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i am schocked to see this....does x10 has front facing camera????
the page here confirms it....... OMG
http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dERiNkdJY2pBQnQxWF9sYUpTcGo0S3c6MA
the page here is talking about fring with video calls.....can any one confirm this..
You had better ask McKebapp, he has pulled his X10 apart
But I doubt it.....
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Noooooooooooo!
No, there is no front camera!! No No No!
but the other 2 devices has front cameras........and i dont understand y this device is added to it.......
X10 has just one cam! I've tried and frings uses that...so no front camera!
i will get back my x10 tomorrow....will test it and confirm.......
i hope its true and i should be the first one to tell u all
i have got an email from early access team of fring with a test fring apk.....
i dont have the phone with me right now....tomorrow evening i will test it when i get my phone back.....
Hello,
I’m glad to introduce: fring 2.1.0.17 for Android.
Before you install the attached version, please uninstall the current one and wait 2-3 minutes before you connect again.
This version includes the following features:
- Video Calls for more Android devices (Sony Ericsson X10, Dell Streak).
- fring should be running smoother on Froyo.
- Some other improvements.
We'll be glad to get your impressions, comments, suggestions, bug reports etc.
Thanks,
Tom
Early-Access team @fring.
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I've tested it. I can confirm no front camera. Just uses the main camera, which is kinda useless.
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No Guys, I'm sorry...
There is no front cam installed.
Seach for my "Upskirt Shots" Thread.
If you find a frontcam, please post the lottery numbers for coming Saturday
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_shakira_makes_a_debut_a_new_xperia_x10_offshoot-news-1715.php
i m also confusing with this. arent we all knew that x10 have no front camera since they first day published?
I saw a video by CoolSmartPhone.com on youtube with a white x19 with a front facing camera. S o n y Ericsson Xperia X10 - The on-screen keyboard and dialing
A lot of salespeople saw the proximity sensor and assumed it was a cam... I think that's where this rumor started
there is no front camera....
i have tried using video chat apps which use front camera..they said no front camera detected.
maybe the latest fring version lets u use main camera.
i dont miss it though..
my bro has iphone4 ..he keeps facetiming with his GF...
Facetime is lame. What's the point if you can't make 3g video calls? If you're at home might as well use your laptop/desktop that has a better screen + better quality
so, this is?
Hanzo.Hasashi said:
so, this is?
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Proximity sensor..
That explains it..no front cam then :-(
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Front Camera
There are X10 knock-offs floating around on Madeinchina.com (from the site just do a search on X10 and you'll see exactly what i'm talking about)
Many of these knock-off's have dual sim card slots, front and rear facing camera's, radio, even built in television.
However I can't confirm if any of them are using the Android OS. Its possible that where ever this confirmation came from originally - that the person was using one of these knock-offs.
Also to note - the camera resolution on these knock-offs are considerably lower than the true X10. Usually about 4mps for the rear camera, and 1.5mps for the front facing.
Screen size is usually a bit smaller. And I would imagine the resolution of the screen wouldn't be HD.
I have though made my decision. The next cellphone I buy will probably be an android based knock-off. Why? If I'm not going to get support from the manufacture anyways what the heck is the point in paying the high price. When I say support I mean continued updates and upgrades. All the work is now being done by the public - not the manufacture. I'd rather save the money by not buying the name brand, and donating to the developers who make this stuff work.
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Proximity sensor..
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Out of curiosity, on the X10 what does the Proximity sensor do?
I have the message LED's that light up, that I noticed. The blue LED for facebook messages. is this a different LED to indicate something else?
Hey everyone! Ever since I got my 3VO I've been putting it through its paces. On a daily basis I am reminded of how poorly the 2D camera operates. I love photography and, as a result, I expect a lot from a camera, even a smartphone camera. The shutter speed is terrible and, any object that even slightly moves produces an unusable image. It's to the point where returning the phone isn't necessarily out of the question, depending on Q3 phone offerings.
When the 3VO's bootloader is finally unlocked, will I reasonably be able to assume that a developer can enhance the camera's performance?
XDA Premium App, biatches!
