My buddy's HTC Eris cannot connect to our work WIFI.
His Phone: Gingerbread 1.6RC1
Our network: Hidden SSID WPA2+TKIP+AES
Before you ask, yes, I've entered in the SSID and Password manually.
I've tried Hidden SSID enabler, I've tried setting the IP to static... no dice. No one seems to have a solution or a reason why this happens. The best advice they give is to unhide the SSID. While I agree, I can't, because this is a work WiFi network. Not my router, not my policy.
Does anyone know if there's a radio update for the WiFi or a way to get it working? I thought the custom rom would fix it, but it doesn't. The LG Swift and Moto Droid both connect, no problems.
I've helped others with issues like this for the Eris and usually turning off TKIP solves the problem. For some reason, TKIP causes issues, and though you'd think that having AES as well would fix that, it may be that the Eris tries to use the "easy" method of TKIP and then fails.
That said, TKIP and WPA2 means that it is not exactly following the standard - I think that WPA2 is supposed to use CCMP/AES only. (It's actually a sort-of misnomer to say TKIP vs. AES - TKIP is to CCMP as RC4 is to AES. Or, in other words, TKIP uses RC4 as a cypher, while CCMP use AES.)
Anyway, the other possible issue is that the Eris is b/g only - if that router is a or n only, the Eris will not work.
It seems rather silly these days to be using SSIP hiding with WPA2 - anybody who wants to break in will get around SSID hiding easily, but will only get around WPA2 through brute-force cracking, and WPA2 will keep casual drive-by people out anyway - but, as you say, it's not your router. I'm not sure if you'll have any luck getting the folks who run it to change it to CCMP/AES only if you can't get them to unhide the SSID.
What doogald told you is spot on.
The only thing that I can add to what he said is that - unfortunately - it is quite typical with WiFi to run into interop problems when mixing gear from different vendors. That's not supposed to happen - but it in fact it happens all the time.
I ran into a case where Eris successfully negotiated an association with a older WiFi router (with AES+TKIP+WPA2), got an IP via DHCP from the AP.... and then was completely unable to communicate via IP - not even a ping. This particular problem was solved by updating the router firmware to a newer version.
I have beacons supressed on my WiFi router (although I completely agree with doogald that it provides NO extra security, despite popular misconceptions to the contrary), and sometimes my WiFi connection does not come up straight away - sometimes using the WiFi Scanner app (by farproc) seems to do something to kickstart the association/authentication. (The other thing you might give a try is this - if the PSK is a series of hex characters, check to see that it is not a simple matter of the case of the a-f characters being wrong. iirc, WPA2 uses string values rather than hex, so case sensitivity can pop up from time to time if network admins had a past history of using hex strings for WEP)
Usually, fixing a problem like this is a matter of trial and error; you try and eliminate or change one behavior at a time until something changes. (e.g. the B/G/N multi-mode behaviors, or turning beacons back on.) Generally, because there are more knobs to turn on the WiFi router, that's the place to start.
If you are in a position where the WiFi router can not be touched - well, you might be SOL, as there's precious little you can easily tweak on the Eris**
bftb0
**PS I suppose that it is possible that if we are talking about a rooted phone, you could dig in to configuration options for the "wpa_supplicant" process on the Eris - "wpa_supplicant" is based off of open source code, so perhaps a configuration file could - if nothing else - encourage it to be a little more verbose so you can detect what the error is.
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I have beacons supressed on my WiFi router (although I completely agree with doogald that it provides NO extra security, despite popular misconceptions to the contrary), and sometimes my WiFi connection does not come up straight away - sometimes using the WiFi Scanner app (by farproc) seems to do something to kickstart the association/authentication.
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I hate to go a little off-topic, but this happens to me with Froyo and GB ROMs (not with the Eclair ROMs), and I am not hiding the SSID. I actually think it has more to do with the kernel (Conap's CFS or BFS vs. Zanfur) than it does the Android version, though I could be wrong about that.
Anyway, here is what I noticed: in 2.2 or 2.3, if I turn on the WiFi radio using a widget, or just a setting toggle in an app like Quick Settings, it takes about 5-10 minutes before it finally connects to the access point. However, if I follow the settings->wireless & networks and then check WiFi to enable it, it will make the connection in a matter of seconds - every time; it's 100% repeatable. With a 2.1 ROM running Zanfur, no matter how I turn on WiFi, it reconnects every time within seconds.
I've tried looking at logs but I haven't seen anything obvious to suggest that there is some issue.
This is just a question for you two or anyone else who knows. Has there ever been a reported problem with anyone's Eris WIFI when using JIT? I'm just grasping at straws here.
Also, thanks doogald for the information regarding TKIP and AES. I don't recall if I ever researched this stuff before, but if I had, evidently it hadn't sunk in. I'm sure I could've found the information if it was actually important enough for me to, but I have often wondered about some of the "options" available in setting up wireless networks.
doogald said:
I hate to go a little off-topic, but this happens to me with Froyo and GB ROMs (not with the Eclair ROMs), and I am not hiding the SSID. I actually think it has more to do with the kernel (Conap's CFS or BFS vs. Zanfur) than it does the Android version, though I could be wrong about that.
Anyway, here is what I noticed: in 2.2 or 2.3, if I turn on the WiFi radio using a widget, or just a setting toggle in an app like Quick Settings, it takes about 5-10 minutes before it finally connects to the access point. However, if I follow the settings->wireless & networks and then check WiFi to enable it, it will make the connection in a matter of seconds - every time; it's 100% repeatable. With a 2.1 ROM running Zanfur, no matter how I turn on WiFi, it reconnects every time within seconds.
I've tried looking at logs but I haven't seen anything obvious to suggest that there is some issue.
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In case you don't already know this, a long time ago I learned that differen't widgets ways of toggling things like 3G and WIFI may differ slightly, and some widgets methods may cause problems or delays where other widgets with different methods may work without any trouble. I use the EasySwitch app myself, I actually paid for it. I would suggest at least trying the trial version and see if that helps any.
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Also, thanks doogald for the information regarding TKIP and AES. I don't recall if I ever researched this stuff before, but if I had, evidently it hadn't sunk in. I'm sure I could've found the information if it was actually important enough for me to, but I have often wondered about some of the "options" available in setting up wireless networks.
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You're very welcome.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
In case you don't already know this, a long time ago I learned that differen't widgets ways of toggling things like 3G and WIFI may differ slightly, and some widgets methods may cause problems or delays where other widgets with different methods may work without any trouble. I use the EasySwitch app myself, I actually paid for it. I would suggest at least trying the trial version and see if that helps any.
