[Q] Standard Dock - Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Considering buying the Standard Dock for use as a clock and just.. being a nice accessory to throw your phone in when not in use.. but my main concern is this. Does the fact that the screen is going to be on overnight (which is when I'd have the device docked) going to be a problem?
To be clear, I'm not worried about things like ghosting or damaging the screen that way, but rather am I going to drastically reduce the life of my device if the life expectancy of my Atrix is two years tops?

When it's in the dock there is a button to dim the screen. It's very dim at that point so I doubt much power is used. The Dock includes a power brick as well.
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mreamy said:
When it's in the dock there is a button to dim the screen. It's very dim at that point so I doubt much power is used. The Dock includes a power brick as well.
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Life expectancy of the device, not battery life. I appreciate the rapid response though

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Game destroying battery life?? - "Great Little War Game"

I got the game Great Little War Game (GLWG) at the Android Market during the $.10 deal and I gotta say its A LOT of fun - amazing turn based strategy game, but its absolutely destroying my battery life. My normally steady, linear decline in battery goes to a dive. Itll be at about a 10-20 degree decline with normal use, then goes to about 70 degree dive. Is this normal??? I know its a pretty taxing game with the graphics and whatnot of the game (amazing btw) but to kill it that fast??
I'll have to pull it up here soon and take a screenshot of the battery graph after playing it, pretty impressive.
Sorry if this belongs in "Known Battery Drainers", this was a slightly more specific one.
And reading some reviews on the Market, people report it being not that hard on the battery so I'm curious.
A lot of games are like that it seems, I bought Minecraft PE from the $0.10 deal and it totally owns my battery.
yeah i got this great game too and it is the worst ive ever seen at battery drain. i cant even have it plugged in and not have it die (after a while), its crazy. the game also makes my phone pretty hot.
Ha I was just playing and the phone got so hot a warning came on the sscreen saying charging paused battery too hot or too cold. it was hooked up to the tv though. touched it and nearly burned my hand I'm probly frying my cpu.
Yea. Same issues over here. My phone gets extremely hot and the battery plummets.
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I noticed the heat too and yea! Even plugged in with a Palm 1000mAh charger it can't keep up! Craziest thing ever, is it just that hard on the processor?
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that game probably taxes the video harder than other games, so the battery dies faster. just my guess.
I love this game but I totally agree that it anniilated my Desires battery. Im getting this phone tomorrow and cant wait to play grand theft auto 3
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Go to the game's settings menu. Click "Best Graphics". Screen will go black and turn back on. It should now say "Fast Graphics." Turn "Mission Intros" off. Over on the left side of the Settings screen are 3 sliders. The bottom one controls some of the scene animations (like water flow.) Change it to anything other than "Ultra". All these things helped me to reduce battery drain and overheating. The slight decrease in game visuals is a small price to pay for better battery life and not turning your phone into a hotplate.
10tonhammr said:
Go to the game's settings menu. Click "Best Graphics". Screen will go black and turn back on. It should now say "Fast Graphics." Turn "Mission Intros" off. Over on the left side of the Settings screen are 3 sliders. The bottom one controls some of the scene animations (like water flow.) Change it to anything other than "Ultra". All these things helped me to reduce battery drain and overheating. The slight decrease in game visuals is a small price to pay for better battery life and not turning your phone into a hotplate.
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Thanks for the heads up! I really appreciate it! Hoping this helps a bit
Just tried it with the changes and I'll admit it doesn't look near as good but definitely playable and doesn't really take away from the fun of it. HUGE improvement in heat and battery drain! Thank you so much for that advice!
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I think this game destroyed my battery. I was hooked and played it for hours while charging (although it still drained my battery).
I killed all running apps and then let the phone charging over night. Next morning the phone was so hot it almost burned my hand and it was dead. I left it cool down and tried turning it on, but it didn't. I plugged it in again and the battery wouldn't charge. Then I swapped my battery with my wive's and everything worked perfectly.
Now I have a new original battery and the phone is workibg again. I don't plan using any battery hogger game/app again.
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So after using it more, even with stuff turned down it still seems to consume so much battery that the charger can't keep up. Still seems to get hot but again not as bad. I wish they would fix it
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One thing nobody mentioned in this thread (unless I missed it): are you overclocking your CPU at all?
No, its at 200-1200 ondemand.
