I personally don't fancy the new SGS for the following reason:
SGS2 scores on stock rom 100 points more in Quadrant than my SGS1(~1500). Dual cores are not going to be used for the next 1 year, only a few minor apps.
So why should I buy SGS2?
For bigger screen? 4.0 is already big enough in my pocket.
Samoled+? I don't think it's so much nicer, the one without + is awesome enough!
I don't see too much improvement in SGS2, I'd rather give Optimus 3d a go!
Are you one of those people who decided to stick with 32-bit processors because there's not much to gain from buying a 64-bit one?
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Haha, lol no I have 64bit.
I'm talking about the fact, that dual cores are not going to be used too much until the end of this year. Devs are making apps to popular phones/systems. They will only implement dual core acceleration if they see it's enough users.
So for 1 year you'll only see several apps using dual core, so it won't worth buying. Only reason to buy is maybe multitasking. But that's alone is not enough for me.
I would buy it because the Captivate was so well supported by Developers and made the Captivate an amazing device. Atrix looks like a fail out the gate not allowing kernel development.
So far i like what I see here...although Samsung is not customer centirc in the US anyway.
A lot of devices will be available on ATT this year 11 Android phones. Lots to choose from
Soniboy84 said:
I personally don't fancy the new SGS for the following reason:
SGS2 scores on stock rom 100 points more in Quadrant than my SGS1(~1500). Dual cores are not going to be used for the next 1 year, only a few minor apps.
So why should I buy SGS2?
For bigger screen? 4.0 is already big enough in my pocket.
Samoled+? I don't think it's so much nicer, the one without + is awesome enough!
I don't see too much improvement in SGS2, I'd rather give Optimus 3d a go!
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1) Why are people so obsessed with a synthetic benchmark?! It's just stupid. My HTC Desire gets 2100 and it lags more than my San Francisco (~900), it proves nothing. Furthermore the Exynos is rather new, I'm sure there is a lot of headroom for optimisation in the driver department.
2) A single app may not be using boh two cores at the moment. But are you running a single app on your phone at once? No. You're running an app, lots of services, broadcast receivers, and the system itself. Enough to keep both cores busy.
3) About the screen read here. It will be nicer by a fair amount.
I assume that even if apps won't immediately be using both cores to their advantage, the Samsung system will, considering... well, it's natively made for that particular model.
There will probably be some sort of system or optimization that will separate tasks for the Android system (or parts of it) to use one core, and applications to use the other core (or possibly use both if the option is enabled).
Hell, at this point, for all we know, the system is completely optimized for this dual core process and controls every aspect so not only is the entire phone running at it's most efficiency with the cores in respect, but it's also possibly saving battery life.
Hard to know considering the specs were only released a while ago. It also doesn't help that there's only one other dual-core phone that is out right now to compare, and it was only released a few days ago, so developers still have to see how exactly the Android system handles the technology.
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1) Why are people so obsessed with a synthetic benchmark?! It's just stupid. My HTC Desire gets 2100 and it lags more than my San Francisco (~900), it proves nothing. Furthermore the Exynos is rather new, I'm sure there is a lot of headroom for optimisation in the driver department.
2) A single app may not be using boh two cores at the moment. But are you running a single app on your phone at once? No. You're running an app, lots of services, broadcast receivers, and the system itself. Enough to keep both cores busy.
3) About the screen read here. It will be nicer by a fair amount.
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Just a bit of fix here, just a bit of improvement there, I see no inventional feature in the SGS2 to make me buy it. On the other hand, Lg....
I will tell you why you want the new device:
Because you got a thing for shiny new gadgets like all of us!
You must resist the force.
I want to get this one because I am fed up with my SE Walkman 580i. Perfectly valid reason I think ?
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2) A single app may not be using boh two cores at the moment. But are you running a single app on your phone at once? No. You're running an app, lots of services, broadcast receivers, and the system itself. Enough to keep both cores busy.
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Yes allow me to agree here
Multicore support is already there in linux.
Should also be used on some native linux apps.
Looks from http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-3.0-highlights.html that only the java apps don't benefit from it yet.
Well if you're not looking to future proof yourself, then obviously the galaxy s II isn't marketed to you. >.> So no reason for you to buy it then.
3) About the screen read . It will be nicer by a fair amount.[/QUOTE]
is it just me or is this a Amoled vs Super Amoled Plus.
Not Super Amoled vs Super Amoled Plus (Thats what I would like to see)
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3) About the screen read . It will be nicer by a fair amount.
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is it just me or is this a Amoled vs Super Amoled Plus.
Not Super Amoled vs Super Amoled Plus (Thats what I would like to see)[/QUOTE]
It is my understanding that super amoled is just and amoled screen with built in touch screen instead of a separate layer.
Either way though, the pentile layout is the same, so that picture is still indicative of the improvement.
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It is my understanding that super amoled is just and amoled screen with built in touch screen instead of a separate layer.
Either way though, the pentile layout is the same, so that picture is still indicative of the improvement.
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I thought SuperAmoled Plus did away with Pentile Matrix and instead uses RGB striping like regular LCD screens.
http://www.oled-info.com/super-amoled-plus-resolution-explained
To Add to the topic
I am actually considering the SGS 2 and lg optimus 3D ( for the 3d screen and camera )
Regarding SGS 2
I am hoping cause its similiar to the NExus S, It will be easily rooted and more support from devs
Also being dual core and having nfc support its future proof as most of you know in uk you have to sign for 24 months contract
regardless of the fact that there may not be much apps optimised for dual core, I am sure the current apps should run pretty fast cause of the dual cores and multi tasking should be a breeze.
And I for one love big screens ( having a HTC HD 7) I just love the browsing experience on big screens
But windows need a major overhaul and my HTC Hero is becoming History pretty soon
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I thought SuperAmoled Plus did away with Pentile Matrix and instead uses RGB striping like regular LCD screens.
http://www.oled-info.com/super-amoled-plus-resolution-explained
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It does? That's what I said... Both AMOLED and Super AMOLED use pentile, so the comparison to Super AMOLED Plus is still valid.
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It does? That's what I said... Both AMOLED and Super AMOLED use pentile, so the comparison to Super AMOLED Plus is still valid.
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I must have read your post wrong. I thought you said superamoled plus.
The thing is you are paying for hardware that is either not yet supported or not for immediate use.
NFC is but one. It's an expensive add-on that won't really see any benefit until the industry adopts it.
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Beards said:
The thing is you are paying for hardware that is either not yet supported or not for immediate use.
NFC is but one. It's an expensive add-on that won't really see any benefit until the industry adopts it.
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The price of future-proofing youtself? For Asian countries I'm sure this will be a welcome move.
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The price of future-proofing youtself? For Asian countries I'm sure this will be a welcome move.
