Hi all, I've never bricked my vibrant, seen so many horror stories and today it seems the "fully operational" rom I flashed has screwed me over big time. So i've seen the "odin back to stock" suggestion many times, but what exactly is stock now, JI6? so it wouldn't be ok to go to stock 2.2 since it's official now? Can someone point me to the most helpful walkthrough you specifically have ever used? Thanks guys.
Edit: This is where I'm at:
Came from Trigger, disabled voodoo, booted into rfs. Rebooted into rfs. Rebooted into recovery, flashed explodingboys ROM, flashed fine. Had 0 application storage upon boot/sd wiped. Never used dead horse previously (probably never will again). Now I can mount my phone and load stuff onto my sd, and even flash things. tried flashing a voodoo kernel and it failed upon converting, linda even said "not enough space" got stuck on boot splash. Got back into recovery and flashed this cursed ROM again and it did get my phone on again, so at least I got something, but i cant install any apps, roms, and not really sure what kernel if any would help me.
If you have flashed 2.2 roms and you can get into recovery then, this will work for you:
You will need:
Odin 1.7 or higher
Pit512 file for mapping
JFD file (stock 2.1)
Eugenes Froyo that does not brick
Of course the Samsung drivers in the computer
PLEASE READ S15274N Sticky for Noobs in the Gen section it has all the methods better explained for you.
1. Download Eugenes 'Froyo that does not brick' file.
2. Extract the files.
3. Open Odin, plug in your phone, then put it into download mode.
4. load the PIT file in appropriate area.
5. load the .tar file in the PDA area.
6. DO NOT check 're-partition'.
7. Click start, let it finish. Your phone will load and reboot into stock recovery. It will error out again. DONT panic! This is what's supposed to happen.
8. Now, pull your battery.
9. Load the JFD rom for the vibrant'.
10. Extract the files.
11. Once again, open Odin, plug in your phone, put into download mode.
12. Load the PIT file into the appropriate area and the .tar in the PDA area.
13. THIS TIME you want to check the 're-partition' box.
14. Now click start, let it finish, and this time your phone will load up just fine!
15. Then, root the phone and you can flash your new Rom.
doing this method will everything back to normal and the phone will work just like it did right out of the box
hope that helps
Thanks very much man, I'll try this out tomorrow, I think its just too late and i'm too frustrated. Sometimes you just gotta go to bed. Thanks again!
Everything you need to do you can do with this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=954509
I believe in you, I just bricked MY FRIENDS vibrant and fixed it after about 6 hrs of work. Save yourself the time and get the right drivers for odin and just use that. Good night, and good luck.
I've always wanted to say that
Can anyone point me in the direction of a place that would have links / downloads to all the up to date filess as far as drivers go? don't want to use anything outdated..
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Disclaimer: Ive searched and searched through the forums and archives and Ive hit a brick wall.
Ive read Vibrants are nearly impossible to brick, which is awesome, however I dont think thats the case here. I had originally went from my JI6 OTA update to Obsidian 4.2. and I wanted to try a new ROM. I remembered reading its a good idea to flash back to stock between ROM flashes, so thats what I was attempting to do. Well I just got a new computer, and reinstalled everything, but didnt even think to do the stuff for my phone for whatever reason, so I was without ODIN, the drivers, and my backups.
So I got to a point where I was going to just try it with ROM Manager. When I clicked the option to "Boot Into Recovery Mode/CWR", it went to the first boot screen (the one that says vibrant and samsung) and wouldnt do anything else. So I reflashed the firmware (the 513.pit) and it came back on (this happened a few times actually, but hey we learn from our mistakes, lol).
I recently reinstalled ODIN also, and I guess I used to have v1.3 and this was v1.7, and for some reason re-partition was pre-checked, and when I unchecked it, and hit start to reinstall the firmware, it checked itself, and it was to late, I didnt want to unplug it. After this it wouldnt do anything, but I managed to get it back into DL mode, and Im pretty sure I need to re-flash the stock software, so I found it, downloaded it, unzipped it and whenever I click the "PDA" button, the files 'kernal update, META-INF, and system' all show up, but its just the folders, no files.