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AntwanL said:
So after using it more, even with stuff turned down it still seems to consume so much battery that the charger can't keep up. Still seems to get hot but again not as bad. I wish they would fix it
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Same here. And no oc
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I emailed ths dev so hopefully it'll help
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Have you tried to underclock the phone? Helps a little with those horrible optimized games. Less battery, less heat. Game should still run as smooth as butter. Or cake, I like cake.
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Have you tried to underclock the phone? Helps a little with those horrible optimized games. Less battery, less heat. Game should still run as smooth as butter. Or cake, I like cake.
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I did. I believe it did help a little
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Is it good to charge and use phone at the same time?

My phone has 50% battery left. I plug the cable into my laptop to charge over USB. Then I play some games at the same time. The battery level comes up slowly.
So is it good to do that? Or we should do one at a time: charge or use phone.
I have always done it that way and ive had android ever since it first came out. Nothing should go wrong, at least not for me.
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No problems with that.
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Yeah this is a good question I have always wondered about it... Won't it affect the battery like long term?
Wont harm anything
it doesn't matter if affects to the battery or not, you will trade your phone for another new one before the battery gets damaged
The only issue is that the phone will heat up like crazy so...
If you're overclocked or it's a very hot day, please avoid doing this, otherwise you may damage your phone.
Charging in power off stage
Does anyone feel charging in power off stage is quicker than normal stage?
illusiongod said:
Does anyone feel charging in power off stage is quicker than normal stage?
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Charging when the phone is turned off is quicker for me
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illusiongod said:
Does anyone feel charging in power off stage is quicker than normal stage?
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Of course it is. One is "In & Out" while another is "Only In" >>> The battery is filled faster
@Everyone: I wonder if it will affect the battery life. For example, its capacity is reduced faster
//Pls excuse me for my poor English
ntduyphuong said:
Of course it is. One is "In & Out" while another is "Only In" >>> The battery is filled faster
@Everyone: I wonder if it will affect the battery life. For example, its capacity is reduced faster
//Pls excuse me for my poor English
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It shouldn't.
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Using while charging overheats the battery and the mobile itself.
Heat is the biggest enemy of batteries (wrt. longetivity), so yes it does reduce battery life. Having said that, most of us upgrade phones in less than 2 years, so it wouldn't be as much of a problem.
But overheating is not good for rest of the phone hardware.
sumeshpremraj said:
Using while charging overheats the battery and the mobile itself.
Heat is the biggest enemy of batteries (wrt. longetivity), so yes it does reduce battery life. Having said that, most of us upgrade phones in less than 2 years, so it wouldn't be as much of a problem.
But overheating is not good for rest of the phone hardware.
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I really doubt that. If the phone or battery were overheating, you wouldn't be able to touch it.
Maybe it reduces battery life, but that can't be much, since the battery gets hot whether it's being charged or not.
I kill two battery on my x10 !!with heavy use it when it charge.
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I kill two battery on my x10 !!with heavy use it when it charge.
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If you left it in all the time, yeah, that would.
Using it while charging is fine. Mine charges at about 30-35*C, gaming on top its up to max 41/42. Thats well within limits and its going to have negligible effects on the battery pack.
What charger? Sure it was an dealextreme charger.
Logic.
Killing 2 batterys? Dafuq
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Mugen Power 5400mAh Extended Battery for AT&T Galaxy Note SGH-i717 w/ Battery Door

Mugen Power 5400mAh Extended Battery for AT&T Galaxy Note SGH-i717 w/ Battery Door
Just got it in the mail today. I'll post more later.
First impressions are:
1) great sturdy battery door, very good fit
2) total height is approx 11 quarters (SEE PICS)
3) adds approx 9.55mm
4) Battery weights 97 grams (FYI, OEM battery weights 50 grams)
Day 2: The included instructions said to charge the battery (in the phone) for 8-12 hrs. So I just finished that step and will report in tonight with some battery stats. I hadn't looked for cases (I didn't use one prior to getting the Mugen extended batery).
Day 3: 25 hrs on battery w/ 25% left (with moderate to heavy use throughout the day and night). I'm a true believer that this battery is the real deal. The extra thickness is a drawback but the way the battery door tapers does help some. I don't know how to test the NFC capabilities with the new battery door, maybe someone can tell me a way to do this. The inside to the battery door sure looks like it has the NFC hardware built in.
