Damn: Samsung Infuse vs Galaxy S II.. What to do?! - Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

To me dual core seems to be the deal breaker.
After spending a lot of time with the Atrix, not sure its the dealbreaker I once thought.

rockky said:
To me dual core seems to be the deal breaker.
After spending a lot of time with the Atrix, not sure its the dealbreaker I once thought.
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The atrix just sucks period, the sgs2 will be a lot better in every way.

I'm actually weighing HTC Infuse vs Galaxy

there is no such thing as an HTC infuse, there is a samsung infuse tho with 4.5" screen, is that the one ur referring to?

Crap...exactly. My bad.

The Infuse is basically a Captivate with a 4.5" screen. If screen size is more important to you, then go for it. I would rather have the SGS 2 though.

SGS2 all the way for me....
eagerly waiting for the AWS frequency model

u should edit the tittle infuse 4g vs galaxy s II

I haven't heard anything about the infuse since CES. I don't know if it is even still alive.
From the hands-on impressions I read, the infuse seems to have a nicer build quality. If the price is right and the release date is sooner than the SGS2, it looks like a good alternative for people who want the SuperAMOLED Plus display.

I'm pretty sold. Are the processors the same?..anyone know offhand?

What are you talking about? You said you didn't care about dual-core...

I'm pretty sold on the Infuse. I don't really KNOW the extent that dual core makes a difference with these mobile devices. Speed wise, I wasn't impressed with the Atrix.
If dual core allows me to switch effortlessly between two different roms it'd be worth it.
So I'm also really intrigued by the Sams GAL2. No doubt.
These and the LG 3D that loom as state of the art 2011.
Right now I'm contrasting Infuse and GalS2.

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I'm pretty sold on the Infuse. I don't really KNOW the extent that dual core makes a difference with these mobile devices. Speed wise, I wasn't impressed with the Atrix.
If dual core allows me to switch effortlessly between two different roms it'd be worth it.
So I'm also really intrigued by the Sams GAL2. No doubt.
These and the LG 3D that loom as state of the art 2011.
Right now I'm contrasting Infuse and GalS2.
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To be honest I had the same thoughts when I bought my Motorola Milestone. Now, a year later, it is just sloooow. I do have a lot running in the background but I can't do without it. As time passes, more and more apps get optimized for dual-core. Also games become heavier and heavier. I am going to sell my Milestone and get a SGSII

The biggest benefit of having dual core is load balancing and on-the-fly clock speed/voltage adjustment. It all adds up to better battery life and smoother transitions between applications. Benchmark scores will remain almost unchanged however.

You're gonna trade .2"... for last years phone?
What?!

If I recall, the CES stated that the Infuse 4G would be running on a 1.2 ghz Hummingbird processor.

Carne_Asada_Fries said:
If I recall, the CES stated that the Infuse 4G would be running on a 1.2 ghz Hummingbird processor.
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This is correct.
Both will sport Super AMOLED+ screens. 4.5" on the Infuse and 4.3" on the SGSII.

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You're gonna trade .2"... for last years phone?
What?!
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The Inspire was just released and has last-gen guts in it. Still a great phone for the price ($399 off-contract). If the Infuse has a decent price, it is a good option for those who don't care about dual-core or NFC. The dual-core jump seems to have less of an impact than say, when Android jumped from the 600mhz Droid to the 1Ghz behemoths, at least for smartphone speed and usability anyway. That .2" can make a difference (like the iPhone vs the Nexus One) and the anorexic and more plasticky build (comparably) of the SGS2 may be a concern. At least there won't be any surprises with Hummingbird whereas Exynos is still a mystery right now. I just hope they both have the same stellar 1080p capture.

I heard that samsung changed the infuse from 4.5 to 4.3.

Your s***ting me....where'd you get that?
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I heard that samsung changed the infuse from 4.5 to 4.3.
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[Q] Galaxy S II, Evo 3D or Optimus 3D?