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Maybe so, but not at the expense of everyone else who won't get to see or use the technology.
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Hey everyone, currently i have HTC desire and i'm about to buy a new phone... Which phone should i get? Galaxy S II,evo 3d or optimus 3d? The most thing i care about is the hardware,which phone is faster and of course updates... I've heard that galaxy s2 and optimus 3d are both great phones, but i need to pick the right one as i wont be buying another phone for a few months One thing i dont like about the galaxy s tho, is the 3 buttons. The standard buttons for an android phone are 4, right? dunno if that will lead to any probs in some apps? anyways, hope you guys can help me out to pick the right phone
Well the only button you're missing is search. And unless you search a lot, then it's pretty much more of nuisance than a function.
For the evo 3d/optimus, do you need 3d? Do your eyes hurt when viewing 3d? Are you willing to pay the extra buck just for 3d? Do you even want 3d videos or pictures? Those are questions you have to ask yourself.
Now obviously in terms of regular screen use to the average consumer, the galaxy s 2 comes 1st with it's top notch super amoled plus display. It also has size in it's favour also, with being extra thing to very light. CPU? Well i'm in favour of samsung's exynos being the best right now. Nothing really to back it up right now however, but it's better than tegra 2 at the very least. Also if you're a media hog, the galaxy s 2 is your device.
However you're not really going to get the best answers here due to the fact that you're asking in a sgs 2 forum, which naturally, should be populated by users who favour the sgs 2.
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Well the only button you're missing is search. And unless you search a lot, then it's pretty much more of nuisance than a function.
For the evo 3d/optimus, do you need 3d? Do your eyes hurt when viewing 3d? Are you willing to pay the extra buck just for 3d? Do you even want 3d videos or pictures? Those are questions you have to ask yourself.
Now obviously in terms of regular screen use to the average consumer, the galaxy s 2 comes 1st with it's top notch super amoled plus display. It also has size in it's favour also, with being extra thing to very light. CPU? Well i'm in favour of samsung's exynos being the best right now. Nothing really to back it up right now however, but it's better than tegra 2 at the very least. Also if you're a media hog, the galaxy s 2 is your device.
However you're not really going to get the best answers here due to the fact that you're asking in a sgs 2 forum, which naturally, should be populated by users who favour the sgs 2.
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Hmm great answer bud, and no, I'm really not that much into 3d. I'm really considering to buy this phone when it comes out, i just hope they will care enough to update their software when a new android version is out. Another reason too buy this phone is that, here in norway we will get the Exynos version that is running at 1,2 GHz.
Put 3D, AMOLED and CPU aside, i'll still favour SGSII over an HTC/LG phone because of its superior camera and audio quality.
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However you're not really going to get the best answers here due to the fact that you're asking in a sgs 2 forum, which naturally, should be populated by users who favour the sgs 2.
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This is so true.
btw does anyone know how many multitouch it supports?
i remember the screen of the original SGS can handle 16 points simultaneously so i expect SGSII will be as good as that at least. any screen that can track more than 2 touches accurately is good compare to my HTC Desire lol
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i remember the screen of the original SGS can handle 16 points simultaneously so i expect SGSII will be as good as that at least. any screen that can track more than 2 touches accurately is good compare to my HTC Desire lol
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haha that's right, i can't stand the multitouch on my desire. But 16 points simultaneously :O thats awesome
I'm also on the HTC desire, and the memory issues have forced me to set A2SD (SLOW) in order to make the phone useable.
IMHO, the fact that the original galaxy s has a GPU that still outperforms anything out there ATM is a key indicator of the sheer power we should await with the sII's quad-core mali 400
As for the evo, the processor still relies on an A8 cortex, while the SII uses an A9... plus Super Amoled Plus is VERY key
Just putting it out there. The A9 holds no advantages over A8 that are being used in any of the phones they have been produced in (DDR3 ram isn't being used in any phones are they?). So it is irrelevant right now to say a phone is better since it has a A9 core.
I'm going for the Galaxy S 2. Amazing g camera, I love the build quality, I like the slim design, and the speed will be awesome.
They're all great phones but I don't really need aa 3D display, nor do I want one. I life in a 3D world, I don't want my movies to be in 3D, it takes away from the experience.
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IMHO, the fact that the original galaxy s has a GPU that still outperforms anything out there ATM is a key indicator of the sheer power we should await with the sII's quad-core mali 400
As for the evo, the processor still relies on an A8 cortex, while the SII uses an A9... plus Super Amoled Plus is VERY key
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Can't agree more... I'm using a SE Xperia arc atm which is considered (with its "Bravia engine" label) to have one of the best non Super amoled screen from many reviewers and man... it is still a big piece of crap omg I forgot how to watch that type of screens after spending 6 month with my Galaxy S
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haha that's right, i can't stand the multitouch on my desire. But 16 points simultaneously :O thats awesome
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The Desire and Nexus One were the last devices HTC put that pathetic touch screen on. The latest thing I heard HTC used was the Maxtouch, which supposedly supports "unlimited" (probably 10-16) touches.
Even so, I still would get the SGSII. It just seems amazing.
touness69 said:
Can't agree more... I'm using a SE Xperia arc atm which is considered (with its "Bravia engine" label) to have one of the best non Super amoled screen from many reviewers and man... it is still a big piece of crap omg I forgot how to watch that type of screens after spending 6 month with my Galaxy S
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HTC launches 5 phones to beat the competition and Samsung release one phone....like Samsung Galaxy s was most selling Android Device ever...mean while HTC release a new phone every month like crazy....lol....LG has some good android phones but none can beat galaxy S series..so forget about Galaxy S2....I use galaxy S and I am telling you i cannot live without SAMOLED screen...just imagine advance version of that...
Even in this comparison between HTC sensation and SGS 2,......I think Samsung beat HTC again......Even tho I dont know how good TouchWiz 4.0 will be...But still it will be better then HTC sense...And I am hoping it will be easy to root and Custom Rommed as Current galaxy S series...Looking forward to buy this phone...
Kailkti said:
Just putting it out there. The A9 holds no advantages over A8 that are being used in any of the phones they have been produced in (DDR3 ram isn't being used in any phones are they?). So it is irrelevant right now to say a phone is better since it has a A9 core.
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A9 features out of order processing so runs faster in bottle necks - also over clocks better
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A9 features out of order processing so runs faster in bottle necks - also over clocks better
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what do you mean with overclock better? does it run at lower voltage than a typical a8 then?
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what do you mean with overclock better? does it run at lower voltage than a typical a8 then?
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I'm assuming (and correct me if I'm wrong) that the chips are able to handle being overclocked better than others. THey might not generate as much heat; if they do however, they would be more stable than other.
