This may be a newb-ish question, but I was wondering if it's possible and how to make a backup (including kernel) with odin. If not, how would one go about doing so? I have a very nice setup right now with a custom kernel and a heavily modified stock rom that I don't want to lose, but I also want to try out the voodoo lag fix with ext4.
EDIT: If this has been addressed somewhere else, please post a link for me. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Use ROMmanager is has option to backup ROM you can download from the market.
It save your backup image to your internal SD card.
It also comes with clockwork recovery.
some info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734164
demo23019 said:
Use ROMmanager is has option to backup ROM you can download from the market.
It save your backup image to your internal SD card.
It also comes with clockwork recovery.
some info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734164
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My understanding is that rom manager does not backup the kernel. What I really want is a way to create a full backup of my entire phone, not just the rom and apps/settings/etc. It seems to me that odin should be capable of such functionality.
I heard once kernel is on it's on for good and independent of rom somehow.. so only way to get rid of kernel is by pushing it out with another- you should be fine with it, just back up your rom in clockwork
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My understanding is that rom manager does not backup the kernel.
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i missed that in your post but yea it doesnt back it up
This is great and all, but I really want a full system dump that I can flash back to my phone when those OH **** moments happen. Kernel and all. I just got odin working, and I really like the idea of being able to load up a full system backup and being back to where I am right now in a matter of minutes.
jereader said:
This is great and all, but I really want a full system dump that I can flash back to my phone when those OH **** moments happen. Kernel and all. I just got odin working, and I really like the idea of being able to load up a full system backup and being back to where I am right now in a matter of minutes.
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I don't know of anyway to do what you want to do. Best thing I could say is do a Nandroid back up, that would take care of everything but your kernal. If you screw something up just flash back to stock with odin, flash the rom you were using then restore with nandroid.
This is why questions get posted in the dev section. Devs (AKA the people who know this ****) don't read the q&a section.
Go post it in developer section just make note that you searched and tried asking in Q&A and got no answer.... so you dont get reamed
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I just got odin working, and I really like the idea of being able to load up a full system backup and being back to where I am right now in a matter of minutes.
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I can see asking just to have some learning experience with Odin but seriously dont see how backing up everything with Odin is any faster/better than nandroid.
For one restoring with Odin requires you to be hooked up to PC. Nandroid restore can be done from your phone with backup from internal SD card and it takes mins to restore. And you can store your favorite kernel .zip file on internal SD as well and takes like 5 secs to flash.
I rarely, if ever, find myself tinkering with roms and such unless I'm at my computer, and I do keep nandroid backups, but I like the idea of having a comprehensive backup that I can load up and flash quickly. I actually find flashing with odin to be substantially faster than nandroid.
I know we all get to messing around trying to add "cool new feature x" and next thing you know something is hosed. This, to me is why a custom odin backup would be ideal.
I think I will go ahead and ask in the dev section, but thank you guys for the suggestions. Like I said, any help is appreciated.
I am pretty much trying to double check and make sure I have done everything needed before installing a custom ROM. I have a LG P509 from T-Mobile. I rooted my phone and backed everything up on my SD card using Titanium Pro. Then I installed a custom recovery (Thunderbird) following instructions from the forums. From recovery I did a Nand backup. I chose Nand+extra+android_secure. (I am unsure if that was the right option to choose, if not can I just delete the nandroid folder from my SD and repeat the process the right way?). I replaced then lost my original boot animation before backing up, does that really matter? I was reading about a custom ROM and it said something about "requiring AMON_RA recovery". I used thunderg and was wondering the difference, if I should install it and how to do so (if its the same process/where to find the files)? From everything I have done I should be able to recover to pretty much my stock phone, correct? One last question, does installing ROM and/or kernals completely erase, reformat my SD card? I have read up a ton but some things haven't been fully clear to me. I know these questions have probably been answered a million times so I thank you for all the help and insite! If I missed or forgot some things please let me know as well, thanks.
You are ready the method to back up also fine now just download rom u like and flash it.
No installing rom doesn't format ur sdcard. But some rom requires u too partition ur sdcard that's where sdcard gets formatted.
The recoverry u install is old I think u should flash new ones like amonra or cloakwork but be aware that the nandroid backup of different recovery is not compatible with each other.
