Is there anything like Odin for HTC phones (Android) like the Thunderbolt (lets just say Desire HD)?
I'm thinking of switching because of the cheap plastic and because of the antenna on all 3 of my fascinates. Also, the only reason I got this phone is because of the unlocked bootloader.
Also, are there great developers that are going to work on the Thunderbolt (like we have here)?
Additional question: Assuming that the Thunderbolt is the same price on contract as the Fascinate, is it possible to replace the Fascinate with the Thunderbolt (with all of the problems I have)?
There's nothing like ODIN on the Thunderbolt, although the overall flashing and things on an HTC device should be easier than a Galaxy S. The likely of the Thunderbolt having a lot of devs is high, because I'm assuming that as the next Verizon HTC device, many Incredible devs will migrate to it.
What do you mean by replace?
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There's nothing like ODIN on the Thunderbolt, although the overall flashing and things on an HTC device should be easier than a Galaxy S. The likely of the Thunderbolt having a lot of devs is high, because I'm assuming that as the next Verizon HTC device, many Incredible devs will migrate to it.
What do you mean by replace?
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By replace, I mean trade in for a new device. I bought it at Best Buy if that matters.
EDIT: By Odin, I mean flashing completely to stock if anything goes wrong, or if I just want stock sense again.
If your on a contract, you can't just trade your device in for a new one. Though, Best Buy's Buy it Back program might let you if you applied for it, though I don't know the exact details. If you buy just the device for the full price, you can switch the phones on your contract by deactivating your Fascinate and activating your Thunderbolt.
HTC has a program called HTC Sync that flashes the RUU, or the stock firmware, onto your HTC device. Though, I don't think you will need to flash the RUU at all with the Thunderbolt unless you need to return to stock as it doesn't have Voodoo or the things that mostly cause brick problems for the GalaxyS devices and most of the things you can just flash the stock firmware rom zip to fix problems.
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If your on a contract, you can't just trade your device in for a new one. Though, Best Buy's Buy it Back program might let you if you applied for it, though I don't know the exact details. If you buy just the device for the full price, you can switch the phones on your contract by deactivating your Fascinate and activating your Thunderbolt.
HTC has a program called HTC Sync that flashes the RUU, or the stock firmware, onto your HTC device. Though, I don't think you will need to flash the RUU at all with the Thunderbolt unless you need to return to stock as it doesn't have Voodoo or the things that mostly cause brick problems for the GalaxyS devices and most of the things you can just flash the stock firmware rom zip to fix problems.
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I am not registered for the buy it back program. Also, does the RUU flash recovery, stock boot logo (param.lfs on Fascinate), boot loader, etc.?
HTC uses the RUU and it will update the device based on what is included with the RUU. It would be similar to odin packages for SGS phones, you can include everything or just one thing in the flash package. Most times though, I feel like you're going to want a full RUU package when you need it.
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HTC uses the RUU and it will update the device based on what is included with the RUU. It would be similar to odin packages for SGS phones, you can include everything or just one thing in the flash package. Most times though, I feel like you're going to want a full RUU package when you need it.
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Can I open the RUU's in 7-Zip to see what's inside?
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Is there anything i need to know to minimize the shock of the adjustment? I'm just curious because the TB was epically developed for, rezound seems to be at a much younger place in the regard. Are there any other things i need to keep in mind?
you wont have much of a problem at all i feel... i had a Dinc and once u understand that u need to use amon ra recovery and the difference of using hboot to flash kernels i think u will be fine
So, if I am understanding the situation correctly, The three main things are:
Amon Ra is our recovery,
htc DEV to unlock is necessary (ie, your warranty is void)
Kernel through hboot (for now).
Just came over from a galaxy nexus myself but everything yojoe mentioned covered my initial confusion. The kernel through hboot really threw me off at first as in the past I had only ever used it for radio updates. As for dev scene, I came from an official google phone so I expected less development but as you stated it's really early for this phone anyways. Already though I'm loving the Sense based ICS roms (running cleanrom pro, personally) and Cyanogenmod 9 has made much progress if you are a fan (though no working ril yet).