Also, I did have the OCLF on there, but once I reflashed the firmware, and the phone booted back up the ext2 files were no longer installed, as it didnt give me the option to uninstall them, only to install them
So here I am now, with a phone that I can barely get into DL mode, and I cant get any ROM to come up in ODIN. Its always just the folders, no files.
Thanks in advance
If you dont feel like reading all that, heres the cliffs:
Phone went from 2.1/JI6 to Obsidian 4.2/JK2 with OCLF
Backups are gone
Accidentally re-partioned phone with ODIN while reinstalling firmware
Regardless of the ROM, only the folders show up, no actual files for the ROM.
Phone wont turn back on, right now.
Need help
Edit: Odin installs the pit file fine, the phone just wont boot. I guess if nothing else, I need to either know how to get the files to show up in the folder, or something. And before anyone mentions doing anything with adb, I have spent countless hours trying to get it to install and it never recognized the JDK and wants me to DL netbean, so thats kind of not a option right now
From what I can tell, you tried to load a ROM and it didn't take, then you tried ODIN and it didn't take.
I'm not 100% sure from your description of the exact steps you've taken. But you've only mentioned the 512.pit file for ODIN. There should also be an associated .tar file that you'll include in the PDA section. I'll see if I can find some detailed instructions on using ODIN and will edit my post once I find it.
EDIT: You can follow the instructions in this posting. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734475
EDIT2: The JI6 ROM you can get there (in .rar format) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8511186#post8511186
EDIT3: Youtube video showing the .pit and .tar files in ODIN. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnY7P14JSWQ
Also, you can use any recent version of the stock files as long as they are .tar files. Some files (like in my second Edit) are compressed as .rar files, which will need to be uncompressed into a .tar file before you can use it with ODIN. I think WinRar, 7-Zip, PeaZip, and other tools will extract .rar files.
Most of the ROMs you'll find here on the forum are meant to be flashed through recovery, not through Odin. If you unzip a ROM and it has the META-INF, system, etc then it is meant to be flashed through recovery.
You need an Odin-flashable ROM. Get it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734475
Then:
1. Open Odin
2. Select the .tar and .pit files from the above download
3. Make sure "Re-partition" is checked Use this only if you are flashing UVJFD from the link above
4. Plug in phone in Download mode
5. Flash it.
Thanks guys, its got JFD on there through ODIN and repartioned it, and were back to the goofy grass wall paper and the haptic feedback being turned all the way up!
I recently recovered my phone through ODIN and then upgraded to JI6 through Kies.....I wanted to re-root the phone and get it back to where it was before, but I'm having problems. I loaded the root file and put the update.zip in the root (not the avatar folder) and tried to update packages through recovery. I get an error message that says e:can't open /sdcard/update.zip no such file or directory. I checked the file type in both drives (avatar is on e: and everything else on g, the avatar folder shows a FAT file type, but the g: drive shows an unknown file type. I had received information to try a different update.zip file, but it won't change the error message I get when select update packages in recovery. What can I do? I've searched a lot of posts (and I risk a flaming on this one, I know), but I can't seem to find one that seems to follow my trail of getting to where I am at today. One last thing, when I was recovering through ODIN, i did not select repartition because i could not get the 512 pit file to populate in ODIN. Thanks to anybody who can help me (again).....
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I recently recovered my phone through ODIN and then upgraded to JI6 through Kies.....I wanted to re-root the phone and get it back to where it was before, but I'm having problems. I loaded the root file and put the update.zip in the root (not the avatar folder) and tried to update packages through recovery. I get an error message that says e:can't open /sdcard/update.zip no such file or directory. I checked the file type in both drives (avatar is on e: and everything else on g, the avatar folder shows a FAT file type, but the g: drive shows an unknown file type. I had received information to try a different update.zip file, but it won't change the error message I get when select update packages in recovery. What can I do? I've searched a lot of posts (and I risk a flaming on this one, I know), but I can't seem to find one that seems to follow my trail of getting to where I am at today. One last thing, when I was recovering through ODIN, i did not select repartition because i could not get the 512 pit file to populate in ODIN. Thanks to anybody who can help me (again).....
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are you SURE you are putting update.zip on the right sd card....it goes on the INTERNAL CARD ( the 16gb one )...
