Radio Version - HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So guys I'm wondering, is there a way I can find out what radio I'm using while I'm using Android from NAND? I want to try WinMo with a NRG ROM but I'm not too sure what radio I have and I don't want to brick my phone. OR should I have a radio compatible because I'm already using MAGLDR and HSPL etc? Thanks.

Skellyyy said:
So guys I'm wondering, is there a way I can find out what radio I'm using while I'm using Android from NAND? I want to try WinMo with a NRG ROM but I'm not too sure what radio I have and I don't want to brick my phone. OR should I have a radio compatible because I'm already using MAGLDR and HSPL etc? Thanks.
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Hi there Skellyyy.
To find out what Radio you have while you are running Andriod go to Settings and scroll down to Band frequency. It should have a number that looks like this "15.42.50.11U 2.15.50.14". Your numbers may not be the same as mine but the format will be the same. The 15.42.50.11U is my Protocol version, and the 2.15.50.14 is my Radio version. Now if you need a different Radio version with the ROM you want to flash then go to this thread. It is a very good place to learn about Radios and what they do, plus you can probably download the radio you need or want there. It has like all the radios there just about.
I see you are from Dublin, Ireland so maybe someone here on XDA can tell you what radio is reported as working best in this area if you do not have to have a spacific radio version for tbe ROM you want to flash.
I give credit to senior member samsamuel from who I learned this from but once you see a list of radios together it is kind of apparent. But if the radio has a 51 in it then it is a regular HD2 radio, but if it has a 50 in it then it is a TMOUSA radio. Example 2.xx.51.xx is a regular HD2 radio and 2.xx.50.xx is a TMOUSA radio.
Hope this helps you out.

Thanks for the reply and found it out on my own but thanks anyway. Yeah, I think you may be wrong about the radio .50 and .51 thong though. I have a 2.15.50.14 radio and I'm on a EU Leo. This'll work on WinMo ROM's will it?
May sound crazy, but I bought my HD2 like two months ago with Android already on NAND so I never used WinMo before and I'm just curious to see what its like on the HD2. What it should be like nativly.
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Skellyyy said:
Thanks for the reply and found it out on my own but thanks anyway. Yeah, I think you may be wrong about the radio .50 and .51 thong though. I have a 2.15.50.14 radio and I'm on a EU Leo. This'll work on WinMo ROM's will it?
May sound crazy, but I bought my HD2 like two months ago with Android already on NAND so I never used WinMo before and I'm just curious to see what its like on the HD2. What it should be like nativly.
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The tmous radios will work on a EU leo, however the EU radios will kill a tmous phone....
If you have an EU handset then you need to flash a .50. radio to enable the extra memory trick required for flashing most custom roms. iirc.......
I use an energy rom and would highly reccomend them, however if your used to android and not WM6.5 then you may not be too impressed.
Go for a rom with CHT2.0 cooked in as this is must have, in my opinion for anybody using WM6.5.........

conantroutman said:
The tmous radios will work on a EU leo, however the EU radios will kill a tmous phone....
If you have an EU handset then you need to flash a .50. radio to enable the extra memory trick required for flashing most custom roms. iirc.......
I use an energy rom and would highly reccomend them, however if your used to android and not WM6.5 then you may not be too impressed.
Go for a rom with CHT2.0 cooked in as this is must have, in my opinion for anybody using WM6.5.........
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Thanks. What's CHT 2.0? I'm merely just going to try WinMo for maybe a day and see what all the complaints are about. Is the memory trick like using the Ext3 partition on an SD card for data or something?
So I should be fine flashing a WinMo ROM on my radio?
I was planning on trying an NRG ROM, one that was close to stock but with some improvements and tweaks and what-not. What other ROM's do you recommend?
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Ive only ever used energy roms as Im not really a flash addict. I prefer to stick with one and tweak the hell out of it
CHT2.0 = Cookies Home Tab 2.0
Its an add-on for the HTC sense UI, its basically the way HTC should have made the sense interface. It allows you much more flexibility in how you can customise the home screens.
You can find it here.....
There are energy roms with it already cooked in, thats probably the one I would recommend.
Other popular roms are Dutty's Roms and Artemis Roms.
You'll find these in the 6.5 Rom development section, they're too close to stock for me though.
The thing about 6.5 is that it needs time and patience to get it set up how you want, once you acheive that no other OS compares as far as Im concerned.
re the radio memory trick;
Im not sure how it compares to the android partition thing as Im really not clued up on that but you dont need to do anything as long as you have the right radio and the rom has been cooked properly it'll be all good.

Skellyyy said:
Thanks. What's CHT 2.0? I'm merely just going to try WinMo for maybe a day and see what all the complaints are about. Is the memory trick like using the Ext3 partition on an SD card for data or something?
So I should be fine flashing a WinMo ROM on my radio?
I was planning on trying an NRG ROM, one that was close to stock but with some improvements and tweaks and what-not. What other ROM's do you recommend?
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CHT 2.0 stands for Cookies Home Tab 2.0 it is a defferent manila home screen that really rocks. The CHT 2.0 makes the Windows Mobile home screen like the Andriod home screen by giving you pages left and right, but it unlike Andriod it gives you pages up and down too. If you are use to Andriod you will really like CHT 2.0.
The memory trick that conantroutman mention is where the ROM make the HD2 think it has the same amount of memory as a TMOUSA HD2 or atleast I think that is what he meant. The Euro HD and The TMOUSA HD2 have different ram and memory specs.
Yes the Euro HD2 can flash a TMOUSA radio but the TMOUSA HD2 can only flash TMOUSA radios, if it is not a TMOUSA radio and it is flashed to a TMOUSA HD2 it will brick the HD2. Your radio you have will work with Win Mo ROMs. If I was you though I would run a task 29 befor flashing the Win Mo ROM just so you will have a clean HD2 to flash the ROM to. Also I would mosf definitly advise you to flash a custom ROM cause if you try to flash the official ROM for your HD2 it will remove both HSPL and MAGLD from your HD2. You will want to keep both of these so hou can reflash a NAND Andriod ROM to your HD2 when you get tired of Win Mo or nust want to revert back to Andriod.