Well i think everything will pick up for the rezound once the official ICS drops (devs can take it apart to learn how stuff works) and once S-Off is released.
I just left the tbolt for the rezound. The hardest thing to get used to (and its not that hard to get used to) is flashing the kernels. Other than that, this phone slaughters the tbolt.
I started with the evo 4g, which is a great phone. (Has the biggest dev following out of all of the phones i've had, thats the biggest thing I miss about the 4g)..then to the evo 3d, very nice phone, just not as many devs.
Then to the tbolt, very nice phone...but a major step back after having the 3d for awhile.
Now I have the rezound...hands down best phone I've ever had.
1 thing to remember though, from what I have seen you don't want to upgrade to the ICS ruu....I almost did this to run some of the newer roms (the ones without the patch for gb) But I have someone strongly advise me against this due to people having issues with the ruu, then wanting to downgrade back to gb. But you can't downgrade back to gb after upgrading to the ICS leak.
Just do some research and you'll figure it out.
I always wait a week or so after getting a new phone and let it run stock so I can see what it is like before I root it. But thats just me.
I'm actually glad I read this, as I was thinking about flashing the leak, and I hadn't seen that yet. I just flashed nils with the patch, so I don't want to be stuck on the leak if there isn't a way to downgrade yet.
OP, I went from the Tbolt to the bionic and now the rezound. So far I really like the rezound. Although I have only been using it for 2 days now, I do really like it. It seems like the main thing that is a "shock" to learn, so to speak, is the flashing for kernals compared to the Tbolt. But the trade off it ICS, which you couldn't daily on the Tbolt, or the Bionic. The bionic had a working RIL, but since you can't flash kernals there was no hardware acceleration or anything.
The locks on motorola devices is why i chose to stay with HTC. the TB was my first phone, but i think it was an awesome phone, just poorly supported by Verizon. My usb port is coming undone so i got a unused, new in box ReZound on ebay for 200 bucks (lucky auction). Lets just hope it doesn't have any issues hardware wise. Really cant wait to get the chance to run AOKP on this bad boy.
The previous posts sum up the differences well. The hardware on the Rezound is a huge improvement. I flashed the leaked ruu and have had not problems, but most of the ICS roms now have patches so you don't have to.
ive got a feeling the 605.5 update was the update we were supposed to get, but maybe vzw decided on holding on to it till they can patch the current s-off exploit.
call me cynical but coming from a droid x and i remember these type of things happening before with moto and vzw...to the point where devs waited for a new update before revealing how to get root or run cm9 using the 2nd init...
perhaps we should have waited for ics to drop first before unveiling s-off...
It was gonna be launched on other phones regardless.
I highly doubt it..we are a minority to the rest of verizon rezound users...so i doubt they would postpone it....but i can be wrong with some of big reds past behaviors
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My worst fear about it is that it is worse than the newest (5/7) leak and has S-OFF patched with hboot 2.26 or something. So people on the official track are screwed.
Hopefully that doesn't happen though.
just saying vzw is not above going all out against the dev community...even the gnex updates are subject to verizons approval even though the carriers were supposed to be cut out of the loop...vzw does not like anything they dont get money from that they could be charging for...extra functionality w/ no money=evil bad murder kill to them
it's more likely that verizon postponed it for a business reason, like waiting for the inc 4g to drop. it's a flagship device and they're going to want it to be the first HTC with ICS.
exactly my point...technically the only thing holding us back is kernel source which wont come out till the official ics is released...lets say, if they did decide to patch s-off first and then release ics we would either have to stick to these leaks or upgrade to the official...upgrading to the official and presumably a new hboot which would then leave us at the mercy of verizon until devs can find another s-off exploit., if they can...i know there will always be workarounds and exploits to be had but dev unlock and s-off gave us the keys to the kingdom but what if vzw changes the locks completely
Even if the OTA patches the S Off exploit, then we just don't take the OTA, and wait for our devs to use the OTA as the base for their ROMs.....that's how we used to do things on the OG EVO. Once you're rooted, you never, ever, took an OTA. I don't even think they could turn the security flag back on with an OTA update if they wanted to, but I'm not sure. I'm sure there's someone far more knowledgeable who can confirm or deny the truth of that.