I'm pretty sure I am, this is the one where all of the apps and apk were stored previously?
ok then start over...
odin back to stock and re-root
ok, ODIN back to stock. No change for the update.zip. This time when I flashed I added the pit file, and also checked repartition. No change in anything regarding the message or anything from before. I have tried tyhe update before and after I went from JFD to JI6. I really have no basis to speak from, but it seems that the path from my e drive (avatar) to g drive (everything else), is where the problem is, or else I got a bad flash. They all look the same though. I assume I would need root to get anywhere other than JI6 anyway. Thanks again for your help with this. I do appreciate it.....
gtiryan said:
ok, ODIN back to stock. No change for the update.zip. This time when I flashed I added the pit file, and also checked repartition. No change in anything regarding the message or anything from before. I have tried tyhe update before and after I went from JFD to JI6. I really have no basis to speak from, but it seems that the path from my e drive (avatar) to g drive (everything else), is where the problem is, or else I got a bad flash. They all look the same though. I assume I would need root to get anywhere other than JI6 anyway. Thanks again for your help with this. I do appreciate it.....
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1. when you Odin you are supposed to load both pit and tar files and not check repartition...
2.read that...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=849028
3. are you trying to go to a stock JI6 ROM?? If so...why??
My suggestion:
Click on the Noob Guide (signature)
Download files
Load ODIN
Get phone in download mode
follow my instructions in the guide
You will then have a stock froyo leak + root
at that point I would backup, then flash something, maybe NeroV3 and then enable voodoo (if you like).
I don't see how the alt method could lead you wrong.
I apologize, I sincerely didn't notice anything that mentioned not to partition. Going forward, if I reflash through odin with the right pit and tar files WITHOUT checking partition, do you think I should be ok? As a note (if it even matters), all of my files and things were still in the internal sd card, although the new market is there from my old 2.1 rom. Not sure if it matters, just more information.
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I apologize, I sincerely didn't notice anything that mentioned not to partition. Going forward, if I reflash through odin with the right pit and tar files WITHOUT checking partition, do you think I should be ok? As a note (if it even matters), all of my files and things were still in the internal sd card, although the new market is there from my old 2.1 rom. Not sure if it matters, just more information.
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just follow s15274n's guide...he wrote a nice guide for noobs (no offense)...it'll walk u through going back to stock and you'll be ok...
Excellent information, but one question since I'm still learning. Not in the way I had hoped, but trial-by-fire.....If I download the leaked froyo with root, don't I need root access first. Also if I can flash this through ODIN, where does the update file go in the ODIN screen, do I need the 512 pit file, what about the pda, phone csc windows, what do i poopulate in those options, if any. I do bow to your experience and knowledge. I promise once I get back to where I was before I may never do this again! All this from trying to flash a new kernal that was supposed to be compatible with all bionix platforms (I was running 1.9 w/jac's ocuv). Thanks again....
gtiryan said:
Excellent information, but one question since I'm still learning. Not in the way I had hoped, but trial-by-fire.....If I download the leaked froyo with root, don't I need root access first. Also if I can flash this through ODIN, where does the update file go in the ODIN screen, do I need the 512 pit file, what about the pda, phone csc windows, what do i poopulate in those options, if any. I do bow to your experience and knowledge. I promise once I get back to where I was before I may never do this again! All this from trying to flash a new kernal that was supposed to be compatible with all bionix platforms (I was running 1.9 w/jac's ocuv). Thanks again....
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ok in Odin....as long as the phone is in Download mode...Odin has root access to the phone(technically) so just make sure you're in download mode...
Odin needs 2 files to flash a VIBRANT to stock...the pit and tar files...load the pit file in the PIT field and the tar goes in the PDA field..( i know its tricky) dont mess with any other settings...click start and WAIT
Odin is a flasher's best friend....learn to use it and you'll love it
In process now. I do like ODIN although yesterday afternoon, I would have rather taken a sharp instrument to the neck rather than use it. I preferred to use ROM manager or other methods. I know it means nothing to you guys that have experience, but this is a learning experience and one I am grateful for with all of the experience on these forums. I know you devs don't like these dumb questions, but sometimes kids just want to be professional football players but end up working in a supermarket instead....get back to you soon.
it said updating firmware then it's sitting on cache.rfs for about 5 minutes. no green loading symbol like when I flashed before. Not sure if I should unplug and retry....
waited about 20 minutes with it stuck at the cache.rfs line. Unplugged and retried. Same thing. I need to get a working phone at least for tonight. I tried one more time, but check repartition and it started loading completely. Maybe there's something wrong with one of the files? Not sure. Will update when I get home to my laptop.....