Similar to the chip in the Inspire and G2 OC'ing to 1.5 and being stable.
FLAC Vest said:
I'm assuming (and correct me if I'm wrong) that the chips are able to handle being overclocked better than others. THey might not generate as much heat; if they do however, they would be more stable than other.
Similar to the chip in the Inspire and G2 OC'ing to 1.5 and being stable.
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well, i dont know aswell, if the chip is based on smaller nm scale then yeah that would probably make a bit more sense as it would require less voltage, but i have no information about the chip differences right now.
Just a waiting game until the device is out.
If OC'ing this device does actually occur (which it eventually would), then I wonder the affect it would have on the battery. Although, I think having Dual Core 1.2Ghz is quite sufficient at the moment.
I guess there will be diffrent profiles so you can change clock and volt.
So it takes less power on standby .
On my Noka N900 i have a widget so i can change overclock in seconds.
950mhz when surfing and when i need to save batteri i choise another profile ..
C'mon this thing is a savage beast ! I would rather think of Underclocking it ! Exynos Dual core at 1Ghz should be sufficient to do EVERYTHING you can do on an android smartphone and that includes the most demanding games and every task you can imagine, I mean just watch all the vids of those prototypes runnig buttery smooth and they're all running at 1Ghz
OMG I can't wait this is so epic
Without a doubt, HTC and tmo have released some pretty amazing devices, Sensation, Amaze, Mytouch 4g slide, etc... Now, the One is coming to tmo, would you upgrade to it?
Here's my opinion, apperently, the model Us carriers will get will be dual-core, because apperently LTE is not compatible with quad core CPUs. I think one of the disadvantages of getting the One is that when LTE comes out, we won't be able to use it. But, tmo's 4g is pretty good already. So, would I upgrade? Yes. Hd screen, ICS with sense 4.0, 8mp cam, to take 1080p vids and pics at the same time, pretty good.
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Title is misleading because it is, also yes I will upgrade. I'm very big on photo's and the camera wouldn't be the same on the Amaze, the sensors are outstanding! Smart Flash! Sense 4.0 and way more development because the ones are a world phone! It's faster than the amaze and all benchmark test that i have seen and its running stock! Imagine custom roms! Even thought quadrant itsn't everything! Plus its smaller and thinner. Beats audio integration throughout the whole phone! I know dsp manager is their but i hate opening it all the time. So yes when it comes out I am getting the one s hands down! Also! the one S is dual core so theirs no LTE Problem im pretty sure Tmo will make it so we can use our phones otherwise thats bad marketing. Also a better front camera which will help with video conferencing I can't wait.
One X
Its a very nice phone, definitely some nice minor upgrades over the amaze but to me it isn't worth it. I've decided to stick with the amaze and see what the Galaxy S III has to offer. I want a quad core phone with an Hd screen, I won't settle for something with capacitive buttons(with the amaze as an exception) especially now that android 4.0 supports buttons on the touch screen.
It's funny how when people hear that the US version is getting a dual core instead of the quad core people assume it's worse but in fact the Snapdragon S4(Dual Core) is faster than the Tegra 3(Quad Core) and US carriers will be getting a better phone than the UK.
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newbieandroid said:
It's funny how when people hear that the US version is getting a dual core instead of the quad core people assume it's worse but in fact the Snapdragon S4(Dual Core) is faster than the Tegra 3(Quad Core) and US carriers will be getting a better phone than the UK.
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Ikr! Its like the AMD P920 (Quad) and the Intel i5 (Dual) ones Dual ones quad but intel kicks that possessors A**. Plus a lot of apps aren't customized for Multi core anyway.
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Ikr! Its like the AMD P920 (Quad) and the Intel i5 (Dual) ones Dual ones quad but intel kicks that possessors A**. Plus a lot of apps aren't customized for Multi core anyway.
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Plus were using phones, a quad core which actually has 5 cores would use more power than the Snapdragon S4. That is why I don't overclock my phones. Unless I can keep the voltage the same. A phone is meant for making calls and to in keep contact with people.
What would you rather have a Core i7 2600 or a FX-8150 which is slower and consumes more power but has 4 more cores?(Which are actually modules but AMD product management sucks and decide to advertise them as eight core processors)
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Plus were using phones, a quad core which actually has 5 cores would use more power than the Snapdragon S4. That is why I don't overclock my phones. Unless I can keep the voltage the same. A phone is meant for making calls and to in keep contact with people.
What would you rather have a Core i7 2600 or a FX-8150 which is slower and consumes more power but has 4 more cores?(Which are actually modules but AMD product management sucks and decide to advertise them as eight core processors)
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I have an i7 2600K and 4 Crossfired AMD 6990's and that thing is a power hog, but the possessor isn't a thing with phones.
I know the minute i get an HTC One device, and find a happy home for my amaze, google wallet will be available for the amaze 4g.. With some awesome promo. Not that much of an upgrade. Im perfectly happy with my camera. Not worth it. I have a standard camera for that.
I forgot which Android blog, but I just read about a "reliable" rumor that tmo is gonna get the one x without lte capabilities (ie the international quad-core version, cuz the hspa+ is good enough they say) and it's likely going to be a "G" device - like the G1, G2, etc. which means it'll be vanilla ics.
If this is true I know exactly where every single dev is going...and I'm gonna try my hardest to follow, haha.
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I've been following the hands-on reports and such from Barcelona. All I can say is,
Take everything with a grain of salt, the reporters in Barcelona are sometimes getting their facts wrong,
Details about what will be sold in the US are still not finalized,
Real world testing and independent benchmarking of the total package have not happened,
The One S (remember, T-Mo isn't getting the big dog One X) has a smaller battery, it could have even worse battery life issues,....
I'm disappointed in the chronic problems I've had with the Amaze ... I might upgrade if T-Mobile gets tired of supporting my Amaze! But ... I've just read that T-Mo might only offer the "painted" model, not the one with the plasma-anodized aluminum.
I understand the use of the S4 processor is because the LTE radio is integrated in the chip (not a separate component as in the Amaze) ... Euro LTE markets will get the S4 as well.
I understand the Tegra3 is a 4+1 chip, with a "low-power chip" for "sleep mode." Dunno if the S4 has anything comparable. Based on what I've read, I'm not sure the Tegra is better than the S4.... Anyway, AT&T's getting the S4 too, and ... I'm not sure if will be a 32GB or 16GB version of the One X.
The lack of removable battery, and lack of Micro-SD slot, are giving a lot of people concern on AndroidCentral and other Android sites. What good is a hot diggity 1080p video recorder if you only have some subset of 16GB (9GB like our Amaze?) to record with, then have to slowly upload to Dropbox? Humbug.