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exactly my point...technically the only thing holding us back is kernel source which wont come out till the official ics is released...lets say, if they did decide to patch s-off first and then release ics we would either have to stick to these leaks or upgrade to the official...upgrading to the official and presumably a new hboot which would then leave us at the mercy of verizon until devs can find another s-off exploit., if they can...i know there will always be workarounds and exploits to be had but dev unlock and s-off gave us the keys to the kingdom but what if vzw changes the locks completely
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What would that do for those who don't have s off?
I'm running stock gb, rooted, that's all. I was going to wait until the update then s off.
Are you saying I should s off now? While I have the chance? Im not skilled or comfortable enough with flashing yet, to flash everything seperate like you can with s off. The main reason I would want s off is so that I can go back to complete stock, and locked. Is that enough to do s off?
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What would that do for those who don't have s off?
I'm running stock gb, rooted, that's all. I was going to wait until the update then s off.
Are you saying I should s off now? While I have the chance? Im not skilled or comfortable enough with flashing yet, to flash everything seperate like you can with s off. The main reason I would want s off is so that I can go back to complete stock, and locked. Is that enough to do s off?
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Yes...absolutely! You don't need to flash separate radios and kernels if you don't want. You should do it now just in case...
if youre not comfortable with s-off then dont do it...as im sure htc will not revoke our ability to unlock the bootloader, and you dont need s-off to gain root...im just wondering for those of us that have s-off if we just made it harder for ourselves by unveiling the s-off method before we had the official ics and source... but as tspderek said, it may have just been a decision to sell a few more of the newer phones
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What would that do for those who don't have s off?
I'm running stock gb, rooted, that's all. I was going to wait until the update then s off.
Are you saying I should s off now? While I have the chance? Im not skilled or comfortable enough with flashing yet, to flash everything seperate like you can with s off. The main reason I would want s off is so that I can go back to complete stock, and locked. Is that enough to do s off?
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I would get it done now. There's a chance, albeit small, that HTC patches the new HBOOT to block the exploit. Considering the steps we take to get S OFF, I'd doubt it though.
I understand people wanting to wait todo SOFF or being a little scared of the risks but i don't think anyone should be waiting or worried at this.
The SOFF method has been out for a while now, and alot of successful runs, with alot of troubleshoot threads, solutions - why be scared and wait? Id say just do it. Its running great for everyone whos done it and it gives you way more options with your device if you need to switch between firmware at this time. Why restrict yourself ?
Definitely s-off.
no reason not to.
Especially if you are still on the stock GB OTA release. It took me all of 3 minutes... start to finish. I'll even mail you my wire-trick wire if you need it
no. you need a blank sd card, that's all. when i did s-off i popped in my sd card, started the process, got it on the first go, installed the juopunutbear hboot, flashed recovery, and booted right back into my rom.
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Doesn't S-OFF require you to unlock the bootloader, and by unlocking the bootloader format your phone?
I'm completely stock without root and having to re-setup my phone is one of the main reasons I have not done the S-OFF yet.
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yes, you must unlock your bootloader... and root your phone (via installing amonRA recovery is easiest)
then you are ready to s-off.
I was stock GB phone, I unlocked/rooted and s-off'd it didn't take long at all.
yes you'll have to re-set up some things on your phone, but that's ok, you'll be fresh! All my important stuff is sync'd with google so I'm pretty rapid at wiping and starting from scratch. The benefits after doing this will far outdo any inconvenience of setting your phone up again. You can run a nandroid backup after you flash amonRA before doing s-off as well if you want, but the unlock procedure does give you a wipe unfortunately :-\ use Titanium Backup for your apps if you want to keep specific data about them, otherwise just re-install after you get setup again.
s-offing with a stock GingerBread phone is easy and fast.
