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Has anyone tried ordering the Telstra Mozart for use in the US with AT&T? I did that with my HD2 and it worked great.
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Has anyone tried ordering the Telstra Mozart for use in the US with AT&T? I did that with my HD2 and it worked great.
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Can't see a reason why it wouldn't work for any Telstra phone. 850 / 2100Mhz. I don't think they are locked.. Will try my Vodafone SIM tomorrow.
Does Telstra work on the same 3G band as At&t ?? ( 850/2100 mhz I think )
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Does Telstra work on the same 3G band as At&t ?? ( 850/2100 mhz I think )
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I have a Telstra Mozart handset. I can confirm it is on the 850/2100mhz HSPA/WCDMA bands and are unlocked.
Also note that there is very slight telstra branding on the battery cover. You could most likely get a battery cover on ebay if you wanted to get rid of this.
I'm seriously loving the Mozart, great phone. Although I noticed AT&T is getting the focus, so I'd look at one of those too if I was you.
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Does Telstra work on the same 3G band as At&t ?? ( 850/2100 mhz I think )
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It does. I purchased in HD2 from Telstra that worked fine in the US until I lost it.
AT&T 3G
I bought a Mozart Telstra brand from On The Go Solutions. I have not been able to get 3G on the phone. It should work they are both 850. Would using the Chevron unlocker make the 3G band work do you think? Anyone have any other ideas?
How much do you guys pay for it? I got the Focus as an upgrade but AT&T switched my $15 unlimited media-net plan to 2Gig smartphone plan once they detect I use it on their network. Thinking the Telstra Mozart shouldn't have such issue (been using X1 for years without being detected).
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I bought a Mozart Telstra brand from On The Go Solutions. I have not been able to get 3G on the phone. It should work they are both 850. Would using the Chevron unlocker make the 3G band work do you think? Anyone have any other ideas?
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just to confirm you got the 7 Mozart T8697. if yes, then you should be able to get 3G. Check Settings->mobile network-> and make sure your 3G connection is set to On. i have the 7 Mozart and at&t 3G access is working fine on my grandfathered $15/unlimited smartphone data plan.
@jackleung - your data plan was likely changed because you upgraded with an at&t supported phone. the 7 Mozart is not sold/supported by at&t and i suspect that's why my data plan hasn't changed.
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just to confirm you got the 7 Mozart T8697. if yes, then you should be able to get 3G. Check Settings->mobile network-> and make sure your 3G connection is set to On. i have the 7 Mozart and at&t 3G access is working fine on my grandfathered $15/unlimited smartphone data plan.
@jackleung - your data plan was likely changed because you upgraded with an at&t supported phone. the 7 Mozart is not sold/supported by at&t and i suspect that's why my data plan hasn't changed.
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Thanks cortez for your info and confirmation. Maybe I am under their business plan (with 22% off the phone bill), just upgrading the phones alone did not change my plan.
Almost a year ago, I went to their online shop and got two AT&T Pure as a upgrade (I am on their family plan with ONLY one line has the $15 unlimited media-net plan, the other has no data at all).
Then 2 weeks ago, I walk by their retail store and just looking at the phones (didn't realize I was eligible to upgrade since the last one was less than a year ago). Somehow, the sale lady told me my primary line was eligible while the secondary wasn't (too complicate to understand how AT&T calculate the upgrade time frame). So I can buy the Focus for ~$200 but can't get the BOGO promotion. The contract I sign didn't change my data plan (except it automatic add family map and roadside support which I could remove them online).
Long story short, I am still on my media net as long as I don't use the Focus.
Can you tell me where you folks get the Mozart T8697 and how much you pay for that?
I wouldn't bother if I was you. Australian electronics are notoriously expensive - a Mozart from Telstra is almost $800 outright, and with the Australian dollar almost level with the US...
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I wouldn't bother if I was you. Australian electronics are notoriously expensive - a Mozart from Telstra is almost $800 outright, and with the Australian dollar almost level with the US...
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I just received my Telstra NextG Mozart 8697 Brand New, Sealed handset from an Aussie ebayer. I paid a total of $590US and that included shipping to the U.S. Ebay is full of sealed Mozarts from Telstra and some are a very good deal.
By the way, non-ATT branded phones which work on the ATT 3G bands in the U.S. are eligible for $10 unlimited data plans. I've been using Telstra phones on ATT with $10 unlimited data for a loooonnnngggg time. Whenever I get a new phone, i put the SIM card in, wait a day or two for the compulsory ATT message about the data plan, then head to my local ATT store, see "Clayton" and he changes the data plan to the $10 unlimited. Works great. YMMV but check with an ATT store that is not a company owned store (franchise).
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I just received my Telstra NextG Mozart 8697 Brand New, Sealed handset from an Aussie ebayer. I paid a total of $590US and that included shipping to the U.S. Ebay is full of sealed Mozarts from Telstra and some are a very good deal.