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Thanks for the suggestion, and I will try it just to see. I do know that the Cyanogen notification bar widget, plus the Android standard Power Control Widget, has this issue with all of the Froyo and GB ROMs that I have tried, and I think I even had this issue when I installed Conap's BFS or CFS on xtrROM as well. Again, it doesn't happen with the Zanfur kernel in a standard 2.1 Eris ROM that you'll find here.
What I like about Quick Settings (https://market.android.com/details?id=com.bwx.bequick&feature=search_result) allows you to tap the WiFi wording (not where it has an on/off toggle button, but anywhere else on that line) it will bring you to settings->Wireless & Networks directly. Nice little app.
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This is just a question for you two or anyone else who knows. Has there ever been a reported problem with anyone's Eris WIFI when using JIT? I'm just grasping at straws here.
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Sorry, I forgot about this with my last post.
I tend to doubt that JIT would have anything to do with WiFi issue. If I am not mistaken, the JIT that we are talking about is just in time compiling for the Dalvik virtual machine, and I am fairly certain that WiFi operations are handled by Linux on the phone, not by Dalvik. Perhaps I am wrong about that, though.
That said, I ran GSB for a day or so before I realized that JIT was turned off by default, and it had that same issue with delayed connection. It's actually one of the first things I test with a new ROM...
And I am also pretty sure that I have seen issues with people whose router was set to TKIP (it's usually WPA rather than WPA2, where TKIP is more likely than WPA2) with stock Eris (and the Hero, I might add), which, of course, is not JIT.
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I use the EasySwitch app myself, I actually paid for it. I would suggest at least trying the trial version and see if that helps any.
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doogald said:
Thanks for the suggestion, and I will try it just to see.
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As it turns out, EasySwitch Trial is set to run up to 2.2 only. It doesn't show up in the market on 2.3, and it wasn't until I went to market.android.com that I learned that it's not compatible with my GB device.
I will try it the next time I go back to Froyo, though.
doogald said:
You're very welcome.
Thanks for the suggestion, and I will try it just to see. I do know that the Cyanogen notification bar widget, plus the Android standard Power Control Widget, has this issue with all of the Froyo and GB ROMs that I have tried, and I think I even had this issue when I installed Conap's BFS or CFS on xtrROM as well. Again, it doesn't happen with the Zanfur kernel in a standard 2.1 Eris ROM that you'll find here.
What I like about Quick Settings (https://market.android.com/details?id=com.bwx.bequick&feature=search_result) allows you to tap the WiFi wording (not where it has an on/off toggle button, but anywhere else on that line) it will bring you to settings->Wireless & Networks directly. Nice little app.
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Oh yeah, I remember Quick Settings. I used to use that a lot for the first few months I had my Eris (I had rooted immediately), before I went to EasySwitch.
doogald said:
Sorry, I forgot about this with my last post.
I tend to doubt that JIT would have anything to do with WiFi issue. If I am not mistaken, the JIT that we are talking about is just in time compiling for the Dalvik virtual machine, and I am fairly certain that WiFi operations are handled by Linux on the phone, not by Dalvik. Perhaps I am wrong about that, though.
That said, I ran GSB for a day or so before I realized that JIT was turned off by default, and it had that same issue with delayed connection. It's actually one of the first things I test with a new ROM...
And I am also pretty sure that I have seen issues with people whose router was set to TKIP (it's usually WPA rather than WPA2, where TKIP is more likely than WPA2) with stock Eris (and the Hero, I might add), which, of course, is not JIT.
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I see. Thanks for your informed opinion!
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As it turns out, EasySwitch Trial is set to run up to 2.2 only. It doesn't show up in the market on 2.3, and it wasn't until I went to market.android.com that I learned that it's not compatible with my GB device.
I will try it the next time I go back to Froyo, though.
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Ah! Well, that is a bummer. Although, actually, I wasn't using EasySwitch under CM6 since it had the notification bar widgets. Does CM7 have those yet? That would probably be a deal breaker for me until I could at least use one of those under GB, which I haven't tried yet.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
Ah! Well, that is a bummer. Although, actually, I wasn't using EasySwitch under CM6 since it had the notification bar widgets. Does CM7 have those yet? That would probably be a deal breaker for me until I could at least use one of those under GB, which I haven't tried yet.
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Yep, CM7 sure does have those.
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Yep, CM7 sure does have those.
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Oh, good. I'm not positive if I'll try a CM7 build until a final release or not, anyway. Thanks for the info.
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I recently flashed on cm7 on my aria. it is great but my data usage began shooting up. i realized it was due to the fact that everytime i lock my phone, it disables my wifi (i saw this because everytime i unlock im on 3g for a 1-2 seconds then i get on wifi so that means that the whole time my phone is locked it uses 3g data ) is there anyway i can prevent this from occurring??
Thanks,
Okachowwa
Menu -> settings -> wireless & networks -> wi-fi settings -> menu -> advanced -> wi-fi sleep policy -> never
I think that's it.
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okachowwa said:
I recently flashed on cm7 on my aria. it is great but my data usage began shooting up. i realized it was due to the fact that everytime i lock my phone, it disables my wifi (i saw this because everytime i unlock im on 3g for a 1-2 seconds then i get on wifi so that means that the whole time my phone is locked it uses 3g data ) is there anyway i can prevent this from occurring??
Thanks,
Okachowwa
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Have you checked the Wifi Settings to see which sleep option is selected? There is an 'Never' option which tells wifi to stay on even when the phone sleeps.
One thing I noticed its that if I leave my house I have to turn off wifi and turn it back on to find my router.
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klbmth said:
One thing I noticed its that if I leave my house I have to turn off wifi and turn it back on to find my router.
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yup...that's why you just turn your wifi off with the notification widget (very simple and painless might I add) if you know you're leaving the house...what's the point of having wifi enabled if you're not in range of your network? all it's going to do is drain your battery. i left my wifi enabled one day when i sent to work and within half the day i had ~12% battery life...definitely not good practice to leave it enabled that's my 2 cents, do as you wish though. to each his own.
klbmth said:
One thing I noticed its that if I leave my house I have to turn off wifi and turn it back on to find my router.
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Yup, I have the same issue with CM7 nightlies. This worked flawlessly in CM6 and stock2.1. So far there isn't a viable solution.
from the CM6.1.1 thread...