Use this version of ODIN (older versions are known to hang)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8863820&postcount=138
The files you need to get the leaked froyo + root: CLICK HERE TO DOWNLOAD
(IGNORE THE OLD OLDN VERSION IN THIS .ZIP - USE THE ONE I POSTED ABOVE)
1 - download the files to your pc
2 - open ODIN on your pc
3 - connect USB to pc (not to the phone)
4 - power off phone
5 - go into download mode (hold both volume keys... then insert usb to the phone)
6 - ODIN should be connected, and you should be in download mode
7 - load pit file
8 - load tar file
9 - click start
10 - it will run it's course, once done the phone will reboot
11 - once rebooted, go to stock recovery and wipe data/cache (I made this bold below for emphasis since not in the video)
I gotta hand it you guys, you really bailed me out and for that I am eternally grateful. I will have to scrape the funds together for whomever needs a donation, but it is well worth it. I have one last remaining question. Now that I have Eugene's Rom, am I safe to flash another ROM by update.zip, or is ODIN the only reliable way for me to get one on the phone. I like the phone better now, but it seems like it is an out of the box ROM, which is fine. I didn't mind bionix 1.9 on 2.1 either. I just made a big mistake. Anyways, thanks again, and whomever can answer my last question I will extend my thanks in advance!!
Download rom manager
Flash cwr
Make backup in cwr
D nownload nero v3
Flash it in cwr
Enable voodoo if you desires
Enjoy your much improved phone that has a stable backup for an emergency.
I you need detailedsteps for this, read my sticky threads.
I dowloaded ROM manager last night and flashed recovery. I went to recovery and applied packages. I'm still getting this error that says the update.zip file is invalid through my e: drive (avatar folder). I just looked on both e and f. I can't seem to find any update.zip file on either card and I can't seem to flash any other ROM or even enter CW recovery. I looked at another post from someone and noticed that I never pulled my external sd card when I used ODIN to go back to stock or flash Eugene's ROM that I was suggested to use. Any formats I could try or tricks to suggest. I've looked around, but I'm not sure if this is a partition issue, an sd card (internal or external), or otherwise. Thanks again....
i noticed that there were a lot of additional file in places i didn't notice originally. I found in the CW file a recover-update and I thought that might be confusing things, I put it in a seperate folder and retried cw recovery, but that didn't work.
Hi I'm a new member,
I rooted my fascinate easily enough. Then searching and learning about ROMs and Kernels I decided to do use ODIN CWM Recovery to 'backup' or whatever most forums tell you to before installing a new ROM. Point is my phone is stuck in manual boot mode and I cannot undo it.
I have tried multiple times using ODIN plus the four stock files
Stock-i500-VZW-Kernel.tar.md5
Stock-i500-VZW-pit.pit
Stock-i500-VZW-Recovery.tar.md5
Stock-i500-VZW-System.tar.md5
(I always would try to implement them in order pit/system, pit/kernel, pit/recovery)
Unfortunately after the first one (pit/system) ODIN says the process fails, I go ahead with the other two and they both amount to nothing happening. My phone does not reset or do anything for this matter and I am forced to shut down ODIN and unplug my phone (upon which it dies with no battery).
Then I put back in the battery and Im back to before in manual boot mode with
Reboot system Now
Apply sdcard:update.zip
wipe data/factory rset
wipe cache partition
Btw wiped data and wiped cache and it didn't help me =(.
Please someone help me, I really don't want this new phone to be dead... Thanks in advance
Oh and when I press "apply sdcard:update.zip" I receive
E:Can't mount \dev\block\vold\179:9
(No such file or directory)
E:Can't mount SDCARD:update.zip
Installation aborted.
I really don't care at all about keeping the phone rooted or not or whatever. I just want to be able to make calls again!
So it looks like you're stuck in blue recovery ... sounds like something that Odining a stock package should fix.