Isnt the S-OFF method more hardware related than software related. That's why they tested it on all the S3 phones? Plus, I dont see VZW worrying about the few hundred of us that actually did S-OFF. We're such a small portion of overall users. I would think they would hold it back over greed rather than hardware exploits. Such as Droid Inc 4G is about to drop with ICS and Sense 4. They'd rather people buy that than this phone.
It's both hardware and software dependent IIRC
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Isnt the S-OFF method more hardware related than software related. That's why they tested it on all the S3 phones? Plus, I dont see VZW worrying about the few hundred of us that actually did S-OFF. We're such a small portion of overall users. I would think they would hold it back over greed rather than hardware exploits. Such as Droid Inc 4G is about to drop with ICS and Sense 4. They'd rather people buy that than this phone.
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This. But I think the exploit is both hardware and software, so theoretically they could patch the software side, if they cared enough to.
For new users, just my advice, worrying about this is pointless, it's kinda like us making threads that say next summer gas will be $7 a gallon (or $6 liter) and you keep yourself awake at night worrying about the "what ifs".
Hey guys,
So as the title suggests, this will be my first time rooting any phone. I attempted to root my HTC Inspire 4G, nearly bricked it, and kinda gave up on the whole thing.
Now, with my HTC One loaded with unecessary AT&T apps and other stupid bloatware, I find myself in the same position. I know there are many guides for rooting the One, but are there any that are particularly newbie-friendly? Also, I understand that after rooting, OTA updates are impossible. My question is...is 4.2.2 available currently? What about 4.3? And most importantly, how easy/difficult is it to install an update?
Thanks guys. This whole thing has me moderately excited, and equally freaked out (really really like this phone and DON'T want to brick it).
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Hey guys,
So as the title suggests, this will be my first time rooting any phone. I attempted to root my HTC Inspire 4G, nearly bricked it, and kinda gave up on the whole thing.
Now, with my HTC One loaded with unecessary AT&T apps and other stupid bloatware, I find myself in the same position. I know there are many guides for rooting the One, but are there any that are particularly newbie-friendly? Also, I understand that after rooting, OTA updates are impossible. My question is...is 4.2.2 available currently? What about 4.3? And most importantly, how easy/difficult is it to install an update?
Thanks guys. This whole thing has me moderately excited, and equally freaked out (really really like this phone and DON'T want to brick it).
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If you have never rooted, an HTC device is probably a little intimidating compared to other manufacturers.
Now, if you just get a guide and follow it to a t, you'll be fine.
You can always get thr phone back to a stock state if you want an ota update, buy if you are running a custom rom, that dev will typically update that particular rom with the ota update.
Hope that helps
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if i can help....
i am new to android (iphone convert)...HTC ONE is my first droid device.
i had an iphone 5, Jailbroke it, was lovin life but needed a bigger screen.
HTC One, AT&T, 4.1.2 android
anyhow, i myself was in the same boat as you last week.
my main gripe with the stock HTC one is the fact that you cannot "wake up" the phone any other way
except for the power button. so annoying- it was driving me crazy.
also i have unlimited ATT data plan, and so my wifi tether was dead, and wanted to mod for that as well.
anyhow, i was on the fence regarding rooting my phone, but then i
finally ran into the BULLETPROOF kernel thread here at XDA, and i had to have it.
as i began to research my quest to brick my phone, i ran into this guy on youtube: qbking77
he has some great videos on youtube that will give you the exact instructions and directions on
what you will need to do to root your HTC phone.
His English is easy to understand, he has a support webpage/blog with links to everything you need, very very good and easy tutorial, probably what convinced me to do it.
so here are the steps that he gives:
#1. UNLOCK BOOTLOADER HERE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU7vi388dMk&feature=youtu.be
#2. ROOT INSTRUCTIONS HERE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRkAHw_GmIs
BAM!...you are done rooting.
