I have a lot of my daily and weekly apps loaded in /system/app. I do this to save space in the data folder for those apps and games that are ridiculous in size. I don't like to use the SD card anymore (I flash a lot). Usually I just make an update.zip or two and flash it with the ROM.
I don't remember Froyo doing this but the GB market automatically updates apps. I struggled with privacy settings as I've read through the forums to get it to stop with no success. Eventually I realized it did work but only for data apps.
My question is; Does anyone know how to disable automatic market updates for SYSTEM apps? If not, then any ideas on where to look? I've spent a couple days searching but only found disabling auto updates on DATA apps, no leads on the system ones.
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EDIT: Sorry I posted too early on my phone. I meant to put this in the Q&A Section. Please feel free to move.
Spikelangelo said:
I have a lot of my daily and weekly apps loaded in /system/app. I do this to save space in the data folder for those apps and games that are ridiculous in size. I don't like to use the SD card anymore (I flash a lot). Usually I just make an update.zip or two and flash it with the ROM.
I don't remember Froyo doing this but the GB market automatically updates apps. I struggled with privacy settings as I've read through the forums to get it to stop with no success. Eventually I realized it did work but only for data apps.
My question is; Does anyone know how to disable automatic market updates for SYSTEM apps? If not, then any ideas on where to look? I've spent a couple days searching but only found disabling auto updates on DATA apps, no leads on the system ones.
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EDIT: Sorry I posted too early on my phone. I meant to put this in the Q&A Section. Please feel free to move.
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Are you sure that Automatic Updates wasn't enabled for the apps before you moved them to system/app?
Go through your system apps and make a list of them. Go through the market searching for each app and make sure "Automatically Update" is not checked.
Originally I may not have, but in my process of trying to stop it I have done the above. At first I just pulled my apks and loaded them in an update zip. Once I flashed GSB 1.7 I had lots of random issues. Long story short I flashed 1.7 over a dozen times in a day trying to narrow the problem (in the end it turned out to be my third of three update.zips which did the bulk of the apps). In doing so I had updated all my apps and went through every single one in the market and unchecked auto update (that's when I figured out that the privacy settings does work but just on the /data/apps). I used Titanium Backup to integrate all the system updates into the ROM. I made a quick batch to pull all of my apps from /system/app and /data/app and once I reflashed without my broken update.zip used my batch again to push all the apps (just my actual apps, not everything in /system/app folder) to their respectable locations (which now 1.7 runs awesome BTW). Then I ran the market just to catch any changes (I bought a new one after I did the pull) and there were about 6 other updated apps and 2 that I never update now because I don't like the newer versions. They all started updating automatically again.
I don't know if there is something I'm just missing or maybe something with the vender.apk. The Google apps I didn't push, I just left that to the gapps update.zip. Maybe I need to pull/push the current version of vender.apk before I reflash as well?
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Which apps did you all install when the OTA hit?
My first install was network traffic stats, to learn just what was using all my gigs (turns out it was system processes)
Next was some apps to SD app.
Anyone found some really nifty froyo apps, you'd like to tell about?
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Haven't got it yet, but I plan on getting Voice Actions if it hasn't been bundled in yet. Haven't thought about anything else yet though.
Chrome to Phone is my favourite Froyo app, and my first install post OTA update. Really useful just to throw links to my device before going out; I also set it to load the pages automatically while I'm on my home network, so they're ready by the time I'm out of the door.
Other than than I've just moved a ton of my apps to the SD, nice to have the memory cleaned up a little!
Hello , like many of you , i flash my phone quite often. It seems like we always have a new update or new rom . Trust me , im not complaining . I think its amazing .
I am using Titanium Backup now , but its quite a task to sit there and click install on 80+ apps . Is there a way we can auto install our apps with each flash ? Im not positive , but i think busybox can do something to this degree .. but havent really been able to find a cut and dry explanation .
Thanks guys
Just pay the titanium dude and get prO and its a three click task. And while the phones restoring...More time to spend searching for stuff.
Wow I didn't know that was a perk to the pro version. Buying it now. Thanks.
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google also auto restores your apps now.. it did it when I flashed and wiped everything to 2.8 again, and my 3 apps I had previously downloaded were automatically restored by Google, lol.
Yeah that has been hit or miss for me lately ... mostly miss
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wideopn11 said:
Here is a work around I've been using. In TiBu, go to option, more, and create "update.zip". This will put a cwm flashable zip on your SD card that you can use to put TiBu back and everything else before entering your gmail info and giving OTA access to unwanted app downloads. After you restore what you want you can go to manage applications and clear market info so when you finally log on and go to the market it "should" only populate the apps you have installed already in 'my apps'. This might not totally work but it should cut back on unwanted downloads. Let me know if this method works out better for you.