By the way, non-ATT branded phones which work on the ATT 3G bands in the U.S. are eligible for $10 unlimited data plans. I've been using Telstra phones on ATT with $10 unlimited data for a loooonnnngggg time. Whenever I get a new phone, i put the SIM card in, wait a day or two for the compulsory ATT message about the data plan, then head to my local ATT store, see "Clayton" and he changes the data plan to the $10 unlimited. Works great. YMMV but check with an ATT store that is not a company owned store (franchise).
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$590 is really a good deal (hopefully I could sell the Focus to cover some cost)
And $10 unlimited is probably a grandfather plan and maybe hard to get. (Although I already satisfied with my $15 media-net unlimited plan).
@Lumic, Austria device price maybe expensive. But the long term cost is still cheaper for us if we could avoid the smartphone plan from AT&T(not to mention unlimited plan is not available to new user)
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I just received my Telstra NextG Mozart 8697 Brand New, Sealed handset from an Aussie ebayer. I paid a total of $590US and that included shipping to the U.S. Ebay is full of sealed Mozarts from Telstra and some are a very good deal.
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Whoa really?
Are you also receiving warranty (probably would be moot for you as it should be Australian)?
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I purchase the phones knowing that the warranty may not be usable.
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Whoa really?
Are you also receiving warranty (probably would be moot for you as it should be Australian)?
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My Telstra Mozart is roaming great with ATT
misticjeff said:
I just received my Telstra NextG Mozart 8697 Brand New, Sealed handset from an Aussie ebayer. I paid a total of $590US and that included shipping to the U.S. Ebay is full of sealed Mozarts from Telstra and some are a very good deal.
By the way, non-ATT branded phones which work on the ATT 3G bands in the U.S. are eligible for $10 unlimited data plans. I've been using Telstra phones on ATT with $10 unlimited data for a loooonnnngggg time. Whenever I get a new phone, i put the SIM card in, wait a day or two for the compulsory ATT message about the data plan, then head to my local ATT store, see "Clayton" and he changes the data plan to the $10 unlimited. Works great. YMMV but check with an ATT store that is not a company owned store (franchise).
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I gave up on WP7. I'll check back in a year.
cheap!
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I wouldn't bother if I was you. Australian electronics are notoriously expensive - a Mozart from Telstra is almost $800 outright, and with the Australian dollar almost level with the US...
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maybe normally but im about to pick up one from ebay while my current mozart gets repaired and they are going for 250-300 unlocked!
Hi
So I see a few threads containing info on shipping to other countries, and very limited with specific info with regards to Canadian interests. I am in the Toronto area of Ontario, Canada.
Questions:
1. Can the UK version work without issues with the Rogers network? Based on what other folks are saying it seems like it should be able to.
2. Who would be the best online reseller to go through to get an unlocked sim version to be shipped to Canada? What would be the best shipping option, assuming several options are available? Would buying through a US online retailer make sense?
3. Warranty? Should something go wrong, what are my options? Would Samsung only look at it if the unit is sent back to the UK for warranty? Can I buy extended warranty of some sort?
4. Costs? What's the general cost for unit, shipping and other taxes as I know we can't get the 'gift' label scenario going.
5. Any other info worth mentioning?
SGSII and Canada
QAM said:
Questions:
1. Can the UK version work without issues with the Rogers network? Based on what other folks are saying it seems like it should be able to.
2. Who would be the best online reseller to go through to get an unlocked sim version to be shipped to Canada? What would be the best shipping option, assuming several options are available? Would buying through a US online retailer make sense?
3. Warranty? Should something go wrong, what are my options? Would Samsung only look at it if the unit is sent back to the UK for warranty? Can I buy extended warranty of some sort?
4. Costs? What's the general cost for unit, shipping and other taxes as I know we can't get the 'gift' label scenario going.
5. Any other info worth mentioning?
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1. In theory the phone should work on Bell Mobility, Telus, and Rogers 3g network (850 MHz and 1900 MHz) as the SGSII has HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100.
2. Clove.co.uk, Handtec.co.uk, mobilecityonline.com (US), etc..
3. Warranty is Samsung only, so you have to send it back to samsung in uk. In terms of extended warranty there are third party options like SquareTrade.
4. Its around $700 CAD (clove and handtec), $730 US for mobilecityonline. Both are with shipping costs. However, the kicker is the import fees. You have to pay taxes (13% HST) on the original price of the phone when the phone arrives in Canada. so you will end up paying something around $800 CAD in total.
Edit: It is confirmed that you will be charged tax (region specific, 13%HST in Ontario). No brokerage fees, apparently FexEx Express doesn't charge any fess for clearing customs. So no import fees other than the tax.
5. There is an option with imports where if the product is a gift worth less than $60 then there is no import fees charged. However, all three retailers listed above have refused to declare the product as a gift or worth lower than actual price.
At this point it seems like it might be a smart idea to wait but then again you never know how much the phone will cost when it arrives in Canada. The atrix is selling for $600 without contract so Im guessing SGSII will cost more.
I am going nuts trying to decide if I should preorder or not. As you can tell Im with Windmobile and today they announced new voice and data plans. Basically, now I am paying $35 for unlimited everything including data and voice. Now, if I buy the SGSII then I will have to move to Bell, Rogers, or Telus and I will have to pay atleast $50 for a smartphone plan. I keep asking myself, is the SGSII worth paying $800, changing your carrier, and paying more every month on your phone plan?
