I have a question about music functionality on Android/the Atrix. I want to know if the stock music player or any music player on the Android Marketplace can manage two seperate media libraries.
Specifically, I would like to be able to have two different sets of music, and depending on the library or player, you would only be able to see one at a time. The reason is that I listen to a lot of JPop and anime type music, but I work at a professional sales job and I don't want my co-workers to know I listen to that kind of music. My co-workers are not nice people(typical alpha-male personalities) and would make fun of me to no end if they found out. Say, I wanted to plug my phone in and play it on the speaker system at work, I don't want anime music to show up, so if my co-workers were browsing through my phone, they wouldn't see it.
Anyways, I would be very grateful if someone could recommend a solution, of any kind, involving multiple media players or multiple libraries. Thanks for any help of advice that you have.
BTW I don't have my Atrix yet, but I thought I would ask anyways.
Honestly, since you're concerned enough about what other people think, you might as well totally compromise and leave the music you're concerned about at home.
To answer, there are a number of ways to do this: one simple way would be to load up a MicroSD card with your "secret" music, or use something like PowerAMP, which has it's own media scanner service, so I *believe* you could put your "secret" stuff in a folder that's not parsed by the regular system media scanner (and set PowerAMP to read that folder specifically).
Good luck.
I knew I would end up getting advice of that nature first lol...but anyways, thanks for the advice regarding the music. If you or anyone else comes up with any other ideas in the meantime before I get my Atrix, feel free to share them.
OK I got my Atrix and I've been trying to get this working...but the music player finds the music I am trying to hide, even in a hidden folden on the SD card. Is there any way to limit what files the Atrix default music player adds to the library? I can't find any library options anywhere.
I would appreciate any help, thanks. Make fun of me if you wish but this is really important to me.
android handles hidden files not like windows. so to make a folder hidden, you can put a period infront of the folder. Then it shouldnt show up in your media playlist. For example ".music" without the quotes. Then to listen to those music you can use a file browser like root explorer or astro (which both allows for viewing hidden folders), then you can listen to them that way.
so in summary, music app will not see it, but file browser will. that's a work around.
Strange I just tried this but it's not working. I did put the dot in front of the music folder ".Music" but it still shows up in the music player. I even tried mounting and unmounting the SD card and restarting the phone but it still shows up. I guess the Music App is just too smart.
Actually I did discover a possible solution that I will play with a bit. I realized you can mount and unmount the SD card at anytime. So possibly I could keep the SD card completely unmounted while at work. And then just re-mount it after I get off work. Seems to work fine for the few minutes I've played with it. So thanks.
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Strange I just tried this but it's not working. I did put the dot in front of the music folder ".Music" but it still shows up in the music player. I even tried mounting and unmounting the SD card and restarting the phone but it still shows up. I guess the Music App is just too smart.
Actually I did discover a possible solution that I will play with a bit. I realized you can mount and unmount the SD card at anytime. So possibly I could keep the SD card completely unmounted while at work. And then just re-mount it after I get off work. Seems to work fine for the few minutes I've played with it. So thanks.
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just curious, why would your co-workers take your phone too look through anyways? you will have it on you all the time, they will not steal it from you and look right? haha.
you should also check out launcher pro, you can hide any app you want from the drawer. so you can just hide your music app during work or hide it all together. then when you want to listen to music, just hit the search button and type in Music and the app will appear. only you will know.
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just curious, why would your co-workers take your phone too look through anyways? you will have it on you all the time, they will not steal it from you and look right? haha.
you should also check out launcher pro, you can hide any app you want from the drawer. so you can just hide your music app during work or hide it all together. then when you want to listen to music, just hit the search button and type in Music and the app will appear. only you will know.
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Yea I agree, even if your phone is on your desk and one of the aholes tries to snag it just set your finger print to unlock it and they can have a ball trying to figure it out. That kinda sucks they are are douches about something as simple as your music, I'd prolly give you crap about it but I'd expect it back from you good luck man!
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Well we have this nice speaker system and I like to play music on it through an AUX cable, so I just leave it sitting next to the speaker system often time.
Plus I just got this phone and love it so I want to show it off. Even though I don't like my co-workers, I will let them try out my phone so they can get jealous haha.
Oh yeah and @client I do give them crap, all the time actually. And that's part of what this is about. I just dont want them to have any fuel to give me crap about. It's basically like a competition that we have going at work, really. Like one of my co-workers is like 25 and his girlfriend is 19 so we always joke about checking her ID when she comes to visit him at work and stuff.
Atrix Display and Comments
I spent several hours yesterday (Sunday) at a AT&T Retail Store with the Motorola Atrix. As you may know the phone display is a smidge under resolution to the IPhone 4- it lacked the "Punch" I thought the Display would or should have- is it because of Android 2.2? The dual core and Nvidia graphics accelerator should have given the Atrix a absolutely stunning display, it was “Just Ok” display, but nowhere near the retina display of Apple. I am resigned or guessing to think that this may be a Android software thing-
The Battery time appears good, I ran the Motorola “Flash Demo Site” about 9 times, ran Kobe Bryant’s “Nike Black Mamba” 5 min Trailer sever times was all over the web, Huge Multi Media Sites, and I didn’t ding the Battery at all, which was very surprising-
There is no question the Phone is very fast, actually at this point, I’ve never held a faster phone in my hand, we downloaded Extreme Labs Speed test, “Blink” it was done, actually initially I thought the download aborted- No such luck, Its fast-
So the Bottom line, The Display worries me. On the other Hand I'm hearing the Display on the Xoom is Gorgeous- but their running Gingerbread 3.0- I remember there was talk that Gingerbread required some very High Tech Hardware in place, Dual Core, Nividia ect- The Atrix is running Android 2.2-
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The Sales rep told me the phone was “LTE Ready”, when I asked what do you mean, he smiled and said all that’s required is a Sim Card Change Out, He said Both the Inspire and the Atrix were that way. After I got home I called AT&T and spoke to a Supervisor in Technical Services, who confirmed that dialog. I am very surprised, as none of the reviews have said that. There has been great debates over 4G, and articles that say the Atrix is but isn’t 4G, and cannot work on LTE-
I have always valued your Forum opinions, and hope that you will take a moment to answer my email. Any comment you can give or overall opinion would be graciously received as always.
ItsaRaid said:
I spent several hours yesterday (Sunday) at a AT&T Retail Store with the Motorola Atrix. As you may know the phone display is a smidge under resolution to the IPhone 4- it lacked the "Punch" I thought the Display would or should have- is it because of Android 2.2? The dual core and Nvidia graphics accelerator should have given the Atrix a absolutely stunning display, it was “Just Ok” display, but nowhere near the retina display of Apple. I am resigned or guessing to think that this may be a Android software thing-
The Battery time appears good, I ran the Motorola “Flash Demo Site” about 9 times, ran Kobe Bryant’s “Nike Black Mamba” 5 min Trailer sever times was all over the web, Huge Multi Media Sites, and I didn’t ding the Battery at all, which was very surprising-
There is no question the Phone is very fast, actually at this point, I’ve never held a faster phone in my hand, we downloaded Extreme Labs Speed test, “Blink” it was done, actually initially I thought the download aborted- No such luck, Its fast-
So the Bottom line, The Display worries me. On the other Hand I'm hearing the Display on the Xoom is Gorgeous- but their running Gingerbread 3.0- I remember there was talk that Gingerbread required some very High Tech Hardware in place, Dual Core, Nividia ect- The Atrix is running Android 2.2-
Oops! I left one thing out-
The Sales rep told me the phone was “LTE Ready”, when I asked what do you mean, he smiled and said all that’s required is a Sim Card Change Out, He said Both the Inspire and the Atrix were that way. After I got home I called AT&T and spoke to a Supervisor in Technical Services, who confirmed that dialog. I am very surprised, as none of the reviews have said that. There has been great debates over 4G, and articles that say the Atrix is but isn’t 4G, and cannot work on LTE-
I have always valued your Forum opinions, and hope that you will take a moment to answer my email. Any comment you can give or overall opinion would be graciously received as always.
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Not that I don't value your opinion....but what the hell does any of what you wrote relate to the issue the OP is having?
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Lol Looks like he may have posted this in my thread instead of a new one.
Also an update- The SD card dismount is working good but now the folder did get hidden. For some reason overnight the phone finally registered it as hidden. I think I'll just unhide it and keep using the mount trick though, seems more reliable.
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My first smart phone was the eris. I hated iphones and and pretty much everything else seemed overpriced. So i decided to step into the world of smartphones. I was persuaded by my research of the phones that were out at the time to go with a droid eris as i didnt find any other phones that were strictly touch screen. This was around November. I was shocked by how insane the possibilitys with this phone. I hadnt rooted as it was not possible that the time. Few months later i choose to look back and see what the news was. I came across this place to see that root had been found and how excited i was to have discovered this place. I looked into rooting and how to install things like the recovery img and what a rom was! The people seemed to be very kind and helpful to bringing this phone out of the dark age that was the restraints on this phone. after about months and months of fooling around i learned to own my phone like a 7 year old owning his father at halo. But issues were brought to light sadly and the eris community seemed to slow down with the excitement as is expected of an EOL phone. my sadness slowly over came me but i never left this place hoping to see what the left over momentum would bring out. New roms and small tweaks seemed slow at first then a sudden rise started. Unsure of what it caused brought a rush of new content to this site. The devs seemed almost overjoyed with the small titan that is the Eris. The wave slowly picked up and almost topped off till one thing came to view.