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Just thought I would share this from another thread on the subject of google auto restore.
verrrryyy interesting...
This was offered up in that same thread after the 'update.zip' method was suggested:
You can avoid this by skipping account creations at first boot, just hit skip skip next skip. Then you can go into settings and make sure data backup is unchecked. This prevents automatic data backup/restore when you do log into your account. Now log into your Google account. During setup it will ask if you want your data backed up, make sure to uncheck that! It actually comes up with a message that asks if you really want to delete existing backups on Google servers? Of course you do want it to so this won't happen again.
So I haven't quit looking into what actually causes the market "My Apps" issue. While I do feel it truly is the database I have a slightly more detailed theory as to why it does it. However in order to test this theory I need to take a general poll.
How many of you discovered this issue after using some sort of Root tool (ie: Rom Toolbox, Root Tools, Titanium Backup)?
How many of you have accidentally or on purpose used the Market Fix that supplement these programs?
The reason I'm asking is semi obvious I suppose. While these programs can do great good it would appear that if not done correctly they can also do bad. Last night I decided to play with it a bit more and I Linked ALL system apps and user apps to the market. After a few minutes or a reboot I would get the error again.So I went ahead and broke all links again, deleted the .dbs file and started all over again. This time only doing system apps and user apps that I knew were updatable. This lead to the market functioning much better. However I'm not finished yet. I want to figure out what apps and programs trigger this. At this point in time most User apps are okay but I have found I have linked considerably less system apps to the market. What I would like to ideally do is narrow the list down to just a few apps that shouldn't be linked.
Also if anybody would be so kind as to copy and share their database file that would help tremendously. This file needs to be completely stock having NEVER used any of these programs to edit the market links. Sharing this could potentially help all Android users having this extremely annoying issue. If you would like to keep the amount of users who this down to just me you can PM me or even send it to me over Skype or some other messenger with a file share tool. Thank you all in advance.
For those of you currently having the issue I have posted a fix here: http://rootzwiki.com...market-my-apps/
What issue?
DirkGently said:
What issue?
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With the "My Apps" being a blank page and not containing any of the apps from the account.
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Hey guys,
First of all a little intro. I started playing with rooting, flashing mods and ROMs few weeks ago. I have been reading the general, Q&A and dev forums a lot and I have made sure from my end that this question has not yet been asked. In the case that these questions have already been asked and answered, please direct me to that thread.
So, I started off with just rooting my phone, few days later installed a custom kernel, few days later started modding stuff like battery icons and like and just few days back flashed a custom ROM for the first time.
After flashing the ROM (Turkbey 32.1 ported to i777 by LilChris), I restored whatever I could using Titanium backup PRO (restored only missing apps+data). But there were few things that did NOT get restored and have to reconfigure all that from scratch. Here's the list of things that had to be reconfigured.
AUTO START PREFERENCES: Is it possible to port the auto start settings to a new ROM? I had configured many apps to not auto start at bootup using Gemini App Manager. But after flashing this ROM, I have to do everything again. TiBU apparently couldn't backup/restore those settings from Gemini App Manager.
FROZEN STATES: Is it possible to preserve the frozen state of apps when switching ROMs? I had to re-freeze few selected apps (I have few rogue apps which I keep installed but frozen hoping that a future update will improve that app's impact on battery. Example: Facebook, Kik, ..) because restore using TiBU simply restored those apps but did not re-freeze them.
Thanks.
A request to the mod: Please move this to the correct forum in case it is not. I keep seeing questions of this genre in "General" as well as "Q&A" forums. So I am not 100% sure if this is the right place for this question.
Wow! About 100 views and no replies? Is my question too dumb?
Let me rephrase the question this way:
How do you guys do backup/restore of autostart pref and frozen states of apps? Or do you care to do that?
I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "autostart preferences". And, you cant save the "frozen apps" from TiBu. Just refreeze them when you install a new rom. It should only take a few seconds to do that.
I know what he means, and I don't know of a way to take the preferences with you. I've restored an app with data (autostarts) and it didn't take the saved data with it. It makes sense that you wouldn't be able to do it. Restoring nandroids restores it as it was though, but not across roms. I'll keep an eye on this thread in case someone knows of a way.
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nyydynasty said:
I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "autostart preferences".