Q. How do I keep my wifi from going to sleep every time the screen shuts off?
A. There is a hidden feature that disables wifi sleep.
menu > Settings > Wireless & networks > wifi settings > menu (again) > advanced > Wi-Fi Sleep policy > Never > menu > Save
However: although you can keep the wifi service from sleeping, the wifi driver will still sleep on it's own after detecting no bus activity for a period of time.
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from the CM6.1.1 thread...
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I've made sure to set Wifi Sleep Policy to "Never" but that did not fix my wifi problems. What I see when I open Wifi Settings is a cycle of:
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Scanning --> Connecting --> Disconnected... Scanning, etc
When I look in logcat it shows it attemping (in vain) to authenticate against the last wifi network I was using -- even though it is no longer in range (and clear across town). In a nutshell it is refusing to recognize the actual nearby network UNTIL I toggle wifi settings.
I've had the same behavior on FR008 and the stock ATT 2.1 load as well. When Wifi is in that on but not really connected state some apps can wake it up...the default browser usually will, but Listen would not. I just gave up and only turn on wifi when I need it.
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I've made sure to set Wifi Sleep Policy to "Never" but that did not fix my wifi problems. What I see when I open Wifi Settings is a cycle of:
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Scanning --> Connecting --> Disconnected... Scanning, etc
When I look in logcat it shows it attemping (in vain) to authenticate against the last wifi network I was using -- even though it is no longer in range (and clear across town). In a nutshell it is refusing to recognize the actual nearby network UNTIL I toggle wifi settings.
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What is the point of having wifi set to ON when you are not in range of a network? Hence why, if you are using CM7 or CM6, you should utilize the notification widget and turn wifi off if you know you're leaving the area of your network. It's simple. Things aren't ALWAYS going to work how YOU want them to work. Thing will not always be automatic. I think I quote attn1 when I say this, just because it doesn't work how you want it to work, does not mean it is broken.
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What is the point of having wifi set to ON when you are not in range of a network? Hence why, if you are using CM7 or CM6, you should utilize the notification widget and turn wifi off if you know you're leaving the area of your network. It's simple. Things aren't ALWAYS going to work how YOU want them to work. Thing will not always be automatic. I think I quote attn1 when I say this, just because it doesn't work how you want it to work, does not mean it is broken.
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Well, just because people don't work exactly like you work, does not mean they are doing it wrong. If something is broken I'm going to call it out. I might be incorrect, but let's be clear: you aren't questioning that wifi in CM7 isn't working the way it did in CM6, you are questioning my behavior -- which is a weak argument.
I guess you don't understand the issue, so I'll spell it out:
Wifi worked flawlessly and automatically for me in stock 2.1 AND CM6. This automatic behavior does not work in CM7. Manually toggling something that simply "just worked" before is a regression, not a feature. Hence the reason I point it out -- the devs can't fix something unless they know it's broken, and I seriously doubt the devs are able to test all/every permutation. I have nothing but respect for the work they do, thus my very respectful tones in my earlier posts. I've had no indication that the devs are unwilling to get feedback about their work.
You asked a question though, and here is the answer:
I leave Wifi on all the time because I'm a consultant -- I work in many different locations throughout the week, travelling the country. I have dozens of wifi networks saved on my phone, and it is useful for me to have my phone automatically jump on the correct, nearest network. I'd rather use free wifi instead of paying AT&T for data charges. It is not always possible for me to remember I'm in a location with a known wifi network, or to remember to manually toggle wifi settings: it is useful for me to have this happen in the background. Sometimes I'm on a call, sometimes I'm heading into a meeting and I'd rather not mess with my phone. I want wifi to be on all time, scanning for the correct network, and jumping on it when it's in range.
Outrageous, right?! Not actually -- this is the existing behavior in CM6 and stock 2.1. From my standpoint, wifi just worked -- I didn't have to think about it, didn't have to manually toggle something to prevent AT&T data charges.
This is desired behavior for me, and I'm happy with rolling back to CM6 to get it. I understand that _you_ don't need this behavior, but that doesn't mean it's wrong. It just means the world is bigger than you realized.
And yes: wifi in CM7 (beta) is currently broken. Read the threads. Many people are having problems with it.
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yup...that's why you just turn your wifi off with the notification widget (very simple and painless might I add) if you know you're leaving the house...what's the point of having wifi enabled if you're not in range of your network? all it's going to do is drain your battery. i left my wifi enabled one day when i sent to work and within half the day i had ~12% battery life...definitely not good practice to leave it enabled that's my 2 cents, do as you wish though. to each his own.
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That's a good tip, I feel kind of dumb for not thinking about it lol and I also agree that it is good practice to do so. I just wanted to point it out in case a dev was going through this thread which is relevant to the topic.
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kinggrowler said:
Well, just because people don't work exactly like you work, does not mean they are doing it wrong. If something is broken I'm going to call it out. I might be incorrect, but let's be clear: you aren't questioning that wifi in CM7 isn't working the way it did in CM6, you are questioning my behavior -- which is a weak argument.
I guess you don't understand the issue, so I'll spell it out:
Wifi worked flawlessly and automatically for me in stock 2.1 AND CM6. This automatic behavior does not work in CM7. Manually toggling something that simply "just worked" before is a regression, not a feature. Hence the reason I point it out -- the devs can't fix something unless they know it's broken, and I seriously doubt the devs are able to test all/every permutation. I have nothing but respect for the work they do, thus my very respectful tones in my earlier posts. I've had no indication that the devs are unwilling to get feedback about their work.
You asked a question though, and here is the answer:
I leave Wifi on all the time because I'm a consultant -- I work in many different locations throughout the week, travelling the country. I have dozens of wifi networks saved on my phone, and it is useful for me to have my phone automatically jump on the correct, nearest network. I'd rather use free wifi instead of paying AT&T for data charges. It is not always possible for me to remember I'm in a location with a known wifi network, or to remember to manually toggle wifi settings: it is useful for me to have this happen in the background. Sometimes I'm on a call, sometimes I'm heading into a meeting and I'd rather not mess with my phone. I want wifi to be on all time, scanning for the correct network, and jumping on it when it's in range.
Outrageous, right?! Not actually -- this is the existing behavior in CM6 and stock 2.1. From my standpoint, wifi just worked -- I didn't have to think about it, didn't have to manually toggle something to prevent AT&T data charges.
This is desired behavior for me, and I'm happy with rolling back to CM6 to get it. I understand that _you_ don't need this behavior, but that doesn't mean it's wrong. It just means the world is bigger than you realized.