FROYO
This is the start of a beast of a update to the eris. It has givin this phone a burst of reason to buy and even use the phone once more. I hope i can speak for the entire eris community. THANK YOU!! thank you for making this phone the one toy/tool worth showing off to everyone i meet. You devs keep it up and if any help is needed from the community dont hesitate to ask. I will strive to do all i can to make this phone a power house in the android community!!
I echo your sentiments almost exactly! Except I didn't get my phone till a couple of months ago, and I don't play Halo because I don't want to get embarrassed by those same 7 year olds online and then talked smack to lol. Other than that, I am hoping this Froyo concept gets some more members interested in working with this phone a bit more before it passes away. I believe that they have stopped selling it, but geez, there are quite a few of us that can't afford to spend $100s on the latest and greatest phone without a new contract, so let's make the most of it while we can!
dont be so fast to give it an insane rating...Although we might have:
Overclock (to 806mhz)
Apps2SD (save internal memory by installing apps to SD card)
Live Wallpapers
Root
Navi
and now Froyo
We still can't watch video files on our phones..
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We still can't watch video files on our phones..
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*cough*rockplayerbase*Cough*
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*cough*rockplayerbase*Cough*
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Thisssssssssssssss
What kind of videos are we talking about here? Flash or downloaded formats like AVI and MP4? I use Meridian and haven't had any issues with downloaded movies, although I've really only tried a couple since I don't care to use my phone to watch anything longer than a youtube video or something along those lines.
Rockplayer basically plays everything, avi and mkv are supported I believe. Of course mp4's are.
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Rockplayer basically plays everything, avi and mkv are supported I believe. Of course mp4's are.
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hm...I'm running damageRom 4.6 r2.....I used the rock player apk from the xda home page from last night...and I got nothin man..it doesnt play a 350mb avi file..
I'm running Sense-able 3.1, and I can install Rockplayer, but when I try to open a video file the screen goes blank for 1-2 seconds, and then goes back to the directory listing. I've never been able to get it to play a video.
To counter this, I've just been encoding my videos using mp4 h.264, and playing them using the gallery. It's been working fantastically so far.
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I'm running Sense-able 3.1, and I can install Rockplayer, but when I try to open a video file the screen goes blank for 1-2 seconds, and then goes back to the directory listing. I've never been able to get it to play a video.
To counter this, I've just been encoding my videos using mp4 h.264, and playing them using the gallery. It's been working fantastically so far.
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Hmmm...when you "encode" your own files, I'm guessing youre converting any file onto either h264 or mp4 without making any changes to the resst of the file...like size, bitrate, etc....
I was told when I got my EVO 3D that when I logged into the market place with my Google email every app I previously had on my EVO would download to my new EVO and it didn't happen and I didn't care if it did or not cause I have app brain market and used that to get most of the apps back that I wanted. And some apps on my EVO I didn't want on the 3D.
Well Now I have the new Prime just got it today and I wanted to use my same Gmail as I do on my phone and now every app is downloading and I don't want them all on my tablet. I reset the tablet and then when I put in my gmail and the tablet came up every app that is on my EVO 3D is downloading. I have several apps I don't even want on this tablet. Isn't there a way to make them not all download? Is it a marketplace setting? I can't seem to find it and if I have to I guess I'll just have to go and uninstall all the ones I don't want but there is a bunch. I would rather just install a couple apps at a time that I know I want.
Also lots of people have Ice Cream mine says no updates available. I read is was coming out on the 12th so maybe I will get it tomorrow. I didn't want to set things up till I got updates but mine didn't update anything. I went under firmware update and nothing. Thanks!
I do not know much about the Market ... the only thing I know of is that you could turn off Allow Automatic Updates for each app. That would probably stop it. Lots of work, though.
As far as I know, every U.S. Prime received their update a few days ago...
Since you just got your Prime, perhaps you already have ICS? What is your Android version number under Settings | About Tablet | Android version? If it begins with 4, you are set. Otherwise, you checked Settings | About Tablet | System Firmware Update and clicked the Check Update button, right?
No I'm version 3. something already checked last night. And Asus was actually open late and he said there was nothing I could do. He said I would probably get Ice Cream in a day or two but he also said that once you put in your Google account all apps will download automatically from the market he said there is no way to stop it. He said I'll just have to uninstall the ones I don't want which I did most of them now so I guess I'll be ok. I have to get amazon app store next and then I'll have more to install but those I can pick and choose which ones I want out of all my free apps of the day. I checked the Market to about un checking auto updates but I wanted it for all apps but I didn't see it. So everyone who has an Android phone and uses there same Gmail gets all there apps on the tablet i'm guessing? Now I am confused a little on what apps came with the phone and what are mine that I had on my phone. LOL! Oh well It wasn't so bad deleting the ones I didn't want. There wasn't as many as I thought. I just have lots of games and I am not sure how some will look on here. Nice Tablet though I love it. Thanks!
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I do not know much about the Market ... the only thing I know of is that you could turn off Allow Automatic Updates for each app. That would probably stop it. Lots of work, though.
As far as I know, every U.S. Prime received their update a few days ago...
Since you just got your Prime, perhaps you already have ICS? What is your Android version number under Settings | About Tablet | Android version? If it begins with 4, you are set. Otherwise, you checked Settings | About Tablet | System Firmware Update and clicked the Check Update button, right?
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There is a way.
Actually, there is a way to stop the apps from downloading, but be careful with it. I inadvertently found it when my 170 apps were downloading, and I wanted to interupt them to get an update (pre-ICS) If you go into Market while they are downloading, at the top left you will see "STOP x121" (or whatever number is left to DL. Hit that and they stop. Forever. I had to go back and manualy grab over 100 apps after doing so. Ugh. You think deleing was bad, LOL!
Anyway, a good thing to know if you have multiple devices. Whats weird is, they would not show anymore on the Prim as apps that I have, just on phone. If you go to the web site for Market, you can see whats what, but STILL cannot delete old devices. They have at least 15 divices I no longer own, and you can hide, but not delete... ONE DEVICE. Is Google that retarded that they don't know people buy lots of devices these days?
By the way, it looks like they took down the update to ICS for a while, a thread showed people not getting it, with one exception in New York. Maybe they fixed the rebooting issue and screen issues, but then I would expect to see a new update for mine. Just hang in, and keep manually checking, but first make SURE you see a serial number in Device Status. If not you are SOL, and will need Asus or the store to replace your Prime. There are WAY too many of those out there. Asus did a plain ****ty job rolling these out, as everyone agrees.
I know I went to the Marketplace website I went there to see about disabling everything from downloading. I saw my EVO my EVO 3D my Archos and now this and saw where I couldn't delete. But anyway worked out OK for me to just delete what I didn't want on my tablet. I am guessing it downloaded every app. I found the Amazon app store APK and emailed it to my gmail and now I got a few more apps from there that I wanted. I didn't want all those neither but I got to choose those.
I was up so late messing with this last night and I got up early to mess with it again. I am familiar with Android and HTC Phones but not this tablet. I don't even know how to change my background yet or add an app or widget to screen I long pressed and something else came up. I'll figure it all out though. Oh and I have an 8 gig card that came with my phone I put a 16 in my phone but I wasn't gonna put it in since I was gonna order this 32 gig online for like 28 bucks. I have an app app2SD and it's showing me apps that can be moved sd card but I don't have a card in there yet but everyone's saying you can't move apps. I am wondering if it will let me with this app once I put a card in?
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Actually, there is a way to stop the apps from downloading, but be careful with it. I inadvertently found it when my 170 apps were downloading, and I wanted to interupt them to get an update (pre-ICS) If you go into Market while they are downloading, at the top left you will see "STOP x121" (or whatever number is left to DL. Hit that and they stop. Forever. I had to go back and manualy grab over 100 apps after doing so. Ugh. You think deleing was bad, LOL!
Anyway, a good thing to know if you have multiple devices. Whats weird is, they would not show anymore on the Prim as apps that I have, just on phone. If you go to the web site for Market, you can see whats what, but STILL cannot delete old devices. They have at least 15 divices I no longer own, and you can hide, but not delete... ONE DEVICE. Is Google that retarded that they don't know people buy lots of devices these days?
By the way, it looks like they took down the update to ICS for a while, a thread showed people not getting it, with one exception in New York. Maybe they fixed the rebooting issue and screen issues, but then I would expect to see a new update for mine. Just hang in, and keep manually checking, but first make SURE you see a serial number in Device Status. If not you are SOL, and will need Asus or the store to replace your Prime. There are WAY too many of those out there. Asus did a plain ****ty job rolling these out, as everyone agrees.