Thanks for all the info guys.
I'm downloading the Sencity NRG ROM now. One thing though, it has two versions, 28244 and 21916, does it matter which one I download or is one for the US Leo and one for the EU?

To sum it up quickly........
28244 = 6.5.x - start button in the bottom left of the screen and two big softkeys next to it - slightly newer build version but slightly more unstable.
Apparently more finger friendly.
21918 = 6.5 - start button in the top left on the taskbar. The official build which all stock roms are based on. In my opinion looks cleaner and more stable.
Both will work on either model. Check some screenshots to see the visual differences, I dont like the look of 28244 but its all down to personal taste.

28244 is newer & popular as far more finger friendly due to menu & close keys in in bottom bar.
These ROMs set up well far surpass android.

I'm on 21916 now. Feels like I have a new phone! Still need to get used to it.
How do I get my google contacts to sync to my phone?

Skellyyy said:
I'm on 21916 now. Feels like I have a new phone! Still need to get used to it.
How do I get my google contacts to sync to my phone?
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I was about to tell you I dont think its possible...........
Then I found this....
Never done it myself but should work fine.
Activesync is the connection between the HD2 and the PC. If your on XP.
If your using Vista or Win7 you might need to dl Windows Mobile Device Centre to get a connection.
Enjoy your "new phone"

Skellyyy said:
I'm on 21916 now. Feels like I have a new phone! Still need to get used to it.
How do I get my google contacts to sync to my phone?
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I would really recommend 28244 builds as they offer advanced features & more touch friendly UI.
Enjoy it, Android is quite dull & limited compared to an Energy ROM with a clued up user.

Sad to say... I had to go back to NAND Android. Gave WinMo a shot, but I just felt it's so outdated. Maybe because I've tried WP7 and Android before it. Just found it a bit too business-man like for me. Just overall, found it not as good as the up to date OS' out there atm. Oh well, maybe I'll try it again soon.

I'm shocked, Android is dull as mud & as flexible as glass.
You should of tried it a bit longer.

Skellyyy said:
Sad to say... I had to go back to NAND Android. Gave WinMo a shot, but I just felt it's so outdated. Maybe because I've tried WP7 and Android before it. Just found it a bit too business-man like for me. Just overall, found it not as good as the up to date OS' out there atm. Oh well, maybe I'll try it again soon.
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I saw that coming........
I just slapped some Gingerbread on my SD card........
Can feel the greasy claws of MAGLDR tapping on my shoulder

conantroutman said:
I saw that coming........
I just slapped some Gingerbread on my SD card........
Can feel the greasy claws of MAGLDR tapping on my shoulder
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Put a MIUI ROM on there and you'll feel like a good smack in the face of android... to wake up and smell all that (eclair, froyo, gingerbread and honeycomb goodness).

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Question: Official HTC vs. Cooked Roms