And yes: wifi in CM7 (beta) is currently broken. Read the threads. Many people are having problems with it.
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fyi CM6 & 2.1 != CM7. Your argument is null & void.
Also, being a "consultant" and the very important man you are, flashing a rom that's not even in beta stages yet probably isn't the best idea you've ever had.
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Also, being a "consultant" and the very important man you are, flashing a rom that's not even in beta stages yet probably isn't the best idea you've ever had.
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Why do you remind us that the rom is in a beta stage? "Beta" implies it is not fully functional, but your argument all along has been that it works perfectly....
Look, it's clear you haven't actually understood any of my posts. I'm highlighting error messages or erratic behavior I see in logcat running CM7. I've posted what I've seen so the devs can take action, or not, as they choose. Since you aren't in that audience I don't understand what your beef is.
Oh wait! Straw man arguments; personal attacks; logical fallacies: I've been dealing with either a highschool student or a troll - not sure which.
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fyi CM6 & 2.1 != CM7. Your argument is null & void.
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...although I have a strong suspicion.
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Why do you remind us that the rom is in a beta stage? "Beta" implies it is not fully functional, but your argument all along has been that it works perfectly....
Look, it's clear you haven't actually understood any of my posts. I'm highlighting error messages or erratic behavior I see in logcat running CM7. I've posted what I've seen so the devs can take action, or not, as they choose. Since you aren't in that audience I don't understand what your beef is.
Oh wait! Straw man arguments; personal attacks; logical fallacies: I've been dealing with either a highschool student or a troll - not sure which.
...although I have a strong suspicion.
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First of all:
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Just because something does not work they way you'd like it to doesn't mean you've discovered a bug.
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That being said. Beta does NOT necessarily imply that thing are not fully functioning, it simply implies that it hasn't been put into RC or stable. You can have a fully functioning beta program. HOWEVER, it may not be working properly. But creating a thread about an issue that's been brought up 20+ times now is pointless. I'm PRETTY sure the devs know about the issue, should it actually be an issue. Now that I just wasted another 15 seconds of my life, i'm going to casually /part from this thread and I'll end my post with this quote again, in case you didn't catch it the first time.
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Just because something does not work they way you'd like it to doesn't mean you've discovered a bug.
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This is for OP and very important man of the day, kinggrowler:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11171075&postcount=1054
and i'll even quote it directly for you:
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There are no broad wifi issues to resolve, and I do not plan to change the wifi driver one iota. I am using the one that works right for most people, and flawlessly for me.
If you are not having such luck, then you need to look at your access point if you have already wiped data.
Really, the constant carping about wifi is absolutely pointless.
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I believe the proper thing for me to say right now would be:
game. set. match.
Me too. I can't roam between networks, either. I have to disable and re-enable the wifi each time.
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...what's the point of having wifi enabled if you're not in range of your network?
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1) Because Google Maps uses known wifi hotspots to help establish your location.
2) So that you don't have to keep toggling wifi on and off when moving between hotspots (or home and work, for example).
3) To use the network notification feature (aka "notify me when an open network is available").
HTH
Edit: seems to be fixed in RC3!
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What is the point of having wifi set to ON when you are not in range of a network? Hence why, if you are using CM7 or CM6, you should utilize the notification widget and turn wifi off if you know you're leaving the area of your network. It's simple. Things aren't ALWAYS going to work how YOU want them to work. Thing will not always be automatic. I think I quote attn1 when I say this, just because it doesn't work how you want it to work, does not mean it is broken.
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i have try everything and still same issues with wifi. and i change the radio ( baseband ). still i am thinking of uninstalling it bc i dont have wifi
Sorry to tell you but that was with the old wifi stuff (every nightly up to build 25), which I had no problem with. The RC/nightlies have new wifi data made by jznomoney, which I have on and off problems with. Its working for most people but there are a handful who are having problems. I flashed ladios' kernel and my wifi is doing a lot better with the new RC/nightlies.
Signatures are fancy.
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I've made sure to set Wifi Sleep Policy to "Never" but that did not fix my wifi problems. What I see when I open Wifi Settings is a cycle of:
Code:
Scanning --> Connecting --> Disconnected... Scanning, etc
When I look in logcat it shows it attemping (in vain) to authenticate against the last wifi network I was using -- even though it is no longer in range (and clear across town). In a nutshell it is refusing to recognize the actual nearby network UNTIL I toggle wifi settings.
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I've noticed something similar with CM7 on my Aria. When I leave the house and come back it doesn't always connect automatically and it will enter into this cycle of scanning, connecting, disconnected.
I had to reboot the phone to get it to stop the cycle and stay connected. I don't use a lot of data anyway but I still prefer to use wifi when available. Interestingly just now it wouldn't even see any of my neighbor's wifi networks at all which is odd.
Hey guys first time poster long time reader. Before I begin I just wanted to thank you all for the help and support with the ins and outs of the android OS.
Now that that is out of the way, I had a question in regards to Veoh.com and some issues I am having with it. I have Kaos Froyo v39, and I use Dolphin browser mini. When I change my useragent to iPhone and I go on Veoh it works okay for a little bit, and then it either stops loading videos or gives me an error message saying 'this video cannot be played' is there a fix for this? Am I doing something wrong?
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Hey guys first time poster long time reader. Before I begin I just wanted to thank you all for the help and support with the ins and outs of the android OS.
Now that that is out of the way, I had a question in regards to Veoh.com and some issues I am having with it. I have Kaos Froyo v39, and I use Dolphin browser mini. When I change my useragent to iPhone and I go on Veoh it works okay for a little bit, and then it either stops loading videos or gives me an error message saying 'this video cannot be played' is there a fix for this? Am I doing something wrong?
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Hi! Welcome. Is this over 3G or Wifi, or have you tried both?
Either way, this is safe to try: Download "APN OnOff" from the market. Launch it and choose "Show APN list" in the middle of the screen. Press Menu and choose "Reset to default". You may or may not need to perform a reboot to see if this helps. Try it without first.
This used to help me with restoring tethering when it stopped working.
A longer method to possibly achieve the same thing, but may be worth a try if the first method doesn't work:
Perform a nandroid and flash a stock-like ROM such as xtrSENSE (what I would recommend). You only have to use it long enough to download "APN Backup & Restore" off the market. Run it and choose "Backup APNs", you can name it whatever makes sense to you such as "xtrSENSE stock APN.xml", otherwise it just uses the current date and time.
Nandroid back to KaosFroyo and install "APN Backup & Restore" again. This time choose "Restore APNs" and restore the one you backed up from xtrSENSE. Again try it without a reboot first but if it doesn't work try a reboot.