Hey everyone, currently i have HTC desire and i'm about to buy a new phone... Which phone should i get? Galaxy S II,evo 3d or optimus 3d? The most thing i care about is the hardware,which phone is faster and of course updates... I've heard that galaxy s2 and optimus 3d are both great phones, but i need to pick the right one as i wont be buying another phone for a few months One thing i dont like about the galaxy s tho, is the 3 buttons. The standard buttons for an android phone are 4, right? dunno if that will lead to any probs in some apps? anyways, hope you guys can help me out to pick the right phone
Well the only button you're missing is search. And unless you search a lot, then it's pretty much more of nuisance than a function.
For the evo 3d/optimus, do you need 3d? Do your eyes hurt when viewing 3d? Are you willing to pay the extra buck just for 3d? Do you even want 3d videos or pictures? Those are questions you have to ask yourself.
Now obviously in terms of regular screen use to the average consumer, the galaxy s 2 comes 1st with it's top notch super amoled plus display. It also has size in it's favour also, with being extra thing to very light. CPU? Well i'm in favour of samsung's exynos being the best right now. Nothing really to back it up right now however, but it's better than tegra 2 at the very least. Also if you're a media hog, the galaxy s 2 is your device.
However you're not really going to get the best answers here due to the fact that you're asking in a sgs 2 forum, which naturally, should be populated by users who favour the sgs 2.
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Well the only button you're missing is search. And unless you search a lot, then it's pretty much more of nuisance than a function.
For the evo 3d/optimus, do you need 3d? Do your eyes hurt when viewing 3d? Are you willing to pay the extra buck just for 3d? Do you even want 3d videos or pictures? Those are questions you have to ask yourself.
Now obviously in terms of regular screen use to the average consumer, the galaxy s 2 comes 1st with it's top notch super amoled plus display. It also has size in it's favour also, with being extra thing to very light. CPU? Well i'm in favour of samsung's exynos being the best right now. Nothing really to back it up right now however, but it's better than tegra 2 at the very least. Also if you're a media hog, the galaxy s 2 is your device.
However you're not really going to get the best answers here due to the fact that you're asking in a sgs 2 forum, which naturally, should be populated by users who favour the sgs 2.
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Hmm great answer bud, and no, I'm really not that much into 3d. I'm really considering to buy this phone when it comes out, i just hope they will care enough to update their software when a new android version is out. Another reason too buy this phone is that, here in norway we will get the Exynos version that is running at 1,2 GHz.
Put 3D, AMOLED and CPU aside, i'll still favour SGSII over an HTC/LG phone because of its superior camera and audio quality.
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However you're not really going to get the best answers here due to the fact that you're asking in a sgs 2 forum, which naturally, should be populated by users who favour the sgs 2.
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This is so true.
btw does anyone know how many multitouch it supports?
i remember the screen of the original SGS can handle 16 points simultaneously so i expect SGSII will be as good as that at least. any screen that can track more than 2 touches accurately is good compare to my HTC Desire lol
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i remember the screen of the original SGS can handle 16 points simultaneously so i expect SGSII will be as good as that at least. any screen that can track more than 2 touches accurately is good compare to my HTC Desire lol
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haha that's right, i can't stand the multitouch on my desire. But 16 points simultaneously :O thats awesome
I'm also on the HTC desire, and the memory issues have forced me to set A2SD (SLOW) in order to make the phone useable.
IMHO, the fact that the original galaxy s has a GPU that still outperforms anything out there ATM is a key indicator of the sheer power we should await with the sII's quad-core mali 400
As for the evo, the processor still relies on an A8 cortex, while the SII uses an A9... plus Super Amoled Plus is VERY key
Just putting it out there. The A9 holds no advantages over A8 that are being used in any of the phones they have been produced in (DDR3 ram isn't being used in any phones are they?). So it is irrelevant right now to say a phone is better since it has a A9 core.
I'm going for the Galaxy S 2. Amazing g camera, I love the build quality, I like the slim design, and the speed will be awesome.
They're all great phones but I don't really need aa 3D display, nor do I want one. I life in a 3D world, I don't want my movies to be in 3D, it takes away from the experience.
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TheSobadef said:
IMHO, the fact that the original galaxy s has a GPU that still outperforms anything out there ATM is a key indicator of the sheer power we should await with the sII's quad-core mali 400
As for the evo, the processor still relies on an A8 cortex, while the SII uses an A9... plus Super Amoled Plus is VERY key
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Can't agree more... I'm using a SE Xperia arc atm which is considered (with its "Bravia engine" label) to have one of the best non Super amoled screen from many reviewers and man... it is still a big piece of crap omg I forgot how to watch that type of screens after spending 6 month with my Galaxy S
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haha that's right, i can't stand the multitouch on my desire. But 16 points simultaneously :O thats awesome
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The Desire and Nexus One were the last devices HTC put that pathetic touch screen on. The latest thing I heard HTC used was the Maxtouch, which supposedly supports "unlimited" (probably 10-16) touches.
Even so, I still would get the SGSII. It just seems amazing.
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Can't agree more... I'm using a SE Xperia arc atm which is considered (with its "Bravia engine" label) to have one of the best non Super amoled screen from many reviewers and man... it is still a big piece of crap omg I forgot how to watch that type of screens after spending 6 month with my Galaxy S
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HTC launches 5 phones to beat the competition and Samsung release one phone....like Samsung Galaxy s was most selling Android Device ever...mean while HTC release a new phone every month like crazy....lol....LG has some good android phones but none can beat galaxy S series..so forget about Galaxy S2....I use galaxy S and I am telling you i cannot live without SAMOLED screen...just imagine advance version of that...
Even in this comparison between HTC sensation and SGS 2,......I think Samsung beat HTC again......Even tho I dont know how good TouchWiz 4.0 will be...But still it will be better then HTC sense...And I am hoping it will be easy to root and Custom Rommed as Current galaxy S series...Looking forward to buy this phone...
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Just putting it out there. The A9 holds no advantages over A8 that are being used in any of the phones they have been produced in (DDR3 ram isn't being used in any phones are they?). So it is irrelevant right now to say a phone is better since it has a A9 core.
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A9 features out of order processing so runs faster in bottle necks - also over clocks better
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A9 features out of order processing so runs faster in bottle necks - also over clocks better
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what do you mean with overclock better? does it run at lower voltage than a typical a8 then?
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what do you mean with overclock better? does it run at lower voltage than a typical a8 then?
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I'm assuming (and correct me if I'm wrong) that the chips are able to handle being overclocked better than others. THey might not generate as much heat; if they do however, they would be more stable than other.
Similar to the chip in the Inspire and G2 OC'ing to 1.5 and being stable.
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I'm assuming (and correct me if I'm wrong) that the chips are able to handle being overclocked better than others. THey might not generate as much heat; if they do however, they would be more stable than other.
Similar to the chip in the Inspire and G2 OC'ing to 1.5 and being stable.
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well, i dont know aswell, if the chip is based on smaller nm scale then yeah that would probably make a bit more sense as it would require less voltage, but i have no information about the chip differences right now.
Just a waiting game until the device is out.
If OC'ing this device does actually occur (which it eventually would), then I wonder the affect it would have on the battery. Although, I think having Dual Core 1.2Ghz is quite sufficient at the moment.
I guess there will be diffrent profiles so you can change clock and volt.
So it takes less power on standby .
On my Noka N900 i have a widget so i can change overclock in seconds.
950mhz when surfing and when i need to save batteri i choise another profile ..
C'mon this thing is a savage beast ! I would rather think of Underclocking it ! Exynos Dual core at 1Ghz should be sufficient to do EVERYTHING you can do on an android smartphone and that includes the most demanding games and every task you can imagine, I mean just watch all the vids of those prototypes runnig buttery smooth and they're all running at 1Ghz
OMG I can't wait this is so epic