This is entirely possible with future OTAs from sprint, htc, and possibly Google. Perhaps kernel enhancements could help too.
This is of course unless the camera hardware is sub-par by design. If this is the case I'd not expect much.
Might want to give Vignette a try. This camera app seems to help out pictures and give you some more features to enhance your photos. When I compared pictures side by side it did better at adjusting for light levels, use of flash, and colors.
Just my two cents.
Thanks a lot guys, I'll try that app out.
Some of you may know about the Pro HDR app that takes high and low exposure shots and combines them together to produce really high quality pics.
Well the app doesn't work on the EVO3D and I contacted the company that makes the app. They reported that HTC has not correctly implemented the android camera API on the evo3d which is why the app doesn't work properly on this phone. Instead of taking one high and one low exposure picture, it just takes two pictures with the same exposure level. They also said this is surprising because HTC has the correct implementation on the EVO.
So my question is for all the gurus out there. Is there anyway to fix this or will a solution have to come from HTC?
Anyone?
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Some of you may know about the Pro HDR app that takes high and low exposure shots and combines them together to produce really high quality pics.
Well the app doesn't work on the EVO3D and I contacted the company that makes the app. They reported that HTC has not correctly implemented the android camera API on the evo3d which is why the app doesn't work properly on this phone. Instead of taking one high and one low exposure picture, it just takes two pictures with the same exposure level. They also said this is surprising because HTC has the correct implementation on the EVO.
So my question is for all the gurus out there. Is there anyway to fix this or will a solution have to come from HTC?
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Yes, I'm sure there is a way to fix this. Is the way to fix this simple or easy? Hard to stay. Somebody would have to do the initial research by reversing HTC's closed source camera app and find out if its as simple as flipping a boolean value or if the code has to be completely reworked.
I would think the developer of your desired application would be the most familar with this type of camera API code and would be the best to ask regarding how much effort is required for them to integrate support.
This device supports 3D. Sure this may seem like a great feature/advantage. The downside to the HTC EVO 3D support is: essentially a bunch of closed source, proprietary HTC code. The code is not part of Android nor is the code released anywhere. The fact that all this code is kept private makes it much more difficult for developers to work with.
The impact this 3D code has ranges from difficulties for AOSP based ROMs such as CM to support the device to third party app developers, such as your camera app developer. Unfortunately, the impact is broader than I would have initially guessed, but as seeing this device has been out since June (CDMA Sprint version) and being November now, many developers are still struggling with 3D support. Quite unfortunate.
Hope that helps!
I had success with "HDR Camera" if you're looking for something to work. I know Pro HDR has more features, but you can give the one I suggested a shot.
nope, the exposure setting just doesn't work properly on the evo3D. just try it in the default camera app. If you change the exposure, it just brightens the image instead of actually changing the exposure
Hey guys, I'm returning from a recent trip to iPhoneland and I'm looking for the camera app that's closest to keeping up with the iPhone's camera.
I'm running cm11 and so far the best I've found is this one here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2540030
This one takes a lot better pictures than the stock cm or the google camera from the play store, but it still lags behind the iPhone.
it's not about the camera app, it's about the hardware...
No camera app on LG G2 can match iPhone and/or Nokia just because of the camera hardware (sensor, lens,...) which is not that good on LG
To explore full benefits of LG camera hardware, you'll have to move to one of stock based roms and then try i.e. Xdabbeb camera...
60nine said:
it's not about the camera app, it's about the hardware...
No camera app on LG G2 can match iPhone and/or Nokia just because of the camera hardware (sensor, lens,...) which is not that good on LG
To explore full benefits of LG camera hardware, you'll have to move to one of stock based roms and then try i.e. Xdabbeb camera...
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Alright that's what I was kind of afraid of. I know that there is a limit to how good the camera is going to be but I was hoping I hadn't found it yet. There is a significant variation between the different camera apps I have tried. It's too bad we can't use the camera to its full potential on aosp based roms.
I would strongly disagree with what 60nine just said, but that's just me. The main issue is the stock "camera" app is kinda crappy and does way too much processing on the image data from the sensor. It's not the best image sensor that's ever been made, no, of course not, but it is quite a nice one especially with the OIS as part of the hardware.