Hope this helps.
I'm in Richmond Hill myself : )
I had pre -order from clove and handtec (both UK companies) but cancelled from handtec even though it was cheaper... they were changing dates way too much and doing it quietly too as in on their website only while Clove would send me emails every few days with any updates regarding my order and the phone itself AND if there's any changes at all they always ask if I want to cancel my order or not. That's worth the extra 15 pounds to me.
As for buying through US retailer, well... you can't cause this phone isn't out in US either. You are correct as it will work with AT&T in US and in Canada it'll work on Rogers/Telus/Bell/Fido/Virgin/Koodoo (all the subsidiaries of the big companies). it'll work on other bands too like wind mobile and such I think however, no 3G coverage there because of the band difference. Cost wise its around $750 incl. shipping.
If i were you i'd be in a very tough situation as well haha. But... I get the exact same plan for the same price (a little less actually) through rogers minus the unlimited Data. i have 500 mb and i never seem to go over 150 in a month so thats never close to being an issue. plan inclues unlimited text / voicemail / evenings starting at 5pm and unlimited evenings and weekends too.
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1. In theory the phone should work on Bell Mobility, Telus, and Rogers 3g network (850 MHz and 1900 MHz) as the SGSII has HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100.
2. Clove.co.uk, Handtec.co.uk, mobilecityonline.com (US), etc..
3. Warranty is Samsung only, so you have to send it back to samsung in uk. In terms of extended warranty there are third party options like SquareTrade.
4. Its around $700 CAD (clove and handtec), $730 US for mobilecityonline. Both are with shipping costs. However, the kicker is the import fees. You have to pay taxes (13% HST) on the original price of the phone when the phone arrives in Canada. so you will end up paying something around $800 CAD in total.
5. There is an option with imports where if the product is a gift worth less than $60 then there is no import fees charged. However, all three retailers listed above have refused to declare the product as a gift or worth lower than actual price.
At this point it seems like it might be a smart idea to wait but then again you never know how much the phone will cost when it arrives in Canada. The atrix is selling for $600 without contract so Im guessing SGSII will cost more.
I am going nuts trying to decide if I should preorder or not. As you can tell Im with Windmobile and today they announced new voice and data plans. Basically, now I am paying $35 for unlimited everything including data and voice. Now, if I buy the SGSII then I will have to move to Bell, Rogers, or Telus and I will have to pay atleast $50 for a smartphone plan. I keep asking myself, is the SGSII worth paying $800, changing your carrier, and paying more every month on your phone plan?
Hope this helps.
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shabs52 said:
If i were you i'd be in a very tough situation as well haha. But... I get the exact same plan for the same price (a little less actually) through rogers minus the unlimited Data. i have 500 mb and i never seem to go over 150 in a month so thats never close to being an issue. plan inclues unlimited text / voicemail / evenings starting at 5pm and unlimited evenings and weekends too.
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So you are saying that you get 500mb Data, unlimited text / voicemail / evenings starting at 5pm and unlimited evenings and weekends for around $35?
wow thats news to me, I actually dont mind 500mb data but I was under the impression that the minimum that you have to pay is $50 for smartphone plans with rogers. Please elaborate more on how much you actually pay.
If what you say is possible then that eliminates one of my worries. I dont mind changing carriers as rogers has better signal than wind. As far as the money for the actual phone, I can sell my current phone that will help me out.
well if i was to go with rogers' regular price for the closest plan its about $85 maybe a month. but even with that cant get 5pm evenings (earliest they have is 6pm) also for some of this they require you to activate a 3 year plan.
I get special rates from rogers thats why i end up paying under half the regular price which is why... im happy with them and didnt bother going to wind or any others
edit: also a few other things i get... enchaned text messaging and enhanced voicemail (whatever those are) and also super caller id.. whatever that is
I'd love to get this phone in Canada but I'd also hate to give up Wind... and waiting for an AWS version will probably take forever.
Just can't find a plan that comes even close to $40/mo unlimited EVERYTHING (even US calling which I use a lot) =(
youre not going to find one and also just so you know Wind Mobile I believe works on the same band as T mobile USA, i have the vibrant from T mobile and it works on wind.. 3g and everything. other than that if you dont need super fast internet access this will still work with Wind on Edge i believe.
$800 is really steep for a phone... but this one makes my mouth water. It probably won't be coming onto any of the big three until Q2-Q3. That's a lot of waiting... Yeah screw it I'm going to preorder this bad boy.
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$800 is really steep for a phone... but this one makes my mouth water. It probably won't be coming onto any of the big three until Q2-Q3. That's a lot of waiting... Yeah screw it I'm going to preorder this bad boy.
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I'll probably end up pre-ordering as soon as I get payment for the phone I'm selling. I'm really afraid of the import charges, we know about the duties and HST but I heard that FedEx charges handling fees (Brokerage and Disbursement) so I think I'll end up paying even more than $800.
Hola
I will be going ahead and ordering my S2 via Handtech hopefully sometime tomorrow (Tuesday). I'll be watching this forum closely to ensure those folks who ordered in the UK received their phones without issue/delay.