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I use Gemini App Manager to control which apps can auto start under different conditions. For example, I don't want Fluent News to start when the phone boots. If needed I will start the app manually and then let it fetch the latest news. "Autostarts" app can also do the same thing. These apps don't have a way to export my preferences. So when I flash a new ROM, I have to set the auto start preferences of 10s of apps manually. I am looking for a way to avoid this manual step every time I flash a new ROM.
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And, you cant save the "frozen apps" from TiBu. Just refreeze them when you install a new rom. It should only take a few seconds to do that.
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I have over 300 apps and I keep quite a few apps frozen and defrost them only when needed. Few examples of such apps: GPS Status, GTalk, bunch of system apps (even on custom ROMs). It takes quite some time for me to scroll through that app list on TiBU, reading the app names one by one and freezing the required.
Well, just today I read somewhere that I could filter the current frozen apps, apply a label to them and export the settings to update.zip. After flashing a new ROM, flashing that update.zip should retrieve my label assignments. I haven't yet tried that, but will on my next ROM flash.
jazzboyrules said:
Well, just today I read somewhere that I could filter the current frozen apps, apply a label to them and export the settings to update.zip. After flashing a new ROM, flashing that update.zip should retrieve my label assignments. I haven't yet tried that, but will on my next ROM flash.
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good luck
Not sure if this will help you, but you may want to have a look at Boot Manager (app)
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good luck
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That technique worked for freezing my selecting apps using batch operation!
Alright. One problem solved. Now looking for a way to backup/restore my autostart preferences.
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AUTO START PREFERENCES: Is it possible to port the auto start settings to a new ROM? I had configured many apps to not auto start at bootup using Gemini App Manager. But after flashing this ROM, I have to do everything again. TiBU apparently couldn't backup/restore those settings from Gemini App Manager.
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I've used System Tuner (it's on the Market) to do this, that is disable/re-enable individual apps from startup, in the past. It has a LOT of options, can almost replace TiBu (well not really but it does have some backup options). I couldn't find a setting that would easily export/import preferences but I think it puts some of it's data on the sdcard so it might survive wipes.
If I figure it out either way I'll repost.
Hey all,
Just come across this and wanted to know if it was 'normal' for some apps to do this or some form of encryptiony type thing.
When flashing new roms I use our ROMCleaner to backup and restore apks. Recently Ive noticed some apks not being backed up and needing a redownload from the market.
Notably ADW Ex 1.3.3.8, SickStache and the Natwest Banking app.
After having a look through my system it seems the apks are not actually in /data/app, system/app or even installed on my sdcard.
I noticed a while back that the Natwest app was actually being installed as a .zip and couldnt be installed back as a zip, or renamed as a apk, using ROMcleaner. This I thought was pretty cool seeing as its a banking app and a way of dealing with security.
Now with ADW I managed to get the apk back by using TB. Moving to internal (still not appearing in data/app) and then converting to a system app. The apk was then present in system/app.
Is this a new form of app encryption? If it is its a pretty cool way of dealing with piracy, no apk = no stealing
Or is there something wrong?
Yeah, it is. One of the main features of JellyBean was paid app encryption. Play Store automatically downloads paid apps into an encrypted partition in /data. This is currently disabled, because the implementation of this paid app encryption caused a lot of problems, especially paid app widgets and live wallpapers disappearing after reboot. This happened because the encrypted partition was being loaded AFTER the Android system booted up, so while the system was booting it couldn't see any of these apps and their data and didn't load them. Google hasn't developed a fix for that yet and so they've turned the feature off to avoid frustration among users. Currently the paid apps download like before without going into any encrypted partition.
http://www.android.com/about/jelly-bean/
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=34880
http://blog.gsmarena.com/google-dis...cryption-after-issues-with-several-paid-apps/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...n-the-play-store-google-disables-drm-for-now/
http://www.talkandroid.com/126461-jelly-bean-encryption-negatively-affects-paid-apps/
http://techie-buzz.com/mobile-news/...eature-breaks-account-sync-for-paid-apps.html
http://www.gadgettweet.com/2012/08/jelly-bean-app-encryption-makes-mess-in.html#.UNw3VG9HLAE
sashank said:
Yeah, it is...
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Wicked, thanks for the info! Thought something had gone with my phone lol
It seems some apps, free or paid, still do get 'encrypted' in the 4.1.2 ROM im using so dunno, maybe some still do.
Anyway, at least I know whats happening now and can work around it.
Many thanks for the info as well, much appreciated