Day 4: 24 hrs since last charge with 68% battery left (low to moderate use).
Power Brick!!! Hows the battery life compared to stock?
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
I like it... do you know if there any cases to support the extra size?
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Yeah have you found any cases? I guess I wouldn't mind then extra size for almost double their battery life. I'm guessing they Otter box won't fit on it? Also is it really that much bigger have you gotten used to it? Are all hopes lost for trying to fit it into your pocket?
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When you can, drop me some battery stats. I'm looking into getting one myself.
I purchased this for my offbrand extended battery. Curious if it will fit. It says it will fit hyperion and other after market batteries. http://www.ebay.com/itm/270972317633?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
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So any updates on the battery life are you looking it so far?
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Thinking of getting one, just would like to know if the sweet armor bumper would still fit.
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How sturdy is the kickstand? Has the sound quality changed? Does it have the gold contacts for the nfc inside of the cover? Does it charge the phone and battery at the same time when plugged in? And finally, do you now walk with a limp with it in your pocket lol?
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How sturdy is the kickstand? Has the sound quality changed? Does it have the gold contacts for the nfc inside of the cover? Does it charge the phone and battery at the same time when plugged in? And finally, do you now walk with a limp with it in your pocket lol?
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Reply: (Kickstand) The kickstand is sturdy (with no side-to-side movement when deployed at all). It stays in the battery door and only comes out when its pulled out. I guess time will tell if it stays this way. (NFC) Yes, the gold contacts are inside the battery boor. I still have not tested the NFC, mainly because I don't know how when running Gingerbread. (Charging) The phone can be on or off while the battery charges when plugged in. (Carrying Around) The size (the weight is fine) is taking some getting used to. I do like the way the extended battery door tapers.
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So any updates on the battery life are you looking it so far?
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REPLY: The battery life is noticeably more. The second night I was trying to drain it as fast as I could. After about one hour of tethering, video playback, max screen brightness, virus scanning, and continually syncing all running at the same time, the battery dropped from 35% to around 27% of charge left. I was trying to get the battery low so I could start another 8-12 hrs charge (per the battery's initializing instructions), but gave up and had to charge it the next day after lunch when the battery had 15% left.
Oh wow lol seems to be pretty good then so when you carry it do you put it I'm your pocket is it comfortable?
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Screenshot some battery stats if you please.
Will any case fit on it? i still want to protect my note
circuit.007 said:
Will any case fit on it? i still want to protect my note
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Im pretty sure the cases for the note won't work with it. I know people want to protect their phones but do you really want it bigger than it is with the extended battery?
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I purchased this for my offbrand extended battery. Curious if it will fit. It says it will fit hyperion and other after market batteries. http://www.ebay.com/itm/270972317633?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
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Did you ever get the case to fit?
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Screenshot some battery stats if you please.
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See pic
Just from the looks, the sweet armor cases may fit.
That's pretty epic. I want to use my note as a bluetooth music player at work all night long from 11pm to 8am. I think this would finally get my xoom out of my side [cargo] pocket at work.
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There is an app on the market specifically for the purposes of draining the battery as fast as possible. It does this by turning every feature on the phone on (LED for the camera, uploading data via the cellular network, screen brightness at max and several others as well), you can select manually which items you specifically dont want to use (for example, cellular data might be an issue if you are on a limited plan). You need to be careful however, draining the battery too quickly raises the temp of the battery VERY fast. I ran it on the stock battery and in 10 minutes, the battery temp jumped to over 50 degrees C (someone can convert this to F, right now Im a bit too sleepy to do the math) and drained the stock battery from 90% to 62% in this same ten minute period. Search the market for battery drain and look for a description that isnt in very good English, the screenshots will show a list of 5-8 checkboxes with things to do to drain the battery quickly.

Limit Charging from dock to tablet

Hey guys,
Has anyone figured out a way to limit the charging from the dock to the tablet? As in not for the tablet to charge at 75% battery life, to drop it to say 25% the only charge to 50% to try and preserve the life of the batteries, as it seems the tablet will lose battery life due to a 'constant' charge
like a laptop you can set power settings up so that your laptop doesnt charge unless needed when plugged into the power source.
I just want to know if it can be done
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84DGR said:
Hey guys,
Has anyone figured out a way to limit the charging from the dock to the tablet? As in not for the tablet to charge at 75% battery life, to drop it to say 25% the only charge to 50% to try and preserve the life of the batteries, as it seems the tablet will lose battery life due to a 'constant' charge
like a laptop you can set power settings up so that your laptop doesnt charge unless needed when plugged into the power source.