Also, the screen of the One S is no more higher res than the Amaze. Same size. In fact, the One X and S have a similar body to the Amaze, leading me to think the Amaze was the "first draft" of a design concept.
I think while some media sources are drinking the Kool-Aid and proclaiming the One series as the best thing since integrated circuit chips, my own impression is that both S an X comprise some glaring compromises (size for battery, cool unibody case for user-replaceable memory card).
Would I upgrade? Well ... much was made of the dedicated camera buttons on the Amaze, and guess what's noticeably missing from the One models? I used those buttons all day at the Monterey Bay Aquarium earlier this month....
ChromeJob said:
I've been following the hands-on reports and such from Barcelona. All I can say is,
Take everything with a grain of salt, the reporters in Barcelona are sometimes getting their facts wrong,
Details about what will be sold in the US are still not finalized,
Real world testing and independent benchmarking of the total package have not happened,
The One S (remember, T-Mo isn't getting the big dog One X) has a smaller battery, it could have even worse battery life issues,....
I'm disappointed in the chronic problems I've had with the Amaze ... I might upgrade if T-Mobile gets tired of supporting my Amaze! But ... I've just read that T-Mo might only offer the "painted" model, not the one with the plasma-anodized aluminum.
I understand the use of the S4 processor is because the LTE radio is integrated in the chip (not a separate component as in the Amaze) ... Euro LTE markets will get the S4 as well.
I understand the Tegra3 is a 4+1 chip, with a "low-power chip" for "sleep mode." Dunno if the S4 has anything comparable. Based on what I've read, I'm not sure the Tegra is better than the S4.... Anyway, AT&T's getting the S4 too, and ... I'm not sure if will be a 32GB or 16GB version of the One X.
The lack of removable battery, and lack of Micro-SD slot, are giving a lot of people concern on AndroidCentral and other Android sites. What good is a hot diggity 1080p video recorder if you only have some subset of 16GB (9GB like our Amaze?) to record with, then have to slowly upload to Dropbox? Humbug.
Also, the screen of the One S is no more higher res than the Amaze. Same size. In fact, the One X and S have a similar body to the Amaze, leading me to think the Amaze was the "first draft" of a design concept.
I think while some media sources are drinking the Kool-Aid and proclaiming the One series as the best thing since integrated circuit chips, my own impression is that both S an X comprise some glaring compromises (size for battery, cool unibody case for user-replaceable memory card).
Would I upgrade? Well ... much was made of the dedicated camera buttons on the Amaze, and guess what's noticeably missing from the One models? I used those buttons all day at the Monterey Bay Aquarium earlier this month....
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Agreed, not much more to say. Excellent summary, my good man. Haha
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TramainM said:
I have an i7 2600K and 4 Crossfired AMD 6990's and that thing is a power hog, but the possessor isn't a thing with phones.
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You can't crossfire 4 6990's.... I have a Core i7 970 overclocked to 4.6ghz with 2 GTX 470's in SLI overclocked at 825Mhz
ChromeJob said:
I've been following the hands-on reports and such from Barcelona. All I can say is,
Take everything with a grain of salt, the reporters in Barcelona are sometimes getting their facts wrong,
Details about what will be sold in the US are still not finalized,
Real world testing and independent benchmarking of the total package have not happened,
The One S (remember, T-Mo isn't getting the big dog One X) has a smaller battery, it could have even worse battery life issues,....
I'm disappointed in the chronic problems I've had with the Amaze ... I might upgrade if T-Mobile gets tired of supporting my Amaze! But ... I've just read that T-Mo might only offer the "painted" model, not the one with the plasma-anodized aluminum.
I understand the use of the S4 processor is because the LTE radio is integrated in the chip (not a separate component as in the Amaze) ... Euro LTE markets will get the S4 as well.
I understand the Tegra3 is a 4+1 chip, with a "low-power chip" for "sleep mode." Dunno if the S4 has anything comparable. Based on what I've read, I'm not sure the Tegra is better than the S4.... Anyway, AT&T's getting the S4 too, and ... I'm not sure if will be a 32GB or 16GB version of the One X.
The lack of removable battery, and lack of Micro-SD slot, are giving a lot of people concern on AndroidCentral and other Android sites. What good is a hot diggity 1080p video recorder if you only have some subset of 16GB (9GB like our Amaze?) to record with, then have to slowly upload to Dropbox? Humbug.
Also, the screen of the One S is no more higher res than the Amaze. Same size. In fact, the One X and S have a similar body to the Amaze, leading me to think the Amaze was the "first draft" of a design concept.
I think while some media sources are drinking the Kool-Aid and proclaiming the One series as the best thing since integrated circuit chips, my own impression is that both S an X comprise some glaring compromises (size for battery, cool unibody case for user-replaceable memory card).
Would I upgrade? Well ... much was made of the dedicated camera buttons on the Amaze, and guess what's noticeably missing from the One models? I used those buttons all day at the Monterey Bay Aquarium earlier this month....
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It's kind of hard making a quad core more efficient than a dual core when all 4 cores are going to be running constantly without powering off. If anything the HTC One X will have the same amount of battery as the One S. On HTC's website it has the specs and the Battery on the One S is a 1650 mAh and the One X is 1800. The screen on the One S is a Super AMOLED screen which is a major improvement over any of HTC's old screens.
The One X US version is getting a dual core:
http://www.htc.com/us/products/htconex-att#tech-specs
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You can't crossfire 4 6990's.... I have a Core i7 970 overclocked to 4.6ghz with 2 GTX 470's in SLI overclocked at 825Mhz
It's kind of hard making a quad core more efficient than a dual core when all 4 cores are going to be running constantly without powering off. If anything the HTC One X will have the same amount of battery as the One S. On HTC's website it has the specs and the Battery on the One S is a 1650 mAh and the One X is 1800. The screen on the One S is a Super AMOLED screen which is a major improvement over any of HTC's old screens.
The One X US version is getting a dual core:
http://www.htc.com/us/products/htconex-att#tech-specs
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I put cross fire bridges on the first two and the second two...
ChromeJob expressed it better than I could. Keeping in mind that I'm probably older than the majority of the main demographic here and I consider my phone a tool more than a trendsetter, fashion statement, toy, and so forth, I don't see what's so great about the One S compared to the Amaze.
As I said in another subforum, the HTC One S is HTC's vision of an iPhone that runs ICS. Make key components non-user-removable, wow the press with hype, remove physical buttons (camera), dog it with some of the hardware (VGA FFC), and (likely) charge customers out the ass for it.
Also, while I did say that I don't care to have a phone as a fashion statement, aesthetics still matter in the sense that they could be a tiebreaker in deciding between phones that are otherwise close in specs. The styling of the One S is bland to me.
