app2sd vs link2sd?
link2sd, you can keep application on intern storage, so you can unplug µsd card
Blouw73 said:
link2sd, you can keep application on intern storage, so you can unplug µsd card
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yes, but the linked apps might get messed up, if you pull the µsd card out, while the phone is turned on. better do that when your phone is turned off.
link2sd
Once app2sd is installed, every app gets installed to SD. With link2sd, you only move apps of your choice to sd.
I chose to leave Titanium Backup, Root Explorer and Fancy Widget in system memory. Every other app I moved to SD.
Link2sd
Edit: It is an application so you just install it like any other .apk (and with your ext* partition). You can choice the applications you want to link to your sd
I'd installed App2SD before seeing link2sd appeared around the internet.
I have no intention of reverting everything just for the sake of link2sd since both working the same principle only that link2sd have the option to choose which app to install where..
However, all my apps specially titanium backup, root explorer, fancy widget and etc are running fine even they all were installed in the sdcard. All I do is assuming I have that extra storage by default(app2sd installed) and leave it anonymously in the background.
This is just based on my experience and Opinion.
Link2SD hassle free, user configurable.
App2SD hassle to install, all apps are moved to SD(not user configurable)
Link2sd, no doubt
I prefer Link2SD !
Before I've trying to install app2sd but when I reboot (I use a class 2 SDcard ><') my home doesn't launch and my phone was unusable because of the forceclosed of Launcherpro... But now with Link2SD I let my home on the phone and link all the other applications
Finally Link2SD is a software ! you can remove it easier and safer than app2SD
Link2sd , without hesitation .
link2sd, I need to have the choice
Prefer Link2SD,have choice on my side.
another argument here: Link2SD can move apk and dex files only. Data folders remains on the phone. you will notice that the more apps you install, even though you move them to ext*, your internal storage will eventually get smaller.
App2sd moves everything, so you will save more space that way.
preference then. if you need more internal space, go for app2sd. if you need some apps on the internal storage like i do (widgets, utility tools like root explorer, call meter, poweramp), use Link2sd.
I use link2sd and it works well. I know on my phone storage is such an annoyance. So I am quite happy to use it.
I have a couple questions for you all.
I had the fat partition of my card become unreadable by my phone but the ext was fine but trying to reformat the fat partition I messed up the ext partition because without being able to mount the sd through the phone I could not get the computer to recognize it correctly to use a program like EASUS Partition Master and fearing regular windows format would kill both so I tried the phones format and it did the whole card too...a shame.
Is there an easy way to back up the fat and ext partition of your sd cards?
What is the highest class card that makes a difference on performance of apps?
When a card is linked to sd and data is still on phone is the cache as well and is there program that can link caches to sd card or something like that?
necrohades said:
another argument here: Link2SD can move apk and dex files only. Data folders remains on the phone. you will notice that the more apps you install, even though you move them to ext*, your internal storage will eventually get smaller.
App2sd moves everything, so you will save more space that way.
preference then. if you need more internal space, go for app2sd. if you need some apps on the internal storage like i do (widgets, utility tools like root explorer, call meter, poweramp), use Link2sd.
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This is just my opinion regarding the app2sd and link2sd.
I think the argument is like more on a performance vs space argument,
though link2sd only move apk and dex, since data is on a fast storage. the performance will not be affected.
I think you will not benefit much on app2sd, performance wise if you are using class 4 or lower sd. and might even force close application on class 2.
its not likely you'll install 90 to 100+ apps on your phone anyway.
but in end, its still a matter of preference.
no doubt , link2sd better
if you use like 80+ apps
i recommend apps2sd for 1 reason
backup and restore using apps like MyBackup pro is done easily by only one touch
BackUp app with Astro BackUp Manager and Link2SD functionary like a charm.
both apps are awesome but for my needs, link2sd is more practical......
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I have so many apps installed on my SD card using the builtin Gingerbread apps2sd that when I start my phone or switch from USB disk drive mode I can't access my SD card apps for about a minute or so while Android checks the SD card (or so I'm assuming).
Will switching to an Ext partition on my SD card make startup faster? It drives me nuts that when my phone reboots (which it tends to do when it overheats) it starts up pretty quick but I can only access the apps on the phone for the first minute or so.
Btw, I'm running CM7.1 nightly 213 for the Evo. Thanks!
Bump ... anyone have any experience?