You can do this as often as you like to see if this helps with any data trouble. I'm not positive if it helps with WIFI at all; I know it helps with 3G Data.
Please let us know if any of this helps or not.
Thank you so much, its working now. Only issue now is that the bar in the program is stuck in the off position, and when I click on it to turn it back on it just goes into the settings. My connections are still fine as you can see, should I be worried?
On an unrelated note, which tethering Rom did you use? I would love to tether my phone, but the threads I have read make it seem like a daunting process to me.
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Thank you so much, its working now. Only issue now is that the bar in the program is stuck in the off position, and when I click on it to turn it back on it just goes into the settings. My connections are still fine as you can see, should I be worried?
On an unrelated note, which tethering Rom did you use? I would love to tether my phone, but the threads I have read make it seem like a daunting process to me.
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Bar in which program? APN OnOff? As long as everything's working I wouldn't worry about it since I don't use that button; I think I've noticed that before. A reboot would probably restore it, in my experience.
I've tethered under every ROM but any GingerBread one, now. Started with xtrsense, found that it was marginally more reliable under Froyo so GB would probably be good too. What was better about 2.2+ tethering was how fast the tethering connection would be made, before it took a minute or two for the computer to recognize it; now down to less than 30 seconds.
I don't recommend the old wired or wireless tether for root under 2.2+, but I haven't tried them in a while. 2.2+ and CM6+ have their own native tethering. CM6.1's notification power widgets have a WIFI tether one which connects the fastest. Free Tethering Widget off the market will also give you a widget for that and/or USB tethering, which is built into 2.2+ itself but for some reason CM doesn't include a notification power widget for.
Wireless tethering eats your battery like crazy plus made the phone extra hot, but you have to understand that it was my only home internet until a month ago since last August. I kept the battery cover off and had a fan on it, but you don't have to do that for just occasional tethering. I also had it plugged in to charge constantly; I just liked how fast wireless connected.
Wired tethering also uses battery faster and makes it warmer, just not nearly as fast or warm as wireless.
Occasionally 3G would stop and I'd have to turn off tethering and do the steps in my other post to get it going again. Most of the time a reboot after doing APN OnOff made tethering last longer.
If you know how to install drivers with Device Manager (assuming you're on Windows), or you don't mind learning I would get the latest drivers from http://htc.developers.comhttp://developer.htc.com/ if I remember correctly.
I'm on my phone at the moment, I'll check later. The driver package is all the way at the bottom of the list, the last one.
Otherwise just install HTCSync for the Eris and that'll install older drivers.
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Okay so let me get this straight... I have tethering on my Froyo 2.2 already and I just need to grab a widget in order to activate it? What is the driver for? I was under the assumption that my phone would become a "hotspot" so I could set it up to an Xbox PS3 etc. Do I need to download the driver in order to tether to the computer? If so, how would I be able to use a wired tether to something like a PS3? I am a pretty quick learner on the whole concept of rooting and flashing Roms, but I am a newb so I appreciate your time and patience.
Okay so let me get this straight... I have tethering on my Froyo 2.2 already and I just need to grab a widget in order to activate it? What is the driver for? I was under the assumption that my phone would become a "hotspot" so I could set it up to an Xbox PS3 etc. Do I need to download the driver in order to tether to the computer? If so, how would I be able to use a wired tether to something like a PS3? I am a pretty quick learner on the whole concept of rooting and flashing Roms, but I am a newb so I appreciate your time and patience.
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Okay so let me get this straight... I have tethering on my Froyo 2.2 already and I just need to grab a widget in order to activate it? What is the driver for? I was under the assumption that my phone would become a "hotspot" so I could set it up to an Xbox PS3 etc. Do I need to download the driver in order to tether to the computer? If so, how would I be able to use a wired tether to something like a PS3? I am a pretty quick learner on the whole concept of rooting and flashing Roms, but I am a newb so I appreciate your time and patience.
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If you're running a recent enough version of a ROM based on CM6.x (6.1 or 6.2?), then if you enable the tethering widget in the notification menu power buttons (the buttons at the top), then you'd don't need anything else to WIFI tether.
You can do USB tethering by going into the stock settings, but it's such a PITA to do it there it's easier to do it by using that widget I mentioned, which also handles Froyo's WIFI tethering as well. So if you're never going to do USB tethering, you don't need any other drivers (called RDNIS drivers) and you don't need that widget off the market.
If you do ever plan on wire tether, then you will need to install some RDNIS drivers (the link I gave you) unless you've already installed HTCSync, since that includes both the regular and the RDNIS drivers. I have no idea if you can wire tether to a PS3 since in Windows you need to install a driver, but you can try it and let us know, or search for other people who wanted to do the same thing. You should be able to WIFI tether, however.
No problem, I'm glad you pick things up quickly, makes it that much easier. And you're welcome!
So help me - what bar in the program were you talking about?
On APN on /off, when I reset the settings I saw a bar on the main screen highlighted on. I turned it off thinking I should rest it. I couldn't toggle it back on, bit data was still working and I did a reboot just in case. It was nothing major thankfully.
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On APN on /off, when I reset the settings I saw a bar on the main screen highlighted on. I turned it off thinking I should rest it. I couldn't toggle it back on, bit data was still working and I did a reboot just in case. It was nothing major thankfully.
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You were correct in your end assessment that it shouldn't be anything to worry about, that APN switch in the middle of the screen. I've had mixed results with it in my observations, so I don't even touch it although as you noticed it doesn't seem to hurt anything.
Thanks for verifying; that was the only thing I could imagine you might be talking about!
Ever since upgrading to 2.2 I have lost the ability to connect to my schools WPA2-Enterprise network. I've searched and found that this was an issue introduced in 2.2 (I could connect fine on 2.1) and has been fixed in 2.3. I've tried all the solutions I've found online and zero have worked. These include using apps from the market such as Wifi Advanced Configuring and replacing the wpa_supplicant file in /system/bin/ with the version from 2.1
The werid thing is, after completely wiping and flashing a new rom, it will connect fine the first time but not after that so im thinking it has something to do with certificate/credential storage?
The network I'm trying to connect to is WPA2-Enterprise, authenticated via PEAP and MSCHAPV2
Can anyone point me in the right direction? What system files might affect this? Can I try replacing them from a 2.3 build?
Any ideas/input would be appreciated
Ummm.....I connect the same exact way with the same exact settings at my job and I haven't experinced any issues while running 2.2. Which rom are you using?
