and so on)
so what do you recommend???
no comments??? :'(
Use Taskkillers.... Set them scheduled
CheersS!
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Try juice defender, it cuts the internet while your screen is off so you wont use data, plus it saves battery.
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darkylight said:
dear X1O users, i need a favor.
who can provide me with a software were i can close the running programs other that super task killer and such that.
well am not facing lack of battery or memory thing but my problem is that my internet consumption is decreasing so fast, even when my phone is in standby mode my phone is using internet programs like (facebook, whatsapp,viber... and so on)
so what do you recommend???
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Try to get Juice Difender from the Market here https://market.android.com/details?id=com.latedroid.juicedefender&feature=search_result
Once if u enable itself, u no need to kill the background things via task killer
It'll be do this job whenever ur keypad is locked..
Good Luck
thanks all for your kind help and respond