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Rose4uKY said:
I know I went to the Marketplace website I went there to see about disabling everything from downloading. I saw my EVO my EVO 3D my Archos and now this and saw where I couldn't delete. But anyway worked out OK for me to just delete what I didn't want on my tablet. I am guessing it downloaded every app. I found the Amazon app store APK and emailed it to my gmail and now I got a few more apps from there that I wanted. I didn't want all those neither but I got to choose those.
I was up so late messing with this last night and I got up early to mess with it again. I am familiar with Android and HTC Phones but not this tablet. I don't even know how to change my background yet or add an app or widget to screen I long pressed and something else came up. I'll figure it all out though. Oh and I have an 8 gig card that came with my phone I put a 16 in my phone but I wasn't gonna put it in since I was gonna order this 32 gig online for like 28 bucks. I have an app app2SD and it's showing me apps that can be moved sd card but I don't have a card in there yet but everyone's saying you can't move apps. I am wondering if it will let me with this app once I put a card in?
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Sounds like me my first few days on the Original Transformer. I was like.. Huh? Cause quite a few things are different from the phone version. I remember specifically the add Widget/app screens, and wasn't sure what I was looking at either, LOL. Even more after ICS udate, but for that you can just go to android.com and get a full feature list, and I believe Engadget has a nice review and list of fun stuff to do. It's more evolutionary than revolutionary, and MOST of what makes it so good is not apparent from the top level interface. It's only when you discover things like swipe to clear recent/running apps and swipe to clear notifications that you start to really admire it.
Hey, anyone know if Asus removed "Swipe to close browser tabs" like they removed the unlock with your Face/camera thing? I haven't been able to do it, but then again, no where do they show you what, specifically to swipe! I have swiped the tab, the title bar, the window, and everything else on screen, to no avail. I must be a bad swiper!
The screen you see after long press is how you add apps, widgets and shortcuts to any of the 5 Desktops (Home Screens, whatever) Yo can hold, then drag to screens or tap and they auto move to whichever screen you came from into the tool.
When you get upgraded to ICS, you can add stuff to Home Screens by just going to Apps, and hold/drag apps and theres a tab for Widgets as well. Heck, take your time. The "discovery" part of all this is the most fun I have, and once you know it all, THATS when it gets boring, so have fun.
BTW, did you check if your serial number shows in "settings, About Tablet, Status?" You need to check that ASAP as it determines if your will get ANY updates, and the only resolution I have heard of is exchenge of hardware. Let us know if you are okay in that regard.
Also if you are on the fence about getting the keyboard, get off the fence and get on the web and order it. It's not 100% perfect, but it is truly an amazing piece, as it was with the OG Transformer, and if anything types BETTER, in spite of it's thinness. The additional battery life ALONE is worth it, but with the shortcut keys, trackpad, ports, and how it becomes one wth the tablet, I can't understand ANYONE who DOESN'T get it.
A guy at work let me attach it to my tablet with the OG, and where I had been "thinking about it" before, I ORDERED it, like 10 minutes later, LOL!
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Also if you are on the fence about getting the keyboard, get off the fence and get on the web and order it. It's not 100% perfect, but it is truly an amazing piece, as it was with the OG Transformer, and if anything types BETTER, in spite of it's thinness. The additional battery life ALONE is worth it, but with the shortcut keys, trackpad, ports, and how it becomes one wth the tablet, I can't understand ANYONE who DOESN'T get it.
A guy at work let me attach it to my tablet with the OG, and where I had been "thinking about it" before, I ORDERED it, like 10 minutes later, LOL!
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+1 -- the dock/keyboard is amazing IMO. Without the dock, the Prime is just a very good tablet (with a few issues, of course), but, with the keyboard, it's a whole nother beast. I do wonder how users with big, wide fingers do on the keyboard, however ... luckily, my fingers are thin.
What do you mean by swiping to close things? I don't even know how to get to your recent apps. I know about swyping with keyboards. But your saying swipe to close browser tabs and swipe to clear recent apps I don't even know how to get to recent apps. I think it's next to the home button on the right but I have to hit hard to make it close where I see the x you can't just tap it I have to press down on it. But I am guessing that's my most recent apps there and I think it's hard to push the X.
And yes I went under about tablet and status and I do see a serial number in the box. Oh and now it says I have an update check notifications. Is it not like your phone where you can swipe down the notifications window? Now I can't find where to go to Notifications. But yeah I think I will get the dock here soon when I have money. I am always near a plug and don't really need the extra battery but the full USB is kind of nice cause I have a flash drive I put movies on. But for now I'll wait. I did order a case and now I want a clear screen protector and a clear back cover protector and I don't know who to buy from. But Ok thanks for helping me I have to find my notifications window now. LOL!
Edit: I found it you click on the right bottom corner mine was showing me all my downloads and as I started xing them out I saw the firmware update but my battery is on 14% and says battery is getting low. I read the 1st few times I need to fully depleted and fully charge it is that correct? So I need to wait and let it go from 14 to powering off? And i have one more question this my Cloud it says I need a desktop app to access my desktop remotley from tablet is that from anywhere? Like at work I can access a movie or song on my PC. I have Audio Galaxy now that does that but it's only music. I want to take a recorded Tivo show and be able to download it to PC and watch it from tablet cause there big files cause of being in HD. Thanks! (Now it let me swipe app to close after ICS update)
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PHP:
It's more evolutionary than revolutionary, and MOST of what makes it so good is not apparent from the top level interface. It's only when you discover things like swipe to clear recent/running apps and swipe to clear notifications that you start to really admire it.
Hey, anyone know if Asus removed "Swipe to close browser tabs" like they removed the unlock with your Face/camera thing? I haven't been able to do it, but then again, no where do they show you what, specifically to swipe! I have swiped the tab, the title bar, the window, and everything else on screen, to no avail. I must be a bad swiper!
BTW, did you check if your serial number shows in "settings, About Tablet, Status?" You need to check that ASAP as it determines if your will get ANY updates, and the only resolution I have heard of is exchenge of hardware. Let us know if you are okay in that regard.
Also if you are on the fence about getting the keyboard, get off the fence and get on the web and order it. It's not 100% perfect, but it is truly an amazing piece, as it was with the OG Transformer, and if anything types BETTER, in spite of it's thinness. The additional battery life ALONE is worth it, but with the shortcut keys, trackpad, ports, and how it becomes one wth the tablet, I can't understand ANYONE who DOESN'T get it.
A guy at work let me attach it to my tablet with the OG, and where I had been "thinking about it" before, I ORDERED it, like 10 minutes later, LOL!
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Well, it's lunch time so I thought I would take a minute to update everyone on my thread "I F'ed Up!' thread in Q&A. The Photon is back to purely stock, no root, no unlock, notta. I got most of my app's back (I will explain that later!).
Several months ago, I rooted and unlocked the Photon. Over that time, I have had several issues, off and on, that required reboots, battery removal, freezing, ect. that required me to come here for advice and help. After watching several of QBKINGS videos, I decided to go with CW7 and see what all the hype was about.
Things went terribley wrong!!!! (Thanks to all that helped me fix it, you will hear from me soon!) After 1.5 days without a phone, and knowing every which way exactly HOW to fix it, I was sitting down last night and give this one more go. Looking around, I noticed (as I did the first time?), some of the links don't work, some of the videos I had no clue WHAT page I was actually looking at, just said scroll down (Nice videos, I just did not get it?), some were re-directed to other sites. I work in IT, been doing it since 1983. I'm all for Development and embrace progress. Then it hit me? "Why do you want to root, unlock, flash anyway?" Really?
I started planning on this phone 2 months before it came out. It was, and still is, the best "Business" phone on the market just like it is. I use my phone for too much sh*t as it is (too long to list) and 30 minutes without it, expecially job wise, is a riks I cannot take again. So I choose to leave it stock and get back to the basics (Planning on getting a Samsung Galaxy Note anyway)
As I was putting all my app's back, a few things I noticed that may be of help to some of you. #1 and the biggest of all, some of the apps were no longer support on my phone, which likely caused most of my issues anyway. Putting my Apps back, 85% of that sh*t I used ONCE and forgot I had it. I got it because someone else thought it was cool for THEIR needs.
#2. (and I know I will hear an earfull on this), The phone is perfect just the way it is, functionally wise? You want your phone to look different, get another wallpaper! You want unlocked bootloader, Motorola never promised us one! Everyone wants ICS, They never promised you that either, we purchased it that way. We complain about the camera, 8MP is, more or less, Studio quality unless your a Pro and want to blow it up! If so, get a Digital SLR (hell, I was happy with my 3MP HTC Fuze!)I love the 2 threads where Sprint cancelled their contract over Data, then they admitted downloading Torrants. READ THE CONTRACT!!! 4G? I have used it twice in the 1.5 years its been out, 3G loads my web pages OK, every now and then YouTube sputters, so what, so does my laptop!
