I am planning on getting two motorola atrix's this tuesday for me and my wife,i am planning on getting one of the laptop docks and two computer docks, one for home and one for work. does anyone know of a workaround on getting the docks without the tethering plan?
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not sure what a computer dock is.. they have the "lapdock" that you can buy for full price without the tethering plan (so i read) some really stupid expensive price.
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/U.../ci.Motorola-ATRIX-US-EN.productCompatibility
has all the compatible accessories - the other docks are sold outright.
its is not required to get a tethering plan, as the lapdock if not a wifi device, its a screen with a keyboard. explain to them that you will have them at work where they will be used only on wifi.
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I have T-Mobile. I bought an HD2 and disliked WinMo 6.5 so much I upgraded to the MyTouch 3G Slide. Now with all of this excitement with Android on HD2 I've been experimenting with a few builds, but have found that my data plan doesn't work with Android on HD2.
For T-Mobile, evidently there are 2 different data plans, both are unlimited data down for $30 a month, exactly the same, except one is for android and one is for windows. They also have a blackberry unlimited data plan.
I don't understand why there's this distinction between internet. It sounds ridiculous to me.
If i want to test out the new HD2 Android builds I have to do without data internet, and waste the $$$ I'm spending currently, unless I switch over.
I have a $24.99 data plan I got on special for the MyTouch slide. If I switch to windows I'll pay $30 and when I switch back to android it's another $30 and I lose my $24.99 discount.
I'm also looking at the Galaxy S (Vibrant) and thinking if I purchase that phone that I'll need to switch once AGAIN.
Is there anyway to trick T-Mobile into giving me a universal data plan that'll allow me to use/review/test multiple devices?
This is really frustrating.
I never heard of such thing but you got me wondering as I don't have a data plan yet although I'm planning to by the end of the week.
where it surprises me is that with all the Android builds being developed for the HD2 no one has ever mentioned the same problem.
I wouldn't stay with that operator if they draw the line there.
Companies like that should be sued! Damn, these days everyone is restricting everything.. It's like China is relocating (sorry if I harm readers, but I dislike the principles of the chinese ideals). I think democracy, in it's purest form, letting customers (the people) decide, is the best way to achieve your goals. And not by blocking, restricting, and deciding for the ppl.
Think they are gonna lose much clients over this. But hey, that's their choice.
ok well I called TMOUS CC and made the changes to my plans.
the girl on the phone basically did confirm that there is a WinMo data plan and an Android data plan but there is no difference in the price and there is no activation fee, even later if I need to switch (at least since I don't have a contract-based plan)
She didn't tell me explicitly but the trick I guess is only to change the APN on the phone as I read a lot on XDA to get the phone to have internet. Literally she said I can find the trick by googling it... see here
I'll update later if it works since I'm waiting for the signal right now :|
edit: well it didn't take long, I now have internet (3G/HSPA) and didn't have to do anything in particular (APN is epc.tmobile.com)
Awesome! I'm getting 2908 kbps down right now. I didn't have to switch over, and I'm only paying $24.99 a month for this!!
Fracking sweet!
I do not mind the pricing of the phone. The only pricing I cannot seem to comprehend is the $45 dollar data plan that is required.
The plan is 2GB, same as AT&T's $25 dollar plan... Even the iPhone gets this same plan.
Why jack up the price on the ATRIX?
Pretty sure that's only if you pick up tethering.
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Is it possible to buy this phone off-contract?
If you're just getting the phone and nothing else (no tethering), does it still require you to change stuff on your account? (would I have to give up my unlimited data for some retarded ATT reason?)
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If you're just getting the phone and nothing else (no tethering), does it still require you to change stuff on your account? (would I have to give up my unlimited data for some retarded ATT reason?)
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I don't know for sure but I would think so.
PersonOfKnownOrigin said:
Pretty sure that's only if you pick up tethering.
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This.
If you are getting the $45 data plan price from a certain article on theandroidblog.com - it is either a typo, or the writer just didn't know what he/she was talking about.
The official press release/article with the ATT exec stated in the applicable terms that a minimum data plan of $15 is required.
Think about it. I don't know anyone that would pay $45 for 2gb of data.
RacecarBMW said:
Is it possible to buy this phone off-contract?
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A couple of places already are advertising $599 without contract, so apparently it will be available just like every other phone.
eatkabab said:
If you're just getting the phone and nothing else (no tethering), does it still require you to change stuff on your account? (would I have to give up my unlimited data for some retarded ATT reason?)
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AT&T is coding the Webtop app to require a tethering plan to use it on the AT&T network.
If you are ignoring the docks / Webtop use, you can ignore the tethering and keep your current plan.