He uses TWRP (custom recovery), and TWRP has been an easy interface for me, no gripes.
so, anyhow, after you have gone through those steps, if I can suggest a couple other things I ran into.
one of the main reasons I was wanting to root my phone, was to install the bulletproof kernel.
this kernel allows for you to “swipe to unlock” your HTC phone.
it’s super cool, and that was the first thing I wanted to install.
I went ahead and installed it, happy as can be…
everything seemed cool, but after a day or so, went to open my camera,
and what do you know, black camera death screen, NO CAMERA!
I was like WTH, ???
jumped back in the forums (guess I should have researched a little further)
and I am not sure why, or what the deal is, but there is a glitch with the kernel and 4.1.2 android version. some people were fine but there are a lot like me and had the camera error.
so long story longer,
I ended up trying to re-install every single bulletproof rom version that was available,
still no luck.
finally i PM'd another user on these forums, he said he installed the ANDROID REVOLUTION HD (4.2.2 ROM)
i went ahead and installed, then I installed the bulletproof kernel m7-3.4 (for 4.2.2)
and what do you know, 100% just fine, absolutely sweet.
only other thing I’ve done was install the ULTIMATE RIT_ARHD_12.1 (HD icon them package)
and man, my phone has a whole new life, and I am absolutely loving it.
anyhow, hope that helps,
those qbking77 vids are the best thing to use in my opinion,
(oh and qbking77 has a vid to install "free wifi hotspot for the HTC ONE"....took all but 5 minutes and that was the icing on the cake!)
good luck!
AJ
Welcome
I am not big into posting on XDA because I typically found my answers either here or on YouTube. As 9aj9 stated, look up qbking77 on youtube and follow his videos. They are very straight forward. On top of what 9aj9 stated, I also S-OFF and SuperCID. The following videos explain what S-OFF and SuperCID mean and how you get them.
S-OFF - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4BWxtjaamM
SuperCID - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvcYRNMq3YQ
I am personally running Stock Rooted Google Edition (link below), but I have flashed several things. It is all personal preference once you get rooted. Wish you the best of luck!
Stock Rooted GE- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2360608
id like to throw my post in here if I could. I bought a factory unlocked One from htc.com and thought I was going to get updates from htc. They recently told me I still had to wait for updates from my carrier (att). with this bit of news Ive decided I want to put a stock google 4.2 on my one. Are these instructions posted above good for me to use? sense is something I can do without, has someone made a rom with 4.2 with sense as well?
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id like to throw my post in here if I could. I bought a factory unlocked One from htc.com and thought I was going to get updates from htc. They recently told me I still had to wait for updates from my carrier (att). with this bit of news Ive decided I want to put a stock google 4.2 on my one. Are these instructions posted above good for me to use? sense is something I can do without, has someone made a rom with 4.2 with sense as well?
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I have the ViperOne rom, it's 4.2.2 and Sense 5....
Best advice is take a step back and give it a few days. You will absorb everything there is in time. And if you **** up it Can be fixed ^_^
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9aj9 posted the very videos I used to unlock my bootloader and root mine, thats exactly what I would have posted,,
And if you want a good rom to run that 4.2.2 use this one with Sense 5 as well
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2183023
its close to stock with little tweaks here and there and its ALL I have been using. The Dev Mike1986 updates it rather often!
Plus if you are alittle worried at the moment, I would recommend keeping it simple and not worrying about SuperCID and S-off...while I to am both of these things, it isnt really necessary
You don't need to be rooted to wake your device with something beside the power button.
I use 'Power On Volume' and my volume button wakes my device. I use a different app that allows me to lock my HTC One with a touchscreen button.
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Awesome!
I picked up the HTC One a few days ago from AT&T (coming from iOS). Like 9aj9, some things were finicky like not being able to wake the phone other than the power button, I can see the gripes with the volume button placement and are easily triggered. I got a slim case to give me space away from the volume rocker.