One other question:
Who should I use for shipping and handling? FedEx, UPS or DHL?
Thanks.
I live in SWO. Pre-ordered from Clove yesterday. Then Handtec posted the fact that they actually have stock. I'm expecting that it may take 1-2 weeks before I actually have it in my hands, so a day or two difference isn't going to kill me (though the anticipation anxiety hasn't kicked into overdrive yet Just hoping I don't have to wait for a 2nd batch to arrive before my order gets fulfilled!
Also looking forward to the first person that confirms 3G on Rogers with an actual handset! :-D
i ordered mine from gum. Should ship tomorrow ups express.
I cound't help it... I ordered from clove too. hope I still make the first shipment. don't wanna wait too long, the anticipation is crazy!!
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I see everyone is talking about ordering from Handtec / Clove..but has anyone tried Expansys?
Expansys charges 5% premium but does anyone know if they suffer from the same duty/import charges as Handtec / Clove?
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Expansys charges 5% premium but does anyone know if they suffer from the same duty/import charges as Handtec / Clove?
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That 5% turns into 7.5% at checkout page. Strange, what kind of "tax" is this?
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That 5% turns into 7.5% at checkout page. Strange, what kind of "tax" is this?
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When I added the Galaxy S II into the cart on Expansys.ca website...it shows this:
$709.51
* Tax 5%35.48
* Shipping Information 24.95
* CDN $769.94
So the 709.51 is basically 430 GBP (price from Clove/Handtec) converted to CAD...then Expansys adds a ~5% premium on top.
If you go back to the beginning of the thread, np231 says there may be import fees in addition to handling charges from FedEx/UPS etc. That's why I want to know if anyone had experience with Expansys and how much more I should expect to pay at the end of the day...
Wind doesn't have an EDGE network so I don't see how it would work at all on wind. They only have a 3G 1700/2100mhz network so basically you can only use this phone on the big 3 with their ****ty plans. Not sure how long it will be before a T-mobile variant of the SGS2 will hit the US, only then could it be possible for Wind users to get it.
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youre not going to find one and also just so you know
Wind Mobile I believe works on the same band as T mobile USA, i have the vibrant from T mobile and it works on wind.. 3g and everything. other than that if you dont need super fast internet access this will still work with Wind on Edge i believe.
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I'll let you all know just how badly I get bilked by Fedex/Canada Customs. My SGS II has shipped from Handtec and apparently due tomorrow in the Great White North via Fedex (though NOT holding my breath!). I'll be happy if it arrives by Friday (travelling next week and would love to have it!).
I generally only order from the US via USPS to avoid the brokerage/customs nightmare (rape!). In this case obviously not yet an option.
Considering you are in Montreal....I won't be surprised if you are slapped with the 13% GST+QST.
Glad I'm in Alberta
But yes, please keep us updated regarding import duties / handling charges.
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I'll let you all know just how badly I get bilked by Fedex/Canada Customs. My SGS II has shipped from Handtec and apparently due tomorrow in the Great White North via Fedex (though NOT holding my breath!). I'll be happy if it arrives by Friday (travelling next week and would love to have it!).
I generally only order from the US via USPS to avoid the brokerage/customs nightmare (rape!). In this case obviously not yet an option.
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Hi, I am a complete noob.
I am in india, but will stay in US for 4 years starting august 1. So, where is is better to buy this phone? In US or INDIA?
Also, if I buy a unlocked phone in India or US, do I have to root it? In other words, is a unlocked phone a rooted phone? Or is unlocking and rooting different things?
unlocking and rooting are 2 different things.
Unlocked = You can put any sim card in and it should work (almost) anywhere in the world
Rooted = You have administrator level access to all of the files on the phone, so you can edit, delete or add as you please
Almost guaranteed, the phone will not be rooted when you buy it, especially if you are buying it new. If you are buying along with a specific carrier's plan, chances are it won't be unlocked, but if you are paying full price (~$700 USD) it will almost surely be unlocked.
I'd advise buying the international version (there is no US version yet), because it will be unlocked and therefore work in the US with a US sim card.
international?
What is the international version?
If I buy a unlocked version, then after reachig US, I must buy a FREE phone from ATT and use that sim card in the galaxy s2 ... right? Will it work?
Also, i cannot use T-Mobile since they use 1700 frequency for 3g, and galaxy does not support it
gowtham.n.mail said:
What is the international version?
If I buy a unlocked version, then after reachig US, I must buy a FREE phone from ATT and use that sim card in the galaxy s2 ... right? Will it work?
Also, i cannot use T-Mobile since they use 1700 frequency for 3g, and galaxy does not support it
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The international version is the version sold outside of the US, mainly Europe and Asia. It has a exynos processor. The Indian version has a tegra 2 processor (which is a little slower). You should get the exynos version. But that's up to you.
Yes, it will only work on ATT. See here about plans...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1166543
Prepaid will be $50 (no tax), but might get bad throttled speeds. Not sure on this though.