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ChromeJob expressed it better than I could. Keeping in mind that I'm probably older than the majority of the main demographic here and I consider my phone a tool more than a trendsetter, fashion statement, toy, and so forth, I don't see what's so great about the One S compared to the Amaze.
As I said in another subforum, the HTC One S is HTC's vision of an iPhone that runs ICS. Make key components non-user-removable, wow the press with hype, remove physical buttons (camera), dog it with some of the hardware (VGA FFC), and (likely) charge customers out the ass for it.
Also, while I did say that I don't care to have a phone as a fashion statement, aesthetics still matter in the sense that they could be a tiebreaker in deciding between phones that are otherwise close in specs. The styling of the One S is bland to me.
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+1 all the One S has over the amaze is s4 processor (which i believe is better than t3) dual channel ram, and maybe a slightly better camera. (im sure its just software though)
I will not be upgrading. I can't express how good of a phone the amaze is. Its very unique looking (front maybe looks like a sensation but the back is very nice) it has an amazing build quality, it out preforms my daily tasks. Phone/SMS/Video/Pictures and a game here and there. The Amaze is still a great phone and i believe it will still be a good phone even when T3 and S4 chips come out. Once we achieve S-OFF i think there will be more developers for the amaze.
I dont know how you guys are upgrading so fast. I recently got my Amaze, and this phone just came out in oCtober of last year? not even 6 months ago. It is still a pretty expensive phone. I would rather stick with amaze love the camera and recording buttons, the 2mp front facing camera, the amazing 8Mp camera, and how reliable it is, no dropped calls or anything
I've preordered the HTC One X from Expansys. I have an Amaze and love it (I'm typing this post on it)....but I'm still excited to get the quad core version of the One X...
Wasn't me!! I didn't do it!
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned already but I read last night that the X one my come to tmobile as the next G series phone and my be stock Ics!!!
Check it out over here at the rumor farm -
http://androidandme.com/2012/02/sma...e-to-get-stock-android-4-0-and-quad-core-cpu/
Too bad I really needed a new phone in December. Otherwise this was exactly what I was waiting for! O well...
Good thing about owning the amaze is its new enough to where when the new line rolls out, we can sit back for a bit, watch development, and catch it at a better price down the road
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I'm happy with the screen on the Amaze, SuperLCD? I've had a SGS2 owner admit that mine has nicer color, clarity, etc.
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It's funny how when people hear that the US version is getting a dual core instead of the quad core people assume it's worse but in fact the Snapdragon S4(Dual Core) is faster than the Tegra 3(Quad Core) and US carriers will be getting a better phone than the UK.
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The one s has a dual core, the overseas version of the one X has a dualcore. I'm not sure about the S4, i hear its nice but what has me leaning to the quadcore is that i hear it has a small core to help save battery?
Hey guys, I've got kinda a two parter question..
The first is this, do you think the SGS2 will be able to keep up as a leading Android phone or at least pretty high end for another year or two? Also will development keep up for much longer? Or would it be more logical to wait for the SGS3 and go for that?
And, assuming it would stay active and strong, do you think the price would drop once the SGS3 comes out dramatically? As in is it worth getting it now or should I wait for the SGS3 one way or the other.
Thanks in advanced!
The hardware of the sgs II is pretty nice. As you can see, the xperia s and the new htc smartphones (one s, one x) got sgs II-hardware.
This means our lovely galaxy will stay at top of all for at least a few more month. Then the sgs III will be released.
Thanks to apples 4s, htc one s x and the xperia s the sgs II is nowhere near being outdated.
One more thing, 4.3 inch is the limit for me! I dont see why people would buy the sgs III with a 4.65 inch display.
thats true haha, the size is the thing that worries me... however the screen covers more of the front so im thinking the actual SIZE of the phone won`t be that much greater
I can get a rooted with ICS installed SGS2 for 400$... is that good you think?
the only thing pulling me to SGS3 is how much longer itll probably last than the SGS2 just being released over a year later... but price worries me of it too since people are guessing over 800 and thats too much for me :S
Also would be nice for continued dev support
Try and get it cheaper without root and ICS as you can apply both of those yourself with all the guides available here. I'm not sure what the selling price is for the gs2 is in $, so the price you quoted could be cheap as it is lol
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Try and get it cheaper without root and ICS as you can apply both of those yourself with all the guides available here. I'm not sure what the selling price is for the gs2 is in $, so the price you quoted could be cheap as it is lol
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Yeah no they're all around 400$ give or take 25, all i would need is to make sure that the screen has NO scratches and that it works XD the root and ICS was just a bonus haha
I'm guessing it's probably best to get a phone that hasn't been flashed or altered. At least that way you'll know the original firmwares etc of the phone.
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I'm guessing it's probably best to get a phone that hasn't been flashed or altered. At least that way you'll know the original firmwares etc of the phone.
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That's a good point... less risky. My main thing is, is the SGS3 gonna be worth the 2 month+ wait and the extra like 300$+... waiting isn't a big deal, 300-400 dollars is XD
Pretty much in the same boat as you. My contract with Sprint will be up this Summer, so looking into a GS3 (or other quadcore handset). I've heard the GS3 may launch next month in England, though not sure about the rest of the world. I've read conflicting reports on whether there will be a unified global launch, so it's possible N. America will have to wait until Fall again.
Another thing to note is that while Tegra 3 is benchmarking better than all the dual core ARM processors out there, it performs really poorly compared to Apple's A5X chip. Given this, it's probably not a stretch that SG3's Exynos 3 will outperform it as well. There's also Snapdragon, though that isn't expected until Q4.
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Another thing to note is that while Tegra 3 is benchmarking better than all the dual core ARM processors out there, it performs really poorly compared to Apple's A5X chip. Given this, it's probably not a stretch that SG3's Exynos 3 will outperform it as well. There's also Snapdragon, though that isn't expected until Q4.
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That's probably because the iPad 3 has a quad core gpu. Plus you have to remember Tegra 3 was already late to the game. It was supposed to be out last summer but as usual Nvidia can never deliver anything on time!
Also no apps seem to be using more than 2 cores. Most are only utilizing 1.
The quad Exynos will only come close to the A5X gpu performance if they use at least a dual core Mali 600.
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One of the main reasons im considering the SGS3 is cause i think that android and apps are starting to become optimized for more than single core.
For me though the main selling point isn't actually the GPU, but rather the huge battery (anything over 2k is awesome!) and the tons of RAM, nice internal storage, SD card, and if this phone is any indication, probably good dev support I would get the HTC One S if it werent for the no SD card and pretty small battery :/
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Also no apps seem to be using more than 2 cores. Most are only utilizing 1.
The quad Exynos will only come close to the A5X gpu performance if they use at least a dual core Mali 600.
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Really? That's unfortunate. I thought ICS automated much of this, though I suppose it makes sense that each developer would need to add support from their end.