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rustedashes said:
I am pretty much trying to double check and make sure I have done everything needed before installing a custom ROM. I have a LG P509 from T-Mobile. I rooted my phone and backed everything up on my SD card using Titanium Pro. Then I installed a custom recovery (Thunderbird) following instructions from the forums. From recovery I did a Nand backup. I chose Nand+extra+android_secure. (I am unsure if that was the right option to choose, if not can I just delete the nandroid folder from my SD and repeat the process the right way?). I replaced then lost my original boot animation before backing up, does that really matter? I was reading about a custom ROM and it said something about "requiring AMON_RA recovery". I used thunderg and was wondering the difference, if I should install it and how to do so (if its the same process/where to find the files)? From everything I have done I should be able to recover to pretty much my stock phone, correct? One last question, does installing ROM and/or kernals completely erase, reformat my SD card? I have read up a ton but some things haven't been fully clear to me. I know these questions have probably been answered a million times so I thank you for all the help and insite! If I missed or forgot some things please let me know as well, thanks.
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first if u want amonra orelse clockwork which can be found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1024838 just place the file in ur sd card root and flash from recovery then reboot. DONE! u can find the latest amonra recovery here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065197.
now when u install a new rom and wipe ur sd card then obvious that it wipes ur sd completely as some rom require to create ext partition so keep all your backup safe in pc too.
Boot animation is not an issue at all.
as for the backup nand we normally choose nand+android secure (in case no ext partition) and nand +android secure+ext (in case of ext parttion) i am not sure about the exact lines as different recovery might have differnt option type but moreorless they are same.
note:if u flash any other recovery like amonra or clockwork it is better to create a new backup using the latest recovery
I'm about to flash my first rom too. After reading alot and trying to undestand all those procedure is hard, as english is not my primary language. Recently I have install root and install costum recovery 1.2 from terminal emulator and did some nandroid backups. Also did a stock recovery backup.
My phone is stock and my provider is Telus. Do I have to unlock the phone or anything similar before flashing a new rom?
Not sure if it works on a locked phone, guess it will.
Just give it a shot, you can restore your nandbackup any time if it fails.
Hi
I would like to install mik's cm7 ROM but there are some things which I did not understand (never installed custom ROMs before, so I'm a noob):
- which recovery should I use? Amonra or Clockwork? (some explanations here contradict others, so it's not clear to me: should I copy in my SD card root both recovery.img and signed_recovery files? Because in the clockworkmod recovery topic I only found the archive containing the recovery.img file, no signed_recovery anywhere. Also in the ROM Manager app there is the option Flash ClockworkMod Recovery - can I flash a custom recovery just by pressing this option?)
- do I need to partition my SD card for this ROM? If it's necessary, how should I do it best? I mean, I was thinking at 32mb cache, 1mb ext2 or 4 and the rest fat32. And what is the real use of this partitioning?
Sorry for asking a lot of silly questions, but there is no real full tutorial for noobs here, and reading all the explanations spread around the forum is kinda confusing.
Thanks in advance
Thanks. I went ahead and flashed to the new recovery, worked perfect, and made new backups. Just waiting to get to a computer to backup to PC.
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Not sure if it works on a locked phone, guess it will.
Just give it a shot, you can restore your nandbackup any time if it fails.
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I'm not going to just give a try as my knowledge about the whole thing about flashing is new to me. I don't want to brick another O1 So many user here and no straight answer, wow!
I just want the right tools to proceed to flash as smooth as it can be.
Again do I have to unlocked the phone or do anything else before flashing a first custom rom? The phone is stock, beside root and custom recovery.
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I'm not going to just give a try as my knowledge about the whole thing about flashing is new to me. I don't want to brick another O1 So many user here and no straight answer, wow!
I just want the right tools to proceed to flash as smooth as it can be.
Again do I have to unlocked the phone or do anything else before flashing a first custom rom? The phone is stock, beside root and custom recovery
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This thread may give you some insite. I do not know if its what your looking for but might help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075525
martymart18t said:
Again do I have to unlocked the phone or do anything else before flashing a first custom rom? The phone is stock, beside root and custom recovery.
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From what I've read here it works only with P509 ROMs; P500 ROMs don't work.
wrong please delete it.
Hi all, I'm preparing to flash a ROM for the first time and decided to choose the Das Bamf remix 2.05 beta 6 that just barely came out. Now keep in mind I've -NEVER- flashed a ROM before so I've been reading ALOT trying to wrap my head around all this so I know for sure what I'm doing. I manually rooted the phone several weeks ago with ADB and the command sequences in a command terminal and now I want to mod it further.. so I took a look at the direction in the thread and I have a few questions and I'm sorry, I'm a nub,, so bear with me,... Copied from the thread...