Which Phone to get??

Alright i have a Samsung Galaxy S and will be upgrading to a new device but torn between so many phones. I'm with Bell Canada and so far my choices are as follows:
HTC Raider LTE
Samsung Galaxy S II 4G
Google Galaxy Nexus
LG Optimus LTE
Each phone has its flaws:
Raider
preformed slow in benchmark test vs SGSII
Crappy Battery
SGSII
Not LTE
only wvga and not qHD/HD (720P)
Galaxy Nexus
No micro SD and worse camera then SGSII
Optimus LTE
LG has a bad track record for updates and hardware(never like LG Phones)
Each Phone has it qualities:
Raider
Sence vs Touchwiz (I think Sence is better integrated in the OS the Touchwiz)
qHD
Think HTC has better built quality the Samsung
SGSII
Super AMOLED
Better Benchmarks then Raider
Galaxy Nexus
Android 4.0 ICS
HD Display
Stock Google (no bloatware like Sence or Touchwiz)
LG Optimus LTE
LTE
HD Display
Lite wait integration so similar to AOSP.
Things I'm looking for in a superphone, browsing the web without delay. Quick app launches, Graphics for games, Battery life that last a full day with moderate to heavy usage. XDA Dev support, I guess this is the biggest if there are no Dev's making custom ROM/Kernels then the phone is not worth it. I don't think 16GB (13GB Usable) is enough for me with all my music and apps so Miro SD is a must unless internal is 32GB.
You could further limit your choices to the Galaxy S2 and the Galaxy Nexus. Here's a comparison: http://10division.com/samsung-galax...xy-s2-the-complete-ultimate-comparison-guide/ and a benchmark: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1352839. Even though the Galaxy Nexus scored higher in the benchmark, don't be deceived. ICS was optimized for dual core, so when the SGS2 gets ICS, many people believe it will knock out the Galaxy Nexus. At the moment the SGS2 has more development going on. Hope your choice is a bit easier .
ohh i agree these these phones are still new and it will take till Feb/March to actually seem some good solid development.
But no it does not make my choice easier, because ICS on SGS is most likey 6 or so months away. It terms of integration i would rather have Google stock then touchwiz as i find it bloated and ugly (too iPhoneish). By far the best integration is HTC Sense but then it also uses more resources.
I wonder is there is stable CyogenMOD for SGSII coz that will solve some problems.
I think it boils down between the Raider and SGSII. Maybe i'm just favoring HTC as i own a few samsung devices (Omnia 2, Wave, Galaxy 7500, Galaxy S) and and find they always have stupid limitations. Where as i never owned HTC but they tend to listen to the customer and try to give you best of the best in both hardware and software, but never owning one i could be shooting myself in the foot.
ARG still very much undesired.
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But no it does not make my choice easier, because ICS on SGS is most likey 6 or so months away.
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Actually, it's closer than you think. ICS is confirmed for the SGS2 for December 2011.
Source: http://androidadvices.com/android-ice-cream-sandwich-mobiles-tablets-announcement-table/.
Yeah but that's most likely Europe, Canada (Bell Canada) didn't get Gingerbread until 2.3.3. So if the trend is the same its going to be at least 6 months from the first ICS release.
I only saw one firmware release of Froyo and one release of Gingerbread in Canada in the last 2 years. So we tend to laggy behind, don't know who is to blame Samsung or Bell but that's the way it has always been here.
The specs on the LG Optimus LTE make it difficult to ignore. I want to see one of these before I pass judgement.
Hmm I would take HTC cause I don't trust Samsung and LG enough. They don't convinced me by their previous devices.
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I'm in the market for a new phone too and looking into whats what. Did you consider the Sensation XE? I've been totally sold on SENSE but since a couple of weeks on CM with a decent launcher and widgets I can't go back to SENSE. This is on my current Desire HD. Now I'm free to choose anything that has good CM support. But in the end I swayed to XE because of the battery capacity and smaller screen compared to Nexus. CM looks pretty active on the native Sensation.
I've read today that some Samsung Galaxy Nexus have problems with volume. It's still not known the reason (hw or sw) but it seems that if two SGN are near, the volume calls of one influences the other one sound volume.
Google it to have more infos.
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I'm in the market for a new phone too and looking into whats what. Did you consider the Sensation XE? I've been totally sold on SENSE but since a couple of weeks on CM with a decent launcher and widgets I can't go back to SENSE. This is on my current Desire HD. Now I'm free to choose anything that has good CM support. But in the end I swayed to XE because of the battery capacity and smaller screen compared to Nexus. CM looks pretty active on the native Sensation.