Rastor said:
AT&T is coding the Webtop app to require a tethering plan to use it on the AT&T network.
If you are ignoring the docks / Webtop use, you can ignore the tethering and keep your current plan.
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This is all conjecture. I haven't seen anything that claims this on any news/blog/rumor site anywhere except people making weird claims on the forums.
The $45 tethering plan will get you an additional 2GB of data come February 13th for a total of 4GB.
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Ok, so the article on The Android Blog was mistyped. That is a relief. a 45 dollar plan would deter anyone from the phone. $25 is better... if only I could keep my nonsmartphone Unlimited plan for $10. :/
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This is all conjecture. I haven't seen anything that claims this on any news/blog/rumor site anywhere except people making weird claims on the forums.
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You need to search a little harder. There are a lot of news sites reporting the pricing. Click HERE for one of them.
Under the section titled "Motorola ATRIX™ 4G" you find this sentence in the third paragraph "The first combines ATRIX 4G and the Motorola Laptop Dock for a promotional price of $499.99 after a two-year service contract and $100 mail-in-rebate after subscription to Data Pro smartphone data plan and tethering add on.". This indicates that to get the package deal you have to sign up for the Data Pro plan which is $25 and the tethering add on which is an additional $20.
If you go down to the quotes section under #3 you see this "Laptop Dock - Firefox browser use with AT&T Mobile Broadband requires Tethering Plan.
". #4 of the same section is indicating that tethered devices require the DataPro Tethering Plan (which at&t could also call using the HD dock tethering).
So all in all, if you're buying the phone by itself, you don't need to change your data plan if you currently have a smartphone data plan. If you are buying one of the docks, be cautious, as they will more than likely require you to change it.
Now here is my speculation on why at&t stated this pricing to news groups and not on their website. They are hoping that the pricing of the atrix will convince a large majority of the people that were excited about it to change their mind and purchase the inspire 4g that comes out next week. They will then release a statement on their website with "revised pricing". Again, my speculation.
Mike, that's still your interpretation of it all. I hear where you're coming from, but it isn't final yet.
ATT told me, both on their Facebook page and from a PR contact, that the HD dock doesn't require the tethering plan. I'm awaiting more detail before I do a more thorough write up on it.
Your last argument about changing pricing purposefully doesn't make much business sense. No one likes to operate in a manner in which they appear to be inept. Do they do it? Sure. Purposefully? I highly doubt it.
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It doesn't require the tethering plan if you stay in Wifi mode when you're docked. Firefox browser use with AT&T Mobile Broadband requires Tethering Plan.
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It doesn't require the tethering plan if you stay in Wifi mode when you're docked. Firefox browser use with AT&T Mobile Broadband requires Tethering Plan.
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Again, that comment is preceded by "3 - Laptop Dock". When asked specifically about tethering and the HD dock (that also uses webtop and firefox), AT&T has said tethering is not required. I have inquired as to the reasoning behind this, and what it all really means. They have yet to respond with anything more than "we'll get back to you as soon as we can".
just wondering but if i get the sprint view without contract do i have to pay for a data plan to use the tab? i have tmobile and i was just planning to tether it to my phone but i like to have the option to be able to pay for service as you go
It will work fine without a data plan; you won't be able to text message. However, it will be significantly more expensive to purchase it without a contract. You are much better off either buying the US version of the Flyer at Best Buy if you are looking for a Wi-Fi only, or waiting for the the rumored T-Mobile version (which you ought to not only be able to tether to your phone but swap SIM's when you want to).
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It will work fine without a data plan; you won't be able to text message. However, it will be significantly more expensive to purchase it without a contract. You are much better off either buying the US version of the Flyer at Best Buy if you are looking for a Wi-Fi only, or waiting for the the rumored T-Mobile version (which you ought to not only be able to tether to your phone but swap SIM's when you want to).
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well im shopping around for now so if i can get the view 4g for the right price ill pull the trigger. how much is sprints pay as you go plan anyway?
Really it's cheaper to sign up for the 2 year contract. Keep it for more than a month & break the contract. So you pay $400, Get a free Pen. Then pay an additional $200 for early termination fee. It is only $20 more than buying the WiFi only Flyer and pen seperate from Best Buy. It is also Cheaper than purchasing outright from Sprint as they won't include the pen if just buing outright. Which will put it at over $700.
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Really it's cheaper to sign up for the 2 year contract. Keep it for more than a month & break the contract. So you pay $400, Get a free Pen. Then pay an additional $200 for early termination fee. It is only $20 more than buying the WiFi only Flyer and pen seperate from Best Buy. It is also Cheaper than purchasing outright from Sprint as they won't include the pen if just buing outright. Which will put it at over $700.