If you go the contract, regular post-paid way. It will be $40 for 450 minutes + $15 for data + $10 for 1000 text messages + tax = $65 + tax, with tax it will be about $75. This is if you are using an international version. If you buy an ATT version you will have to pay more for data.
Thanks,
How do i get exynos in INDIA? I want to buy from amazon, but they dont ship to india . Where can i get it?
Or, can I go to US, buy it from amazon, and buy a prepaid $50 plan with some cheap phone, and use that sim in galaxy s2?
Which option do u recommend?
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The Indian version has a tegra 2 processor (which is a little slower)
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Are you sure ? How come no one has seen a tegra 2 SII till now ? There's no tegra 2 SII. Devices with tegra 2 processor are not called SII. Maybe you are talking about this device, which is galaxy Z.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9103_galaxy_r-3967.php
ImDonly1, You are an idiot. Please check your facts before you post something as stupid as what you did here. All galaxy s2 phones run on exynos processors.
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well but in usa , you will get almost cell for free with better plan.
Good luck
hey friend, your options are just few and quite easy if you are set on buying galaxy s2 only.. see you could get in india for Rs.31000 which will be an unlocked s2 that u can later bring with you to US where u can buy a used or brand new prepaid no.. otherwise you could order from amazon using this link:
amazon.com/Samsung-i9100-Unlocked-Smartphone-Touchscreen/dp/B004QTBQ2C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1310555675&sr=8-1
jst fill in the url, i cant post links yet
Its the Euro version/unlocked which should not be any problem also for u also and costs the same price... The only drawback i can think of is that wen you order from amazon you will not get a samsung warranty or be able to see the set before giving away you hard earned bucks unlike if you purchase from authorized dealer anywhere in india with warranty.
The third and last option you have is you could use your current phone for next month or so and wait till s2 is officially launched in US so you could get a nice 2 year plan which would be your last but relatively more efficient option since you mentioned you are surely going to stay for 2+ years..
The choice is yours and yours alone! but watever you decide, you sure will forget everything once u have the S2 all to yourself.. Sometimes its pays of to be patient! all the best buddy
I wont buy from amazon, because no warrenty. So, i have 2 options left...buy in india, or buy directly from ATT, after they launch.
Calculations ...
Option 1 (buying unlocked phone)
Cost of unlocked phone - $700
Cost of plan - $50 per month in prepaid. Assuming 2 year stay ($50 * 24 = $1200)
Cost of some dumb phone for prepaid - $10
SO total cost is 700+1200+10=$1910.
Option 2 (buy from ATT)
Cost (expected) of phone - $300
Cost of plan - $40 for voice, $10 for messaging, and $25 for 2 GB per month data plan. SO totally $75 + taxes = $80. For 2 years contract - $80 * 24 = 1920
SO total cost is 300+1920=$2220.
Thus, Option 1 is cheaper. Also in option 1 everything (including data) is unlimited .
Why is prepaid so much cheaper than postpaid!! Are there some disadvantages in prepaid that I dont know??
I heard that in prepaid, the 3G data speed will be slower that postpaid!! Is it TRUE !! ??
if i weighed my options like you then id definitely pick option 1 since in prepaid you can always keep a check on how much you are spending whereas i have noticed with postpaid ppl tend to get carried away even if they swore they wudn't at start.. just my opinion. and one more thing you should consider is that most places you would spend time usually has wifi connection and you can prioritize in s2 so that it always uses a wifi connection wen available over a 3g one as i have been doin.. will save a lot on data costs if it is not unlimited.. plus speed is generally faster i am guessing from my observation.. haha so u now know wat u must do!!! that is get a set in india and have no regrets after but i am still a new user of smartfone having switched from blackberry after many years.. it would be wise to wait and see what other users have to say as well since i am a very new member here and my advice wont seem much helpful..
^thanks
You ment internet is faster in wifi over 3g or internet being faster in postpaid over prepaid?
wifi over 3g.. prepaid vs postpaid i have no clue! btw the at&t plan as of now is only for samsung I997 Infuse 4G.. be warned that they are totally different phones and dont evn think of it being a substitute for S2.. i am not aware yet of the exact release of S2 in us officially with or without a plan so it would be wise to look into that otherwise i recommend you buy a warrantied s2 from india itself asap.. good luck buddy
Sorry for posting again ... my original post dissapered !!!
I have the following 2 options ... what do i do?
Calculations ...
Option 1 (buying unlocked phone)
Cost of unlocked phone - $700
Cost of plan - $50 per month in prepaid. Assuming 2 year stay ($50 * 24 = $1200)
Cost of some dumb phone for prepaid - $10
SO total cost is 700+1200+10=$1910.
Option 2 (buy from ATT)
Cost (expected) of phone - $300
Cost of plan - $40 for voice, $10 for messaging, and $25 for 2 GB per month data plan.
SO totally $75 + taxes = $80. For 2 years contract - $80 * 24 = 1920
SO total cost is 300+1920=$2220.
Thus, Option 1 is cheaper. Also in option 1 everything (including data) is unlimited .
Why is prepaid so much cheaper than postpaid!! Are there some disadvantages in prepaid that I dont know??
I heard that in prepaid, the 3G data speed will be slower that postpaid!! Is it TRUE !! ??