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Bell does not have the Sensation XE, I'm still leaning towards the Raider and if sense starts to slow it down then i can always go CM that is if the Dev's support it. Don't even have a fourm for it here on XDA, sure have the HTC vivid but i would like its own fourm. Samsung's SGSII look good but it still samsung they don't have the best integration with the OS and somethings do not work.
LG i can't say never owned one but reading about LG support it seems it worse then Samsung.
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Samsung's SGSII look good but it still samsung they don't have the best integration with the OS and somethings do not work.
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Do you have any proof of this?
On paper the optimus lte is the best phone to get, assuming ics update comes out for it. I had the phone on order and will be canceling it tomorrow. Why? Well...what we didn't know till now is the actual processor used in the phone. Whereas the galaxy nexus uses an omap 1.5ghz clocked down to 1.2ghz, which saves battery life (and could be oc'd again if you root it), the optimus lte actually uses an outdated apq8060 qualcomm processor which is rated at 1.2ghz. They've then over clocked it to reach 1.5ghz. That leads to huge battery drain, giving the phone a 3 hour battery life compared to 6 hours on the galaxy nexus.
I don't know why lg did this. The phone it was designed to co Pete with, the galaxy s2 hd lte (which is released in Korea only so far) runs the msm8660 processor at a stock 1.5ghz, and is able to provide just over 5 hours of talk time. Again...compared to just 3 hours on the optimus lte. It's a ridiculous move by lg and ruined a phone that had a "lot" of potential.
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the optimus lte actually uses an outdated apq8060 qualcomm processor which is rated at 1.2ghz.
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Its not 'that' outdated .
Theonew said:
Its not 'that' outdated .
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I should have clarified....outdated for a phone that's trying to be the #1 in terms of hardware and processing power. The fact they went with the apq8060 instead of the msm8660 at the very least is disappointing.
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I should have clarified....outdated for a phone that's trying to be the #1 in terms of hardware and processing power. The fact they went with the apq8060 instead of the msm8660 at the very least is disappointing.
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Still faster than the Galaxy Nexus.
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Still faster than the Galaxy Nexus.
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How do you figure? Speed has nothing to do with the MHz or GHz. Different architectures can do more work per cycle than others. The CPU in this phone is so bad that it will die after 1 hour and 25 minutes of streaming a Netflix video. Whereas the iPhone can pull about 6 hours.
TI's omap processors are far better than the current qualcomm s3 chips. Samsung's exynos is better even yet. Maybe when the s4 krait quad-2.5ghz come out they'll do better as they're 28nm as opposed to 45nm on the current chips. But then the exynos will beat it out again.
I spent 5 hours of my day playing around with this phone. Everything about it is quite decent. Feels great in my hand. Super light weight. Beautiful display. Better browser and benchmarks than other similar phones. But has like half the battery life too...at unacceptable levels. Skip this phone.
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P.s. I should add that the galaxy nexus is far outperforming this phone in benchmarks. And it is running a 1.5ghz chip that's been Downclocked to 1.2ghz. So you could always set it back to stock speeds and get a 20% performance boost in non-gpu activities. Once the nexus launches in early December I'll get to test it out for myself but from all the tests I've seen, the only problem you could have with the phone is that it's a super amoled, and not a super amoled plus screen. Though at 720p that may not be such a huge issue.
I've had many Samsung phones and then made the switch to the HTC sensation 4G. Forget the fact that it is thicker and oh so much heavier then Samsung phones. But Sense as pretty as it is takes way to much power, and battery life is non existent! People would constantly complain of sound quality and had many dropped calls. Took me almost 4 months to understand, but once i did i ran back to samsung and am now sporting the Tmobile SGSII and it is lighter, thinner, oh so much faster! and smoother then the Sensation. everyone noticed an improved voice quality and no more dropped calls!
Can I nip this question in please!
Between the SGS2 and Sensation XE if both are running say CM7 at approx the same CPU, which one would likely have a better battery life?
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Can I nip this question in please!
Between the SGS2 and Sensation XE if both are running say CM7 at approx the same CPU, which one would likely have a better battery life?
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The Samsung Galaxy SII.
i suggest get the Samsung Galaxy S2. its like having a laptop putting it in a compact Smartphone. S2 does it all from gaming, entertainment, document editing etc.

Skyrocket Envy?