Personally, Photon is running better than it has in months! So, I'm going to leave it how it is, and better understand and work the functions it already has! He**, even my BT's are working better with Pandora not dropping and me able to answer calls. The only other money I'm spending (and I really don't need it!) is the SanDisk Mobile Ultra 64Gb Micro SDHC I!
I will still be here with jokes and to get knowledge, but not touching "Neo" until a month after Note comes out, then I will pack him up for good!
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Well, it's lunch time so I thought I would take a minute to update everyone on my thread "I F'ed Up!' thread in Q&A. The Photon is back to purely stock, no root, no unlock, notta. I got most of my app's back (I will explain that later!).
Several months ago, I rooted and unlocked the Photon. Over that time, I have had several issues, off and on, that required reboots, battery removal, freezing, ect. that required me to come here for advice and help. After watching several of QBKINGS videos, I decided to go with CW7 and see what all the hype was about.
Things went terribley wrong!!!! (Thanks to all that helped me fix it, you will hear from me soon!) After 1.5 days without a phone, and knowing every which way exactly HOW to fix it, I was sitting down last night and give this one more go. Looking around, I noticed (as I did the first time?), some of the links don't work, some of the videos I had no clue WHAT page I was actually looking at, just said scroll down (Nice videos, I just did not get it?), some were re-directed to other sites. I work in IT, been doing it since 1983. I'm all for Development and embrace progress. Then it hit me? "Why do you want to root, unlock, flash anyway?" Really?
I started planning on this phone 2 months before it came out. It was, and still is, the best "Business" phone on the market just like it is. I use my phone for too much sh*t as it is (too long to list) and 30 minutes without it, expecially job wise, is a riks I cannot take again. So I choose to leave it stock and get back to the basics (Planning on getting a Samsung Galaxy Note anyway)
As I was putting all my app's back, a few things I noticed that may be of help to some of you. #1 and the biggest of all, some of the apps were no longer support on my phone, which likely caused most of my issues anyway. Putting my Apps back, 85% of that sh*t I used ONCE and forgot I had it. I got it because someone else thought it was cool for THEIR needs.
#2. (and I know I will hear an earfull on this), The phone is perfect just the way it is, functionally wise? You want your phone to look different, get another wallpaper! You want unlocked bootloader, Motorola never promised us one! Everyone wants ICS, They never promised you that either, we purchased it that way. We complain about the camera, 8MP is, more or less, Studio quality unless your a Pro and want to blow it up! If so, get a Digital SLR (hell, I was happy with my 3MP HTC Fuze!)I love the 2 threads where Sprint cancelled their contract over Data, then they admitted downloading Torrants. READ THE CONTRACT!!! 4G? I have used it twice in the 1.5 years its been out, 3G loads my web pages OK, every now and then YouTube sputters, so what, so does my laptop!
Personally, Photon is running better than it has in months! So, I'm going to leave it how it is, and better understand and work the functions it already has! He**, even my BT's are working better with Pandora not dropping and me able to answer calls. The only other money I'm spending (and I really don't need it!) is the SanDisk Mobile Ultra 64Gb Micro SDHC I!
I will still be here with jokes and to get knowledge, but not touching "Neo" until a month after Note comes out, then I will pack him up for good!
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Congrats?
My phone works great with 7.2 put it on the day i got it the next day i was skeptical and went back to stock was there for 2/3 of the day and went back to rocco then 7.2 after last update really havent had any problems except for zumocast for some reason.
grdead25 said:
My phone works great with 7.2 put it on the day i got it the next day i was skeptical and went back to stock was there for 2/3 of the day and went back to rocco then 7.2 after last update really havent had any problems except for zumocast for some reason.
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Funny you mention ZumoCast, FIRST thing I went for when I got back. It was offline, went on computer, logged off/on, back to Photon, Online! All my music, movies, documents...........Nice! The only thing bad about ZumoCast, at this time, it only supports music playlist in iTunes (odd to me?) BUT...........Google Music, with its 20,000 limit, does support Playlist! Checked this AM and I had moved 12,000 of the 14,500 I requested. I have well over 130Gb of music and did not want to press my limit, so I picked my fav's and will shuffel them as time goes!.
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The only other money I'm spending (and I really don't need it!) is the SanDisk Mobile Ultra 64Gb Micro SDHC I!
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Don't know what your buying SD card for, assuming a cell phone.. But the Photon(and most others i think) wont support anything over a 32gig. Just a FYI. Glad you got your phone up and running again!
I came from the Evo and the Photon is by far a superior phone. My Photon is rooted, themed, and backed up using bootstrap. I've removed some of the Motorola junk and I experience no force closes or random reboots. I also don't have alot of useless apps running in the background either.
What you do with, and to your phone is directly related to how it works.
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Don't know what your buying SD card for, assuming a cell phone.. But the Photon(and most others i think) wont support anything over a 32gig. Just a FYI. Glad you got your phone up and running again!
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I had my doubts also but link has pictures. You have to format to slower FAT32 (Or NTFS) which is 7Mb compared to exFAT claimed 30.........Check out second link, post #12!
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Mobil...UTF8&coliid=ILKNEJIM6E46D&colid=3EHUWCW36Z6IQ
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1473010&highlight=64gb&page=2
dsims7_2000 said:
I had my doubts also but link has pictures. You have to format to slower FAT32 (Or NTFS) which is 7Mb compared to exFAT claimed 30.........Check out second link, post #12!
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Mobil...UTF8&coliid=ILKNEJIM6E46D&colid=3EHUWCW36Z6IQ
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1473010&highlight=64gb&page=2
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Well i stand corrected, learn new things everyday lol cool find!
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Well i stand corrected, learn new things everyday lol cool find!
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You? Do you know how much reading I did only to come back here to get shot down? (Several times at that?)Trust me, I got a lesson!
I bought the 920 on weds..just returned today. The first one the shop had was DoA but the guy gave me another meant for another customer.The phone is top notch quality albeit on the heavier side. Camera placement in the center is not ideal and the phone could slip out of your hands..but its built like a tank. Screen is excellent and call quality is clear . Despite the weight it feels really good...better than the iphone 5 which i also have and night and day against any samsung phone (i had note 2 as well). Now the bad news.
Windows 8 mobile sucks!!! It took me an hour to setup my windows live or is it hotmail account. When I first setup it thought I was a child and gave me the round around telling me to check with family controls etc. Also I needed to put my credit card details etc just to access the app store. This process was also confusing since it redirected to the awful internet explorer mobile on the phone where the fonts were so small I couldnt see damn thing. Resizing the web page was cumbersome at best. I tried a few times...and i was so frustrated i felt like throwing the phone against the wall. In the end I did a hard reset and after more mucking around and searching on forums I got it working. But it was like pulling teeth.
Once I got my account setup..you cant change it unless you do a hard reset. So you are basically locked to that account. So if you have one older MS live account and a newer one , you wont be able to switch. This is the most retarded thing out. On android and iOs you can have many accounts as you want. I have a US, UK account which I like to use.
Anyway the first thing I did was go to the app store to download essentials such as Whatsapp , skype etc since nowadays we dont really talk anymore on the phone but message.Skype was ok and it has a special interface coz MS owns it. Whatsapp was a disaster, First time it took forever to load my contacts then say i had no contacts. 2nd time i got it to work but no video uploads. the interface is not as easy as on ios or droid. This is by no means MS fault but they should have checked to see if it works on newer phones. But I guess theres the rub. MS win 8 mobile has such a low user base, developers treat updates with the lowest priority. The app store has hotch potch skeleton app selection. You wont find spotify there but Nokia Music fills the gap albeit a poor substitute. I use my phone as music player first and foremost so music lovers will be disappointed. The MS sync tool with itunes is very bad. Playlists and songs werent copied and album art missing.
The microsoft email client is not as good as ios . You can change fonts and html messaged dont look as clean. I dont take many pics so didnt really try out the camera. But even when i turned flash off the flash was still on for some reason. The lens placement in the center of the phone meant that you would take shots of your fingers instead. Since the phone is heavy it was hard to just hold the bottom half to take pics. They should put the lens on the top left/right.
Surfing was an ok experience..windows wouldnt auto resize so most of the time you would get really small fonts.
Movies were good as display is excellent.. For some reason it also just shutdown completely last night (with 70% battery) and it took a soft reset to get it going again. The live tiles system is different and people who are tired of ios or droid may find this unique but the novelty factor wears off since not all tiles are live. The UI is smooth and there was no lag. Also little things like no batt percentage and some youtube videos wouldnt play (vevo) as it recognized win8 as mobile device. This works on ios and droid.
Bottom line...it wasnt a keeper since there are so many bugs to iron out.
Pros
beautiful high quality constructed phone. better than iphone5, htc/samsung note2 s3 etc
good yellow color
good UI..smooth
Cons
Win 8 mobile- THE BIGGEST reason why i returned it.
Camera placement
Apps (im not a heavy app user but the basic ones dont even work properly)
Slightly heavy to hold
It may be good for ppl who take a lot of photos since the camera is supposed to be the best on any phone..apart from that..would advise you to stay away until the win8 bugs are sorted.