Things to know:
A FULL WIPE IS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!
What is the best way to do this?
Want a smooth camera? Overclock to 1.4ghz. This is the trick others are using to make the camera smooth in their rom
I understand you can use setCPU for this but others have said the Kernel seems to OC itsef a bit and not to use setcpu... which way is best to do this?
Rom Manager seems to cause corruption issues, flash the ROM manually via clockwork.
I did install Rom Manager and bought the premium version. Now I shouldn't be usign it? and I rooted so I have clockwork installed but not sure how I'm supposed to use it to manually with it.
I appreciate any and all help.. even a good link to how to manually flash with clockwork would be fine as well, I don't mind a little reading to get a better understanding! thanks!
seabhac said:
Hi all, I'm preparing to flash a ROM for the first time and decided to choose the Das Bamf remix 2.05 beta 6 that just barely came out. Now keep in mind I've -NEVER- flashed a ROM before so I've been reading ALOT trying to wrap my head around all this so I know for sure what I'm doing. I manually rooted the phone several weeks ago with ADB and the command sequences in a command terminal and now I want to mod it further.. so I took a look at the direction in the thread and I have a few questions and I'm sorry, I'm a nub,, so bear with me,... Copied from the thread...
Things to know:
A FULL WIPE IS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!
What is the best way to do this?
Want a smooth camera? Overclock to 1.4ghz. This is the trick others are using to make the camera smooth in their rom
I understand you can use setCPU for this but others have said the Kernel seems to OC itsef a bit and not to use setcpu... which way is best to do this?
Rom Manager seems to cause corruption issues, flash the ROM manually via clockwork.
I did install Rom Manager and bought the premium version. Now I shouldn't be usign it? and I rooted so I have clockwork installed but not sure how I'm supposed to use it to manually with it.
I appreciate any and all help.. even a good link to how to manually flash with clockwork would be fine as well, I don't mind a little reading to get a better understanding! thanks!
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Wipe in clockwork. factory reset/cache/dalvik cache to do a full wipe. the kernel, depending on which one it is, is slightly over clocked. also rom manager does cause problems when installing roms. download them on your pc, or browser via the phone, place on teh root of the sd card (not in a folder) and flash in clock work
seabhac said:
Hi all, I'm preparing to flash a ROM for the first time and decided to choose the Das Bamf remix 2.05 beta 6 that just barely came out. Now keep in mind I've -NEVER- flashed a ROM before so I've been reading ALOT trying to wrap my head around all this so I know for sure what I'm doing. I manually rooted the phone several weeks ago with ADB and the command sequences in a command terminal and now I want to mod it further.. so I took a look at the direction in the thread and I have a few questions and I'm sorry, I'm a nub,, so bear with me,... Copied from the thread...
Things to know:
A FULL WIPE IS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!
What is the best way to do this?
Want a smooth camera? Overclock to 1.4ghz. This is the trick others are using to make the camera smooth in their rom
I understand you can use setCPU for this but others have said the Kernel seems to OC itsef a bit and not to use setcpu... which way is best to do this?
Rom Manager seems to cause corruption issues, flash the ROM manually via clockwork.
I did install Rom Manager and bought the premium version. Now I shouldn't be usign it? and I rooted so I have clockwork installed but not sure how I'm supposed to use it to manually with it.
I appreciate any and all help.. even a good link to how to manually flash with clockwork would be fine as well, I don't mind a little reading to get a better understanding! thanks!
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Sounds like you read up on the topic. Thank you. My only advice is that the gb roms all have tiny little bugs in them. Read up and if you don't care go for it.
If you want a completely stable phone... Stick with a group Rom. If you want all the cool new features and don't mind working around a few bugs... Go gb. Also make.sure to use the correct radio. Probably the MR 2!
Good luck.
seabhac said:
Hi all, I'm preparing to flash a ROM for the first time and decided to choose the Das Bamf remix 2.05 beta 6 that just barely came out. Now keep in mind I've -NEVER- flashed a ROM before so I've been reading ALOT trying to wrap my head around all this so I know for sure what I'm doing. I manually rooted the phone several weeks ago with ADB and the command sequences in a command terminal and now I want to mod it further.. so I took a look at the direction in the thread and I have a few questions and I'm sorry, I'm a nub,, so bear with me,... Copied from the thread...
Things to know:
A FULL WIPE IS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!
What is the best way to do this?