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Its happend on all of the 2.2 roms I've tried, (AOSP, MIUI, CM6, TW).
I've had the same issue. The odd thing is that some days I actually get it to link up on the first try to the same router, but other days I do all the various steps that you can find while googling for answers and never get to successfully connect.
Almost makes going back to 2.1 seem worthwhile...
Flashed a new rom today and connected to the network fine first try like usual. Cycled wifi and it wont connect again.
Anyone know where it stores wifi credentials? I'm thinking if I can clear them each time I want to connect it should work...
I'm in the same boat...although, my thread is on the second page with no replies. I am also unable to connect to enterprise wifi on campus...drives me nuts. I've spent countless hours trying to figure this out. I had no problems with enterprise wifi on 2.1...I wonder which file I could flash from 2.1 to make it work, I'm sure someone knows.
Looks like your school now has an allow list on their wifi
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Looks like your school now has an allow list on their wifi
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Are you saying my school restricts Android 2.2 users from using thier wifi while allowing 2.1 users to use it? I'm not sure what you mean...
Im saying maybe they needed more bandwidth so they put a block/allow list on their wifi. Nothing to do with your froyo. Or android. Could be they are ALLOWING ONLY KNOWN IP ADDRESSES now..(Since you dont know what an allow list is) Happened to me at work. And i dont have 3g at work so it sucks.
Only other explanation is that you screwed up during flashing. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt. I mean.......my wifi works just fine and ive flashed every rom in the dev section...currently on ec01 and wifi wpa2/enterprise is flawlessly working.
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Im saying maybe they needed more bandwidth so they put a block/allow list on their wifi. Nothing to do with your froyo. Or android. Could be they are ALLOWING ONLY KNOWN IP ADDRESSES now..(Since you dont know what an allow list is) Happened to me at work. And i dont have 3g at work so it sucks.
Only other explanation is that you screwed up during flashing. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt. I mean.......my wifi works just fine and ive flashed every rom in the dev section...currently on ec01 and wifi wpa2/enterprise is flawlessly working.
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I'm fairly certain its not either of these issues, considering after I flash a rom I can connect to my schools network fine the first time. Its the subsequent connections that are giving me issues.
Here's a link to the issue on googles open source android project.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1386
It basically says that it was an issue not present in 2.1, introduced in 2.2 and fixed in 2.3. I'm wondering if anyone knows what system files might affect this (wifi driver, certificates, deeper kernel issues?) and if anyone can point me in the right direction so I can start trying to pull files from other builds and see if it fixes my issues. I'm a complete noob but willing to give it a shot.
Can anyone let me know if ED01 or the official froyo rom has a fix for this wifi problem..??
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Can anyone let me know if ED01 or the official froyo rom has a fix for this wifi problem..??
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As I'm sure you know by now, none of the froyo updates fix the wifi problem. However, I can report flashing JT's CM7 build did fix the issue and it truly is an awesome rom if you can stand a few features missing.
As of now, there seems to be no fix for froyo builds
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As I'm sure you know by now, none of the froyo updates fix the wifi problem. However, I can report flashing JT's CM7 build did fix the issue and it truly is an awesome rom if you can stand a few features missing.
As of now, there seems to be no fix for froyo builds
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That is nothing short of a disappointment...until there is a fix, I'll just have to keep a close eye on my data usage.
I am having same sorts of problems on all wifi since upgrade to 2.2 froyo pushed out to me by VZ when I changed out a "bad" handset. VZ no help, referred me to Samsung; they have acknowledge problem but have no fix, or eta....
searched, no find.
I have two consistent issues.
1 - When retrieving sites requiring a login, or when logging into LastPass, if I can get to the "Processing..." popup, it will hang and sit. Sometimes it will complete Processing... after a couple minutes, and sometimes it will continue until I kill the app. This issue is frequent, so restarting the app is not an acceptable workaround.
2 - When loading a page it will often do the same but without a popup. It will take forever to load, sometimes not at all. Occasionally I can reload the page and it will work, occasionally it will not load at until I reboot the phone or something.
these issues seem to occur frequently on home wifi. my PC, also on wifi, will load from these servers instantly.
i have had the issue on the following:
stock
Unnamed latest
Shostock latest
entropy dd latest, and last two
siyah latest and previous
with/without overclocking
with/without data enabled
affects all browsers, lastpass, tapatalk, xda premium, etc, etc.
caches cleared, including dalvik
no stress on the phone, running usually 250-500MB RAM only.
any ideas? the phone is basically unusable as a smartphone at home. the issues may or may not be as bad on regular data. TIA.
one more try... anyone help with this issue?
You state that this is mostly happening on your home Wi-Fi connection; is it possible that you have some sort of QoS / traffic shaping setup on your wireless AP / router that may be resulting in this condition? Also, do you have any of this type of behavior on cellular 3G or other Wi-FI connected networks?
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You state that this is mostly happening on your home Wi-Fi connection; is it possible that you have some sort of QoS / traffic shaping setup on your wireless AP / router that may be resulting in this condition? Also, do you have any of this type of behavior on cellular 3G or other Wi-FI connected networks?
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thanks for the reply.
the issue is inconsistent even at home. i have been watching for causal conditions but not finding anything yet. it does not appear to be my wifi. no other devices have ever had any kind of problem, and there have been many (i share the my wpa2 wifi with neighbors as well, many smartphones, etc). yes, the issue frequently affects me off wifi on data. and yes, it occurs at my office wifi as well. but the intermittent nature makes me think it's something with the phone's software, which is why i'm focused on figuring this out here. when it rains it pours, and i will have to reboot the phone, not just kill my browser or other app, in order to connect. sometimes rebooting more than once is required.
Have you tried a 'wipe data / factory reset' in ClockworkMod Recovery?
yes, i did actually. the issue is happening even loading basic google searches out on H+. the page will usually load, but will take literally 3+ minutes to load it. i'm not sure what's going on but it seems there's something going on between me and the servers that is hanging my data retrieval. i'm mystified. but the phone is literally stuck on page loads & data retrieval about 70% of the time. i don't have any weird software running in the bg either. pretty basic Entropy DD (tried the last 2) and ShoStock latest. is it possible there is some hidden settings somewhere i can look at? i have scoured all available settings on the phone, but there's gotta be something deeper i can look at. any recommended system tweak apps for this?