Played with the skyrocket today and I gotta admit I'm having a bit of envy, mostly over the screen but also over the shape and the slightly faster processor.
Anyone else having that? The device is huge though which put me off quite a bit.
I guess I'm kind of hoping of being talked out of trading in for one. Is there a legitimate reason to choose the skyrocket over the S2? Aside from screen. I know a root and mods can get me a 1.5 gigahertz processor.
Well the 1.2 Ghz exynos processor is actually faster/better than the Snapdragon 1.5 Ghz. The 4.3" screen size imho is better, at least for me and doesn't look as nerdy The LTE is the only thing that would make me switch but it's not too big a deal yet.
I thought they both used an exynos but the skyrocket was clocked to 1.5 and got an 1800 mAh battery to compensate? I also sort of disregard the lte since I live in an area that will likely not get lte for quite a while.
Nope. Skyrocket got the snapdragon cpu just like the tmobile sgs II did.
The sgs II is a better choice for you, AntwanL Why do I say that?
People don't come to xda for no reason. They want to see what they can 'do' to their phone. And here you are at xda. The sgs II will always have more being done to it than the skyrocket.
If you don't care about modifying android on your phone, then go for a skyrocket. It is a samsung with a dual core phone and 1gb of ram. That's nothing to sneeze at.
A .2 inch bump in screen size and lte, that won't be wide spread for awhile, is not enough for me to get a phone that will have less choices that the alternative, this phone.
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More like Note envy.
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Also look in the skyrocket forums and specifically the developers section and compare it to the SGS2 developers section. Plus what the others have said above. To me it is more important to have developers who make our phones better due to having a international phone that is the same.
The ONLY two phones for the skyrocket are the T-Mobile phone and I THINK the Canadian version of the skyrocket. So the developer support will never be as big.
To see how this works look at the support on the older generation galaxy s phones (captivate, i9000) and compare it to other phones that did not have international phone in common with it. The i9000 and captivate still have a great support of developers even with it being an older generation of the phone.
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More like Note envy.
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Haha, I'm loving my note. All my buddies are work comment on it.
The apple fanboys go "Is that a small Ipad?, it looks like a small Ipad, anything bigger than an ishitPhone is too big"
Good times...
Anyways op....
The skyrocket is inferior in every single way Hardware wise. At&t also throttles you much faster on LTE than on HSPA+
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the GS2 is as fast as the skyrocket, despite having a lower clock speed. The reason is the superior GS2 processor. Also, the GPU on the GS2 is superior, so despite similar speed, graphics are much better (and not choppy) on the GS2 than the skyrocket. The skyrocket will never be as hackable as the GS2, and so it will always be difficult or impossible to overclock it much. Despite the GS2 being of similar speed with a 1.2ghz processor, compared to the skyrocket's 1.5ghz processor, I am already overclocking my GS2 to 1.6 ghz and haven't had any stability issues at all. CM7 has the 1.6 ghz overclock feature already baked into the rom, so you don't need to flash a separate custom kernel.
I was going to originally get the skyrocket, but decided to go with the GS2 instead. The processor and GPU superior (and overclocked is much faster than the skyrocket will ever be capable of). Also, the resolution is better and it is very hackable. The only skyrocket advantage is LTE (I went with GS2 despite living in an LTE area and having unlimited data) but this is only a minor advantage. You use the processor all the time, but the data plan only sometimes, and LTE simply means somewhat shorter wait times for downloading.
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the resolution is the exact same....and just as hackable...
So currently sporting the SGS2 with UnNamed 1.3.1 and really love it. Cured all Skyrocket envy
AntwanL said:
So currently sporting the SGS2 with UnNamed 1.3.1 and really love it. Cured all Skyrocket envy
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If you ever think you wished you went with the skyrocket, check out their dev section, or rather lack thereof. Then for icing on the cake look through the q&a section.
I just got done looking though it for a friend who was having the 100% battery problem, and all I can say is wow. Largest collection of new android users that have no idea how to use any android phone.
Not trying to be mean but there's some serious education that needs to go on over there for any large scale progress to be made (cm7 cm9 or miui, much less stock roms). For their sake I hope it happens.
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No envy here....Sure the screen is larger and it has LTE. However, I dont live in a area that is likely to see LTE for quite some time and the screen in note a selling point for me only being bigger.
I will wait a year or so to see what the market has at that time. I cant afford to purchase the latest and greatest every few months when a new device with 512mb more memory comes out etc....lol
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If you ever think you wished you went with the skyrocket, check out their dev section, or rather lack thereof. Then for icing on the cake look through the q&a section.
I just got done looking though it for a friend who was having the 100% battery problem, and all I can say is wow. Largest collection of new android users that have no idea how to use any android phone.
Not trying to be mean but there's some serious education that needs to go on over there for any large scale progress to be made (cm7 cm9 or miui, much less stock roms). For their sake I hope it happens.
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this.
my skyrocket will be in my hands soon, but damn, i dread some of the goings on over there....
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this.
my skyrocket will be in my hands soon, but damn, i dread some of the goings on over there....
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I salute you in your efforts. For the next week or so I'm recovery from surgery on a pilonidal cyst - yeah buddy - I'll see what help I can be over there as far as general android education goes, a week may be all I can handle.
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I just returned my Skyrocket for an original SGS2. I live in an area with LTE (Dallas) and while it was neat, I never felt like it was useful. I just visit webpages and use the navigator and things like that. Even streaming YT videos wasn't much faster....not worth much more than running speed tests and going LOLWTF LOOK AT HOW FAST THIS IS......yeah it's pretty awesome but unless you tether or something, meh. It just never felt any faster than my girlfriend's SGS2.
The battery life was bad (LTE radio + 4.5 inch screen + the slightly faster clocked (but slower overall) CPU overtook the small bump in mAh), reception was bad (I'd have 1-2 bars most of the time for LTE and it would switch back and forth from 4G to LTE all day), and the aftermarket support (physical and developmental) is very lacking of course.
I prefer the SGS2 over the Skyrocket.
Also, I don't forsee CM or MIUI to EVER be on the skyrocket, since it's not an international phone. Very small userbase.
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this.
my skyrocket will be in my hands soon, but damn, i dread some of the goings on over there....
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Even worse than the Infuse forums?
Edit: Great link in your sig to kang.
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Even worse than the Infuse forums?
Edit: Great link in your sig to kang.
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i never got an infuse, so i dont know what its like over there.
kang away!...lol. i love that post
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Played with the skyrocket today and I gotta admit I'm having a bit of envy, mostly over the screen but also over the shape and the slightly faster processor.
Anyone else having that? The device is huge though which put me off quite a bit.
I guess I'm kind of hoping of being talked out of trading in for one. Is there a legitimate reason to choose the skyrocket over the S2? Aside from screen. I know a root and mods can get me a 1.5 gigahertz processor.
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Go with the SGSII not the Skyrocket cause... who wants a phone called the "Skyrocket".
I had the same internal debate and ended up with my AT&T SGSII pretty much for all the reason everyone else is giving. Major players for me were the size, processor type and well the name? haha
Peace!
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Go with the SGSII not the Skyrocket cause... who wants a phone called the "Skyrocket".
I had the same internal debate and ended up with my AT&T SGSII pretty much for all the reason everyone else is giving. Major players for me were the size, processor type and well the name? haha
Peace!
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Lol
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the resolution is the exact same....and just as hackable...
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The number of pixels is the same, though the SR's screen is bigger so the resolution is worse. It is not nearly as hackable, because the only similar device is T-Mobile's GS2. The international GS2 is similar to AT&T's GS2 so there will always be much more hacking going on with it than the SR.