Want a smooth camera? Overclock to 1.4ghz. This is the trick others are using to make the camera smooth in their rom
I understand you can use setCPU for this but others have said the Kernel seems to OC itsef a bit and not to use setcpu... which way is best to do this?
Rom Manager seems to cause corruption issues, flash the ROM manually via clockwork.
I did install Rom Manager and bought the premium version. Now I shouldn't be usign it? and I rooted so I have clockwork installed but not sure how I'm supposed to use it to manually with it.
I appreciate any and all help.. even a good link to how to manually flash with clockwork would be fine as well, I don't mind a little reading to get a better understanding! thanks!
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I only use ROM Manager to reboot into ClockworkMod Recovery. It is the second option when you open ROM Manager. My method of flashing a new ROM (performing a full wipe plus a few steps):
1. Reboot into ClockworkMod Recovery from ROM Manager.
2. Use Nandroid to backup your current configuration. Select backup and restore and then backup.
3. Select wipe data/factory reset. This will wipe all applications, contacts, text messages, bookmarks, etc. There are ways to back this information up (Titanium Backup for applications), but I will not go into full detail here.
4. Select wipe cache partition.
5. Select advanced and then wipe dalvik cache. (Most people recommend doing steps 4 and 5 three times in order to ensure it was done.)
6. Also in the advanced menu, select wipe battery stats. (You should do this when charged 100%, recommended for any new ROM flash.)
For some reason, if you flash in ROM Manager it can corrupt the ROM/flash. To avoid this, always use ClockworkMod Recovery.
If the ROM you flash utilizes one of Imoseyon's kernels (which BAMF does), you can use the speedtweak.sh method in terminal emulator (download from Market) descriped in Imoseyon's kernel thread. With a BAMF ROM, none of this is required. You can utilize the included BAMF Toolkit to overclock/underclock and set the governor. The Toolkit also includes a terminal emulator if you wish to try the speedtweak.sh method.
The above steps should be followed when flashing a new ROM. When upgrading versions of the same ROM, you can generally perform a minimal wipe. My understanding of a minimal wipe is the cache and dalvik cache only (three times).
Hope I didn't leave anything out. If so, others can correct me.
Thank you for describing this.. I watched several videos and read up alot but I don't want to mess up anything and do ti right.. I've got the BAMF remix 2.05 version 6 on my root directory on the SD card now and I'll wait till the phone is at full charge before running thr0ough this procedure. Thank you once more wool!
seabhac said:
Thank you for describing this.. I watched several videos and read up alot but I don't want to mess up anything and do ti right.. I've got the BAMF remix 2.05 version 6 on my root directory on the SD card now and I'll wait till the phone is at full charge before running thr0ough this procedure. Thank you once more wool!
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You will also have to flash the MR2 radio. There is a thread in the Development Forum. If you search the thread, you should be able to come up with the method to do this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1115714
I flashed the ROM first, pulled the battery, and then booted in hboot (volume down plus power button). From there, hboot should find the radio and update. Most importantly, make sure the radio file you put on the root of your SD Card is named 'PG05IMG.zip' If you have Windows 7, make sure the .zip is not in there twice. By default, Windows 7 does not show file extensions.
to be safe with ur download make sure to check the md5
command in terminal and adb is
# /system/xbin/busybox md5sum /sdcard/so-so
i think.. lol
checking the md5 ensures ur download is legit.. i had a couple bad downloads causing bootloop.
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alluzzion2o9 said:
to be safe with ur download make sure to check the md5
command in terminal and adb is
# /system/xbin/busybox md5sum /sdcard/so-so
i think.. lol
checking the md5 ensures ur download is legit.. i had a couple bad downloads causing bootloop.
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Easy way with the MD5 I found is to download AFV (Android File Verifier) from market. I download the ROM from xda app onto phone, run AFV on ROM from phone and verify MD5 while also having thread up on computer. Seems easier with those long numbers.
I recently rooted my phone and flashed the TWRP recovery for it as it was recommended on IRC. One of my favorite apps when I had my rooted 4G was Rom Manager. It allowed me to easily backup and flash roms whenever I pleased.
Is there something similar to that for TWRP? Rom Manager requires having Clockwork Mod recovery to use. Also what are the advantages / disadvantages if any to either recovery?