I just want to know if it can be done
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I honestly never thought of this, but I gotta say that's a really good idea. What's the point of charging through the dock if eventually, the battery in the dock is gonna run out? I would love it if anyone could figure this out.
Likewise, i know it's somewhere in the power settings yet its fnding out how to do it, and hopefully you dont have to root it or be running a custom rom, if it could be an app install that does it even better, there are some apps that look at the power consumption yet this one would be to turn off / edit the charge protocol
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From what i have seen even when keyboard dock says no battery (after completely transferring it to tablet) it runs without any problem. It either has some reserve or gets powered by tablet.
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Gabewalters said:
I honestly never thought of this, but I gotta say that's a really good idea. What's the point of charging through the dock if eventually, the battery in the dock is gonna run out? I would love it if anyone could figure this out.
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By charging from the dock when the Prime runs down to around 75%, it keeps the Prime charged up longer as in for around 18 hours instead of the 12 hours the tablet alone is rated to deliver.
Even if the keyboard dock becomes completely depleted, it will still work fine as it draws current from the tablet's battery even while it is "charging" the tablet.
The battery in the dock is only there to charge the tablet, it serves no other purpose.
I interpreted the question as 'this mode of operation is bad for the battery cause it can only cope with XXX charge cycles'
I think it's a limitation in the charging circuit that makes it impossible to run off DC input only (with the battery offline), and the battery technology prohibits a constant float charge of the cells.
It might be possible to tweak the end-of-charge current to closer match the 'on' consumption of the tablet (but in what state), so 95-99% charge takes much longer, but probably only in the kernel. It's not worth the effort for my money...
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From what i have seen even when keyboard dock says no battery (after completely transferring it to tablet) it runs without any problem. It either has some reserve or gets powered by tablet.
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Pretty sure it just draws power from the tablet once the dock battery is dead.
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you're right on the money,
so that i could leave it plugged in for extended amounts of time, I dont want the battery life to die out before i get a good amount of use out of it
I have started to notice it is already not last the 18 -19 hrs as promised and ive had mine for about 3 months
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Want better battery life, try this app

Was reading online what I should do about my battery life and how to improve it. I usually get about 12 hours with 2 hours of screen time. This app has improved my batteries life too 14 hours with 3.5 screen time. Not much but better here check it out
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/0...etter-htc-one-samsung-galaxy-s4-battery-life/
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No
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Never heard of an app that gives better battery life. Seems fishy to me.
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I'm trying it and it's still on learning mode. Im sure it helps a little bit...but not dramatically. Again...it's worth a try.
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arclight25 said:
Never heard of an app that gives better battery life. Seems fishy to me.
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Lol there were always a ton but none of them really did any good, I remember hearing about this one though but I forgot about it
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Yeah I'll post the results after a full charge/dat of usage should be tomorrow night. I like it and I dcan control more
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Never heard of an app that gives better battery life. Seems fishy to me.
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There are quite a few good ones out there. I like juice defender and greenify. I don't really use them now though. The htc one battery does a good job without slowing down the phone.
I never use battery apps ever, but coming to a phone that gets about an hour and a half less screen time, I tried this out for about a week and a half. It did nothing..... I mean literally nothing. Averaged the exact same everything. The only thing that changed was I had an icon in the notification bar. Its not even worth the wait while it's learning..... Apparently to do nothing.
I think this apps actual purpose is to advertise for their processors.
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No, I would just wait. Your can remove the icon from the bar. You should look before you an post (not trying to start a war) give it some time. I have gained a few hours, or maybe my phone is just working better.
The point is to save battery life with losing fluidity
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tacotino said:
Was reading online what I should do about my battery life and how to improve it. I usually get about 12 hours with 2 hours of screen time. This app has improved my batteries life too 14 hours with 3.5 screen time. Not much but better here check it out
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/0...etter-htc-one-samsung-galaxy-s4-battery-life/
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Turn on power saver. Problem solved.
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Turn on power saver. Problem solved.
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BatteryGuru does work a little bit. I used it on my atrix. However what this guy just said.
Turn on power saver and only check underclock CPU and lower screen brightness (HTC one screen is too bright) and you're golden. Haven't noticed a difference in performance from the lower cpu speeds at all. Quad core ftw I guess.