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yes, i did actually. the issue is happening even loading basic google searches out on H+. the page will usually load, but will take literally 3+ minutes to load it. i'm not sure what's going on but it seems there's something going on between me and the servers that is hanging my data retrieval. i'm mystified. but the phone is literally stuck on page loads & data retrieval about 70% of the time. i don't have any weird software running in the bg either. pretty basic Entropy DD (tried the last 2) and ShoStock latest. is it possible there is some hidden settings somewhere i can look at? i have scoured all available settings on the phone, but there's gotta be something deeper i can look at. any recommended system tweak apps for this?
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I get similar things. Looks like my modem or connection is freaking out.. Did a factory return to kk6. Still didn't fix it. I'm thinking its hardware. Can't figure out what it is cause no laptop right now..
Just wanted to let you know your not alone.
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I get similar things. Looks like my modem or connection is freaking out.. Did a factory return to kk6. Still didn't fix it. I'm thinking its hardware. Can't figure out what it is cause no laptop right now..
Just wanted to let you know your not alone.
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thanks for the feedback. is your phone a refurb?
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thanks for the feedback. is your phone a refurb?
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Nope. Got it new with contract
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ok, mine is a refurb, but has not appeared to have even a single hardware issue. guess i'll continue to cycle new software and see if this eventually irons out. next step is to get more into the system settings and investigate. my initial guess is my phone is sending repeated requests in the background.
if anyone is interested, i may have found the problem. i'm no networking guru, but i changed my phone's DNS settings to OpenDNS's servers like my home router's config. previously my phone was using Google's DNS servers. after changing the phone to OpenDNS loads are consistent and snappy like every other box in the house. keeping an eye, but so far so good.
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Hi everyone - I have a weird problem that I really need some help on!
I have a Samsung Galaxy S III on the Verizon network. I've had the phone since it first came out and love it, but the problem I have is that when I connect to my network at home, YouTube and Google+ won't update.
Google+ tries to refresh and give the error:
"Can't load data. Check your connection."
When YouTube opens, I get the error:
There was a problem connecting to the network"
If I go into the sync settings for Google, most everything is syncing just fine, but Google+ and People details have problems. Google+ just shows the 2 arrows in the circle next to it and People details shows the same, but with an exclamation point. And then I have a message at the bottom that says "Sync is currently experiencing problems. It will be back shortly."
This problem for YouTube and Google+ happens MOST of the time, but sometimes it will work OK. And if I have problems and turn off the WiFi and change to 4G, everything will update just fine. I also don't have the problem on other wireless networks.
So most of you are probably already thinking, "well this is a problem with your wireless network." That's what I would think.... however, my wife has the same phone and hers works fine on our wireless network. The only difference is that my phone is rooted and hers is not. I am only rooted though; I am still running the stock ROM on the same version and NOT a custom ROM.
I have changed out my wireless router from a NETGEAR N600 to a NETGEAR N150 (yes, a downgrade) and that did not make a difference. There is nothing special configured on the router. I have Time Warner providing my Internet access.
I have done a factory reset on my phone (wiped data, cache partition, and Dalvik cache from ClockworkMod)... still nothing. Be aware that I do run a lot of apps though (around 165 of them).
Here's my problem - I don't use a ton of data, so going to 4G should just be a minor annoyance. However, I now have 2 Chromecasts in the house (awesome!) and I need to be on the wireless to cast a YouTube video over to it... 4G won't cut it.
Hopefully I provided enough info. I've attached a few screenshots as well. Usually I'm pretty good at figuring these kind of things out, but I'm at my wits end on this one and I know there's some really smart people on XDA so I'm hoping you guys might be able to provide some help.
Thanks!!
-- Jim
Just to add to this (and to hopefully give this a little bump), I forgot that the same problem also exists with Google Voice... when I'm at home, I usually can't listen to my voicemails through the widget unless I get off the wireless and go to 4G.
Any thoughts anyone?
-- Jim
jimmyj352 said:
Just to add to this (and to hopefully give this a little bump), I forgot that the same problem also exists with Google Voice... when I'm at home, I usually can't listen to my voicemails through the widget unless I get off the wireless and go to 4G.
Any thoughts anyone?
-- Jim
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Do other internet activities work fine on ur phone? Such as web surfing, watching youtube vids etc?
And another thing is that rooting and unlocking tends to break some software related stuffs in stock roms, and the sync issue might be related as well. I suggest that u try a custom rom and see if the problem persists. Hope that helps
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Do other internet activities work fine on ur phone? Such as web surfing, watching youtube vids etc?
And another thing is that rooting and unlocking tends to break some software related stuffs in stock roms, and the sync issue might be related as well. I suggest that u try a custom rom and see if the problem persists. Hope that helps
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Thanks, geoworld_200 - yes, all other Internet functions work just fine. In fact, I can go to the YouTube in Chrome on the phone and it works just fine, just not the app. Thanks for the thought - I'm actually a really big fan of CyanogenMod, but I'm not ready to go to it yet on this phone as the stock camera app is extremely good and I use it a lot. Any other thoughts?
-- Jim
Why are you rooted? Are you using an ad-blocker? If yes, disable it, reboot, and try again. I've seen some of Google servers end up on adblocking lists.
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Why are you rooted? Are you using an ad-blocker? If yes, disable it, reboot, and try again. I've seen some of Google servers end up on adblocking lists.
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Polobunny, that's something I didn't think of, but no I don't use an ad-blocker. I'm rooted for the backup abilities in Titanium Backup, the awesomeness of Greenify, and the ability to do small things (like rename sound files for the phone starting up or the camera shutter sounds). I like that idea though - I will try using Voodoo OTA RootKeeper to temporarily disable root when I get home. From another perspective though, that would be weird if it fixes the problem since it's only when I'm at my house... other WiFi connections work just fine. I will let you know what I find out.
-- Jim
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Polobunny, that's something I didn't think of, but no I don't use an ad-blocker. I'm rooted for the backup abilities in Titanium Backup, the awesomeness of Greenify, and the ability to do small things (like rename sound files for the phone starting up or the camera shutter sounds). I like that idea though - I will try using Voodoo OTA RootKeeper to temporarily disable root when I get home. From another perspective though, that would be weird if it fixes the problem since it's only when I'm at my house... other WiFi connections work just fine. I will let you know what I find out.
-- Jim
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I wasn't suggesting unrooting, merely disabling your ad-blocker, if you used one.
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I wasn't suggesting unrooting, merely disabling your ad-blocker, if you used one.
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Well, it made me think... why not? That's one of the only differences between my phone and my wife's (the other is that I have a ton of apps on mine). I've only used Voodoo OTA RootKeeper one time, but it looks like it will do a temporary unroot, so I'll give it a shot.