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I would think your money would be better spent paying $20 a month for 1GB of 3G, tbh.
I def. agree. I was running a flyer tethered off my droid X. Got the view, now I'm getting rid of the droid x and just getting a texting phone off ebay. I take the view everywhere with me so don't need two Data plans. So far the 2gig for $29 is working great as I'm on wifi around the homestead. My earlier post was comparing the flyer price to the View price. There is little sense in buying the flyer when the view is only a couple dollars more and is 32gig vs 16gig.
My "dilemma" is that I am looking for a solution that will provide communications in a lot of places and not just be dependent on WiFi. I have had several Android tablets and both versions of the iPad at one time or another (primarily setting them up for family), and up to now have relied on a PHS-300 and a USB WiMax stick for communications for the tablet, and an Optimus V on Virgin Mobile for phone/VOIP.
So I have two solutions I am considering in a couple of weeks when I get my XMas bonus. In both cases I am planning to us T-Mobile as the provider using their new $30/month plan for 5 gigs of 3G/4G data and 100 minutes of voice, and GrooveIP to do VOIP (which is what I have used on my current phone).
Solution A is to get a Samsung Exhibit II, set it up with WiFi tethering, and then get a Transformer Prime. This will require me to carry a bag with the Transformer, and means I may sometimes have to rely on the phone where it isn't convenient to lug the Prime. On the other hand, the quad-core Prime may eventually let me do things I can't do on a dual-core machine, and it is a 10+ inch screen which should make for easier reading.
Solution B is to get a Streak 7 4G model and a stereo bluetooth headset. This would mean I'd have the tablet with me all the time (I borrowed my wife's Kindle Fire and confirmed it fits in my pants pocket), although calls might be a bit inconvenient if I don't have the headset handy. That is a dual-core tablet, and at this time, I don't know of many things in the Android market that I would need more than that to do.
Solution A runs around $800-$900, while solution B runs around $500-$600. So is Solution A worth the extra $300-$400 and the occasional inconvenience? Anything you know about any of the mentioned devices I might want to be aware of?
Thanks in advance!
I think its down to how much money you are willing to spend. I would personally go with solution A as you wont regret it. The transformer prime is a fantastic tablet which is future proof, so you won't need to replace it for a year or two. The Samsung Exhibit II is also a fine phone. I think the deal is worth the extra $400. You won't have buyers remorse when there is hundreds of new quad core devices coming out soon!
I have a SGP621, been reading the posts on here but none seem to answer some of the questions I have. I do appologize if seems like some of this info I could just get myself by visiting the stores, unfortunately I have very bad experiences with AT&T sales reps, I always seem to have halfwits who know less about the phones and plans their selling then I do. plus I work almost every day, I dont have the time wait half an hour between each question so the the reps can all play "pass the question" in the hopes that the person to their left knows the answer. its irritating, frustrating, and your own personal experiences would give me a much better picture.
Also, it seems I'm one of the few who fall in the opposite category of what seems to be everyone else who bought the SGP621, I actually don't want to use it as a phone at all, I'm just tired of tethering. Ideally, I'd be happiest with a data only plan, even better if doing so could save me some cash.
AT&T questions:
Can I just get a data plan/add it as a tablet?
As a phone...would/could it be the same number as my normal phone? 2 separate numbers?
Jgonzo432 said:
Yeah, it's the same on the Z3TC. I didn't accept the download because I don't want my settings changed so I can't confirm if it has RedPocket , H2O and ATT etc...
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whats this about? is this necessary? what does it change?
How much is it to add to an existing family plan?
how much of a data usage increase do you see with this on your plan?
T-Mobile questions:
Roughly how much for the data only plan?
is it worth it considering I already have a plan with AT&T?
That's exactly what I have with tmobile... Data only... Twenty bucks a month for 1gb, and that does include the free music streaming service
Well incase anyone was wondering, I did actually have some time today. since I already have a mobile share plan with AT&T adding my tablet was pretty cheap.
Its $10 for a tablet (data only), $15 for a phone (phone+data)
When they stuck a sim card in my tablet, AT&T gets confused, classifying it as 2 different things on 2 different levels and thus they could not simply add it. Instead they had to use the serial from one of the instore display devices, so they gave me the option to classify it as a tablet or phone. Even though I was planning to go tablet, 5 dollar diff? i went phone. seems to be working fine so far.
Consider the $15/mo tablet data plan thru Harbor Mobile ($15 for 5GBs). They are simply reselling a T-Mo business line I believe and could prob go under and leave you hanging at any moment...but if you don't have a phone number to lose, who cares.