To answer my own question, a resounding YES
I partitioned my SD card with Paragon Partition Manager using resize so I didn't lose data and formatted the new partition ext4. I used S2E which made the process super simple, although I had to move all of my SD card apps back to "internal phone memory" (now pointing to the sd-ext partition), but Titanium Backup made that batch job easy. Starting up apps are accessible MUCH quicker and I don't have to worry about widgets and keyboards being screwed up due to being on SD. DO IT!
I use DT App2sd, I can't remember the partition sizes of my SD but at Titanium Backup's initial page it says like this
SD Card: 6,64 GB (688 mb free)
SD Card (a2sd): 1,02GB (891mb free)
According to this figures, I should have a lot of space to use, but I can't move an app from internal to External. When I try it says "Failed to move app. There's not enough storage left" What can be the problem? And by the way, which partition on the card do they go into when I install applications? İnto SD-Ext or Swap or other normal using space left?
1.) Has the app been written to allow it to function from /sdcard?
2.) How big is the app?
3.)When you install by default, apps should go into the internal memory BUT this depends on the settings you made in CM7.1 There is a setting that allow you to specify where you want the app to be installed to cos CM7.1 has an inbuilt app2sd function (not darktremor's)
4.) Once you have a2sd enabled with an ext4 partition and you install an app into internal memory, the app will either go into your real internal memory or sd-ext (a2sd)
happily1986 said:
1.) Has the app been written to allow it to function from /sdcard?
2.) How big is the app?
3.)When you install by default, apps should go into the internal memory BUT this depends on the settings you made in CM7.1 There is a setting that allow you to specify where you want the app to be installed to cos CM7.1 has an inbuilt app2sd function (not darktremor's)
4.) Once you have a2sd enabled with an ext4 partition and you install an app into internal memory, the app will either go into your real internal memory or sd-ext (a2sd)
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1) It's not about only for a specific app, I can't move other apps as well. But other small sized apps can be move. And yes, all of them suitable to work from SD.
2) It's a game and about 10mb.
3) I had that settings (for install location) to Automatic and application moving is allowed too. So theres nothing wrong here.
4) I guessed so, then though I have plenty of spaces why I cant move them? Whats the problem? God, I hate such things.
Ok i take it that your sd-ext partition is working fine since Titanium Backup can see it. I would like you to set the install location to Internal. My idea is to force the apps to be installed in the sd-ext partition.
Next, i would like you to go to Titanium Backup>Batch>Move user apps to internal memory.
They should all be shunted to the sd-ext partition. the sd-ext partition is regarded as a virtual internal memory space now hence, the shift to internal.
Greetings,
I have my 2gb aria sd card partitioned with a 512mb ext3 partition for use with s2e and the rest partitioned as fat32 for data. When I download larger apps, I use cyanogen and move them to the sd card, however recently my sd card fat32 partition has been filling up with other data and I find myself needing to use more of the ext3 partition. However when I move apps with cyanogen back to the internal memory, I get out of memory errors in spite of having about 198mb of free internal memory and another 100mb available on the ext3 partition.
I am not entirely sure how s2e functions or if its even meant to be used in conjunction with cyanogen's apps2sd function, but the way I thought it worked was s2e virtually added the ext3 partition to the phones internal memory and so from Android's perspective it would just seem like the phone had 700mb internal memory instead of 200.
My question is how, if it is even possible, do I move the apps currently on the fat32 partition back to internal memory and back to the ext3 partition using s2e? Or, would it be better to not use s2e for apps at all and only use it to keep the cache? Or, would it be best to not use s2e at all and rely only on cyanogen?
Here is a screenshot of my apps menu which shows negative space. The out of space errors start showing up after I modify an app using cyanogen in some way which causes the negative numbers to appear.
The readings about how much free space is available from within "application settings" in Android might be inaccurate while you're using S2E. Instead, open the S2E application and go to Menu > Information to get accurate readings.
Personally, I use S2E to move applications to the sd-ext partition but leave everything else in internal memory. However you might have a much larger Dalvik cache if you have a lot more installed applications than I do, so that might not work for you.
S2E and the built-in FAT32 apps2sd should work together without any problems. When you move an application from "SD card" to "internal" (via built-in apps2sd), it's actually moving it from FAT32 to sd-ext (if S2E is configured to move applications to the sd-ext partition). You don't have to do anything special for this to work like this.
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drumist said:
The readings about how much free space is available from within "application settings" in Android might be inaccurate while you're using S2E. Instead, open the S2E application and go to Menu > Information to get accurate readings.