PS i think Nokia/MS is desperate so they restricted supply to make it look as if the phone is hot and to get the buzz going. I really wanted to like it but couldnt get past the crap win 8 mobile. If the phone had droid or ios then it would be.. Also I think MS is padding the user reviews to make people buy it...
I set up my mail and main account in less than 5 minutes on my 920. It synced perfectly and pulled down all my contacts, calendar, and photo.
Music syncing wasn't quite as smooth, but I got it working. I do agree about having only one main account and not being able to change it seems stupid.
As for apps, they are coming, but I have noticed some developers putting out subpar WP8 apps while their iOS and Android are fine. I blame the developers for that crap. It's inexcusable.
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Hmm that's funny...
I have an adriod tablet... gmail account and credit card needed for the marketplace... hmm Sounds like an iPhone where an Apple id is required to use the iCrap. Same issue there. Now, I do have one customer that has a Blackberr..... uh nope just switched to a 920. Just saying, your first point has me wondering where else it is any different. The comparison to iOS, eh... one thing I don't have an issue wit on the phone is text size and reading all that, but you do realize you can change that in the settings!!!! This was a change over WP7. Yes there are some subpar apps, but that's what sets WP apart so much of the phone will do what you need 10 apps to do on iOS and Andriod. I can do most of what you do faster on any other platform. However, this is all a preference argument and I personally don't have an app hard on. I had to help a customer settle in coming from her iPhone, but we set up her outlook to use her Micosoft accout for her contacts and calander. She is all setup like if she had excange server at home without changing her other email address. There is a learning curve with any switch... you made one when you bought your first iPhone. You are not buying a new iPhone, it is a new platform.
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Windows 8 mobile sucks!!! It took me an hour to setup my windows live or is it hotmail account. When I first setup it thought I was a child and gave me the round around telling me to check with family controls etc. Also I needed to put my credit card details etc just to access the app store. This process was also confusing since it redirected to the awful internet explorer mobile on the phone where the fonts were so small I couldnt see damn thing. Resizing the web page was cumbersome at best. I tried a few times...and i was so frustrated i felt like throwing the phone against the wall. In the end I did a hard reset and after more mucking around and searching on forums I got it working. But it was like pulling teeth.
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I'm sorry you had such a hard time setting an account. In my case, it look me less than 2 mins. It would have been much easier for you to create an account on your computer and then just sign-in with your phone. Wish WP8 provided a "hint" like this to those who are completely new to this ecosystem.
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I'm sorry you had such a hard time setting an account. In my case, it look me less than 2 mins. It would have been much easier for you to create an account on your computer and then just sign-in with your phone. Wish WP8 provided a "hint" like this to those who are completely new to this ecosystem.
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Completely agree.. iCrap forces you to do it that way... the device does not even power on without initially hooking it up and setting it up with iTunes on a computer. I think Micrsoft could recomend it on that first setup screen. If you already have an MS account you don't need to go to the computer at all.... so at least with WP8 you can skip that step and have everything setup before you get home. Just when you thought that would be a feature!
OP, I feel your pain. I like my Nokia 920, but am starting to get cold feet because of the apps. One example, I drive a Toyota it uses ENTUNE, there is no app and possibly will never be fully compatible. ALso things like HBO GO and such. I dont use them much on a phone anyway, but I still miss it. And as my cable company adds Video Apps, they take forever to get to Android, how long until they even acknowledge WP8?? My Son is a college athlete, whats the odds his schools app will have a WP8 version? Again, I do like the phone, if I didnt also use a 7" Galaxy Tab, I probably would have returned it. However, the new Galaxy Note 2 is tempting me to switch phones again...
While the setup on mine was easy, I'll be returning it today for one big reason...the camera. Granted, I knew going in that they camera has problems in daylight shots, but I figured I'd give it a try in the real world and see how my results turned out. Honestly, even worse than I expected. I also have the SIII and this thing can't hold a candle to it's camera. Maybe Nokia fixes it with a software update, but what if they don't? I'd rather return it and wait and see rather than keep it, go beyond my return window, and be stuck with such a crappy camera that never gets fixed.
He's a comparison shot I did this morning. The 920 picture looks like it's been run through some sort of cartoon editing software. Look at the tree on the right with the dead leaves still on it compared to the shot from the SIII. Insanity.
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[tIMG]http://i.imgur.com/peJcI.jpg[/ItMG]
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[tIMG]http://i.imgur.com/Q4gUU.jpg[/tIMG]
The colors are alright, but there's absolutely NO clarity. Just awful. So, for now, while I love the phone in every other regard, I'll be returning it and waiting to see if the camera gets fixed.
set up hotmail, gmail, and facebook in seconds, downloaded my contacts from google having migrated from bustedrobot, besides the lack of apps (as its has been repeated their coming) wipes the floor with bustedrobot and i-crap and anything from RIM. easily the best phone ive owned in years
KentuckyHouse said:
While the setup on mine was easy, I'll be returning it today for one big reason...the camera. Granted, I knew going in that they camera has problems in daylight shots, but I figured I'd give it a try in the real world and see how my results turned out. Honestly, even worse than I expected. I also have the SIII and this thing can't hold a candle to it's camera. Maybe Nokia fixes it with a software update, but what if they don't? I'd rather return it and wait and see rather than keep it, go beyond my return window, and be stuck with such a crappy camera that never gets fixed.
He's a comparison shot I did this morning. The 920 picture looks like it's been run through some sort of cartoon editing software. Look at the tree on the right with the dead leaves still on it compared to the shot from the SIII. Insanity.
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[tIMG]http://i.imgur.com/peJcI.jpg[/ItMG]
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[tIMG]http://i.imgur.com/Q4gUU.jpg[/tIMG]
The colors are alright, but there's absolutely NO clarity. Just awful. So, for now, while I love the phone in every other regard, I'll be returning it and waiting to see if the camera gets fixed.
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Yeah, I have seen a couple of those shots show up, but the majority of shots put the SIII to shame. Go indors and take some shots without the flash (turn it off) And yes the Lumia 900 had some simular issues and yep that got an update right away. The cam went from lackluster to pretty damn good. The pictures consistantly came out better than my transforer prime tablet which had a decent camera.
dgmhunt said:
set up hotmail, gmail, and facebook in seconds, downloaded my contacts from google having migrated from bustedrobot, besides the lack of apps (as its has been repeated their coming) wipes the floor with bustedrobot and i-crap and anything from RIM. easily the best phone ive owned in years
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Hmm, I set mine up in the store while waiting for the receipt to be printed. But I did already have a .live account. I didn't have to input a credit card because if I buy anything I just add it to my ATT bill. Very unlike my iPad where Apple insists I have a CC on file.
As for locking you into one specific account, well, that's no different from Apple. I can't change my Apple ID either.
And apps? Well, I find that the OS does just about anything I need without specific apps. Whereas I find IOS not much more than a glorified 'app launcher'.
Don't get me wrong. I love my iPad. But I expect something more and different from my phone. I expect my phone to simplify my life and frankly I find this OS does that. I was a 'flashacholic' when I had previous windows phones so I really considered a new Android phone. But frankly WP8 is a dream to use.
OP, sorry you had such a hard time. I had the same hard time the first times tried to set up my first iPad. This comes from being familiar with an OS. Other OSs feel 'wrong'. The 920 isn't for everyone, nor is WinPhone 8, nor is IOS or even Android.
Ain't choice great!
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Yeah, I have seen a couple of those shots show up, but the majority of shots put the SIII to shame. Go indors and take some shots without the flash (turn it off) And yes the Lumia 900 had some simular issues and yep that got an update right away. The cam went from lackluster to pretty damn good. The pictures consistantly came out better than my transforer prime tablet which had a decent camera.
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That's the thing... I don't shoot indoor shots often. The camera is something I use in my job and those are outdoor shots. Great phone, but the camera software needs some work.
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Agreed, and far, FAR beyond iPhone, which I ran with for over 2 years.
As for setting up the Microsoft account, I don't see how anyone could have a problem with it. More importantly, if you know you have to set one up...do it on your PC, not your phone. That's just common sense, or so I'd guess.
Windows Phone 8 is, hands down, the best mobile OS I've ever used, and I've used them all.
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set up hotmail, gmail, and facebook in seconds, downloaded my contacts from google having migrated from bustedrobot, besides the lack of apps (as its has been repeated their coming) wipes the floor with bustedrobot and i-crap and anything from RIM. easily the best phone ive owned in years
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That's the thing... I don't shoot indoor shots often. The camera is something I use in my job and those are outdoor shots. Great phone, but the camera software needs some work.
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If that is the case, the Lumia has the most potential. The limitations are on the way the phone is processing the pictures (software) not a limitation on hardware. Hardware you can't change, software you can. Every phone today gets tweeked with after it's initial release. The 920 will be no different. The stabilization works, the low light performance works... Give them a chance to update and if it still doesn't perform... something better will be out there or coming out.