Anyway, I was going to flash to the Home2Wake kernel, but the bulletproof kernel sound even better! However, seems it's most stable if Android Revolution HD ROM in installed (is that the right word?).
So, I have one question before I proceed - can I revert the HTC One to stock 4.1.2 after flashing to Revolution ROM? I'm asking because I am still within the return window and would like the option of getting it back to stock if I wanted to return it.
Im pretty certain u can revert, when u go through qbking77's vids, i believe he has a vid in reverting back to stock.
But one main thing is u have to run a full backup once u have TWRP installed....
aj
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I was wondering about firmware. I just got my ATT One and I saw a lot of users are flashing the newest firmware.
Is this necessary and if so, what order do we do it in? Flash the firmware after Root?
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I was wondering about firmware. I just got my ATT One and I saw a lot of users are flashing the newest firmware.
Is this necessary and if so, what order do we do it in? Flash the firmware after Root?
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Not needed. The firmware that comes with the phone works on 4.2 roms also (the old If it isnt broken dont fix it comes to mind here ). Some of us just like to have the latest greatest everything so I did the firmware update as well, but like I said, its not necessary.
Also, when installing a 4.2 rom keep in mind that the file system will be different as 4.2 has support for multiple users.
Maybe I caught you before you went ahead and rooted, but it was honestly a piece of cake. I pretty much followed what 9aj9 wrote (thread 3). If you follow qbking77's videos, you can't go wrong. I used a W7 machine, even thought I usually use a Mac, but qbking77 used a W7, so I was able to do each step exactly. I did download the most recent SuperSU (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053) instead of the older version form the site.
Anyway take your time, make sure you have a few hours. Also, realize you will lose everything when you unlock the boot loader. I backed up most things with Helium, but you have to re-install all the apps, Helium just backs up the data.
I decided to come back from WP, mostly because the phone I have lacks an LED notification light (yeah, it's a big deal for some of us).
Anyways, I picked up an Amaze 4g off of ebay at a decent price, but would like to return it to stock before I decide about custom ROM's and such.
I have a reasonable amount of experience flashing ROM's on other android phones, and so on, but I've never used the Amaze and it's already on CM. Basically, I just want to make sure I know the basic approach of flashing it back to "stock", while maintaining the ability to root and unlock it.
Here is the current description:
Android 4.1.2
Baseband 1.15.550L.....
Kernel 3.0.57......
Cyanogen Ruby 10-20130728 Nightly
I'm basically just hoping someone could politely nudge me in the right direction on how to approach this. If it had been my phone from the start, I'd be very comfortable, but I honestly don't know where to start when it's one I've never used, but already unlocked, rooted, and on CM . Is the amaze even fully supported and bug free on CM?
Regards,
BB
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I decided to come back from WP, mostly because the phone I have lacks an LED notification light (yeah, it's a big deal for some of us).
Anyways, I picked up an Amaze 4g off of ebay at a decent price, but would like to return it to stock before I decide about custom ROM's and such.
I have a reasonable amount of experience flashing ROM's on other android phones, and so on, but I've never used the Amaze and it's already on CM. Basically, I just want to make sure I know the basic approach of flashing it back to "stock", while maintaining the ability to root and unlock it.
Here is the current description:
Android 4.1.2
Baseband 1.15.550L.....
Kernel 3.0.57......
Cyanogen Ruby 10-20130728 Nightly
I'm basically just hoping someone could politely nudge me in the right direction on how to approach this. If it had been my phone from the start, I'd be very comfortable, but I honestly don't know where to start when it's one I've never used, but already unlocked, rooted, and on CM . Is the amaze even fully supported and bug free on CM?
Regards,
BB
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is it S On/Off?? supercid?
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is it S On/Off?? supercid?
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It arrives tomorrow, but as it's an unlocked, t-mobile branded model (that has proof of running on AT&T as well), and is on Cyanogen already, I would expect that it is either both already, or capable of doing both without an issue.