Hi, I wanted to know that after flashing Hard-SPL on my Hermes, can I simply download the official HTC Mobile 6.0 rom and flash it on my Hermes, or do I need to use some specific utility to flash that HTC Official Mobile 6.0 rom?
right now I care about good performance but I want all the features too and more official ones ( i'd prefer microsofts browser over opera, windows media player over some other audio player ), would I be happier with some cooked rom like VP3G's Windows Mobile 6 v2.0 ( i find this quite popular ) or would the HTC Official do fine? Sorry for asking rom preference if it is not approved over here, then my main question would be
whether you need some utility to install the official HTC Mobile 6 rom or you simply run the 54.3 MB HTC_TyTN_WWE_3.54.255.3_6275_1.48.00.10_108.exe and follow the onscreen instructions?
I think that to install the official rom you don't need to HARD-SPL flash it.
Only if you have a cooked ROM or a ROM that's not an original to your phone you need HARD-SPL (example If you want to install the original HTC-ROM on a Orange phone or something like that).
I prefer the Schap's ROM, this one is stable and works quite nice.
I've removed the original HTC ROM within a day because it was slow, crashed too much and it uses a crappy PDF reader (I prefer Adobe this one is faster than the one HTC uses).
Once you have HardSPL, you can flash all you want.
Seriously, I would load up one, run it for a day or two and then try another one. Yeah, it takes some rebuilding each time (to re-sync data and relaod other apps), but it gets to be pretty quick and it will be worth it to get the ROM you like the best.
I agree that the Original ROMs seem to be more bloated and slower and often (ironically) less stable.
I have tried MANY and have settled on the Black ROMs (currently X RC). Slueth's was also GREAT, and I understand that VP3G and Schaps are also awesome, but I have not tried their most recent ones. You really cannot go wrong once you get going.
hmmmmm, I have flashed a Nokia E70 before ofcourse the experience is totally different but I know the basic precautionary measures, however, I was wondering how much of a risk would it be to be flashing new roms every other day, by the way I forgot to mention that I have/going to get in a few days Cingular 8525, thats why HTC rom isn't original for me...
I like these custom rom's but I have one question, I love the dark green look I saw somewhere on an ebay page, are the custom rom's hardcoded to a specific theme or you can change themes ( i don;t even know if windows mobile has themes in the first place ), if I am over my themeing problems, then I guess i gotta choose the rom thats all...
I am in USA right now but going to Pakistan in two weeks, I see this radio upgrade 1.43.00.00, is it worth upgrading to it? My uses are GPRS, GSM, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, and maybe Infrared too...
If someone has tried quite a lot of rom's maybe he/she can suggest me a good rom to switch to?
As much as a clean simple hermes user i wanted to be, I am getting more and more pulled towards modding my hermes and trying all sorts of stuff
todd_jg said:
I have tried MANY and have settled on the Black ROMs (currently X RC). Slueth's was also GREAT, and I understand that VP3G and Schaps are also awesome, but I have not tried their most recent ones. You really cannot go wrong once you get going.
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Is this Black Rom that you are talking about listed on this page? http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=category&sectionid=6&id=13&Itemid=26
TyTN best rom upgrade?
I own a TyTN with rom version:1.18.255.3, date:07/22/06, radio: 1.03.03.10, ExtRom: 1.18.255.106
Although every post is very helpful, I still feel confused about the "right" upgrade for my device.
I tried to download the latest version from HTC official web site, but I still wait for a registration confirmation from them (one week ago ) and I can't download anything.
I have to admit that my TyTN works perfectly at the moment.
But I still want the latest version
Can someone help me?
Go to THIS LINK and then flash like a madman! It is fun and pretty safe (as long as you do the HardSPL upgrade). We were all nervous once, but now I am sure that I have flashed my phone at least 100 times.
Thanks a lot I'll try it and come back for sharing.
Which version do you prefer? How about the WM6 Black Majik?
Sorry for asking again, but I couldn't be able to do that for ... 100 times
Schaps 3.54c (4MB or even better 6MB pagepool) if you want to have Greek customisation after the install.
TyTNic said:
Thanks a lot I'll try it and come back for sharing.
Which version do you prefer? How about the WM6 Black Majik?
Sorry for asking again, but I couldn't be able to do that for ... 100 times
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Majik is a bit old now. I prefer the latest Black X RC release. Haven't checked in a few days, that could be old too Black Satin is newer than Majik also.
lagoskon is right about Schaps - his ROMs are good, Sleuth has some good ones, VP3G is well respected... really, I am not sure you can go wrong. I would just pick one and give it a try and if you don't like it, try another one. Only the first couple are difficult/scary. Do put Olipro's HardSPL on there first though - will keep you safe.

Which custom ROM for me?