Samsung SGS3 or Rezound?

Hey guys i cant decide if i should get the sgs3 or stick with my rezound. with money aside, what would you guys do? why is the sgs3 so hyped and is it even going to be better?
the rezound has 1.5 ghz dual core while sgs3 had 1.4 dual core. both have 8mp cameras.
idk they just seem similar and idk why this phone has so much anticipation.
any feedback would help
It's all what you really enjoy personaly I loved My epic 4G touch (sprints galaxy s2) and had to swap because sprint dropped signal in my area I like the rezound but I belive Samsung is geared to what I like and they give you more freedom on your phone.
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Save your money get the next nexus and profit.
i've been through like 6 rezound so usually i can convince VZW to replace me with a new device. I can't decide though if it would be smart if i should try to get the samsung or just keep the rezound
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i've been through like 6 rezound so usually i can convince VZW to replace me with a new device. I can't decide though if it would be smart if i should try to get the samsung or just keep the rezound
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If you test the signal in stores or something and it's good id go for it. Grabbing your the gs3.
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Go for sgs3
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well the speed of the dual core might be similar but they're running different chips, whihc apparently makes quite a difference in speed and supposedly in battery life too. but one thing samsung has had issues with on cdma from a lot of people's experiences i've read about is poor signal. for whatevre reason they seem to have trouble making good cdma radios.
If you don't like sense, want a thinner phone go with the gs3. If you want a better screen and sense stay with the Rez. I am 90% sure I am sticking with the Rez for now at least but I'll see what else is lined up for the fall/holiday time frame.
I think the biggest thing to consider between the two devices is the size, weight, and the battery life. SG3 has an edge on all of these 3 areas.
the screen on the SG3 can be too big for some people but if you like large phone, then it's the obvious choice. While SG3 is 1.2, it should actually runs faster due to the newer cpu.
personally if I would buying a new phone, I would choose SG3 over Rezound simply because it has newer technology and hopefully will support future os upgrade. The advantage with rezound of course is the ROM development.
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I think the biggest thing to consider between the two devices is the size, weight, and the battery life. SG3 has an edge on all of these 3 areas.
the screen on the SG3 can be too big for some people but if you like large phone, then it's the obvious choice. While SG3 is 1.2, it should actually runs faster due to the newer cpu.
personally if I would buying a new phone, I would choose SG3 over Rezound simply because it has newer technology and hopefully will support future os upgrade. The advantage with rezound of course is the ROM development.
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Isn't the SG3 1.5ghz similar to the Rezound? It just has a different chipset.
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if i had the money to burn id buy the sg3. i've found sense much more bloated than it used to be on my dinc and i believe its actually gotten worse rather than better. I never thought i'd say it but id say bring on touchwiz(even though u might be better getting the nexus still)
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Isn't the SG3 1.5ghz similar to the Rezound? It just has a different chipset.
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yes, 1.5ghz, according to Verizon website anyhow.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...t&action=viewPhoneDetail&selectedPhoneId=5918
okay then. ill try to convince VZW to get me a sgs3 lol. who knows if they will but since ive been through so many phones.... they gotta have sympathy
I upgrade in august and I will probably either go Incredible 4g or go for a nexus. The samsung interface doesn't appeal to me and I am not a hardware nazi. Give me a phone that doesn't have interface lag and I am happy. the most powerful apps i use is probably my browser.
The sgsiii just doesn't look good as a phone looks wise. also after watching some of the break tests and system teardown videos, I'm afraid its gonna be as fraile as the iphone 3g was.
I recommend waiting to see what Google does with ASUS this fall-ish. The padfone looks pretty awesome.
My vote is for rezound.
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My vote is for rezound.
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just curious. why?
For the record, the dual core in the SGS3 completely destroys the one in the Rezound, also 2GB of RAM is basically future proofing you for years.
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just curious. why?
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Cause its a great phone with at least another 18 months of good life left. ICS hasn't even hit yet, and when it does there will be a huge resurgence of development. The screen is still the best one out there IMO, and I really love HTCs design style.
That, and the SGSIII is fugly. Extremely fugly.
Galaxy S3 has the Snapdragon S4 chipset, while the Rezound has the S3 chipset. With equal clock speeds, the S4 can be up to 50% faster than the S3. Overall the GS3 will blow the Rezound out of the water in terms of speed. It also has twice as much RAM and a larger battery. If you could get one for $200, I would do it. With its specs the GS3 seems like a phone that will still be decent 2 years down the line. I'm not so certain about my Rezound 2 years later. At full price I probably would just stick with the Rezound. The only two negatives for the GS3 would be the really large size, and the screen quality is likely a small step down from the Rezound (although 0.5" bigger). One other potential negative is TouchWiz, though I don't know how it compares to Sense 3.6 or 4.0.
S3 is bigger, faster, and has better battery life. I'm dropping the Rezound for it. UI lag drives me insane, and Sense seems like it will always have it, even though its only a split second lag from pressing phone and loading the dialer, I want instant loads like the iphone, and Sense doesn't do it.