Here is a nice thread for getting back to stock (it's a sticky in the general section). The packages include system, recovery, kernel, and radio in a single file (I've actually never odin'd four separate files to get back to stock, or even ever flashed a system-only file), though no pit file.
So open up odin with your phone in download mode (with the battery out, otherwise there's a small chance of odin stalling at the end), and use:
- either the DI01 all-in-one, EB01 all-in-one, or this DL09 package in PDA
- the pit file in PIT (the link says DI01/EB01 but it also works with DL09)
- check "re-partition" if it isn't already checked
- run odin and hopefully in five minutes your phone will work again If for some reason it doesn't, that thread has instructions for using heimdall, although I've never had to resort to it.
So try this and see if it works! (For which package to use, I'd suggest trying DL09 first (since you'll need it to get to the official froyo build) and DI01 if that fails. If you're wondering whether DL09+pit actually works, I've used it to get out of a "stuck in blue recovery after odining stuff" situation myself so yes, it works.)
Thank you for the response! It's encouraging to hear any support and I think yours is promising.
So unfortunately I tried D101 and no go. Turns out this was before I realized this was for 2.1 and I'd prefer 2.2 for the upgrades. Although would you suggest 2.1 for the purpose of rooting/ROMing/Kerneling in the future? I ask because I'm slowly gaining confidence that after fixing this I might be willing to try this again...
Odin (1.7 -> I decided at your poster friend's advice to upgrade from 1.3) worked well said 'pass' and everything. Unfortunately when booting my phone it went straight to the boot screen as always.
Meanwhile I'm downloading the EB01 and your suggested DL09 to test those two.
Hopefully one of those will work but if not, I guess I'll try that heimdall technique the poster suggested in the other forum. Hopefully not tho b/c it looks a bit more complicated.
I'll let ya know if one of these others works.
Yes it worked!! Thank you so much! I would buy you a round at the ale house if I could!
After running EB01 it worked (with the pit file going all the way back to factory settings). So I'm not sure what this means - maybe since it was after upgrading to 2.2 that my phone bugged out, it could only be restored to the 2.2 state which is EB01?? Idk, thanks anways.
Oh ya for the future if I try do this again - would you suggest I stay away from ROM Manager for backing up, which I believe is what started this problem in the first place? It seemed like ODIN did a fine job of managing my OS. Any thoughts? Thankss!!
mattjac1 said:
Yes it worked!! Thank you so much! I would buy you a round at the ale house if I could!
After running EB01 it worked (with the pit file going all the way back to factory settings). So I'm not sure what this means - maybe since it was after upgrading to 2.2 that my phone bugged out, it could only be restored to the 2.2 state which is EB01?? Idk, thanks anways.
Oh ya for the future if I try do this again - would you suggest I stay away from ROM Manager for backing up, which I believe is what started this problem in the first place? It seemed like ODIN did a fine job of managing my OS. Any thoughts? Thankss!!
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Definately stay away from rom manager cwm if you have the voodoo lagfix enabled, but since all the new fascinate roms are edify scripted, flashing through cwm in rom manager would be ok.
Sent from my Froyo'd Evil Fascinate full of PB&J
Trying to flash to stock via Odin. Odin completes without errors and reboots the phone. The phone, though, shuts off after the inital splash screen ("Vibrant" at the top "samsung" at the bottom").
Since multiupload/megaupload was taken down, I'm unable to find any Odin-flashable stock roms/any kind of roms. I followed steps 2-4 on [I can't post a link, but it was on rootzwiki] and ended up with this.
Does anyone have any ideas? I've been searching for a solution for the past 3-4 hours.
Go to the Dev section and download tha AIO Toolbox (Stickied at the top). It has the Odin v1.8 (I think), all the drivers and pit/tar files that you need to get back to stock 2.1 and then you can download CWR from my signature, find a ROM.zip that you want to install and put them on your Internal SD card.
Make sure you put the ROM in a folder and also make sure that the CWR that you get from my sig is on your internal and is the only thing on it labeled Update.zip. Once those are done, boot into recovery, scroll down to "Reinstall PAckages" and hit it. Let it cycle through and you might have to do it again. Once it cycles through your recovery will go from Blue (stock) to Green (CWR) from there, you can flash your ROM and profit. [If you are going to an ICS flavor, you may have to be on GB bootloaders and flash CM7 as an intermitant step. I suggest trying Moped_Ryder's ROM and Fishman's Bionix Mod-both 2.2 but quality and everything works.]