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I like doing everything manually from recovery myself. The advantages of TWRP of CWM is the ease of access of certain options in the menus. I love having the wipe cache and dalvik cache as an option in the install zip menu. You can also change the theme easily. I like the backup options in the Nandroid menu and the fact that it backs up your wimax partition. There are many advantages in TWRP over CWM imo. It is designed for the Evo 3D natively and CWM is a port, so it's options are not designed for the Evo 3D. TWRP is just laid out better and you don't have to scroll through the work no 8 times just to wipe cache. Rom Manager is nice, but even when I did use CWM on my NS4G, I never, ever used the app because I just feel safer doing things manually.
All this is a matter of opinion, so it ultimately is up to you. Maybe the ultimate and best reason to shoose TWRP over CWM is because when you go into the Wipe Menu there is a roll of toilet paper in the background.
There working on something similar to rom manager
Instead of making a new thread ill go ahead and ask here. I'm currently doing a Titanium Backup of my apps / data. I'm also going to do a nandroid backup using TWRP since I've decided to dive into a rom. Are there any other recommended steps I should take before I flash? I hear talk of kernals but know nothing about them.
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To be more de specific this is the rom I plan on using.
[ROM][8-21-11][2.3.4] gbsense-e3d-deck [0.5]
I read in his thread there was only 2 kernals for 2.3.4, stock and another custom that's floating around.
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If you are going to a 2.3.4 Rom I would stick with the stock kernel that comes with the Rom for now. Until HTC releases the source for the 2.3.4 kernel we won't have any custom kernels to flash. I would suggest searching here and on Google what is a Linux kernel and what benefits a custom kernel can give you in Android.
Also, if you flash an incompatible kernel it will at least break things like wifi, sms, mms and other functions of the phone and at most completely make your phone unbootable and you will have to nandroid restore.
housry23 said:
If you are going to a 2.3.4 Rom I would stick with the stock kernel that comes with the Rom for now. Until HTC releases the source for the 2.3.4 kernel we won't have any custom kernels to flash. I would suggest searching here and on Google what is a Linux kernel and what benefits a custom kernel can give you in Android.
Also, if you flash an incompatible kernel it will at least break things like wifi, sms, mms and other functions of the phone and at most completely make your phone unbootable and you will have to nandroid restore.
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So in other words i can just flash this Rom and i'm good to go.
Yep. The Rom's always include a kernel. If you want a custom kernel, that is a separate flash. Some Rom's include a custom kernel and some include stock kernels. I will say that I am using a Rom based off the HTC 2.3.4 update and has the stock kernel and it is actually very smooth and runs fast. I really am not sure overclocking is necessary on this phone, especially after all of the Sprint and HTC bloat are taken out. Though I can understand why people want and do overclock, but seriously benchmarks don't mean shiz to me. How the phone runs in real time use and how the battery performs are my greatest concerns.
I had the same question as the OP. It looks like i won't be using rom manager. Can you point me to a step-by-step on rom flashing using TWRP? Thanks. All google searches seem to return flashing "how to's" using CWM Rec.
meccadon123 said:
I had the same question as the OP. It looks like i won't be using rom manager. Can you point me to a step-by-step on rom flashing using TWRP? Thanks. All google searches seem to return flashing "how to's" using CWM Rec.
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curious about this too, i've searched here and googled with no luck. everything i find only explains step by step with rom manager/clockwork
i'm assuming you just enter recovery, select install zip -> choose zip to flash -> select your custom rom.zip from the list and then let it do it's thing.
just want to be sure so hopefully someone can confirm or post proper steps.
meccadon123 said:
Can you point me to a step-by-step on rom flashing using TWRP? Thanks. All google searches seem to return flashing "how to's" using CWM Rec.
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finally found someone who would actually respond. not step by step per say, but i you read this post you should get the idea
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16982135&postcount=4402
meccadon123 said:
I had the same question as the OP. It looks like i won't be using rom manager. Can you point me to a step-by-step on rom flashing using TWRP? Thanks. All google searches seem to return flashing "how to's" using CWM Rec.
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jorts said:
curious about this too, i've searched here and googled with no luck. everything i find only explains step by step with rom manager/clockwork
i'm assuming you just enter recovery, select install zip -> choose zip to flash -> select your custom rom.zip from the list and then let it do it's thing.
just want to be sure so hopefully someone can confirm or post proper steps.