Personally, I use S2E to move applications to the sd-ext partition but leave everything else in internal memory. However you might have a much larger Dalvik cache if you have a lot more installed applications than I do, so that might not work for you.
S2E and the built-in FAT32 apps2sd should work together without any problems. When you move an application from "SD card" to "internal" (via built-in apps2sd), it's actually moving it from FAT32 to sd-ext (if S2E is configured to move applications to the sd-ext partition). You don't have to do anything special for this to work like this.
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Why is it if I try to put back the application to back to the phone application storage.My Sd card memory remains the same.Example I move games back to internal memory.My sd card memory still remains at 4.2mb which is very low at the moment.
is there an updated guide to using s2E and apps2SD?
I just want to that the phone will install automatically apps in the SD card and not in the phone memory? what's the best way to do that?
CaptainMaki said:
is there an updated guide to using s2E and apps2SD?
I just want to that the phone will install automatically apps in the SD card and not in the phone memory? what's the best way to do that?
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1) Install S2E.
2) Open S2E and check 'Applications' and 'Dalvik cache', then reboot.
3) Go to Settings > Cyanogenmod settings > Application. Make sure "install location" is set to Internal. (That may seem counter-intuitive, but that's the way S2E works. If you use External, it will put it on the FAT32 partition.)
4) Go to Settings > Applications > Manage applications > SD card (at the top). Go to each app that has a checkmark next to it, select them one by one and click "Move to phone", then go back until you don't have any checked. That also might seem counter-intuitive, but you're moving them from the FAT32 partition to the ext partition, which is what you want.
That's pretty much it.
and from that moment on everything will be install on the card automatically?
also isn't S2E built into cyanogen ? I've read something about it.
CaptainMaki said:
and from that moment on everything will be install on the card automatically?
also isn't S2E built into cyanogen ? I've read something about it.
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Yes to your first question. From that point on, you never have to think about it again and everything "just works".
Yes, S2E is "built in" to Cyanogenmod in the sense that you do not have to flash any special modifications to your ROM in order to get S2E working. You only need to install the app from the market. With other apps2sd methods out there, you have to make modifications to your ROM through a flashable zip in order for it to work.
The more accurate way to word it is that Cyanogenmod has support for S2E built-in.
Now I get it. helps a lot!
Hi
i just rooted my sgs2 and i got 16gb external sd card, i have seen lots of good apps and i want to install them but before that i have read that some people recomend to install apps2sd to save space on the phone but other said that with that amount of space you dont need to install this app, also i readed that some roms dont support the app, so its good idea to install apps2sd???
I really like apps and i will check 3 or 5 roms. If its a good a idea, should i install first, before any other app??
Greetings from MX
skaarax said:
Hi
i just rooted my sgs2 and i got 16gb external sd card, i have seen lots of good apps and i want to install them but before that i have read that some people recomend to install apps2sd to save space on the phone but other said that with that amount of space you dont need to install this app, also i readed that some roms dont support the app, so its good idea to install apps2sd???
I really like apps and i will check 3 or 5 roms. If its a good a idea, should i install first, before any other app??
Greetings from MX
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I don't know apps2sd.
But it sounds like it moves your apps to the external sd card.
That can also be done with stock Android system: Setting > Applications > SD card.
Then click on the app you want to move and say move to sd card.
I had some apps on my external sd card, but some apps are loaded a little bit later/slower, when they are on the external sd card.
So, I recommend that all apps, which you need very often and especially direct after booting the phone, should stay on the internal sd card.
And after flashing some "early" ICS Rom versions, I lost my apps which were on the external sd card.
I had to re-install them from Play store.
But this was only an issue of some ICS ROMs/kernels, and should be fixed now.
Anyway, that caused me to move all apps back to the internal sd card.
I just want to be on the "safe side" ;-)
you should absolutely not install app2sd (the app of that name), because the functionality is already present in all roms.
in settings -> apps you can move apps.
however, in contrast to the previous post, apps are moved between the /data/ partition of the internal sd card and the /sdcard/ partition of the internal sd card.
as you might know, /data/ has 2GB, /sdcard/ has about 12GB. You can check on your current storage space occupation in settings -> storage.
if you have enough free space on data, leave your apps there, as sdcard is a universal storage space, that can also contain music, photos, videos and so on and since this space is also accessible to users that are not rooted, it is more versatile and therefor more valuable.
Since both partitions are on the same sd card, you don't have to worry about speed differences.
After moving some apps using apps2sd I had to restore a nandroid because it messed up my system.