Im getting a bit fed-up with the stock ROM from HTC. Too much crap on it but what Im really sick about is that its quite unstable too. Im thinking of going for those kitchen ROM like Heroes or the like. My question is, what are the recommendations that would work on my local SingTel set. Some of my preferences are:
a) WM6.1 & TouchFlo, hopefully with all the fixes/patches.
b) Stripped of the stuffs I dont need like; Opera, GoogleMaps, YouTube...
Any recommendations?
treo927 said:
Im getting a bit fed-up with the stock ROM from HTC. Too much crap on it but what Im really sick about is that its quite unstable too. Im thinking of going for those kitchen ROM like Heroes or the like. My question is, what are the recommendations that would work on my local SingTel set. Some of my preferences are:
a) WM6.1 & TouchFlo, hopefully with all the fixes/patches.
b) Stripped of the stuffs I dont need like; Opera, GoogleMaps, YouTube...
Any recommendations?
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Maybe a Motorola Razr?
This post is kinda eh... well, the Raphael has so many capabilities, Opera, GoogleMaps/GPS are two of it's major attributes?!? I've not found a need for YouTube either but still...
If you're needing a simple no frills ROM, Da_G has one in the forum. Here, let me Google that for you:
Da_G Clean ROM
treo927 said:
Im getting a bit fed-up with the stock ROM from HTC. Too much crap on it but what Im really sick about is that its quite unstable too. Im thinking of going for those kitchen ROM like Heroes or the like. My question is, what are the recommendations that would work on my local SingTel set. Some of my preferences are:
a) WM6.1 & TouchFlo, hopefully with all the fixes/patches.
b) Stripped of the stuffs I dont need like; Opera, GoogleMaps, YouTube...
Any recommendations?
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I recommend cooking one yourself, with only the apps you want, and none of the ones you don't. hilaireg & Da_G (along with the creators if the kitchen, ervius & bepe) have made it quite easy to do so.
[KITCHEN][WWE][13.06.09]Windows Mobile 6.1 21051 Kitchen for Fuze/TouchPro [GSM]
or, if you prefer 6.5, the ever-build-changing kitchen for that is
[KITCHEN][MULTILANG][18.07.09]Windows Mobile 6.5 23007/21928 Kitchen for Raphael GSM
Trust me, it's not as difficult as it seems (unless you want to get REALLY into it - which is when the fun begins).
lavalamp said:
Maybe a Motorola Razr?
This post is kinda eh... well, the Raphael has so many capabilities, Opera, GoogleMaps/GPS are two of it's major attributes?!? I've not found a need for YouTube either but still...
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The thing with GoogleMaps that comes with HTC is that its installed to the ROM & overtime, it would take a lot of space on the Phone. I hate having to uninstall the current version only later to install it back again to Storage Card. Might as well get a ROM that comes without it. As for YouTube, the version that comes with HTC is old & furthermore, I cant uninstall it. Thats why Im looking for a ROM that is devoid of both so that I can get the latest and can specify th installation dir.
treo927 said:
The thing with GoogleMaps that comes with HTC is that its installed to the ROM & overtime, it would take a lot of space on the Phone. I hate having to uninstall the current version only later to install it back again to Storage Card. Might as well get a ROM that comes without it. As for YouTube, the version that comes with HTC is old & furthermore, I cant uninstall it. Thats why Im looking for a ROM that is devoid of both so that I can get the latest and can specify th installation dir.
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Reading Captain Throwback's post has got me considering cooking my own ROM.
The Raphael is a damn fine phone. I've never had an issue with memory or running out of storage but I don't keep too many 'media' type files on the device. In any regard, between Da_G's Plain ROM or cooking your own as the Captain has suggested, you will be heading in the right direction. I had my phone with the stock ROM long enough for the battery to charge then it was flashed. You'll be impressed no matter the direction you choose.
Have fun!
treo927 said:
Im getting a bit fed-up with the stock ROM from HTC. Too much crap on it but what Im really sick about is that its quite unstable too.
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Unstable? Latest HTC ROM (from february) is the most stable of all. You'll see what's the meaning of the term "unstable" when you try some of the cooked ROMs, especially 6.5. I've tried at least 5 different cooked ROMs, and after max few days I return to HTC official ROM, because of stability and usability.
treo927 said:
Im getting a bit fed-up with the stock ROM from HTC. Too much crap on it but what Im really sick about is that its quite unstable too. Im thinking of going for those kitchen ROM like Heroes or the like. My question is, what are the recommendations that would work on my local SingTel set. Some of my preferences are:
a) WM6.1 & TouchFlo, hopefully with all the fixes/patches.
b) Stripped of the stuffs I dont need like; Opera, GoogleMaps, YouTube...
Any recommendations?
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Well mine of course!!! Duh...like you even need to ask
(Sarcasm for those that can not detect it online)
treo927 said:
The thing with GoogleMaps that comes with HTC is that its installed to the ROM & overtime, it would take a lot of space on the Phone. I hate having to uninstall the current version only later to install it back again to Storage Card. Might as well get a ROM that comes without it. As for YouTube, the version that comes with HTC is old & furthermore, I cant uninstall it. Thats why Im looking for a ROM that is devoid of both so that I can get the latest and can specify th installation dir.
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From the sounds of it you have a large storage card right? Why then waste space for pictures/music etc on the storage card by then going and installing apps on it? The only thing that is used in my devices built in memory is programs, as it should be. Use the 300 MB on board memory to fill up with all the pointless apps you want and store all data on a memory card. Programs will run faster from on board memory, plus a lot of chefs "modularise" prgrams that are installed on the device and therefore they use the virtual memory a lot more efficiently.
I would liken the way I compartmentalise my phone as being an install on a computer:
"C:" Drive for main OS and programs
"D:" Drive for documents etc
This means that you change out the OS without losing all your data. If you then use things like UC when you install a ROM cooked by a chef on here, you can flash your device 10 times a day and each time within 10-15 minutes of flashing the ROM you will be fully up and running like you hadnt even changed the os!!
For example, I am a chef (a beginner in the grand scheme of things) but when I am cooking a new ROM I can flash my device as fast as I can cook a new ROM (Bughunting is a nightmare!) but EVERY time I flash, I have my activesync running, my personal IMAP email running, my WIFI access points for home and work set up, my GPRS settings set up and extra cabs installed and my Owner information imported, and all of that happens as I install the ROM. Only thing I have to manually do is sync the clock (only cos I cant be bothered to get that working automatically!)
As for youtube, most, if not all the ROMs cooked up here have the latest HTC youtube app installed (I wouldnt bother with the official youtube app as it has less functionality)
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At0mAng said:
Well mine of course!!! Duh...like you even need to ask
(Sarcasm for those that can not detect it online)
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This is the guy who first got me into cooking properly with his old 6.1 kitchen Cheers At0mAng!
Closing thread guys... Rom preference is all personal preference.. Please flash roms and see what fits you best
Peace,
Joshua

Wich ROM for a TouchPro? Stock or custom?