Also, I am buying the unlocked phone in INDIA, which uses the normal sized sim card. So, if ATT gives micro sim card, will it work in mine?
Here you go mate...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1166641
looks like the original thread went to then 2nd page ..
Anyway, can someone please reply to the query above?
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Cost of plan - $50 per month in prepaid. Assuming 2 year stay ($50 * 24 = $1200)
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Not true. AT&T only offers unlimited data to feature phones, not smartphones like the SGS2. Of course, you can always deceive AT&T and see if they notice. Your call.
yes, I think i can deceive ATT. Thats what many people say.
So, I will go for option 1 since it is cheaper. and buy an unlocked phone then buy a cheap prepaid phone from ATT, and then use that simcard in the unlocked galaxy s2.
Also, in the unlocked phone there is space for the normal size sim card. What if the prepaid phone from ATT has micro sim? How to make it work in the galaxy s2?
Is the internet speed slow for prepaid connections than postpaid?
The AT&T sim card fits the SGS2. The coverage is not quite the same for pre-paid plans. You gotta look it up and see if it affects you. It shouldn't in most metro areas. You get 4G (the AT&T non-LTE 4G) speeds.
I went into the AT&T store at told them I wanted a pre-paid plan. I didn't have to buy a pre-paid phone. They didn't even ask me what I kind of phone I had.
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I will stay at minneapolis ... and there is prepaid coverage there ..
So, u say that the 3g/4g speeds for prepaid is same as that of postpaid right?
Also, why is prepaid so much cheaper that postpaid? Are there some disadvantages with prepaid that i am not aware of?
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I will stay at minneapolis ... and there is prepaid coverage there ..
So, u say that the 3g/4g speeds for prepaid is same as that of postpaid right?
Also, why is prepaid so much cheaper that postpaid? Are there some disadvantages with prepaid that i am not aware of?
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someone please correct me if im wrong..but i was told by a at&t employee that..
a prepaid phone ..which gives unlimited everything does not apply to smartphones..
which is why i believe its cheaper. again, someone may correct me..not sure if the at&t employee was just feeding me BS.
gowtham.n.mail said:
So, u say that the 3g/4g speeds for prepaid is same as that of postpaid right?
Also, why is prepaid so much cheaper that postpaid? Are there some disadvantages with prepaid that i am not aware of?
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The speeds are the same FOR ME. Actually, faster with the pseudo AT&T 4G. However, buyer beware. Don't blame me if your mileage varies.
Why cheaper? Competition. Lots of carriers are doing it and AT&T wants a piece of the pre-paid pie. Plus, AT&T doesn't have to recoup the cost of their subsidized phones. But again, AT&T is not offering unlimited everything to the SGS2.
Personally, I see the SGS2 as a mobile computer/internet device and emergency phone. So with a pre-paid plan I don't have to subsidize everyone else if I don't talk all day on the phone and stream Netflix movies.
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a prepaid phone ..which gives unlimited everything does not apply to smartphones.
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True. But people do it because they can get away with it. Sticking it to da man!
Hi. Is it illegal? I am not a US citizen. I caome fro india. So, dont want to get into any leagal troubles.
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What if i buy a phone from ATT in contract, then not pay the compulsary $15 per month, and insted throw away that sim, and use some another sim? Can ATT take any action against me?
do it for free
there is an app from chainfire that can unlock galaxy s2... its in the marketplace
So, if i unlock the ATT phone, then can i stop paying ATT completely? including the monthly $15 for data? So, its like I got the phone very cheaply and then I dont pay anything to ATT later? Is it even possible?!!
Like the title says, I've looked in every T-Mobile store and they're not selling any since it's a "year old", just the S2. Went to Best Buy...they just sell Sprint and Verizon versions but you can't get them unless you get a contract with them. I've looked online, and I'm scared to purchase one because most just say "750" without the model at the end (for example 750T for T-Mobile). I've found a AT&T watch and was thinking of ordering it since most of you guys on here have said it's compatible with a T-Mobile sim, but you only get 2G speeds, or I can get prepaid such as Straight Talk or H20 as well. Any suggestions as to where I can purchase a T-Mobile Gear S? Can't find anything on Ebay or Amazon
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Like the title says, I've looked in every T-Mobile store and they're not selling any since it's a "year old", just the S2. Went to Best Buy...they just sell Sprint and Verizon versions but you can't get them unless you get a contract with them. I've looked online, and I'm scared to purchase one because most just say "750" without the model at the end (for example 750T for T-Mobile). I've found a AT&T watch and was thinking of ordering it since most of you guys on here have said it's compatible with a T-Mobile sim, but you only get 2G speeds, or I can get prepaid such as Straight Talk or H20 as well. Any suggestions as to where I can purchase a T-Mobile Gear S? Can't find anything on Ebay or Amazon
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where are you located? I'm asking because i can't find a sprint version anywhere around me (philadelphia) and i'm going crazy trying to figure out how to get the at&t one i've purchased to work standalone when i have sprint! It could be so much easier if i could just find a sprint version!