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great i wont install apps2sd, but now what kind of files or info is recommended to be in the external SDcard?
I have on the external sd card my movies, music, photos and videos recorded with the phone camera, my titanium backup folder, few custom rom zip files, nandroids etc.
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^Ditto. Keep your media and big files on external SD, keep your apps on the internal app memory if you can (its around 2gb in size, unless you go over that there is no need to put apps on SD).
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Pretty much a obvious question for most people . Do install it ! It moves apps to SD ( wow ) , clearing space for many many other stuff . So , why not install it ?
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well iam fully loaded an my opinion is the app notifies u wen u install a app,but on the hard core side wen many apps r moved to sd ,ive crashd sometimes..i think it was better if there was a option to store apps directly on the ext sd card instead of phone or int sd card...
Try GL to SD from the market, posted a threat like this a month ago and someone recommend me this.
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Dear Masters,
Need your help again.
I am using the application LINK2SD for transferring my applications to SD card. But what I see is, there is some memory still used from the phone memory even after moving that application.
So, I want to know what can be the reason for that and is there any way to move that data part to SD card?
Please do guide because as per me this is not making any sense in rooting the device as still my phone memory gets low.
Hope that solution gets resolved as always.
Chin2.
Sadly Link2SD cannot link app data, and so internal memory will still be taken up by this. The only way around it is to install JaggyRom (or else install a custom kernel with ext2/3/4 support and a data2SD script, but JaggyRom would be simpler I think) and use it's app2SD functionality instead of Link2SD.
There are various ways to move app data to SD, but they all seem to require the second partition on your SD card to be an ext partition, rather than a FAT partition, and ext partitions are not supported by the stock kernel. I have yet to come across any app or script which will move app data to a FAT formatted 2nd SD card partition.
Thanks
SifJar,
Thanks for your reply, I have already got JaggyRom in my HTC explorer and also downloaded APP2SD from play store, will this suffice? Or I need to add any Kernel or anything like that?
And what about the partitioning of SD card? can you put some light on that as I am a newbie to Android.
Thanks once again.
Chin2.
If you have JaggyRom, you don't need any app from Play Store. It comes with A2SDGUI preinstalled and has an apps2SD script already configured. All you need to do is create a second partition on your SD card. You need to connect your SD card to a computer (via a card reader, NOT your phone), get a partition manager (e.g. MiniTool Partition Wizard) and shrink your current FAT32 partition. Then make a new partition (not sure which is the best format, I think ext4, but ext2 and ext3 should work too) and make sure you also make this partition primary. (So both partitions will be primary). You'll want to make this partition reasonably large. Mine is about 700MB and I use about 500MB roughly with about 85 apps installed.
Once this is done, put it in your phone and start it. Then use A2SDGUI to move apps to SD card (don't move system apps, I don't think it will allow you to anyway), and I think it should automatically move any new apps you install in the future.
chin2h said:
Dear Masters,
Need your help again.
I am using the application LINK2SD for transferring my applications to SD card. But what I see is, there is some memory still used from the phone memory even after moving that application.
So, I want to know what can be the reason for that and is there any way to move that data part to SD card?
Please do guide because as per me this is not making any sense in rooting the device as still my phone memory gets low.
Hope that solution gets resolved as always.
Chin2.
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It is normal to have some kilobytes left there.I have a sensation and it always leaves some data on the phone and it isn't a lot.
The stock kernal can support ext2 partition so even without jaggyrom u can do it.
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mohan1331 said:
The stock kernal can support ext2 partition so even without jaggyrom u can do it.
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Are you sure? I have never seen that anywhere else, everywhere else says stock kernel only supports FAT32.
Low internal memory
I had Recently installed Jaggyrom for my explorer but having application problems.I had Already Created ext2 partion and Fat32 both are primary.I have also Enabled app2sd on sd card but application still consumes my Internal memory.Please Help me out !
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chin2h said:
Dear Masters,
Need your help again.
I am using the application LINK2SD for transferring my applications to SD card. But what I see is, there is some memory still used from the phone memory even after moving that application.
So, I want to know what can be the reason for that and is there any way to move that data part to SD card?
Please do guide because as per me this is not making any sense in rooting the device as still my phone memory gets low.
Hope that solution gets resolved as always.
Chin2.
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Follow this guide
http://androidgamingcentre.blogspot.com/2013/01/trick-how-to-increase-internal-memory.html?m=1
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Have you made ext-2 partition on your sd card ?