Hi!
I still have the stock-ROM on my TouchPro. There is a ROM-Update on the
HTC-website from the 2009-08-30. Is it already WM6.5 or just a different
update? If, what is the favorised custom ROM?
actual ROM:
ROM-Version: 1.90.407.4 GER
ROM-Date: 08/23/08
modem: 1.02.25.19
protocoll: 52.33.25.17U
Any help, please? :}
To be honest, I've tried in the last year almost all ROM's posted in this Raphael Forum.
My advise, if you need and use the PDA for normal business use stick with the Stock ROM, or upgrade to the latest 'official' posted in XDA-Wiki. If you don't mind your phone crashing or failing then try and 'play' with the ROM's available.
You and Chefs don't get me wrong, but the 6.5 and especially the Sense versions are far to unstable, though it shows what could be possible on these PDA's.
That doesn't sound really promising... hm.
The custom ROMs for the HTC TyTN did work good. Pity.
I'm curious for the 6.5-GUI, though.
At the moment I'm using the Iphone more often since I got
"tethering" working without the need of paying for it and
specially because the TouchPro-headset broke... Not
really a cheap replacement for it. The China-plagiats
suck... sound like crap.
personally the custom roms have worked great for me and are in general faster than the stock rom. unless u go sense or manila 2.5 whatever u want to call it, they are pretty stable too.
read the instructions on how to load the rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448008
only thing i dont like about the guide, is the hard reset at stylus settings, because that prevents the rom from loading its software if it needs any. i just let it load whatever it wants.
and then try out TAEL
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=561158
or
Energy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=536751
both of these are my personal favorites and run like a charm. with a stock rom, the touch pro is a waste of hardware.
k.electron said:
personally the custom roms have worked great for me and are in general faster than the stock rom. unless u go sense or manila 2.5 whatever u want to call it, they are pretty stable too.
read the instructions on how to load the rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448008
only thing i dont like about the guide, is the hard reset at stylus settings, because that prevents the rom from loading its software if it needs any. i just let it load whatever it wants.
and then try out TAEL
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=561158
or
Energy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=536751
both of these are my personal favorites and run like a charm. with a stock rom, the touch pro is a waste of hardware.
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I agree. The best thing you can do is to try a 6.5 21864 build. Those are stable and energyRoms are fast.
I use my phone for business. I have been using energy ROM's right from the time i got my touch pro.
i started with the roms from monx, after he stopped for a while, i used energyrom for a long time, and tried some other, but always came back to energy.
Well monx posted a couple of weeks ago a new 6.5 rom and i am using that rom, i always liked his roms.
and there is no official htc WM6.5 rom for the touch pro
just try some for yourself is my advice
I started off with RRE's ROMs but moved to Energy ROM's and have been very happy with both. If you stick to the more stable ones vs the beta ROMs then you'll be fine. I'm still running an Energy ROM from August but am finally gonna upgrade to the latest one.
6.5 21864 build. Those are stable and energyRoms are fast.
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I second this and use my phone for business and as GPS device when I'm on the road.
Delphi said:
Hi!
I still have the stock-ROM on my TouchPro. There is a ROM-Update on the
HTC-website from the 2009-08-30. Is it already WM6.5 or just a different
update? If, what is the favorised custom ROM?
actual ROM:
ROM-Version: 1.90.407.4 GER
ROM-Date: 08/23/08
modem: 1.02.25.19
protocoll: 52.33.25.17U
Any help, please? :}
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You should try the Stock ROM update on HTC ( and for the question NO OFFICIAL HTC TOUCH PRO updates have 6.5 they are all 6.1 )
You can flash the TAEL or the ENERGY or the CHROME or the EXQUISITE ROMs they are all very popular and mostly good.
You should just try one of them it just takes 15 to flash a ROM.
Read and follow the steps very carefully.
And remember you can always flash back to HTC STOCKs.
Usually the one on HTC site are more latest than the ones on WIKI.
Enjoy !
But you should have posted this in Raphael Questions and Answers thread not a new thread.
Next time be careful.
I went around flashing roms myself, always landed back on the latest stock rom because it works. I'll list the advantages and disadvantages I stumbled upon from my experiences.
Stock Rom
Advantages
- You know it will work right (for the most part).
- Peace of mind with the ROM
- Still customizable (I was able to install Manila 2.1 and it works very smoothly, the only problem I had was with Tachi dialer, which didn't work 100% on any rom I tried it on either (some bugs, like when I dialed a number it never showed the correct number on the screen, but it did dial the right contact number)).
Disadvantages
- You miss out on a lot of new things like, Manila 2.5, Ezinput 2, etc.
- Lack of support for 6.1 on XDA these days. I'm still having trouble finding 6.1 themes and Manila themes on here. Seems that has died down with the flood of Manila 2.1.
- It's still 6.1.
Cooked Roms
Advantages
- You get all the newest things; WinMo 6.5 + it's uh... more touch friendliness, Manila 2.5, etc.
- Tons of support on XDA these days.
Disadvantages
- Many bugs. Yes it they do work for the most part, but look at any cooked rom thread, and see how many people are posting problems, and look at how many updates are down to fix problems. Which brings me to my next point....
- You get into a flashing frenzy. You end up flashing more than using the roms you flash because of updates, and different rom offers.