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If that is the case, the Lumia has the most potential. The limitations are on the way the phone is processing the pictures (software) not a limitation on hardware. Hardware you can't change, software you can. Every phone today gets tweeked with after it's initial release. The 920 will be no different. The stabilization works, the low light performance works... Give them a chance to update and if it still doesn't perform... something better will be out there or coming out.
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I absolutely agree the Lumia has tons of potential. And I'm sure they'll put out an update to the software to fix the camera. That's why I returned mine to wait until they do. I can promise you, once they fix it and the reviews start pouring in that the camera is good to go, I'll be picking another one up. Other than the camera software, this phone is amazing.
But even when i turned flash off the flash was still on for some reason. The lens placement in the center of the phone meant that you would take shots of your fingers instead. Since the phone is heavy it was hard to just hold the bottom half to take pics. They should put the lens on the top left/right.
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Youre dont mean the focus-assist lighting? You know, the light that makes your camera able to focus on things it might normally be too dark for it to focus on? Cause thats not flash.
I never take a picture of my fingers. Also, pressing on the screen to take a photo could help you out if you feel its too heavy to hold while using the manual button.
Personally the WP8 experience is on par with the experience I had on my SGS3 with android 4.1.
I like the homescreen far more than on Android, and the way social and email is integrated with the native apps like messaging, contacts, etcetera.
I dont like IE10 as much as Chrome, but thats MOSTLY because of how IE10 handles doubletap to zoom and textwrapping plus certain messageboards. Why no mobile browser besides the microB-browser has had swirlzooming is beyond me.
All in all, the 920 is better for me than the SGS3, and Id choose it over SGS3 any day of the week.
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I bought the 920 on weds..just returned today. The first one the shop had was DoA but the guy gave me another meant for another customer.The phone is top notch quality albeit on the heavier side. Camera placement in the center is not ideal and the phone could slip out of your hands..but its built like a tank. Screen is excellent and call quality is clear . Despite the weight it feels really good...better than the iphone 5 which i also have and night and day against any samsung phone (i had note 2 as well). Now the bad news.
Windows 8 mobile sucks!!! It took me an hour to setup my windows live or is it hotmail account. When I first setup it thought I was a child and gave me the round around telling me to check with family controls etc. Also I needed to put my credit card details etc just to access the app store. This process was also confusing since it redirected to the awful internet explorer mobile on the phone where the fonts were so small I couldnt see damn thing. Resizing the web page was cumbersome at best. I tried a few times...and i was so frustrated i felt like throwing the phone against the wall. In the end I did a hard reset and after more mucking around and searching on forums I got it working. But it was like pulling teeth.
Once I got my account setup..you cant change it unless you do a hard reset. So you are basically locked to that account. So if you have one older MS live account and a newer one , you wont be able to switch. This is the most retarded thing out. On android and iOs you can have many accounts as you want. I have a US, UK account which I like to use.
Anyway the first thing I did was go to the app store to download essentials such as Whatsapp , skype etc since nowadays we dont really talk anymore on the phone but message.Skype was ok and it has a special interface coz MS owns it. Whatsapp was a disaster, First time it took forever to load my contacts then say i had no contacts. 2nd time i got it to work but no video uploads. the interface is not as easy as on ios or droid. This is by no means MS fault but they should have checked to see if it works on newer phones. But I guess theres the rub. MS win 8 mobile has such a low user base, developers treat updates with the lowest priority. The app store has hotch potch skeleton app selection. You wont find spotify there but Nokia Music fills the gap albeit a poor substitute. I use my phone as music player first and foremost so music lovers will be disappointed. The MS sync tool with itunes is very bad. Playlists and songs werent copied and album art missing.
The microsoft email client is not as good as ios . You can change fonts and html messaged dont look as clean. I dont take many pics so didnt really try out the camera. But even when i turned flash off the flash was still on for some reason. The lens placement in the center of the phone meant that you would take shots of your fingers instead. Since the phone is heavy it was hard to just hold the bottom half to take pics. They should put the lens on the top left/right.
Surfing was an ok experience..windows wouldnt auto resize so most of the time you would get really small fonts.
Movies were good as display is excellent.. For some reason it also just shutdown completely last night (with 70% battery) and it took a soft reset to get it going again. The live tiles system is different and people who are tired of ios or droid may find this unique but the novelty factor wears off since not all tiles are live. The UI is smooth and there was no lag. Also little things like no batt percentage and some youtube videos wouldnt play (vevo) as it recognized win8 as mobile device. This works on ios and droid.
Bottom line...it wasnt a keeper since there are so many bugs to iron out.
Pros
beautiful high quality constructed phone. better than iphone5, htc/samsung note2 s3 etc
good yellow color
good UI..smooth
Cons
Win 8 mobile- THE BIGGEST reason why i returned it.
Camera placement
Apps (im not a heavy app user but the basic ones dont even work properly)
Slightly heavy to hold
It may be good for ppl who take a lot of photos since the camera is supposed to be the best on any phone..apart from that..would advise you to stay away until the win8 bugs are sorted.
PS i think Nokia/MS is desperate so they restricted supply to make it look as if the phone is hot and to get the buzz going. I really wanted to like it but couldnt get past the crap win 8 mobile. If the phone had droid or ios then it would be.. Also I think MS is padding the user reviews to make people buy it...
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Got a Lumia 920 yesterday for my wife (not a technically savvy person at all!) Once she had her bearings (about 5 minutes navigating around) it took her less than 5 minutes to set up all her e-mails. There was no need to give any credit card information, and the camera is really good in low lights... compared it to my S2. Daylight shots are a little washed out, but READ! a camera firmware patch is coming soon. Tech specs on the camera are really good, and so is the screen... these two and the solid constructions are the reason i opted for this phone. Pretty sure others would agree.
And in conclusion, if it took you over an hour to set up email, it's a good thing you returned this phone. I would highly recommend staying miles away from Android or Windows devices; a Leap-frog or an Apple product would work best for you.
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I read a post about how amazing Night mode was. So I played around with the scenes Close Ups, Cloudy, and Night Mode. So often, that stuff is just a gimmick, not on this phone!
I returned my Lumia 900 cause it was hard for me to transition from Android and it was lacking. I gave the 920 and WP8 another chance and never looked backed. It's restricted compared to how you have so much customization you can do on Android, but the 920 is far from being some kind of wash out. The stabilization of the camera is one of the best I've seen. I've take shots compared to my HTC One X and the stability feature is awesome.
Personally I love a heavy set phone. Gives me the feel of sturdiness. I've always liked heavier phone.
The screen in day light is simply the best thing I have ever seen. The way the color tones adjust to bright light is incredible. Even with the top down on my car I can see the screen crystal clear.
The speaker on this thing is SUPER loud. Louder than my Nexus 7. The EQ on this thing absolutely smashes anything my One X Beats Audio could dish out. It's even better than any EQ feature on Android 3rd party apps like Power Amp. When I adjust the EQ it adjust.
It took me minutes to set up my Live, Google, LinkedIn, Yahoo, NetZero, and Hotmail Account. The integration is very nice in how it works together.
I have my quarrels with WP8, but it's super stable and nicely integrated with apps optimized for it's ecosystem.
IMHO WP8 is at the point of what Froyo was for Android. One of those landmark version that will get this OS out in the wild.
Sorry to hear you not like it, I can understand as I been there with the 900, but I can't justify it with the 920. The apps will come, the stability will come, the updates to software will come.
I've actually had the worse upgrade of JB on my Nexus 7 when they fixed the bugs of forgetting to December in the calendar. And to be quite frank my 920 process faster than my One X with the same processor and my Nexus 7. I'll never stop using Android, but I'll never say WP8 sucks. There's no way.
I agree with OP regarding the email client; 1 account is not enought. For the rest i can only say that i setup my phone in 5 minutes with no problems at all. Using my 920 since 2 weeks, coming from an iphone4 and no regrets at all.
Look I'm sorry if I broke one of the 500 rules here, I am just desperately in search of help.
I have been a smart phone owner since 2009. I bought an iphone 3. I upgraded to a 3gs eventually, then last summer got my first note.
I went through five iphones because I kept sending them back due to various issues. I thought Android would be great and fix all my issues, but honestly I hate my phone and I just want a smartphone that works. Like I said I bought my first one in 2009 and I have just been trying to have a fully functional smartphone ever since and it is something I have never gotten to experience. Four years! Jesus, I just want one that works and doesn't give me random issues everytime I try to use it.
So my note is running android 4.0.4 I am going to list various issues I am having with it in the next post. I would do it in this post but I had it all typed up then this page just turned blank and I lost what I typed. I have no idea why.
Please keep in mind I have owned five Notes. I have sent them back for various issues, but these problems have persisted across all of them.
1. If I am using a web browser in landscape mode and go about ten seconds without touching the screen or buttons, the right side of the screen flashes black repeatedly.
2. When I use the default audio player the last song I picked automatically starts playing. It used to not autostart the music. How can I disable this?
3. When I am in an app and press home, sometimes after the app minimizes it comes right back up instead of going to the home screen. Why?