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I would get the HTC One S if it werent for the no SD card and pretty small battery :/
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I know. The Nexus Prime has that issue as well. I'd imagine flashing ROMs would be unnecessarily complicated, since they have one giant partition.
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I know. The Nexus Prime has that issue as well. I'd imagine flashing ROMs would be unnecessarily complicated, since they have one giant partition.
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I'm not so sure about that, i think it wouldn't cause too much trouble, but the thing is with 16 gb of internal memory, after ICS and sense and bloat, that'll leave probably less than 10gb of actually usable memory which is too little for me in the long run :/
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Really? That's unfortunate. I thought ICS automated much of this, though I suppose it makes sense that each developer would need to add support from their end.
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I believe it is up to the developer. Same as hardware acceleration.
Hell even Adobe Photoshop only used a single core all the way up to CS5.
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I would just go for the S2 as soon as the retailers in your area starts to sell them out cheap (to get rid of stock before launch of S3).
It's a great phone, still getting updates from Samsung - resulting in great mods from the XDA community.
And when the time comes that you'll be needing more power, just overclock it - extending the lifetime of it (for your use, NOT the phone itself).
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I would just go for the S2 as soon as the retailers in your area starts to sell them out cheap (to get rid of stock before launch of S3).
It's a great phone, still getting updates from Samsung - resulting in great mods from the XDA community.
And when the time comes that you'll be needing more power, just overclock it - extending the lifetime of it (for your use, NOT the phone itself).
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Yeah that was definitely one of things I was considering, IF the price drops by saaay.. 30%? Bring it from 600 to 400 new, I think I could go for that. But if the SGS3 is less than 800 its definitely in my radar
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This sounds very much like the deliberation I have when buying any new piece of tech, such as a laptop, always looking for the next new thing and wondering whether to wait or take the plunge now.
I would vote for an SGS2. It's a super phone with a massive modding community behind it to at least push it for another 1.5 to 2 years. I've had mine since July of last year and I'm only now seeing other phones catching up so you certainly would be behind the times with an SGS2.
do u all think that S3 should be bought by the user who already uses an
S2.
S3 specs are:- |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| S2 specs are:-
1280x720p super amoled hd(not plus)|||||||||||| 800x480 super amoled plus
1.4ghz exynos quad core(28nm)||||||||||||||||| 1.2 ghz exynos dual core(45or32)
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1gb ram ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 1gb ram
and customized interface.(new touchwiz)|||||||| touchwiz ux(4)
should S3 be purchased by an enthusiast if he already owns an
Galaxy S2????
S3 to the S2 is what the iphone 4s is to the iphone 4
Look at the main differences, they are only software oriented... The only upgrade is maybe the camera, the quad core cpu (with same gpu) and the led notification light... The super amoled hd is a pentile screen...
Not digging my pockets this year
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S3 to the S2 is what the iphone 4s is to the iphone 4
Look at the main differences, they are only software oriented... The only upgrade is maybe the camera, the quad core cpu (with same gpu) and the led notification light... The super amoled hd is a pentile screen...
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thats what i was thinking.
cause the camera is the same old 8 mp cmos sensor but flatpanel.
just the screen size,resolution and the processor has been changed.
so i think would stick to my S2 for one year more and wait for S4.
my DAD will be happy that this year his wallet will not be empty like last 2 years.
Other than the screen and battery, there's nothing I want over s2 TBH. When's the last time you found s2's CPU struggle with anything? Now what you going to do with a quad core CPU that put some laptops to shame?
I know most S2 users will say it's not worth it, but after reading both the engadget and androidcentral coverage (and also technobuffalo and pocketnow) I have come to the conclusion:
I want it.
First of all, this is not iPhone 4->4S. The only thing there was a dual core in stead of single core processor and the camera. No DESIGN changes, it looked the same. No screen changes, it looked the same.
My initial feeling was mixed. First I wasn't amazed by the design. After seeing more and more articles and more and more pictures/videos, I changed my mind. That "metallic blue" colour is very nice, I like the home button design, the curved edges. The only thing I'm not amazed about is the back, but it's ok.
Hardware wise I'm happy. People with the S2, I understand you doubting if it's worth the upgrade from an S2. But some people on the net saying the hardware is total "****" should be locked up. People expect WAY to much. 2 years ago I would have only dreamed about such specs. While my S2 is no slow guy, I am starting so see room for improvements. It's slow some times, not a lot but ok. Also the change from WVGA to 720p res is a great thing, even if it's "pentile". Another small but maybe unknown detail is the S3 uses a "wolfson" soundchip or how it's called, so supercurio already tweeted we can expect amazing sound quality.
Atm I"m enjoying my S2 and somewhere in June/July I might get the S3. Like I said a while ago, standard pattern of most humans:
Initial disappointment, after a while start changing their minds, buy the phone anyway, start loving it hardcore mode. Every year. People usually focus only on specs on paper, but start seeing the small details later. And off course actually holding the phone in your hand, that's when the magic chicks in ^^
Of course it's worth buying the SIII. They upgraded the best feature in the world: pink spot right in the middle of the photos.
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S3 to the S2 is what the iphone 4s is to the iphone 4
Look at the main differences, they are only software oriented... The only upgrade is maybe the camera, the quad core cpu (with same gpu) and the led notification light... The super amoled hd is a pentile screen...
Not digging my pockets this year
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You will buy this phone, just wait till you come out and you hear all the good things about it, you won't be able to resist. You will find things in your pockets
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S3 to the S2 is what the iphone 4s is to the iphone 4
Look at the main differences, they are only software oriented... The only upgrade is maybe the camera, the quad core cpu (with same gpu) and the led notification light... The super amoled hd is a pentile screen...
Not digging my pockets this year
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And what changes did you expected?
The hardware upgrade is nice, the online thing i dont like is the design. its so 2008 :-(
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Features like Smart Stay, SVoice etc are so awesome, worth buying!!!
+Notification LED
I just wanted to see what does Supercurio do with Voodoo!
S3 has a wolfson, thats enough reason for me to switch
no . its not worth-it unlike iphone user who need to wait apple decision to add features . .. we dont hope the s-voice, s-memo and the other software inprovement excluding touchwiz will be ported to our beloved galaxy s2 okay2 maybe touchw's icons just for the sake of refeshment
SGS III forum here.
Do we really need to flood the SGS2 pages with floods of opinions about another device - which won't be released for four weeks - when one can do so on said device's dedicated forum?
No we don't IMO...
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And what changes did you expected?
The hardware upgrade is nice, the online thing i dont like is the design. its so 2008 :-(
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Have you seen good renders/official pictures of it?
http://m.pocketnow.com/android/the-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-was-it-worth-the-wait
It's beautiful imo.