Leelouster said:
Like the title says, I've looked in every T-Mobile store and they're not selling any since it's a "year old", just the S2. Went to Best Buy...they just sell Sprint and Verizon versions but you can't get them unless you get a contract with them. I've looked online, and I'm scared to purchase one because most just say "750" without the model at the end (for example 750T for T-Mobile). I've found a AT&T watch and was thinking of ordering it since most of you guys on here have said it's compatible with a T-Mobile sim, but you only get 2G speeds, or I can get prepaid such as Straight Talk or H20 as well. Any suggestions as to where I can purchase a T-Mobile Gear S? Can't find anything on Ebay or Amazon
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There is a guy under this subforum selling a T-Mobile Gear S. Contact him?
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where are you located? I'm asking because i can't find a sprint version anywhere around me (philadelphia) and i'm going crazy trying to figure out how to get the at&t one i've purchased to work standalone when i have sprint! It could be so much easier if i could just find a sprint version!
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Purchase a prepaid sim for you att device and turn on call forwarding or use the prepaid number.
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where are you located? I'm asking because i can't find a sprint version anywhere around me (philadelphia) and i'm going crazy trying to figure out how to get the at&t one i've purchased to work standalone when i have sprint! It could be so much easier if i could just find a sprint version!
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I'm located in the bottom of Texas lol. There's Sprint versions at my Best Buy but no T-Mobile Lol. I'm thinking of just getting it from AT&T and opening up a contract with them for 10 bucks a month. :/ I saw some on E-Bay but I rather not risk it from there.
James.Markham0757 said:
There is a guy under this subforum selling a T-Mobile Gear S. Contact him?
Purchase a prepaid sim for you att device and turn on call forwarding or use the prepaid number.
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I did, but he never replied. As for the prepaid sim, I can't find none of what they were talking about in this forum. I've looked for H20 and StraightTalk at my Wal-Mart, but there's no H20, and with StraightTalk, I don't know what card to get. They spoke of one expiring after 90 days (maybe that was the H20?) but every card there expires after 30 days, even if you don't use all the texting and calling minutes.
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I'm thinking of just getting it from AT&T and opening up a contract with them for 10 bucks a month. :/ I saw some on E-Bay but I rather not risk it from there.
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The AT&T $10 device plan only works if you already have a family shared plan with them. You also can't use it on T-Mobile's Wearable plan because T-Mo locks this plan to IMEIs of T-Mo version Gear S or Gear S2 only.
The Gear S is already over a year old. Most places already cleared them out for Gear S2. eBay is probably your only bet for any device of this age.
Swappa website has some good deals on Smartwatches..
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The AT&T $10 device plan only works if you already have a family shared plan with them. You also can't use it on T-Mobile's Wearable plan because T-Mo locks this plan to IMEIs of T-Mo version Gear S or Gear S2 only.
The Gear S is already over a year old. Most places already cleared them out for Gear S2. eBay is probably your only bet for any device of this age.
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Damn...but if I use the AT&T watch with the AT&T plan, I can still forward calls to my T-Mobile phone right?
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Swappa website has some good deals on Smartwatches..
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Thanks man, I'll check it out
(Offer up) great app
Can you buy an AT&T and then buy an unlock code? It's only $20-$25 online for one.
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Can you buy an AT&T and then buy an unlock code? It's only $20-$25 online for one.
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Yes you can. I read that many people did that. AT&T is supposed to supply an unlock code if you call, but I've seen that many people had different outcomes. Some were able to get it, some had to keep on calling nad persisting, and others had no luck. Although beware that in unlocking the device, when you go to another carrier (such as T-Mobile) that it will have 2g or HSPA+ speeds instead of 3G or even 4G since the bands are different or something like that.
I sold my unlocked ATT gear S last month, because I managed to grab an LG watch Urbane 2nd edition LTE before they took them off the market. For what it's worth, I bought mine from ATT, had it unlocked by ATT, and used it on Tmobile with the wearables plan for a year. (As soon as I put the sim card in my LG watch, it did something to my wearables plan and i could never get it reinstated. In general, unlocked ATT Gear s devices no longer work with the $5 Tmo wearables plan, but with any other regular Tmo sim card.)
Anyhow, in New England, I was getting 3G speeds sometimes, if I recall correctly.
To get the ATT Gear S unlocked, you need to have been an ATT postpaid cell customer at some point, and provide that respective phone number to them. If you have a friend who is a customer, they could submit the unlock request for you as well.
Otherwise, ATT forces you to "wait 90 days" during which time you have to pay for a plan with them.
There was also an Ebay seller who was selling unlock codes for around $10 if memory serves me well.
By the way, the regular retail price for the ATT version is cheaper by $50 than Tmo's, so definitely worth going that route.
It would be unbelievably helpful if you'd let us know how much you love it =), on a side note I does anybody have a bricked Gear S? I'll buy it =)
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Otherwise, ATT forces you to "wait 90 days" during which time you have to pay for a plan with them.
There was also an Ebay seller who was selling unlock codes for around $10 if memory serves me well.
By the way, the regular retail price for the ATT version is cheaper by $50 than Tmo's, so definitely worth going that route.