I will post back when I check if S-Off is set to permanent, and if supercid is currently installed. I assume root and CWM are a given, but I'm not familiar with the custom kernels and basebands for the Amaze, so aside from what I posted above I'm not sure I know what is considered stock at the firmware level, and what is considered custom, or if it matters when it comes to the Amaze.
Hopefully I can return to at least to a stock ROM and go from there, so I know that everything works as it should, before thinking there's a defect that is really just a bug related to how the previous owner set it up. I should have asked him to set it back to stock + S-off/root, but the price and condition were right, so I didn't want to ask for more than what I paid for.
Thank you,
--bb
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It arrives tomorrow, but as it's an unlocked, t-mobile branded model (that has proof of running on AT&T as well), and is on Cyanogen already, I would expect that it is either both already, or capable of doing both without an issue.
I will post back when I check if S-Off is set to permanent, and if supercid is currently installed. I assume root and CWM are a given, but I'm not familiar with the custom kernels and basebands for the Amaze, so aside from what I posted above I'm not sure I know what is considered stock at the firmware level, and what is considered custom, or if it matters when it comes to the Amaze.
Hopefully I can return to at least to a stock ROM and go from there, so I know that everything works as it should, before thinking there's a defect that is really just a bug related to how the previous owner set it up. I should have asked him to set it back to stock + S-off/root, but the price and condition were right, so I didn't want to ask for more than what I paid for.
Thank you,
--bb
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well if it worked with AT&T it means its been super cid to super cid it has to be S OFF thats my guess , well if its s off all you have to do is run a RUU and you'll be in stock firmware
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well if it worked with AT&T it means its been super cid to super cid it has to be S OFF thats my guess , well if its s off all you have to do is run a RUU and you'll be in stock firmware
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Thanks for your help!
Update:
Yep, it was s-off, super cid, and 4ext, all ready to go. Thanks again. I'm not used to HTC so I wanted to be extra careful and know what to look for. CM 10 didn't allow for BT calls, which is odd, but a deal breaker because I pretty much only use BT for voice, so stock is working out very nicely. Sense is actually better than I expected, or at least the modified Afnan tweaked one I installed. It's very fluid, and has good access to the controls I need. I had to tweak all of my other devices a lot more, to get the same functionality. I slapped on Nova launcher, tweaked it a bit, and I'm really liking the Amaze.
The one odd thing is that BT is terrible if I have the phone more than about 3 inches from my head. I'm guessing my case has issues, but haven't tested it without it yet.
I've rooted/unlocked every Android I've had, first being the Galaxy Nexus (which was by far the easiest to tinker with) and then the HTC One M7. My M8 introduced me to having to relock (and consequently wipe everything, even /data/media/), flash the correct firmware RUU, then go through the unlocking+flashing process all over again since I didn't choose to pay for Sunshine and Firewater failed. I probably was supposed to do that with the M7 but I never had issues with it, so I never bothered.
Is Samsung a completely different from these? I've looked into CF, seems easy enough (and from what people are saying, doesn't format literally everything like HTC's unlocking). Is it just root it and then flash on (I assume the T-Mobile US version is unlocked) or do you have to worry about the correct firmware versions, S-Off, etc. I plan on going AOSP as I dislike Touchwiz but I will give it a try, as Sense 6 and Sense 7 grew onto me. Also, I hear a lot about Knox- if rooting simply disables OTAs like the M8 (and, unlike the M8, doesn't tell you to update every hour) and Samsung Pay, then I really could care less about that.
Sorry for the truck loads of questions- I just want to know if buying the Edge is worth it for me (the Netflix deal is really appealing- I'll be saving more than if I kept my M8).
I have no experience with tmobile samsung devices but VZW S4,5 and almost certainly the 6 have locked bootloaders making AOSP impossible.
JewRican said:
I have no experience with tmobile samsung devices but VZW S4,5 and almost certainly the 6 have locked bootloaders making AOSP impossible.
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Verizon always locks the bootloader. Same with ATT. Tmobile and sprint have unlocked bootloaders