- You're never sure what the experience is going to be on your phone till you try, so no real piece of mind. Some roms take a few days to really show that it might not be compatible with you, then you'll end up spending a ton of time finding another rom to try out.
- Never satisfied (ties in with flashing frenzy).
That's how it was for me. I toyed around with the stock Fuze rom, got it working to a point where I like it very much. I got Manila all nice using custimizer and some other mods. But really, I'm always tempted to flash to try out things like 2.5, because I want that Twitter Tab, or I want GPS weather of 2.1 (oh how I wish Tachi dialer just worked perfectly). But in the end I always go back to using the stock rom, because it just works well.
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I went around flashing roms myself, always landed back on the latest stock rom because it works. I'll list the advantages and disadvantages I stumbled upon from my experiences.
Stock Rom
Advantages
- You know it will work right (for the most part).
- Peace of mind with the ROM
- Still customizable (I was able to install Manila 2.1 and it works very smoothly, the only problem I had was with Tachi dialer, which didn't work 100% on any rom I tried it on either (some bugs, like when I dialed a number it never showed the correct number on the screen, but it did dial the right contact number)).
Disadvantages
- You miss out on a lot of new things like, Manila 2.5, Ezinput 2, etc.
- Lack of support for 6.1 on XDA these days. I'm still having trouble finding 6.1 themes and Manila themes on here. Seems that has died down with the flood of Manila 2.1.
- It's still 6.1.
Cooked Roms
Advantages
- You get all the newest things; WinMo 6.5 + it's uh... more touch friendliness, Manila 2.5, etc.
- Tons of support on XDA these days.
Disadvantages
- Many bugs. Yes it they do work for the most part, but look at any cooked rom thread, and see how many people are posting problems, and look at how many updates are down to fix problems. Which brings me to my next point....
- You get into a flashing frenzy. You end up flashing more than using the roms you flash because of updates, and different rom offers.
- You're never sure what the experience is going to be on your phone till you try, so no real piece of mind. Some roms take a few days to really show that it might not be compatible with you, then you'll end up spending a ton of time finding another rom to try out.
- Never satisfied (ties in with flashing frenzy).
That's how it was for me. I toyed around with the stock Fuze rom, got it working to a point where I like it very much. I got Manila all nice using custimizer and some other mods. But really, I'm always tempted to flash to try out things like 2.5, because I want that Twitter Tab, or I want GPS weather of 2.1 (oh how I wish Tachi dialer just worked perfectly). But in the end I always go back to using the stock rom, because it just works well.
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Just a correction
The manila 2.1 or 2.5 DO NOT use GPS to find out weather on the current loaction they use location service which tracks down the area were the tower is located from where your phone is getting signals.
And PLEASE DO NOT say that all Custom ROMs have many bugs You have to chose the right build the right developer and the right ammount of things you do with it.
I can point out so many bugs present in stock ROM and the lack of things you can do.
And we all know that installing CABs for MODs and TWEAKS is nothing close to the performance they give when baked into the ROM.
They eat so much more CPU and Memory when installed separately !
Anyways OP its your choice but you should give it a try atleast
I require my phone for work and have found many of the cooked ROMs far MORE stable than the stock ones. The t-mobile (uk) stock ROM was awful. And I mean truly awful !!!
I use NRG ROMS. Ive not risked the Manilla 2.5 versions as yet (which NRG himself describes as beta !) but his other WM 6.5 are excellent.
I also use SPB mobile shell 3.5 which i think is great. sits over WM 6.5 very nicely and is fully customisable - especially with MSkips extras.
Just to reiterate what some of the other posters have said - the cooks here do a great deal of hard work - if you pick a ROM thats close to the cutting edge you may get bugs (and the chefs will warn you that) - but if you pick some of the more tried and tested branches the cooks have created some ROMs that are extremely stable !
I see.
Is there any (easy) way to make those ROMs german?
Comments on stock ROM and add languages:
Have to agree that most stock ROMs are sluggish and terrible. Even back at the Kaiser days none of the ATT ROMs was able to satisfy me.
Before you select a custom ROM R E A D what people say and what issues they have! Most issues are very specific and may not affect you at all.
Furthermore, for now, I would stay away from 6.5.1 and 6.5.3 ROMs (with the Windows buttons at the bottom). They are kinda beta and the VGA port of Manila 2.5 isn't perfect or good enough for daily use in my opinion. There are stable 6.5 ROMS with Manila 2.1 which can be used and IMHO all of them are faster and more stable as the stock or branded ROMS (I mean HTC or for example ATT modified ROMS).
As far as other languages go, Monx cooked some custom ROMS in the past in Dutch and German though his current ROMS are Manila 2.5 and new WinMo based (see my note above) and nothing for a ROM novice.
Without judgement NRG's 6.5 and Aruppenthals are a good start into custom ROMs, just look for WinMo 6.5 and Manila 2.1 versions.
Did one actually every try to set regional to i.e. German and see what happens? Look around for language packs as well.
List of ROMS I would suggest:
NRG "Photon" but only the 21864 built
Aruppenthals (though based on the newer WinMo version)
Note:
These are my PERSONAL suggestions and do not do any positive or negative justice to ANY other chef out there but in my PERSONAL opinion these are the easiest to handle for a new "flasher".