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SGS III forum here.
Do we really need to flood the SGS2 pages with floods of opinions about another device - which won't be released for four weeks - when one can do so on said device's dedicated forum?
No we don't IMO...
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Oh come on it's one thread. No flood.
It's common sense this will be discussed here.
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I just wanted to see what does Supercurio do with Voodoo!
S3 has a wolfson, thats enough reason for me to switch
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Exactly .... and the special thing thing is the chip is better than the one in sgs.
Generally people will never have the mind to update their previous flagship, adding the poor design for sgs3 the upgrade will be slower from sgs2 users.
If you like HD screen, capture more photos, better battery life then you can switch to sgs3 without a doubt.
People haven't read the initial review from anandtech and gsmarena, this sgs3 blows the competitors with wide margin . The only drawback I would say is the back panel design.
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Oh come on it's one thread. No flood.
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That must be why I've found 4 threads here already then.
Don't see that it's "common sense" at all - that's what the dedicated forum for the SGS III is for....
Anyway, see the last post here - when a mod says discussion goes on relevant thread, end of story.
Bet this thread will be locked anyway.
Having gotten the original Galaxy S and SII, I was greatly anticipating the SIII even though I was very impressed with the HTC One X.
After seeing the device, I have to say I'll be getting the One X instead. I waited and waited but was ultimately disappointed.
This new device is pretty ugly. How can the company that made the elegant Galaxy Nexus also make the chintzy, cheap-looking Galaxy SIII? Seriously -- the Galaxy SII actually looks better with its more pronounced edges -- the curved appearance of the SIII reminds me a lot of the Galaxy S -- in other words, the design went backwards. At least the iPhone 4s retained what was a good-looking design.
That's not the only thing that went backwards: the display technology Samsung is using on the SII is superior to the Pentile display of the SIII even if the resolution is lesser. What's more, in real world use, the SIII will probably not be that much better than the One X. Also, correct me if I'm wrong but the front camera also has a slightly smaller sensor, doesn't it (1.9Mpix vs. 2.0Mpix)?
Moreover, whereas other manufacturers are exploring the use of new processes and materials for its builds (Apple is allegedly planning to use new materials and processes on its iPhone and HTC already used a different set on its new One series), Samsung has stuck to ugly, glossy plastic.
What's bizarre is that if you look at Samsung's other offerings, like its televisions, it isn't afraid of producing elegant, spartan designs. There's nothing elegant or spartan about the Galaxy SIII, it's just cheesy.
Also, while I thought Touchwiz 4 was passable enough, the new TouchWiz looks like a disaster waiting to happen. You can already tell there's going to be a ton of crapware on the i9300. Where's the evolution? Why persist with the iPhone knock-off design sensibility when Android has already moved forward? Why insist on a very ugly hardware home button when Sammy itself shipped the first ICS sandwich with virtual buttons?
Rather than going for an ICS-influenced look which was meant to unify the appearance of the OS across devices and manufacturers, Samsung doubled-down on the most-critiqued software feature of its devices. Also, as one can see from the various hands-on videos, they even retained the Gingerbread-green battery icons!
At least HTC had the good sense to tweak SenseUI heavily to give its users a good user experience while incorporating just enough ICS to please the Android purists. Just looking at the TW5, you know it'll be another invasive, ugly experience from Samsung.
The only redeeming quality the SIII seems to have is its SoC, which is why some are saying its an evolutionary rather than revolutionary update.
So, sorry, Sammy. You aren't getting my money this year.
Better stay away from xda,internet for some time
If i say just once that I need new phone, I am kicked out of house
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i'm pretty disappointed with the Galaxy S3 to be honest.
1. looks like a piece of soap.
2. screen is pentile
3. hardware buttons (really samsung?)
4. fat bezel
5. a9 battery sucker instead of a a15 for the sake of marketing
6. crapwiz
it's a galaxy SIIs. I'm gonna wait for the next Nexus. just my $0,02
In my opinion, SG3 not really a idea phone to buy if you already have SG2. Because:
1. Still not need quad core yet.
2. 4.8inch too big for "mobile" phone. Almost size of Samsung Note.
3. Same camera MP.
4. Ugly and non pro design.
The only things that interest me is the NFC technology.
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3. Same camera MP.
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i can't believe that there still people thinking that image quality is measured in megapixel. it's 2012.... we should be over this now. people like you are the reason why the sgs3 has a inefficient quad instead of a a15 dual. CUZ M O O OOOAR IS B E TTARRR!
I found this video, as I was comparing the benefits of S3 over an S2.
I thought, that the 4 cores would have made a difference in opening apps and surfing with the browser.
But there is hardly any difference??
Do you think, that the developers will work towards the 4-core processors or not?
I think it will take another few years, till the quadcore will be used appropriately. Till then, the S3 will be replaced by newer models.
As sad as it is, most probably quadcore development will start as soon as apple decides using quadcores.
What do you think about this video? And what benefits are left to buy the S3 if everything is the same?
Pointless. This video was posted weeks ago.
I have come to a similar conclusion, quad core seems to offer no real benefits (that I can see) over dual core. My HTC one s, is much smoother and quicker than my gs3. We're it not for the fantastic screen I would keep the HTC. I can't see one possible benefits to quad core at this time.
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I found this video, as I was comparing the benefits of S3 over an S2.
I thought, that the 4 cores would have made a difference in opening apps and surfing with the browser.
But there is hardly any difference??
Do you think, that the developers will work towards the 4-core processors or not?
I think it will take another few years, till the quadcore will be used appropriately. Till then, the S3 will be replaced by newer models.
As sad as it is, most probably quadcore development will start as soon as apple decides using quadcores.
What do you think about this video? And what benefits are left to buy the S3 if everything is the same?
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i dont agree with u on that. S2, no doubt is still among the top phones in the world but not after release of S3! S3 has quad core, it opens apps in almost double the time it used to open on my s2 or even Note! as far as the development for the quad core is concerned, samsung is a pretty mean and biased manufacturers when it comes to taking the crown in almost any field! they would not let any smartphone beat their flagship at least until the release of S4! what i found after using my S3 for 4 days is that quad cores of s3 are actually not fully unleashed until now, thats the reason samsung is not giving out new roms with real good performance boosts! samsung is working on providing the best possible roms and updates to the s3! it would not leave its flagship alone! i did exactly everything the guy in the video was doing and i find my s3 much faster than his! and btw, i have not rooted or flashed the phone at all untill now! its just out of the box rom!
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I have come to a similar conclusion, quad core seems to offer no real benefits (that I can see) over dual core. I can't see one possible benefits to quad core at this time.