Having said that, I personally use Mi2raw nowadays which allows me to capture pure raw image data from the G2 sensor and dumps it as a DNG (Adobe Digital Negative) file which I then transfer over to my laptop for editing/post processing using Photoshop.
If you want some examples of what the G2's camera is capable of, look here:
https://www.flickr.com/groups/[email protected]/pool/
You can find more info about Mi2raw (available on the Google Play Market, it's free) in the main thread for it and yes there's more pics too:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/general/app-mi2raw-enables-capturing-real-raw-t2837089
Again, we're not dealing with the best image sensor ever made but I've been damned happy with the results I've been getting with my G2 because of Mi2raw (I just got this G2 like 3 weeks ago).
As far as other apps, I use Aviary (it was free a few days ago, with every single filter they had for free too so I grabbed it all and backed it up safely), PerfectlyClear which gave away their Android app for free last week (it's not too bad, actually), and Photoshop Express (which can load the DNG files directly on the G2 directly from Mi2raw for quick viewing).
There's also XCam LG which adds a lot of functionality to the G2 including giving it 4K video recording capability (just make sure to read the details in the thread):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2548974
XCam LG has a settings app to tweak it further located on the Play Market as well, it's worth the price if you need it.
For me personally I just use Mi2raw for most every picture I snap these days then do editing/PP work when I get back home, it's what works best for me at this time.
Hope this helps...
Try Cymera. It's free and has good editing tools. Drawbacks are that it takes a bit to load and is not too stable. It's the only camera app that focuses correctly and has a proper white balance!!!! The resolution is small 1 Megapixel?, but the image is sharper and better than any 13megapixel shot from other camera apps or stock.
Otherwise just take the stock LG camera app as a daily driver.
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I would strongly disagree with what 60nine just said, but that's just me. The main issue is the stock "camera" app is kinda crappy and does way too much processing on the image data from the sensor. It's not the best image sensor that's ever been made, no, of course not, but it is quite a nice one especially with the OIS as part of the hardware.
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why would you disagree if its known that iPhone and Nokia use way better sensor and lenses? (and i'm not an iphone fanboy, far from that )
i didn't say that LG hardware is crap - i'm just saying that it's no match to those two... or to say it better - "close but no cigar"
Nokia & iPhone give much better low light images than LG (partly due to better sensor, partly due to smaller f-stop lens number which lets more light onto the sensor)
for comparison
LG G2 has F/2.4 lens < iphone/nokia use F/2.2 lens (smaller the f-stop, more light comes in)
Having said that, I personally use Mi2raw nowadays which allows me to capture pure raw image data from the G2 sensor and dumps it as a DNG (Adobe Digital Negative) file which I then transfer over to my laptop for editing/post processing using Photoshop.
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i didn't mention mi2raw app on purpose because it's not for everyone... and since i'm a photo hobbyist and DSLR owner, it gives me a bit of real camera world in a mobile device...
and what i like about mi2raw (besides its raw capability) is that the photos taken with that app don't look "painted" or "blurred" because of too much noise reduction that other camera apps produce
mi2raw would be too complicated to use for an average user... but hey - it's free, and everyone can try it and see
everything else you wrote - i second...
+ Snapseed is an image app worth mentioning especially with its ambiance setting that gives an image a nice "bump" in every way if it's used correctly...
personally i'm currently "stuck" with mi2raw, xdabbeb's XCam (because of those extra options you mentioned) and google camera (because it's the best for panorama/sphere images)
cheers...