[Q] Galaxy S3 as fast as S2 in Everything?

I found this video, as I was comparing the benefits of S3 over an S2.
I thought, that the 4 cores would have made a difference in opening apps and surfing with the browser.
But there is hardly any difference??
Do you think, that the developers will work towards the 4-core processors or not?
I think it will take another few years, till the quadcore will be used appropriately. Till then, the S3 will be replaced by newer models.
As sad as it is, most probably quadcore development will start as soon as apple decides using quadcores.
What do you think about this video? And what benefits are left to buy the S3 if everything is the same?
Pointless. This video was posted weeks ago.
I have come to a similar conclusion, quad core seems to offer no real benefits (that I can see) over dual core. My HTC one s, is much smoother and quicker than my gs3. We're it not for the fantastic screen I would keep the HTC. I can't see one possible benefits to quad core at this time.
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I found this video, as I was comparing the benefits of S3 over an S2.
I thought, that the 4 cores would have made a difference in opening apps and surfing with the browser.
But there is hardly any difference??
Do you think, that the developers will work towards the 4-core processors or not?
I think it will take another few years, till the quadcore will be used appropriately. Till then, the S3 will be replaced by newer models.
As sad as it is, most probably quadcore development will start as soon as apple decides using quadcores.
What do you think about this video? And what benefits are left to buy the S3 if everything is the same?
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i dont agree with u on that. S2, no doubt is still among the top phones in the world but not after release of S3! S3 has quad core, it opens apps in almost double the time it used to open on my s2 or even Note! as far as the development for the quad core is concerned, samsung is a pretty mean and biased manufacturers when it comes to taking the crown in almost any field! they would not let any smartphone beat their flagship at least until the release of S4! what i found after using my S3 for 4 days is that quad cores of s3 are actually not fully unleashed until now, thats the reason samsung is not giving out new roms with real good performance boosts! samsung is working on providing the best possible roms and updates to the s3! it would not leave its flagship alone! i did exactly everything the guy in the video was doing and i find my s3 much faster than his! and btw, i have not rooted or flashed the phone at all untill now! its just out of the box rom!
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I have come to a similar conclusion, quad core seems to offer no real benefits (that I can see) over dual core. I can't see one possible benefits to quad core at this time.
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Totally agree.
well as android move forward, google will have no choice but to add 4 core support in jelly bean
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Yeah the OP is right Quad-Core is useless lets ditch the Quad, Hex core CPU and lets go back to the good old E5300.
I can't believe people, honestly.
Regardless if the SII is slower or not....being a dual core up against a brand new quad core.....the SII is a bad ass.
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Yeah the OP is right Quad-Core is useless lets ditch the Quad, Hex core CPU and lets go back to the good old E5300.
I can't believe people, honestly.
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No one is saying that. It's just useless for this generation until software starts actually being able to use it in the future.
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No one is saying that. It's just useless for this generation until software starts actually being able to use it in the future.
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Yep this is what I was saying.
I think the 2GB RAM and maybe LTE would have been more effective for this generation, than the quadcore. The Koreans are rumored to have both Perks
dont agree with u on that. S2, no doubt is still among the top phones in the world but not after release of S3! S3 has quad core, it opens apps in almost double the time it used to open on my s2 or even Note! as far as the development for the quad core is concerned, samsung is a pretty mean and biased manufacturers when it comes to taking the crown in almost any field! they would not let any smartphone beat their flagship at least until the release of S4! what i found after using my S3 for 4 days is that quad cores of s3 are actually not fully unleashed until now, thats the reason samsung is not giving out new roms with real good performance boosts! samsung is working on providing the best possible roms and updates to the s3! it would not leave its flagship alone! i did exactly everything the guy in the video was doing and i find my s3 much faster than his! and btw, i have not rooted or flashed the phone at all untill now! its just out of the box rom!
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Oh is your S3 faster than the one in the Video?
SGS2 - 800x480 = 384,000 pixels
SGS3 - 1280x720= 921,600 pixels
what you tits don't realize is that the SGS3, with it's magnificent 720p resolution screen, has to push a whopping 2.4x more pixels than the SGS2 - making the quad-core vital in providing a fast, fluid and buttery smooth experience - which surpasses even the SGS2 (with its ****ty resolution) making it an even more impressive feat in engineering.
It simply blazes past devices with similar screens and resolution and makes them seem laggy (Gnex, Note, One X)