4. How come sometimes when I go to unlock my phone, the clock is in the middle instead of the top, which is what I have it set to?
5. When I attempt to download an image off the internet through any of the five browsers I have installed about 50% of the time the download fails regardless of 4G or wifi connection strength. How can I fix this?
6. Sometimes when I click a link on a webpage, the page jumps to another part of the webpage and activates a random link from that area. Wtf?
7. If I close every running app, disable every unrequired service and turn my screen brightness down all the way, I cannot use my browser and charge my phone at the same time without the battery draining quicker than it charges. How can I browse the web and charge my battery at the same time?
8. If I click up by issue #5 or #6 to edit something, this website scrolls the edit box all the way up to the top. The only way I can get back down to where I am typing this is to drag the text selection tool. Kind of annoying.
9. My lock screen setting is set to auto lock after ten minutes because I prefer to manually lock my phone when I'm done using it, not use auto lock. When I get a phone call this setting is overidden and the screen locks after ten seconds of inactivity following a phone call. How can I get my phone to always respect the value I selected for that setting rather than some of the time?
10. the default camera app has an option to set custom shortcuts. This is a useful feature. However every time I exit the application the shortcuts are reset to default, making that feature worthless. How can I set custom shortcuts permanently?
What's the common denominator among all these devices(ip*/sammy)?
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Maybe you should try the latest BlackBerry
mrhaley30705 said:
Maybe you should try the latest BlackBerry
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Or an old Nokia!
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boneless9000 said:
Look I'm sorry if I broke one of the 500 rules here, I am just desperately in search of help.
I have been a smart phone owner since 2009. I bought an iphone 3. I upgraded to a 3gs eventually, then last summer got my first note.
I went through five iphones because I kept sending them back due to various issues. I thought Android would be great and fix all my issues, but honestly I hate my phone and I just want a smartphone that works. Like I said I bought my first one in 2009 and I have just been trying to have a fully functional smartphone ever since and it is something I have never gotten to experience. Four years! Jesus, I just want one that works and doesn't give me random issues everytime I try to use it.
So my note is running android 4.0.4 I am going to list various issues I am having with it in the next post. I would do it in this post but I had it all typed up then this page just turned blank and I lost what I typed. I have no idea why.
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Ok I hate to be the one to say this but you will never find anything that will not have random issues. This is the way of smartphones. While One device may run perfectly the same device and the same OS version will have random issues.
Also might want to look into something called a logcat. It will help you find the issues you see
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What's the common denominator among all these devices(ip*/sammy)? .
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They all feel like a waste of money?
let me see if I can either answer or help you clarify what's needed to solve these issues.
First are you stock unrooted? running a custom rom? Rooted?
(each of the following number correlate with the issues you listed):
1) Stock web browser or all of the one's you've tried? By flashes black, does half the screen start flashing black then back to what's being displayed quickly?
2) the playing the last song if I recall is a restart "function" that the player does, check in the settings for that. Maybe someone else can answer this as I don't use my phone as an MP3 player, just pandora.
3) I've had this happen from time to time with my phone as well. I've noticed that it happens with memory intensive programs. I just hit the home button again. Don't know what to tell you there
4) Are you referring to the clock on your lock screen or status bar?
5) Is this issue one specific image? is it from one given website? have you tried dolphin browser? I can tell you that it does work on my phone from google front page.
6) This happens to me as well, it's annoying and I feel your pain. It happens to me when I go to click a link when I have my keyboard open which resizes and moves the webpage and then activates the click in the new location. Is this similar to your issue?
7) Are you using the charger that came with the phone or a charger that pipes 1A to the device for charging? a lot of chargers our there will only do 500mA and a lot of cables will limit the charging to speed to 500mA because they aren't shorted for full power charging. Though someone should correct me if I'm wrong here.
8) Editing likes to jump around, mainly due to what I mentioned in response to 6 because it closes and reopens the keyboard. Again that's from my experience. this has been limited when I moved to swiftkey and a JB rom.
9) I have no clue about this one. and have no idea what to tell you. I'd say play in the settings for this one.
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You kindly asked for help, so I’ll kindly try my best.
1. I have NEVER heard of anything like this. So you say this happened on different Notes? That is akward. I wonder if a different dpi setting will cure this for ya. If your rooted you can install xposed and change individual app dpi’s This will also aid in resolving your #8 issue.
2. This is a normal setting in default audio players. I suggest GoneMad audio player. It has TONS of features and device controls to solve this for ya.
3. I noticed this problem once before. I believe it’s an animation lag. I never seen it happen if I turn off transition animations. Try that and repost back.
4. This sounds like a governor issue. The cpu frequency drops when phone is locked. When it wakes up it lags and the clock doesn’t pop back to where it’s suppose to be. I notice this a LOT when I rotate from portrait to landscape while lockscreen is up.
5. When your image downloads fail, what’s going on with the phone? Same with when they do download. Is anything else running? Is screen locked at all during the download?
6. I notice this happening with different individual webpages. Sometimes a webpage will have an advertisement that slowly loads at the top or side. When it does eventually load the screen elongates which moves the spot we were on. But of course this always happens right when we’re clicking a link! Could this possibly be what’s happening to you?
7. Are you using the stock supplied usb cable and charger plug? Aftermarket chargers have different output voltages. If your using a cheapO it will only charge when not doing anything. And even then it’s still slow to charge!
8. Our phones aren’t the greatest for typing LONG paragraphs or replies. I changed my keyboard dpi so it’s a lil smaller. It gave me more room in landscape mode to see what’s above and I can scroll thru what I wrote easier. That’s not a perfect solution but it helps!
9. I believe this problem is a default security issue. I remember reading somewhere that a phone is set to lock after a phone call because our face could be touching it and press something it shouldn’t. Also that if you were to give your phone to someone to make a phone call having the phone unlocked could be a security breach to you. When you think about it for a second it’s not a bad feature afterall! I’ve given my phone to a coworker during a call and I wouldn’t want him playing with my phone for a second! But when the boss is on the phone with me and wants to talk to whom I’m standing beside I let him! Your problem could be solved with a newer release of JellyBean. I notice a setting in my phone that says "Exit to last activity on end call" which will allow phone to exit to the previous activity screen on end call rather than going to call log and locking.
10. This problem makes me think that you might of tweeked something you shouldn’t of. Why else would an app not remember it’s settings you stored? If it’s not a tweek issue, you can try installing a different camera app. There’s literally 100’s!
Sorry if those responses are of no help. I’m no expert they are just my thoughts on your issues. Good luck!
Originally Posted by boneless9000<br />
Look I'm sorry if I broke one of the 500 rules here, I am just desperately in search of help.<br />
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I have been a smart phone owner since 2009. I bought an iphone 3. I upgraded to a 3gs eventually, then last summer got my first note.<br />
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I went through five iphones because I kept sending them back due to various issues. I thought Android would be great and fix all my issues, but honestly I hate my phone and I just want a smartphone that works. Like I said I bought my first one in 2009 and I have just been trying to have a fully functional smartphone ever since and it is something I have never gotten to experience. Four years! Jesus, I just want one that works and doesn't give me random issues everytime I try to use it.<br />
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So my note is running android 4.0.4 I am going to list various issues I am having with it in the next post. I would do it in this post but I had it all typed up then this page just turned blank and I lost what I typed. I have no idea why.
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Ok I hate to be the one to say this but you will never find anything that will not have random issues. This is the way of smartphones. While One device may run perfectly the same device and the same OS version will have random issues.<br />
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Also might want to look into something called a logcat. It will help you find the issues you see
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God I ****ing hate my phone. I had my entire response typed out, got a phone call, then when I went back to my browser it refreshed the page and my **** got deleted. I cannot express how much I ****ing hate this piece of ****. That is not what I expect when an OS is advertised as having true multitasking. What garbage.
stock unrooted.
Flashes in every browser ive tried.
That music app never did that before and there is no option to chsnge it. i am not interested in replacing the app, i want to know how i can change the behavior back to how it was.
4. lock screen. setting stays the same (top) but when i go to unlock the phone sometimes its at the top something the middle. im just wondering why.
5. any website any browser any connection. I can be in a ****ing att store using their hotspot trying to download the google.com logo and it works half the time if that.
6. i dont know it just raneomly jumps around and clicks ****.
7. i am using the chargers that came with my phone. i cannot use my browser with all other apps closed and screen brightness cranked all the way down while my phone is plugged in and have the battery even stay level much less charge. my battery drops 10% if i look at my ****ing phone. i already got a second battery from att and this is the fifth note ive had too.
its so ****ing frustrating how there is no answers for anything at all. im just venting in general. i really, really appreciate people like you trying to take the time to help me out...but at the end of the day i have ****ing nothing at all to go on. i never ever find a solution to anything. everyone always says oh just try a different app or att is all well just send you a new phone. for ****s sake i just want the phone i use and the apps i use to ****ing work. ****.
Theoriginalgiga said:
let me see if I can either answer or help you clarify what's needed to solve these issues.