As far as the ad-blockers, while I don't have one specifically installed, is it possible that one of my other apps might be causing a similar problem?
-- Jim
Not from the top of my head.
Can you check on your S3 if http://m.youtube.com works?
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Not from the top of my head.
Can you check on your S3 if http://m.youtube.com works?
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I'm almost positive it works, but I'll double-check that for sure once I get home today.
-- Jim
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I'm almost positive it works, but I'll double-check that for sure once I get home today.
-- Jim
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I'm thinking this might be a DNS issue. You've done a lot of work already on your phone and changed your router, but I don't think you mentioned reseting your modem. That would be my next step, whether or not m.youtube.com works on your device.
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I'm thinking this might be a DNS issue. You've done a lot of work already on your phone and changed your router, but I don't think you mentioned reseting your modem. That would be my next step, whether or not m.youtube.com works on your device.
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That got me thinking a little bit as well... I returned the cable modem I had to Time Warner in January (2013) and replaced it with a Motorola SURFboard SB6141 that I bought. I just logged in and checked the stats on it and everything looks in the normal range. I'm not 100% sure, but I'm pretty confident that I've been having the problem since before the modem was swapped out.
When you say "reset the modem," are you talking about rebooting it or are you talking about resetting the configuration on it? I'm fine with either, just asking. The number show that it's been up for 31 days. The thing that keeps prodding me though is that their are no problems from at home on my wife's phone.
DNS is an interesting thought that might make the most sense... but more so a problem with it on my phone than anywhere else. Right now, my NETGEAR wireless router is dishing out the DHCP info and gives out Time Warner's DNS server addresses. I had Google's in there for a while, but changed them at one point thinking this might be related.
Is it possible that I have a bad HOSTS file entry or something when I connect to the WiFi at home? Does anyone know if the YouTube, Google+, and Google apps connect to different names or IP addresses than the mobile sites? If so, maybe I can try pinging those names or IPs that the apps go to for testing (assuming the mobile sites work fine).
Thanks!
-- Jim
jimmyj352 said:
That got me thinking a little bit as well... I returned the cable modem I had to Time Warner in January (2013) and replaced it with a Motorola SURFboard SB6141 that I bought. I just logged in and checked the stats on it and everything looks in the normal range. I'm not 100% sure, but I'm pretty confident that I've been having the problem since before the modem was swapped out.
When you say "reset the modem," are you talking about rebooting it or are you talking about resetting the configuration on it? I'm fine with either, just asking. The number show that it's been up for 31 days. The thing that keeps prodding me though is that their are no problems from at home on my wife's phone.
DNS is an interesting thought that might make the most sense... but more so a problem with it on my phone than anywhere else. Right now, my NETGEAR wireless router is dishing out the DHCP info and gives out Time Warner's DNS server addresses. I had Google's in there for a while, but changed them at one point thinking this might be related.
Is it possible that I have a bad HOSTS file entry or something when I connect to the WiFi at home? Does anyone know if the YouTube, Google+, and Google apps connect to different names or IP addresses than the mobile sites? If so, maybe I can try pinging those names or IPs that the apps go to for testing (assuming the mobile sites work fine).
Thanks!
-- Jim
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Simply reboot it, not reset the configuration my bad.
You can use Google DNS servers on your router. This would absolutely rule out that your TimeWarner DNS servers are messing up with your stuff.
I wouldn't think it would be HOSTS file issue, unless you changed something to it yourself. Even more so if it works on mobile data.
As for YT, G+ and Gapps, they use a mesh of different servers so it's a bit hard to direct you more clearly. They all use the range 184.150.x.x as far as I'm aware though.
So all in all, try rebooting your modem. Might as well unplug the router when you do so. If it works after, then yay. If not, try using Google DNS.
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Simply reboot it, not reset the configuration my bad.
You can use Google DNS servers on your router. This would absolutely rule out that your TimeWarner DNS servers are messing up with your stuff.
I wouldn't think it would be HOSTS file issue, unless you changed something to it yourself. Even more so if it works on mobile data.
As for YT, G+ and Gapps, they use a mesh of different servers so it's a bit hard to direct you more clearly. They all use the range 184.150.x.x as far as I'm aware though.
So all in all, try rebooting your modem. Might as well unplug the router when you do so. If it works after, then yay. If not, try using Google DNS.
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Thanks! I'll give that a shot and let you know!!
-- Jim
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Thanks, geoworld_200 - yes, all other Internet functions work just fine. In fact, I can go to the YouTube in Chrome on the phone and it works just fine, just not the app. Thanks for the thought - I'm actually a really big fan of CyanogenMod, but I'm not ready to go to it yet on this phone as the stock camera app is extremely good and I use it a lot. Any other thoughts?
-- Jim
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Is your bootloader unlocked?
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Is your bootloader unlocked?
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Hi geoworld - yes, the bootloader is unlocked.
As a side note, I got home today and of course wasn't having the problem. Regardless, I rebooted the modem (and router) as polobunny suggested. I also changed the DNS servers to be Google's DNS instead of the ISP's. Now I'm just waiting for the problem to happen again.
-- Jim
jimmyj352 said:
Hi geoworld - yes, the bootloader is unlocked.
As a side note, I got home today and of course wasn't having the problem. Regardless, I rebooted the modem (and router) as polobunny suggested. I also changed the DNS servers to be Google's DNS instead of the ISP's. Now I'm just waiting for the problem to happen again.
-- Jim
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So is the problem solved now?
geoworld_200 said:
So is the problem solved now?
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I don't know yet - like I mentioned in the original post, it's an intermittent issue that happens MOST of the time, but sometimes it does work. Unfortunately, it worked fine when I got home yesterday before I even made any changes so it's hard to tell if any difference was made. If it's not going to work again, I will know pretty quickly (next day or two) since that's how often it was happening. I'll keep the thread open for a few more days and update the post as I'm testing every day.
-- Jim
Last night and this morning I had no problems with Google+ or YouTube when I tested... not sure if this is a good thing or not. I hope the problem is resolved, but I still want to wait another day or so to be sure. I'll keep you posted.
-- Jim
geoworld_200 said:
So is the problem solved now?
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So things were going OK, but now I had something a little unusual... the problem happened again with Google+: "Can't load data. Check your connection"
I then went to the YouTube app and it took a loooooong time but eventually loaded. I then went back to Google+ and it loaded OK.
I'm confused.
-- Jim