Hence, the SGS3's main feature isn't merely it having a quad-core processor, it's actually utilizing that quad-core processor to provide a the fastest, most seamless and unmatched user experience at such a high resolution.
I like poketnow, but I do think this video and the whole notion of the s3 being as fast as the s2 is wrong in my opinion I got my s3 a few days ago, and I still have and use my s2 clocked at 1.4ghz, and it is defiantly more laggy and slower. Web rendering was so much faster and smoother (although it was just as smooth as GB used to be on the s2 before Samsung screwed up ICS for the s2), and opening the same cpu intensive apps put the s2 to shame. Yes when opening things like the phone, or messaging app there was no difference and I won't expect them to be, as how it opens instantaneously on my s2 anyway, so there is so room for speed improvements. Also, I remember sites saying there wasn't much difference between the s1 and s2 speed wise when the s2 came out, and looking back now the s2 feels sooo much faster than the s1 simply because there are a lot more complicated and cpu intensive apps compared to a year ago. In other words I do think my s3 is much faster than my s2.
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I have come to a similar conclusion, quad core seems to offer no real benefits (that I can see) over dual core. My HTC one s, is much smoother and quicker than my gs3. We're it not for the fantastic screen I would keep the HTC. I can't see one possible benefits to quad core at this time.
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Really? It seems people have very different perceptions. My previous phone the Qualcomm S4 HTC One X stuttered like someone on withdrawal from heroin so I went to try all the HTC One X and One S display models I could to see if it was just my handset. It wasn't and the One S was also a stuttery mess.
Funny how different perceptions can be.
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what you tits don't realize is that the SGS3, with it's magnificent 720p resolution screen, has to push a whopping 2.4x more pixels than the SGS2 - making the quad-core vital in providing a fast, fluid and buttery smooth experience - which surpasses even the SGS2 (with its ****ty resolution) making it an even more impressive feat in engineering.
It simply blazes past devices with similar screens and resolution and makes them seem laggy (Gnex, Note, One X)
Hence, the SGS3's main feature isn't merely it having a quad-core processor, it's actually utilizing that quad-core processor to provide a the fastest, most seamless and unmatched user experience at such a high resolution.
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Dude save it.....I mean give me a break. If this is no the most blatant fan boy post I have ever read. The SGS3 is still pushing 720p to a pentile display....compared to SGS2s super amoled plus..... Its a great phone but compared to the OneX its only marginal in most areas. Nobody said the SGSII was better....just how comparable it is. To top it off I have read many posts that say the quad core does get shuttters so save it...that wasn't no BLAZING SPEED they were just showing in the video.....lay off the pipe.
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In all honesty, anything the sg3 can do, the s2 can. Its a jump in performance, but the s2 is already pretty fast. The only reason I'm upgrading will be lte capabilities.
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Dude save it.....I mean give me a break. If this is no the most blatant fan boy post I have ever read. The SGS3 is still pushing 720p to a pentile display....compared to SGS2s super amoled plus..... Its a great phone but compared to the OneX its only marginal in most areas. Nobody said the SGSII was better....just how comparable it is. To top it off I have read many posts that say the quad core does get shuttters so save it...that wasn't no BLAZING SPEED they were just showing in the video.....lay off the pipe.
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It seems as if you're in denial. The SGS2's chipset got a similar resolution pentile screen and that lagged like no tomorrow. the quad core in the GS3 was necessary to make the experience lag free.
And the SGS3 is quite a bit faster and smoother than the One X (Tegra3 - i haven't used the krait one). Try loading up NOVA3 on both, or browsing the web, or anything for that matter.
Note: i'm not discounting the fact that the One X isn't a great phone. It has it's points that best the SGS3 but speed and smoothness is clearly NOT one of them.
I've had both One X devices. AT&T branded and the International version. I also had the GS2 International. The GS3 (Quad Core), hands down, blows them all away as far as performance goes.
Milliseconds starting apps etc doesn't matter, what matters is the Smoothness. The S3 is far more smoother then s2! Someone who tried cm9,is it smoother / faster then stock.?
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It's probably better to post this in the SII section where more people will agree with and not have to argue about it here. The people who are here not to troll are likely going to get an SIII anyway, no matter how good the SII is. Same goes for One X supporters. It's fair to make informed comparison, but don't be an authority over other people choices. Wasn't there already a dedicated thread for comparison:
Official Reviews, Previews and Comparisons as they come thread
Galaxy S3 vs Galaxy S2
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In all honesty, anything the sg3 can do, the s2 can. Its a jump in performance, but the s2 is already pretty fast. The only reason I'm upgrading will be lte capabilities.
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It can't record video with the same quality lag- free.
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