In my opinion the best camera so far has been the one with CloudyG3 ROM
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Thanks for the Mi2RAW suggestion, I'll check that out. I work with raws from my dslr but I don't know how badly I really need to have all my phone pictures shot as raw. I'll see how it goes
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In my opinion the best camera so far has been the one with CloudyG3 ROM
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which is basically a stock cam app that uses xdabbeb's advanced binaries (so it's pretty much the same as XCam, but Xcam gets updated by xdabbeb every now and then)
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Thanks for the Mi2RAW suggestion, I'll check that out. I work with raws from my dslr but I don't know how badly I really need to have all my phone pictures shot as raw. I'll see how it goes
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sometimes you just want that bit of extra image customization that raw offers
since you have dslr as well, you know what i'm on about
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which is basically a stock cam app that uses xdabbeb's advanced binaries (so it's pretty much the same as XCam, but Xcam gets updated by xdabbeb every now and then)
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sometimes you just want that bit of extra image customization that raw offers
since you have dslr as well, you know what i'm on about
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I did not know that thanks
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"a Better Camera" app is what I use on non stock Roms and it's very good. LG camera hardware is not that good? You make me laugh... Can IPhone camera record 4k?Does it have ois?
The only thing that iPhone is better at is the image processing. That's it. (period).
I use the G2's stock camera app on AICP. It's okay, but the images look washed out compared to my Optimus G.
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60nine said:
it's not about the camera app, it's about the hardware...
No camera app on LG G2 can match iPhone and/or Nokia just because of the camera hardware (sensor, lens,...) which is not that good on LG
To explore full benefits of LG camera hardware, you'll have to move to one of stock based roms and then try i.e. Xdabbeb camera...
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Bulsh*t of the month/year? :fingers-crossed: Only way to reveal the potencial of any and I mean ANY camera HW is to shoot RAW only! You can say Lg stock camera is bad and I will agree but not talk about HW whenn you didnt see pure RAW data. Just look at the samples I shot with the best android camera for photo enthusiasts: Mi2raw camera which is capable of capturing pure DNG files without freaky Lg jpeg engine, which is IMHO the worst I ever seen. I took indoor photos on ISO400-800 so dont blame the small sensor of more noise, no such a small sensor will perform any better. Still great results in todays mobile photography. Even Xdabbed camera which is great contribution cannot match results from RAW data and personal approach for photography. One minute for one photo and the results are uncomparable.
Anyone tried porting the Pixelmaster camera app from the various Asus Zenfones? It takes really incredible low light photos by reducing resolution to 2 megapixels and it is awesome (the only reason I fell envious of my brother's otherwise mediocre zenfone 5). Check here too, someone had plans of porting but not sure what happened to him since... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2712403
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Anyone tried porting the Pixelmaster camera app from the various Asus Zenfones? It takes really incredible low light photos by reducing resolution to 2 megapixels and it is awesome (the only reason I fell envious of my brother's otherwise mediocre zenfone 5). Check here too, someone had plans of porting but not sure what happened to him since... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2712403
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Why should I want 2Mpx photos from 13Mpx camera? From 13Mox->2Mpx I will do awesome photos too! 2Mpx=fullHD , 2160p=4K got it? Rather show us those amazing photos
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Why should I want 2Mpx photos from 13Mpx camera? From 13Mox->2Mpx I will do awesome photos too! 2Mpx=fullHD , 2160p=4K got it? Rather show us those amazing photos
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again. it takes normal pics at full resolution, then there is a night mode which takes very very nice pics in dark situations at full resolution (better than almost any other phone out there) and then there is a special night mode that reduces pic resolution to 2 megapixels, but boy those night pics are the best I have ever seen.... Check this for example. and no worries about zenfone 5 camera being 8 megapixels. the zenfone 6 has 13 and same software...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_TPqwDYStI
so you still live in a world where more megapixels mean better images?
i.e. see why HTC went for lower mpx in its flagship devices...
about my "bullsh*t of the year"... do some reading and know some basics of the digital photography...
i never said that LG G2 camera is bad, read my post again & read hardware tech specs of the other devices...
i like the mi2raw app very much (see my posts there in the app thread) - it's the best thing that happened to this device considering the camera/photo...
and i think LG G2 camera hardware can do much more - especially on the strange "painted like" image compression effect which i hate so much...
i'd say - LG G2 is close, but no cigar
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Bulsh*t of the month/year? :fingers-crossed: Only way to reveal the potencial of any and I mean ANY camera HW is to shoot RAW only! You can say Lg stock camera is bad and I will agree but not talk about HW whenn you didnt see pure RAW data. Just look at the samples I shot with the best android camera for photo enthusiasts: Mi2raw camera which is capable of capturing pure DNG files without freaky Lg jpeg engine, which is IMHO the worst I ever seen. I took indoor photos on ISO400-800 so dont blame the small sensor of more noise, no such a small sensor will perform any better. Still great results in todays mobile photography. Even Xdabbed camera which is great contribution cannot match results from RAW data and personal approach for photography. One minute for one photo and the results are uncomparable.