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Assuming you already have S-OFF you just need this file http://www.techerrata.com/android/twrp/PG86IMG-twrp-shooter-1.0.3.zip
*Download flashable zip from the OP and rename it "PG86IMG.zip" (without the quotes)
*Place in the root of the sdcard
*Power off phone (make sure you turn off hot boot or pull the battery when it's off)
*Power on the phone holding power and volume down
*Follow the prompts to flash it
*Delete .zip (PG86IMG.zip) after booting
*Enjoy
(Credit to ViViDboarder)
If you have any other questions head to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192077
Okay. Couple days ago, i got my new Samsung Galaxy S II. Fell in love with it. I previously had a Vibrant, but that met an unfortunate and violent demise. On the vibrant I hadn't been doing anything involving roms and such because i'd tried once, and completely fried the phone. LOL.
I managed to root my phone, and from what I've read, I didn't do the best method. What I did was get an unsecure kernel, and flashed that, then used a 1-click root type thing to root it. So one of my questions is, my clockwork mod isn't working, what's wrong with it? I downloaded ROM Manager, and flashed CWM. But when i reboot into recovery, i get the stock Samsung recovery screen. How can I get this to work?
And another question, is about roms such as Cyanogen mod. I really wanna get it. (I wont until I get CWM working, though.) And I'm just wondering. If I were to just go to ROM Manager, and flash cyanogen, would it work, or do i need to do more to my phone to be able to put on custom roms? I've never understood the concept of roms vs kernels vs firmware vs whatever else.
And if it matters, Samsung Galaxy S II, Android 2.3.3, rooted using SuperOneClick.
P.S Anything else that I should considering doing/putting onto my phone? And thanks in advance for halping.
Gutana said:
Okay. Couple days ago, i got my new Samsung Galaxy S II. Fell in love with it. I previously had a Vibrant, but that met an unfortunate and violent demise. On the vibrant I hadn't been doing anything involving roms and such because i'd tried once, and completely fried the phone. LOL.
I managed to root my phone, and from what I've read, I didn't do the best method. What I did was get an unsecure kernel, and flashed that, then used a 1-click root type thing to root it. So one of my questions is, my clockwork mod isn't working, what's wrong with it? I downloaded ROM Manager, and flashed CWM. But when i reboot into recovery, i get the stock Samsung recovery screen. How can I get this to work?
And another question, is about roms such as Cyanogen mod. I really wanna get it. (I wont until I get CWM working, though.) And I'm just wondering. If I were to just go to ROM Manager, and flash cyanogen, would it work, or do i need to do more to my phone to be able to put on custom roms? I've never understood the concept of roms vs kernels vs firmware vs whatever else.
And if it matters, Samsung Galaxy S II, Android 2.3.3, rooted using SuperOneClick.
P.S Anything else that I should considering doing/putting onto my phone? And thanks in advance for halping.
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Okay, don't take this the wrong way, but it seems you're a bit lacking regarding knowledge about this phone... It'd pay to do your research beforehand in the SGS2 forum, read the FAQs, etc.
Okay, first off, all I can say is, go back to stock. Go flash a stock Samsung ROM for the device. Then, go into Chainfire's CF-Root Kernel thread, and download the appropriate kernel, and flash it using ODIN. After you've done that, you'll have ClockworkMod, and you'll be rooted. It is recommended that you flash another kernel though, after gaining root, as all the CF-Root kernel does it install ClockworkMod, and root the device. Personally, I recommend SiyahKernel.
If you need more detail or have any more questions, feel free to send me a PM.
Thanks,
screamworks.
screamworks said:
Okay, don't take this the wrong way, but it seems you're a bit lacking regarding knowledge about this phone... It'd pay to do your research beforehand in the SGS2 forum, read the FAQs, etc.
Okay, first off, all I can say is, go back to stock. Go flash a stock Samsung ROM for the device. Then, go into Chainfire's CF-Root Kernel thread, and download the appropriate kernel, and flash it using ODIN. After you've done that, you'll have ClockworkMod, and you'll be rooted. It is recommended that you flash another kernel though, after gaining root, as all the CF-Root kernel does it install ClockworkMod, and root the device. Personally, I recommend SiyahKernel.
If you need more detail or have any more questions, feel free to send me a PM.
Thanks,
screamworks.
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Alright, I did what you said. I went to stock 2.3.4, used CF-root. And now about SiyahKernel, what are the advantages of it? And is there something wrong with just staying with the CF-Root kernel?
And as of where I am now, with just root and CWM, would i be able to switch ROMs and such?
Gutana said:
Alright, I did what you said. I went to stock 2.3.4, used CF-root. And now about SiyahKernel, what are the advantages of it? And is there something wrong with just staying with the CF-Root kernel?