First are you stock unrooted? running a custom rom? Rooted?
(each of the following number correlate with the issues you listed):
1) Stock web browser or all of the one's you've tried? By flashes black, does half the screen start flashing black then back to what's being displayed quickly?
2) the playing the last song if I recall is a restart "function" that the player does, check in the settings for that. Maybe someone else can answer this as I don't use my phone as an MP3 player, just pandora.
3) I've had this happen from time to time with my phone as well. I've noticed that it happens with memory intensive programs. I just hit the home button again. Don't know what to tell you there
4) Are you referring to the clock on your lock screen or status bar?
5) Is this issue one specific image? is it from one given website? have you tried dolphin browser? I can tell you that it does work on my phone from google front page.
6) This happens to me as well, it's annoying and I feel your pain. It happens to me when I go to click a link when I have my keyboard open which resizes and moves the webpage and then activates the click in the new location. Is this similar to your issue?
7) Are you using the charger that came with the phone or a charger that pipes 1A to the device for charging? a lot of chargers our there will only do 500mA and a lot of cables will limit the charging to speed to 500mA because they aren't shorted for full power charging. Though someone should correct me if I'm wrong here.
8) Editing likes to jump around, mainly due to what I mentioned in response to 6 because it closes and reopens the keyboard. Again that's from my experience. this has been limited when I moved to swiftkey and a JB rom.
9) I have no clue about this one. and have no idea what to tell you. I'd say play in the settings for this one.
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OP you went through five iphones and five notes?
I don't think the phone is the problem.
boneless9000 said:
God I ****ing hate my phone. I had my entire response typed out, got a phone call, then when I went back to my browser it refreshed the page and my **** got deleted. I cannot express how much I ****ing hate this piece of ****. That is not what I expect when an OS is advertised as having true multitasking. What garbage.
stock unrooted.
Flashes in every browser ive tried.
That music app never did that before and there is no option to chsnge it. i am not interested in replacing the app, i want to know how i can change the behavior back to how it was.
4. lock screen. setting stays the same (top) but when i go to unlock the phone sometimes its at the top something the middle. im just wondering why.
5. any website any browser any connection. I can be in a ****ing att store using their hotspot trying to download the google.com logo and it works half the time if that.
6. i dont know it just raneomly jumps around and clicks ****.
7. i am using the chargers that came with my phone. i cannot use my browser with all other apps closed and screen brightness cranked all the way down while my phone is plugged in and have the battery even stay level much less charge. my battery drops 10% if i look at my ****ing phone. i already got a second battery from att and this is the fifth note ive had too.
its so ****ing frustrating how there is no answers for anything at all. im just venting in general. i really, really appreciate people like you trying to take the time to help me out...but at the end of the day i have ****ing nothing at all to go on. i never ever find a solution to anything. everyone always says oh just try a different app or att is all well just send you a new phone. for ****s sake i just want the phone i use and the apps i use to ****ing work. ****.
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no worries I completely understand the pain of having an issue and feeling like I'm the only one EVER to deal with it.
SO don't hate me for these next set of recommendations, it's just all part of the troubleshooting process. What I would do is a full factory reset. I mean wipe everything, and I do mean everything because I'm almost suspecting it could be a rogue app causing at least some of your issues. I believe you can revert all the way back to GB (someone will correct me if I'm wrong, it is the internet after all). then without installing anything at all try the stock web browser see if it still flashes and jumps around. If it does well it's what some Microsoft programs like to call a "feature". as for your power consumption issue. try installing this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.manor.currentwidget&hl=en . it isn't perfectly accurate, but it should tell you close to what your amperage that's going into your phone, which should be around 1000ma (or 1A). I know the issue you're referring to and it happens to me when I use the GPS on my truck using my truck adapter which is only 500mA. battery just drops and drops and drops.
After you've done all that and still don't have the desired results, flash ICS and try again.
Lastly I hate the browsing system on these phones as well. you can clearly tell it's a simulated multitasking system and it won't even load multiple pages at the same time and if you switch between the tabs it'll refresh the page and redownload it. Annoying as crap especially when you're trying to watch some pr0n. But it is much better than on my ipod touch so I deal with it. Where I guess I differ from a lot of people who buys this phone is I think of it as a place to get my emails, phone calls and look something up to prove something wrong. I don't feel a smartphone has really become a laptop or netbook replacement yet.
I hope these steps help. If all else fails and you're still having issues, maybe this phone just won't do what you want it to do. I know, I know that a phone should do what it advertises but when it doesn't live up to it, it's time to step to a different device. The S4 was just released and the HTC One is supposed to be a smokin phone too. And with the documented cases of issues you've been having I bet they'd be more than happy to get you to a different device without having to pay full price.
Again I hope these help.
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OP you went through five iphones and five notes?
I don't think the phone is the problem.
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Well explain how this happens:
- Three iphones in a row had an issue with getting dust under the screen. At the time I had an office job, so the phone saw clean slacks pockets and my desk at home, nothing else. The first time it happened they did a screen replacement first and the problem persisted. I never exposed them to extreme environments, never dropped them, nothing.
-I have had the audio port on my Note fail on three different Notes. I use headphones maybe once or twice a week, and when I drive I sometimes plug it up to my tape adapter. They are never subjected to unreasonable force, I never jam the plug in there or anything etc.
-I have had iphones and Notes run at about 30-50% overall speed as the others I have tried, when they are 100% fresh straight from the factory and have not had a single 3rd party app installed or anything.
-I have PC components from the 80's, a circa 2000 HDD based MP3 player from iriver I even used while skateboarding, an original NES and gameboy, the original Razor and countless other electronic devices that have performed flawlessly in the time that I have owned them.
Seriously, explain to me how it is my fault that all five galaxy notes I have tried fail to download a simple image file no matter how good my connection is.
Explain to me why every email application I have used on any smartphone, ios or droid, is so ****ing slow that after hitting refresh inbox I can switch to my browser, open my email providers page, type in my login infox and open my mailbox quicker than the app. Explain why its my fault I can refresh my inbox when I expect mail, see nothing, refresh it again immediately, then have it download five emails from an hour ago. What did I do wrong?
Explain to me why a week ago my phone decided I can't upload images due to "insufficient memory" despite having changed no settings, added no new apps etc. Explain to me what else I can do after resetting the phone, deleting chromes cache, manually stopping and disabling every non essential app that was running, clearing all running processes, clearing ram and resizing the photo. Explain to me why after all that I still cannot upload that photo with Chrome or any other browser, but I can intentionally run as many apps as I can at once, then upload the full size, unedited photo with an imgur app and it goes through no problem. How is that my fault?
How is it my fault that my battery dropped 5% in the time it took me to type this with screen brightness cranked to a minimum, no other apps running, wifi bluetooth and gps disabled and my phone plugged in to a known good outlet with factory wdapters? How is this my fault that I cannot use my phone and charge it at the same time?
How is it my fault that the camera app will not keep my shortcuts?
How is it my fault that a week ago, my music playing application decided to do the following: I pick x song off y album and let it play through a few songs. Q song, the fifth one in the album, is currently playing. I decide I want to listen to another artist. I unlock my phone and go back to the app while the song is still playing. As soon as I open the app it stops the current song and restarts the last song I opened, closing out song Q for song X. It never did that before. I changed no settings. What did I do wrong?
I have a total of maybe five apps I've even downloaded since getting this phone. A 1mb< notepad app, chrome, a sketchbook program and pdanet. All except the last were straight from googles store.
I just dont know. I feel like I paid 500$ for pure, condensed frustration that fits conveniently into my pocket. Every other electronic device I own does what it is supposed to. My PS3 doesnt decide to just stop working. My Wii is a tank. My car is a champ. My digital cameras are workhorses. What is so difficult about obtaining a functional smartphone?
I am A+ and Network+ certified. I know the basically means jack ****, but I'm not a complete idiot when it comes to electronics. I know how to take care of them, I know how to teoubleshoot. I built my first PC before my voice cracked. When I try to troubleshoot my phone I feel less productive than if I were to bang my head against a wall.
boneless9000 said:
I am A+ and Network+ certified. I know the basically means jack ****, but I'm not a complete idiot when it comes to electronics. I know how to take care of them, I know how to teoubleshoot. I built my first PC before my voice cracked. When I try to troubleshoot my phone I feel less productive than if I were to bang my head against a wall.
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As an A+ certified tech myself, you should know there is nothing like wiping the hard drive and starting over fresh.
The previous poster walks you through to factory reset the device, which is what I would recommend as well.
When wiping select factory data reset and wipe the cache too.
This will erase the internal SD card contents. Transfer that stuff over to external SD if you need it.
Set it up. Give it a couple reboots.
Computers and phones are different beasts. As I have incorporated the latter more into my business as of recent.
Hey boneless, I'm sorry to have offended you. Remember, I don't know anything about your background or your technical skills. I don't know how high your expectations of electronics are. So please, no offence intended. I'm just passing on my observation in an open forum.
If you want to blow off steam, go ahead. And I hope some of the suggestions help.