The toolbox is a valuable thing and you can do many things with it, but mainly and most importantly, it HAS the files to get you back to TMo 2.1. (I use it all the time and I am not even a TMo customer).
Just flashed via the AIO toolbox, still same behavior.
Can't even get into the recovery screen.
What ROM are you coming from? If 2.3 or higher you have to tick repartition.
Just keep trying. I've seen posts where it takes many times for it to pass and boot up for some reason. Not sure why it does this sometimes.
I'll check on you later. My tablet got another update today, so I'll be troubleshooting over there later on.
I'm coming from ICS Passion v4 (I think, it's been a long whiles since I flashed it)
Just reflashed 7 times to no avail :/
Thank you for taking the time to help, it's really appreciated..
Hah! Unbricked!
Followed this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=817186
Used eugene's odin image from: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833024&page=49
I have a new stock Gingerbread Fascinate, and want to install the Geewiz Media 4.4/JB 4.2.2 ROM/Kernel on it (making it an ipod-like device). I really really hate having to ask, especially after spending the past week reading a couple of hundred pages of posts, including the dev's, droidstyle's guide, and others, learning as much as I can. I have rooted a Motorola Droid 2 before, but this is all new, and I am still unsure.
So Geewiz comes as Edify .zip files or Odin-compatible .tar files. Based on the dev's provided information, I choose to start with the Odin-compatible .tar file named "GeeWiz Media 4.4 ROM/Kernel/Modem/Recovery/Data Wipe Full Update". As I understand it this is includes everything I need to start: a rooted JB OS with modified EH03 kernel, plus CWM, data folders reformatted to ext4, and an EH03 recovery. I need to start on stock EH03, which I already am.
I have plenty of threads saved (& many printed), so I don't need help with the button-pushing. My confusion stems from the different file types (tar vs. zip) and software (Odin and Clockwork), and what I am supposed to do in what order.
So my questions:
1. Does the .tar file to be installed by Odin go on my SD card or stay on my computer?
2. Since the .tar contains everything at once, what process do I follow after installing it? (Reboot into recovery, download mode, etc.)
3. Should I expect a CWM .zip file on my SD card after installing the tar?
I seems like I should have been able to figure this out on my own, but the dev thread doesn't get into the basics, and I haven't found explicit instructions for the all-in-one Geewiz ROM, or other instructions that I am comfortably sure are completely relevant.
Thank you.
I'm by no means an expert, but I've flashed a lot of roms including Geewiz before so I'll try to help you out.
1) Odin pushes files to your device from the computer, so there's no need to have anything saved on your phone
2) Once everything completes simply reboot the phone and you should be good to go
3) I'm not sure, but I don't think so. I'm pretty sure Geewiz has it's own recovery included with the rom and there will be no need to separately install CWM recovery
If anything goes wrong, simply follow droidstyle's guide to go back to stock and start over again. The Fascinate is extremely hard to break (luckily).
Thank you, Crawshayi! :fingers-crossed:
Wow, after all that worry, it was a piece of cake. If its any use to someone, I installed with Odin, following this procedure:
1. Remove battery
2. Fire up Odin (I used 1.85)
3. Plug in the factory USB cable and hold the volume down button
4. Wait for download mode and yellow box in Odin
5. Put my Geewiz full-wipe / kernel / recovery .tar file in Odin's PDA box
6. Hit start.
7. Wait till Odin box turns green and says pass
8. Reboot phone. (I wasn't sure about clicking the "Auto-Reboot" box. Some say yes and some say no, in my readings. I clicked it, but it didn't auto reboot anyway. I also had "F. Reset Time" checked as instructed.
9. First there was a brief message about wiping phone & ext4. Then, a pretty long wait time, watching a big colored "X". Just when I was starting to worry a little bit, a message from Google popped up and I was "in".
This is the first time I've ever looked at Jelly Bean. It's beautiful and really different from Gingerbread (which is my only exposure to Android since moving from Blackberry)
Yeah Jelly Bean is really great, Google hit a home run with that one and we're lucky enough to have a lot of good Jelly Bean roms to choose from on the Fascinate