[Q] Anyone still waiting for the 3.14 ROM??

i think its pathetic that tmobileUK have yet to release the 3.14 Rom
is it worth unlocking the phone so its unbranded? how much? can tmobile do this ? thanks
T-Mobile UK took about 3 months to bring out their version ()1.72) of the 1.66WWE ROM.
I didn't like T-Mobiles modding of the ROMs with thier added guff that I just went with the 1.66WWE ROM.
The only way you can get the 3.14 ROM is to use the GoldCard method.
Still waiting for the O2 3.14 ROM, However the 1.72 ROM is running fine so no real desperation to update, Lets hope they have ironed out all the creases from the first Official Release.
AndyFZ1S said:
Still waiting for the O2 3.14 ROM, However the 1.72 ROM is running fine so no real desperation to update, Lets hope they have ironed out all the creases from the first Official Release.
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I'm in the same boat, and as you say the O2 1.72 ROM runs fine so not in any hurry.
fred_up said:
The only way you can get the 3.14 ROM is to use the GoldCard method.
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Or get HSLP and a new ROM from the ROM development section.
I don't know why anyone would wait for a stock rom where the carrier stuff a bunch of their ****s in there. I mean, that's understandable if you haven't heard of xda-developers, but seriously, I'd just grow a pair of balls and flashed a custom rom and be on my merry way.
I don't think T-Mobile are going to release the 3.14 rom. I posted a question about it on October 11th when it was released by HTC. Since then only Orange have released the update .... funny they are T-Mobile Sister company.
Since then the moderators just keep saying ... we have asked if it will be released by T-mobile and are still waiting on the answer...
I don't blame the moderators but I suspect T-Mobile just don't care.
I don't think this is very professional as effictively have a phone which is within warranty and I can't apply upgrades to try and fix problems. Indeed by branding it they have removed my support from the manufacturer
So just Gold Card your HD2 and play with the multitude of the roms there are.. and when you find one you want to settle on .. donate a few quid to the author.
Honestly the upgrade to 3.14 I would say is essential as I love
1) Cleaner layout
2) Better OFFICE
3) Later versions of the applications .. Love the torch app (silly I know)
I would say all in all a slicker phone now.
Hope this helps
lude219 said:
I don't know why anyone would wait for a stock rom where the carrier stuff a bunch of their ****s in there. I mean, that's understandable if you haven't heard of xda-developers, but seriously, I'd just grow a pair of balls and flashed a custom rom and be on my merry way.
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Guess you guys over that side of the pond have crappy stock roms.
The O2 stock rom is decent and stable, no need to change.
xaccers said:
Guess you guys over that side of the pond have crappy stock roms.
The O2 stock rom is decent and stable, no need to change.
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Thats not a fair comparison...
My first car was stable and worked.. but my newer cars did the same so much nicer and were better to use.
Same with upgrading. The 1.72 stock rom is stable but the features I now have on the upgraded 3.14 rom is nicer.. you would only understand if you used it for a few days.
Each to their own really
TonyOCL said:
Thats not a fair comparison...
My first car was stable and worked.. but my newer cars did the same so much nicer and were better to use.
Same with upgrading. The 1.72 stock rom is stable but the features I now have on the upgraded 3.14 rom is nicer.. you would only understand if you used it for a few days.
Each to their own really
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What I'm saying is that I've no need not to wait for O2 to pull their finger out and give us the new ROM from them.
As soon as they do release it, I will be upgrading.
The stock O2 ROM has no gumph in it from them, other than the blue splash screen (which is a lot nicer than the orange MS splash screen after it! damn you MS, damn you to heck!).
Also by keeping it stock I can better support my clients who use the same phone, after all there have been a fair few threads on "with this rom I can do X but not with this other rom"
Other threads have suggested the modifications done by operators for their phones' roms are quite heavy and annoying. The O2 one is pretty clean, off the top of my head, other than the O2 "get settings" app, I can't think what else they've imposed.
If the ROM was full of gumph that I wanted rid of, then I'd be looking at changing. Lude made that point, why stick with a stock rom that is full of gumph you don't want or need? It's a valid point for roms which are full of gumph, but the O2 one (not that Lude would probably be aware of this, hence why I pointed it out) isn't like that, hence why I've no rush to shoehorn a non-stock 3.14 rom onto it (give it 6 months without a release from O2 and I might consider it).
There's also the issue of compatibility with O2's UMTS900 update they released for the 1.72 and below roms.
O2's 3.14 release should have it built in, probably part of what's taking them longer to release it, whereas I don't know if other 3.14 roms are compatible.
What are the features you've found are improved with the new ROM?
Car analogy
My 3rd car was stable and worked, my 5th and 6th were brand new, but weren't as stable even though they had more features they lacked some too, so since then I've gone back to the same as the 3rd (I have 3 of them, and in total have owned 6 - My name is Xaccers and I'm a Xantia-holic)
Thats not a fair comparison...
My first car was stable and worked.. but my newer cars did the same so much nicer and were better to use.
Same with upgrading. The 1.72 stock rom is stable but the features I now have on the upgraded 3.14 rom is nicer.. you would only understand if you used it for a few days.
Each to their own really.
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Believe it or not Some of us have tried the 3.14 Official ROM but with HSPL it displayed the Wrong amount of RAM etc, Seeing as we have Branded handsets we cannot flash from standard SPL, Apart from the fact there was no cleartype adjustment and you needed to reg fix etc, In other words, If it aint broke, Don't fix it.
Still waiting for 02UK here as well - I'm actually waiting for it so I can try Android without any HSPL nonsense since I will have a compatible radio with the 3.14 ROM.
I've asked 02 multiple times for an eta and they just say they have no information at this time
Imperator Nick said:
Still waiting for 02UK here as well - I'm actually waiting for it so I can try Android without any HSPL nonsense since I will have a compatible radio with the 3.14 ROM.
I've asked 02 multiple times for an eta and they just say they have no information at this time
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That's actually one of the reasons I'm waiting.
Oh why can't they just release a radio update in the meantime
O2 (UK): 3.14.206.1, O2(Germany): 3.14.207.1
Maybe old news (18. Feb 2011) but if you are waiting for Stock O2 (UK): 3.14.206.1, O2(Germany): 3.14.207.1 ROM I just saw that HTC released it for the HD2: http://tinyurl.com/new-O2-ROM-3-14 *
*German HTC Site.
Mirror download link.
In case of; here you have a mirror download link of the; O2 (UK): 3.14.206.1
Have fun.