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Its funny how people always use screen time as a way to judge battey life. Theres more to it than that. Gaming, streaming and watching movies will definitely drain the battery quicker. Im not a power user and was very skeptical about the battery on the HTC One when I purchased it. So far, my battery lasted me throughout the day most days. Its true however that HTC is known to have smaller batteries.
SKyRocKeting727 said:
Its funny how people always use screen time as a way to judge battey life. Theres more to it than that. Gaming, streaming and watching movies will definitely drain the battery quicker. Im not a power user and was very skeptical about the battery on the HTC One when I purchased it. So far, my battery lasted me throughout the day most days. Its true however that HTC is known to have smaller batteries.
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Yeah. This is a small battery, I tried guru on the one and it didn't seem to make any change at all, if you out everything into super power save mode it works but then nothing ever updates. Kinda ruined my experience.
Underclocking cpu and lowering screen brightness through power saver is by far the easiest and best way for saving b life without ruining user experience (IMHO)
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I didn't think id like it but I turned power saver on with justlower screen brightness and lower cpu power and I have to say this thing still flies.... No lag at all and even the lowered screen brightness is still to bright imo so I leave it on all the time helps a lot. It takes the battery and phone about a week to break in and learn percentages anyway so don't be discouraged about batt life on the first couple days. Plus we use new devices more which makes a difference. I had a couple other things not perfect at first on my phone like agps not working but after a few charges and reboots it's working great better than my one s with any rom I've ever used.
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No, I would just wait. Your can remove the icon from the bar. You should look before you an post (not trying to start a war) give it some time. I have gained a few hours, or maybe my phone is just working better.
The point is to save battery life with losing fluidity
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I did look.... I don't give a crap if you can turn it off. This app has been around for a while.... I tried one my OneX just for a haha when it came onto the market..... It did nothing on that phone either. If you are gaining power from this app.... Its because the app is doing what I have been doing manually since using Android phones. These battery apps are built for lazy people who refuse to remember to turn crap off they ain't using.
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SKyRocKeting727 said:
Its funny how people always use screen time as a way to judge battey life. Theres more to it than that. Gaming, streaming and watching movies will definitely drain the battery quicker. Im not a power user and was very skeptical about the battery on the HTC One when I purchased it. So far, my battery lasted me throughout the day most days. Its true however that HTC is known to have smaller batteries.
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Screen on time is one of the best ways to judge battery life. If you can get an hour of talk time, texting like mad and get 4 1/2 hours of screen time....video, reading, etc...... That's a bad ass battery.
Phone that's been on for 35 hours with 1 hour of screen time is quite simply a phone that is not used much.
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I don't think you understood what I meant. I meant to say comparing screen times on a device that played intensive gaming vs the screen time on a device that was used to browse the web and text. Both screens are on but the one playing game is likely to chew up battery faster due to the cpu running more aggressive. So basically all these screen times that people post aren't really helping unless they're accurately stating what was it used for. Wifi vs 4G LTE plays a factor also. All in all, it's likely everyone uses their phones for different things so battery life will be judge differently.
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I actually used this app when I had the Nexus, and I HATE battery saver apps like Bullsh.. I mean Juice Defender. The fact that Qualcomm is putting it out for their own chips tells me it's worth a shot.
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I don't think you understood what I meant. I meant to say comparing screen times on a device that played intensive gaming vs the screen time on a device that was used to browse the web and text. Both screens are on but the one playing game is likely to chew up battery faster due to the cpu running more aggressive. So basically all these screen times that people post aren't really helping unless they're accurately stating what was it used for. Wifi vs 4G LTE plays a factor also. All in all, it's likely everyone uses their phones for different things so battery life will be judge differently.
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I understand where your coming from, and you're not wrong. My only point is that phones that can sustain, what I would consider excessive screen on, would naturally stand up better to whatever you throw at it.
Having said that, my OneX would get 5 and a half hours screen on with texting, reading, XDA app all day, YouTube, etc. Sure I could easily kill the battery playing crazy graphics games in 2 and a half hours..... Most phones that are only averaging 3-4 hours of screen time are not going to be able to get 2 1/2 hours of play time doing anything else. My OneX battery kills this One. I wouldn't necessarily say I am a power user.... But I have been known to put a beating on mine pretty regularly.
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