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Yeah, AT&T's stupid 90 days plan. Way too much. I don't wanna be paying 50 dollars a month for a watch. I found a friend who has a watch that is 1 month old and was selling it so I brought it, and it's from T-Mobile too so it's a win, win. It's only 5 dollars a month (plus an addition 10 for insurance). AT&T is selling the watch right now for $199 outright. T-Mobile isn't selling it at all, but before they took it down it was going for $250. I went with T-Mobile because $199 plus tax comes out to $220. Then I got to put 30% down for AT&T's stupid plan plus an additional $20 or $30 dollars extra (forgot for what) which comes out to $76 dollars total. So add that to the $220. Then the following month I'm going to have to pay a one-time activation fee of $15 dollars, PLUS the service which is $50 dollars (but if you're already a customer with them it's $10 a month), PLUS if you haven't already finished paying off the watch, you're going to have to put down money for that before the 3 months is over. Too costly in my opinion. I just payed my friend $120 (cause he has $80 left due in his account so I'm paying off that) and then just the $15 bucks a month so I'm good.
I think my friend has a bricked Gear S, but he has to send that back since they gave him the one that I have right now lol.
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It would be unbelievably helpful if you'd let us know how much you love it =)
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If you mean the Urbane, it's mindblowingly awesome, with a battery life that's out of this world. My Gear S was great for the year I had it, but the Urbane is so much better; I've been using it daily for almost 3 months now.
The only updates Google needs to make is allow voice calls over BT and a way to manually update APN settings, both possible with the Gear S.
Don't buy an att gear s if you plan to use the android rom on it. Att locked the bootloader on their gear s and so far there is no way to unlock it so no rom for us.
I have a T-Mobile version and I shopped for it on my local Craigslist. You just have to be careful yet persistent. Ask for better photos and definitely take a copy of the ad with you when you go to check it out for hopefully your purchase. My seller had a warranty replacement and it is in near pristine condition. I have replaced his original watch band, thanks to eBay. And I do have a broke clip on the charger cradle that I will eventually replace as well.
Also, Swappa is an excellent place to purchase items. There's 2 sides, there's the Swappa.com and then there's Boneyard where you purchase stuff not able to be sold on regular Swappa like broken glass, missing parts and devices for parts. Google both. Hope this helps!! If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
Now, I did in fact have an AT&T branded Gear S that I tried, unsuccessfully, to get to operate on T-Mobile. I wanted the wearables sim card and I put T-mobile's in it. It would NOT work for me as I was told by many support levels (twitter, email, and phone) that the T-Mobile wearables sim card was not provisioned for the AT&T branded Gear S. I gave up and sent that version Gear S back, getting a full refund and purchased what I described in my opening of this post.
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I have a T-Mobile version and I shopped for it on my local Craigslist. You just have to be careful yet persistent. Ask for better photos and definitely take a copy of the ad with you when you go to check it out for hopefully your purchase. My seller had a warranty replacement and it is in near pristine condition. I have replaced his original watch band, thanks to eBay. And I do have a broke clip on the charger cradle that I will eventually replace as well.
Also, Swappa is an excellent place to purchase items. There's 2 sides, there's the Swappa.com and then there's Boneyard where you purchase stuff not able to be sold on regular Swappa like broken glass, missing parts and devices for parts. Google both. Hope this helps!! If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
Now, I did in fact have an AT&T branded Gear S that I tried, unsuccessfully, to get to operate on T-Mobile. I wanted the wearables sim card and I put T-mobile's in it. It would NOT work for me as I was told by many support levels (twitter, email, and phone) that the T-Mobile wearables sim card was not provisioned for the AT&T branded Gear S. I gave up and sent that version Gear S back, getting a full refund and purchased what I described in my opening of this post.
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I bought an AT&T branded gear S from swappable a couple of months ago and I am using it with my wearable sim card without a problem. I already had the plan though with a tablet and cut down the sim put it in the gear and called tmobile and they turned it into a data and phone line for me as it was only a data line.
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I bought an AT&T branded gear S from swappable a couple of months ago and I am using it with my wearable sim card without a problem. I already had the plan though with a tablet and cut down the sim put it in the gear and called tmobile and they turned it into a data and phone line for me as it was only a data line.
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NIce. I found a really good deal on a AT&T Gear S but not sure I want to get it because my luck isn't that good. lol So your AT&T Gear S works exactly the same on T-Mobile then? I don't have a tablet plan so not sure what I would have to do to go the route you did.
sweets55 said:
NIce. I found a really good deal on a AT&T Gear S but not sure I want to get it because my luck isn't that good. lol So your AT&T Gear S works exactly the same on T-Mobile then? I don't have a tablet plan so not sure what I would have to do to go the route you did.
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So far it's been working great. But I already had the plan so I don't know if it would work. Call tmobile and see if it could work. I mean they turned my data only plan into a phone line
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So far it's been working great. But I already had the plan so I don't know if it would work. Call tmobile and see if it could work. I mean they turned my data only plan into a phone line
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I know a T-Mobile manager. I called him today but he was off. He's worked his magic before. So let me get this straight your watch has it's own number and you get 4G speeds?