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Because of RAW the G2 is one of the top android cameras, that is true. However, the flagship Lumia devices also shoot RAW.
Yes I know, iphone can shoot RAW too, so android is behind somehow...
60nine: Ive read everything you've written, thats why I had to react. I know a lot about photography, HW a more, so Im OK. Thanks. And about pixels, even 8Mpx iphone camera is worse than 16Mpx SGN4 camera so give me a break...HTCs cameras are the worst from the biggest flagship manufacturers. HTCs cameras lags of detail and lost every shootout with competition. And I will tell you something, you will need at least 2160p for viewing on upcoming 4K display devices...so now the pixels matters. I know that more pixels suffers from dynamic range and more noise, but it will be hidden in more Mpx photo with good postprocess. So if you find comparison between IP6 and LG G2 in RAW at same settings and same scene and IP6 will be better, youll have my respect and appologies.
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i won't bother answering to a person who thinks more mpx means better images (on a same sized sensor), so cheers...
raw is not for an average users anyway
I need some help here, as this is my very first Android phone and I suspect the Sony software/photo processing is overprocessing my photos. I purchased the phone last week and was caught up figuring out the Android system. Now that things are settling, I am playing with the camera and getting very anxious about the poor camera quality.
I have tried a variety of photos (bright conditions, low light, fill flash) and honestly none of them were remotely satisfactory: the lack of detail overprocessing is terrible. I used to shoot commercially and I am coming from a Nokia 808 Pureview but I simply cannot accept that my standards are that high that a modern new phone would not be able to satisfy me.
Could anyone help me with the following:
- Is there an option to use a app for shooting photos and bypass Sony Camera app? If so, which app is recommended?
- Is there an option to shoot RAW and develop the photos myself??
- How could I test the hardware to find out whether the camera is actually defective?
Thanks in advance,
BB
Try going into settings, apps, locate 'photo analyzer service' and disable/uninstall it.
I have no issues or problems with my camera.
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Try going into settings, apps, locate 'photo analyzer service' and disable/uninstall it.
I have no issues or problems with my camera.
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Found it - it was under "ALL" apps. I disabled and stopped it. Going out for new photos to try this out.
Thanks!
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Woza72 said:
Try going into settings, apps, locate 'photo analyzer service' and disable/uninstall it.
I have no issues or problems with my camera.
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I disabled, went out and took some photos and same issues. Photos were taken at mediocre lighting conditions, so tomorrow during the day I plan on taking some photos again.
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There are other apps, A Better Camera, etc. To the best of my knowledge the RAW can't be accessed because Sony's API doesnt support it. So without a better API, the Sony app is probably the best choice. Have you tried playing with the manual mode settings?
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There are other apps, A Better Camera, etc. To the best of my knowledge the RAW can't be accessed because Sony's API doesnt support it. So without a better API, the Sony app is probably the best choice. Have you tried playing with the manual mode settings?
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Manual mode is pretty skimpy, only allowing me to control exposure and white balance.
And I received a replacement Z5C from Amazon today, so I'll be able to compare cameras and decide if maybe my first unit was defective.
Cheers,
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Manual mode is pretty skimpy, only allowing me to control exposure and white balance.
And I received a replacement Z5C from Amazon today, so I'll be able to compare cameras and decide if maybe my first unit was defective.
Cheers,
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There's a whole huge thread on the quality of the camera in the main Xperia Z5 subforum. The consensus opinion is basically that for most occasions you want to stick with the super-sampled 8mp SA. Poor light conditions you want to also stay with 8mp, but hold the camera steady until the tripod icon comes up, or shoot in manual night mode. And only in bright daylight conditions should you attempt to use the 20 and 23mp modes.