And as of where I am now, with just root and CWM, would i be able to switch ROMs and such?
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With a rooted device you'll be able to flash trough Odin or CMW recovery any rom you like.
Siyah kernel gives you a faster and more battery efficient phone and lets you set your own Voltage/ speed the processor has to use see this for the latest info
http://www.gokhanmoral.com/ and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1263838
DirkTeur Velserbroncx said:
With a rooted device you'll be able to flash trough Odin or CMW recovery any rom you like.
Siyah kernel gives you a faster and more battery efficient phone and lets you set your own Voltage/ speed the processor has to use see this for the latest info
http://www.gokhanmoral.com/ and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1263838
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Alright, so i'm pretty much ready to go? Yayayayay.
And would you recommend any roms for me? XD
Gutana said:
Alright, I did what you said. I went to stock 2.3.4, used CF-root. And now about SiyahKernel, what are the advantages of it? And is there something wrong with just staying with the CF-Root kernel?
And as of where I am now, with just root and CWM, would i be able to switch ROMs and such?
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SiyahKernel has a lot of advantages and improvements of CF-Root, which provides null, if I'm correct. Go check out the SiyahKernel thread in Original Development for details.
Yes, as stated, you can use CWM by itself to switch ROMs. Just remember that if you're switching ROMs (as opposed to performing a flash to a newer version of the same ROM), to perform a factor reset / wipe data, wipe cache, and wipe Dalvik cache (Advanced > wipe Dalvik cache) in ClockworkMod first.
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Alright, so i'm pretty much ready to go? Yayayayay.
And would you recommend any roms for me? XD
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For a beginninger, I can't recommend MIUI highly enough. You could go with GalnetMIUI, which is a variant, but I personally prefer the official MIUI build. If you're looking for a more, 'pure' experience, go with CyanogenMod 7.1 stable.
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SiyahKernel has a lot of advantages and improvements of CF-Root, which provides null, if I'm correct. Go check out the SiyahKernel thread in Original Development for details.
Yes, as stated, you can use CWM by itself to switch ROMs. Just remember that if you're switching ROMs (as opposed to performing a flash to a newer version of the same ROM), to perform a factor reset / wipe data, wipe cache, and wipe Dalvik cache (Advanced > wipe Dalvik cache) in ClockworkMod first.
For a beginninger, I can't recommend MIUI highly enough. You could go with GalnetMIUI, which is a variant, but I personally prefer the official MIUI build. If you're looking for a more, 'pure' experience, go with CyanogenMod 7.1 stable.
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Alright, one more question, sorry for the nooby-ness. Haha.
So going from my phone to for example Cyanogen, I'd backup in CWM, and Titanium backup (Or does CWM backup like, EVERYTHING?) and then factory reset, flash the rom using odin, and then use titanium backup to get my apps and settings back? orwhat.
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Alright, one more question, sorry for the nooby-ness. Haha.
So going from my phone to for example Cyanogen, I'd backup in CWM, and Titanium backup (Or does CWM backup like, EVERYTHING?) and then factory reset, flash the rom using odin, and then use titanium backup to get my apps and settings back? orwhat.
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CWM backup (called a NANDroid backup), backs up everything. If you perform a NANDroid back, there's no need to perform a backup in Titanium Backup - it creates a full image of your system (the advantage to TB though, is that you can backup all your download apps and settings, then install the new ROM, and restore the backed up apps - If you restore a NANDdroid backup, it'll restore the old ROM, exactly as it was when the backup was made).
So yes, the installation process is, for CWM: copy the ROM.zip to your phone, then boot into CWM recovery. Hit the 'factory reset / wipe data' option, the 'wipe cache' option, and then go to Advanced, and hit the 'wipe Dalvik cache' option. After that, choose 'install ZIP from SDCARD', and choose your ROM.zip. After it finishes installing, just hit 'reboot system now', and you're good to go!
Usually, it's not required to use ODIN to flash a new ROM, unless there's a problem with the recovery.
All that said, it pays to read the thread for the ROM beforehand, as sometimes when moving from ROM to ROM (especially from stock), there's a few small things that may be required, like flashing the ROM twice, or whatever
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CWM backup (called a NANDroid backup), backs up everything. If you perform a NANDroid back, there's no need to perform a backup in Titanium Backup - it creates a full image of your system (the advantage to TB though, is that you can backup all your download apps and settings, then install the new ROM, and restore the backed up apps - If you restore a NANDdroid backup, it'll restore the old ROM, exactly as it was when the backup was made).