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Totally agree.
well as android move forward, google will have no choice but to add 4 core support in jelly bean
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Yeah the OP is right Quad-Core is useless lets ditch the Quad, Hex core CPU and lets go back to the good old E5300.
I can't believe people, honestly.
Regardless if the SII is slower or not....being a dual core up against a brand new quad core.....the SII is a bad ass.
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Yeah the OP is right Quad-Core is useless lets ditch the Quad, Hex core CPU and lets go back to the good old E5300.
I can't believe people, honestly.
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No one is saying that. It's just useless for this generation until software starts actually being able to use it in the future.
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No one is saying that. It's just useless for this generation until software starts actually being able to use it in the future.
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Yep this is what I was saying.
I think the 2GB RAM and maybe LTE would have been more effective for this generation, than the quadcore. The Koreans are rumored to have both Perks
dont agree with u on that. S2, no doubt is still among the top phones in the world but not after release of S3! S3 has quad core, it opens apps in almost double the time it used to open on my s2 or even Note! as far as the development for the quad core is concerned, samsung is a pretty mean and biased manufacturers when it comes to taking the crown in almost any field! they would not let any smartphone beat their flagship at least until the release of S4! what i found after using my S3 for 4 days is that quad cores of s3 are actually not fully unleashed until now, thats the reason samsung is not giving out new roms with real good performance boosts! samsung is working on providing the best possible roms and updates to the s3! it would not leave its flagship alone! i did exactly everything the guy in the video was doing and i find my s3 much faster than his! and btw, i have not rooted or flashed the phone at all untill now! its just out of the box rom!
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Oh is your S3 faster than the one in the Video?
SGS2 - 800x480 = 384,000 pixels
SGS3 - 1280x720= 921,600 pixels
what you tits don't realize is that the SGS3, with it's magnificent 720p resolution screen, has to push a whopping 2.4x more pixels than the SGS2 - making the quad-core vital in providing a fast, fluid and buttery smooth experience - which surpasses even the SGS2 (with its ****ty resolution) making it an even more impressive feat in engineering.
It simply blazes past devices with similar screens and resolution and makes them seem laggy (Gnex, Note, One X)
Hence, the SGS3's main feature isn't merely it having a quad-core processor, it's actually utilizing that quad-core processor to provide a the fastest, most seamless and unmatched user experience at such a high resolution.
I like poketnow, but I do think this video and the whole notion of the s3 being as fast as the s2 is wrong in my opinion I got my s3 a few days ago, and I still have and use my s2 clocked at 1.4ghz, and it is defiantly more laggy and slower. Web rendering was so much faster and smoother (although it was just as smooth as GB used to be on the s2 before Samsung screwed up ICS for the s2), and opening the same cpu intensive apps put the s2 to shame. Yes when opening things like the phone, or messaging app there was no difference and I won't expect them to be, as how it opens instantaneously on my s2 anyway, so there is so room for speed improvements. Also, I remember sites saying there wasn't much difference between the s1 and s2 speed wise when the s2 came out, and looking back now the s2 feels sooo much faster than the s1 simply because there are a lot more complicated and cpu intensive apps compared to a year ago. In other words I do think my s3 is much faster than my s2.
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I have come to a similar conclusion, quad core seems to offer no real benefits (that I can see) over dual core. My HTC one s, is much smoother and quicker than my gs3. We're it not for the fantastic screen I would keep the HTC. I can't see one possible benefits to quad core at this time.
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Really? It seems people have very different perceptions. My previous phone the Qualcomm S4 HTC One X stuttered like someone on withdrawal from heroin so I went to try all the HTC One X and One S display models I could to see if it was just my handset. It wasn't and the One S was also a stuttery mess.
Funny how different perceptions can be.
omersak said:
what you tits don't realize is that the SGS3, with it's magnificent 720p resolution screen, has to push a whopping 2.4x more pixels than the SGS2 - making the quad-core vital in providing a fast, fluid and buttery smooth experience - which surpasses even the SGS2 (with its ****ty resolution) making it an even more impressive feat in engineering.
It simply blazes past devices with similar screens and resolution and makes them seem laggy (Gnex, Note, One X)
Hence, the SGS3's main feature isn't merely it having a quad-core processor, it's actually utilizing that quad-core processor to provide a the fastest, most seamless and unmatched user experience at such a high resolution.
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Dude save it.....I mean give me a break. If this is no the most blatant fan boy post I have ever read. The SGS3 is still pushing 720p to a pentile display....compared to SGS2s super amoled plus..... Its a great phone but compared to the OneX its only marginal in most areas. Nobody said the SGSII was better....just how comparable it is. To top it off I have read many posts that say the quad core does get shuttters so save it...that wasn't no BLAZING SPEED they were just showing in the video.....lay off the pipe.
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In all honesty, anything the sg3 can do, the s2 can. Its a jump in performance, but the s2 is already pretty fast. The only reason I'm upgrading will be lte capabilities.
tylerdurdin said:
Dude save it.....I mean give me a break. If this is no the most blatant fan boy post I have ever read. The SGS3 is still pushing 720p to a pentile display....compared to SGS2s super amoled plus..... Its a great phone but compared to the OneX its only marginal in most areas. Nobody said the SGSII was better....just how comparable it is. To top it off I have read many posts that say the quad core does get shuttters so save it...that wasn't no BLAZING SPEED they were just showing in the video.....lay off the pipe.
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It seems as if you're in denial. The SGS2's chipset got a similar resolution pentile screen and that lagged like no tomorrow. the quad core in the GS3 was necessary to make the experience lag free.
And the SGS3 is quite a bit faster and smoother than the One X (Tegra3 - i haven't used the krait one). Try loading up NOVA3 on both, or browsing the web, or anything for that matter.
Note: i'm not discounting the fact that the One X isn't a great phone. It has it's points that best the SGS3 but speed and smoothness is clearly NOT one of them.
I've had both One X devices. AT&T branded and the International version. I also had the GS2 International. The GS3 (Quad Core), hands down, blows them all away as far as performance goes.
Milliseconds starting apps etc doesn't matter, what matters is the Smoothness. The S3 is far more smoother then s2! Someone who tried cm9,is it smoother / faster then stock.?
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It's probably better to post this in the SII section where more people will agree with and not have to argue about it here. The people who are here not to troll are likely going to get an SIII anyway, no matter how good the SII is. Same goes for One X supporters. It's fair to make informed comparison, but don't be an authority over other people choices. Wasn't there already a dedicated thread for comparison:
Official Reviews, Previews and Comparisons as they come thread
Galaxy S3 vs Galaxy S2
Ascertion said:
In all honesty, anything the sg3 can do, the s2 can. Its a jump in performance, but the s2 is already pretty fast. The only reason I'm upgrading will be lte capabilities.
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It can't record video with the same quality lag- free.
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