[Q] I can't decide which Rom to try for my HD2

What is the best Rom for HD2?
Newbie here - to this site anyway - having just bought a HD2. I've had a look through the various Rom sites and the spreadsheet, but I can't decide which Rom to try for my HD2. I need to be up and running pretty quickly but I don't mind a bit of tweaking in my spare time.
I've had WM6.1 for a while on my old PDA and have tweaked it a bit.
As far as I can see I want the most up to date but reliable. Other criteria are fast, relatively lean, appointments/calendar, Outlook (MS Exchange), Internet, Office 2010. I use GPS a lot (have a couple that I've bought for 6.1). No social media - don't use it much.
I like the screen to show time and appointments most importantly and to have easy access to email - I get about 80 per day.
Please be as constructive as possible. Maybe some pros & cons would be helpful.
Many thanks
should've searched...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=640732
Try the Energy Rom, Miri's Rom, Artemis, Dutty's - there are sooo many it's crazy hard to count...
I've been constantly switching between Energy and Dutty, Energy because it's easier to use and setup, looks nicer from the start, and is blazing fast, but Dutty's I find snappier and much better battery life. It's all personal experience... Just wait til you turn into a flash-a-holic like most of us here.
i tried them all and keep trying them all i am a flash addict , on a serious note just try them all until you find one you like
I'd go with this one:
http://hotfile.com/dl/92454692/a2b18ee/Energy.Leo.21916.Sense2.5.Cookie.2.0.sencity.Dec.27.7z.html
taken from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591784
It's a very stable 6.5 ROM with the awesome black and white sencity theme. It is fast and optimized and has everything you want. And it's Cookie 2.0 which means you can modify every aspect of the home screen, including email alerts, calendar, etc...
make sure you have the right radio per this:
If you're a beginner, read on as there's a few things you need to do first.
You need to install a modified "SPL" on your device that allows installation of custom ROMs such as this one. It's called a "Hard SPL" and it's in of these stickies at the top of this forum (not this thread!).
You need to install a compatible "radio" firmware that works with this ROM. The radios that work with this ROM all have ".50" in their name.
If you have a TMobile USA branded device, then you don't need to flash a "radio". The ROM will work just fine with it. However, if you own an asian or european HD2 then you NEED to flash a .50 radio.
I RECOMMEND FLASHING RADIO 2.07.50 or 2.12.50 ! 2.07 can be downloaded here: > CLICK <.
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I tried Energy Room twice on My HD2 and it's look good, I didn't had any problem​
Try latest rom from Dutty.
Duttys_2.5_5.21916.5.0.95_3.14_HD2_ML_Family_ROM_(V12)_WWE
Here is a links : http://fileserve.com/list/RmZpnKD
It's simple and fast.
Is it better than v13? I see that it is available
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=610634
Whatdoyaknow said:
Is it better than v13? I see that it is available
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=610634
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Duttys_2.5_5.23152.5.3.12_3.14_HD2_ML_Family_ROM_(V13a)_WWE.7z is COM3 BUILDS
Duttys_2.5_5.21916.5.0.95_3.14_HD2_ML_Family_ROM_(V12)_WWE.7z is COM2 BUILDS.
If you use GPS software like [Garmin XT],you should go for COM2 BUILD as It's work great and no problem with me.
For COM3 it may have some problem with Garmin XT.
For me the good choice is Duttys_2.5_5.21916.5.0.95_3.14_HD2_ML_Family_ROM_(V12)_WWE.7z is COM2 BUILDS.
COM2 have the start menu on the top left corner.
COM3 have the start menu on the bottom left corner.
I am ususally a stock ROM guy,lately I tryed many custom ROMs,my problem with almost all of them was that they are based on latest HTC 3.14 FW,since I rely mostly on WIFI,and after trying Zillion times,its connection to the WIFI is just unstable.
However for the last couple of days I found this ROM called Clynex,for the first time I am so far happy with the WIFI connection,Its a bare bone ROM,very fast,usually I end up with 110MB of internal storage after installing my usuall applications,now I have 256MB !!.
RAM starts with over 300MB,on stock ROM It is next to impossible to have Opera 10 running and at the same time open the Camera,with this no problem even with few Tabs running.!!
I am using the standard one since ultra doesnt let you customize your themes,if someone wants to try it I suggest that re-install the CHT-EDITOR 1.8.5,-I was having language incompatibility ERROR.
Nice thread to exchange experiances and views.
Thanks for that info. Clynex? Is that CleanEX? If not do you have a link please
Cheers...
Yes that is it, Im using the RV Standard v. 1.01. 6.5
I tryed ultra but switched back to standard 6.5 since I needed the Co0kies 1.8.5 for theme customization.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=875125
I did couple of things:
1-re-installed the the CHT editor 1.8.5(not Cookies just the CHT)
2-installed the marketplace ,you can find the .cab somewhere in this forum.
3-deleted the unnecessary Ringtones.
4-I noticed that most of the Tweaks were already done,but I changed the camera 5MP to 762929 in the registery,this will give you photos of 720p quality.
You can try le last Artemis v48.1.
This is the best artemis ROM at this moment for me
I am using Dutty's family Rom V13a, amazing battery life compared to stock and it has not crashed once since installing. Stock was freezing and crashing all the time.
Re GPS and Com. My presnt PDA is using Com 9 for the GPS.
What is the standard for the HD2?
Cheers...
try duttys ... family .. so far the best..
straight to android
j_zy said:
straight to android
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Thanks for your comment. Why do you recommend it?
Cheers...
shubh.27hd2 said:
try duttys ... family .. so far the best..
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Thanks for your comment. Why do you recommend it?
Cheers...
Me too, i will recommend Dutty's ROM
why i like it:
it's fast
it's looks like an original ROM
easy to flash
and it's very stable

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