So yes, the installation process is, for CWM: copy the ROM.zip to your phone, then boot into CWM recovery. Hit the 'factory reset / wipe data' option, the 'wipe cache' option, and then go to Advanced, and hit the 'wipe Dalvik cache' option. After that, choose 'install ZIP from SDCARD', and choose your ROM.zip. After it finishes installing, just hit 'reboot system now', and you're good to go!
Usually, it's not required to use ODIN to flash a new ROM, unless there's a problem with the recovery.
All that said, it pays to read the thread for the ROM beforehand, as sometimes when moving from ROM to ROM (especially from stock), there's a few small things that may be required, like flashing the ROM twice, or whatever
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Alright, i got that done. I've tried both MIUI and Cyanogen, and both are working and lookin wonderful. But the problem is I dont get data on either one. I've tried reflashing, rebooting, factory reset. Idunno what else to try. Do you know what could be causing this?
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Alright, i got that done. I've tried both MIUI and Cyanogen, and both are working and lookin wonderful. But the problem is I dont get data on either one. I've tried reflashing, rebooting, factory reset. Idunno what else to try. Do you know what could be causing this?
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Check your APN settings (should be somewhere in Settings under mobile network or whatever). Look your's up online ('APN settings carrier y, country z), and if they're not correct, add them in.
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Check your APN settings (should be somewhere in Settings under mobile network or whatever). Look your's up online ('APN settings carrier y, country z), and if they're not correct, add them in.
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Got everything working, thank you very much. Thanked every one of your posts
And I've asked too many questions for one person in one thread, I happen to have one more. How can I get the Android Market on Cyanogenmod? I downloaded build 115, and there wasn't a market, so i'll be using MIUI till I get that fixed. ><
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Got everything working, thank you very much. Thanked every one of your posts
And I've asked too many questions for one person in one thread, I happen to have one more. How can I get the Android Market on Cyanogenmod? I downloaded build 115, and there wasn't a market, so i'll be using MIUI till I get that fixed. ><
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You're more than welcome
If you've got any other questions, feel free to PM me
With CyanogenMod, there's a bit of a story to it, but basically, they're not allowed to package Market, Gmail, Maps, etc. with the ROM, so you need to download a zip file called Gapps and flash it in CWM Recovery, you can find it here. You don't need to wipe anything when flashing this.
Also, build #115 isn't the latest, build #117 is (in fact, there's another, even more current one, but there's really nothing to it), but I don't believe there's any major changes.
screamworks said:
You're more than welcome
If you've got any other questions, feel free to PM me
With CyanogenMod, there's a bit of a story to it, but basically, they're not allowed to package Market, Gmail, Maps, etc. with the ROM, so you need to download a zip file called Gapps and flash it in CWM Recovery, you can find it here. You don't need to wipe anything when flashing this.
Also, build #115 isn't the latest, build #117 is (in fact, there's another, even more current one, but there's really nothing to it), but I don't believe there's any major changes.
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Hey, I was having troubles messaging you, since it didn't show anything in the sent box, i assumed it didnt go through. So i guess ill be still asking you on here.
So about Cyanogen, which build is the best? And if i'm going from one build to another, like from 115, to 116, would i still have to do a complete wipe? And any other roms besides MIUI and Cyanogen you recommend? cause MIUI is giving me and couldn't generate md5 errors, and i cant restore to it, and i hate starting off without it set up how i like it. D: and yeah, thanks.
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Hey, I was having troubles messaging you, since it didn't show anything in the sent box, i assumed it didnt go through. So i guess ill be still asking you on here.
So about Cyanogen, which build is the best? And if i'm going from one build to another, like from 115, to 116, would i still have to do a complete wipe? And any other roms besides MIUI and Cyanogen you recommend? cause MIUI is giving me and couldn't generate md5 errors, and i cant restore to it, and i hate starting off without it set up how i like it. D: and yeah, thanks.
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I only just the message 12 hours ago, if that helps?
Usually, your best bet is to go with the latest build, which you can get here. If it's stability you're looking for, go with the stable build, instead of nightlies.
Personally, out of all ROMs I've tried, I could only ever stand MIUI and CyanogenMod - but even then, MIUI started to annoy me with little things here and there. I think I'll be sticking with CyanogenMod for awhile. So, I'm not really the best authority on that. Just try some different ones, and see what appeals to you the most