[Q] Apps to Ext on Gingerbread: questions/observation - HTC Aria Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Just something that I'm trying to confirm. During the process of swapping over to CM7, I added and removed some apps from my device, as I was either wanting new ones or getting rid of stuff I didn't use. However, I'm pretty much back to about the same set of apps I had before. What I have noticed, is that I have significantly more free storage space on GB. With the setup I had on FroYo, I typically ran about 30 MB free after clearing caches, with Dalvik on the device. I am now running about 60 MB free with the same circumstances.
Just wondering if anyone else has noticed an increase? Any thoughts on why? GB is able to dump more of the app to ext? I didn't notice a significant difference between DT a2sd and s2e...
Thanks,
DD

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[Q] Why is Android so crap at managing memory?

I'm currently using CronosDroid 2.13 (2.1) and was on Modaco 3.2 (1.5) previously.
Within 10 mins of switching on my phone Taskiller widget reports only 30-35mb of free memory. No problem right? 30mb is more than enough? Wrong. Anytime free memory drops below about 50mb phone gets stupidly sluggish.
I do have 120+ apps installed, but surely you should be able to do that on a platform that has 50,000+ apps available? I know HTC Hero is 1 year old hardware, but hardly obselete.
Is it just me or does Android suck at managing memory? I'm not a dev, but surely memory management is a key part of an OS..?
Is there something I'm doing wrong? Anyone else have this problem?
It's starting to get annoying having to kill all tasks every 15 mins....
BoogWeed said:
I'm currently using CronosDroid 2.13 (2.1) and was on Modaco 3.2 (1.5) previously.
Within 10 mins of switching on my phone Taskiller widget reports only 30-35mb of free memory. No problem right? 30mb is more than enough? Wrong. Anytime free memory drops below about 50mb phone gets stupidly sluggish.
I do have 120+ apps installed, but surely you should be able to do that on a platform that has 50,000+ apps available? I know HTC Hero is 1 year old hardware, but hardly obselete.
Is it just me or does Android suck at managing memory? I'm not a dev, but surely memory management is a key part of an OS..?
Is there something I'm doing wrong? Anyone else have this problem?
It's starting to get annoying having to kill all tasks every 15 mins....
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You should make friends with dkelley. He has 160+ apps, and after hacre modified Froyd to work for loads of apps, he stopped getting lags.
Not sure what the fix was though, but I'm sure it still carries through to today...

Vibrant app memory confusion

Friends
I have searched on numerous fronts but have never found the solution to my problem. The issue is, on the vibrant I have 2 GB internal memory for app installation, with 512 mb ram (I think) to run the apps, in addition to 16 GB of internal storage for files and what not.
However, having 1.4 GB 'app' memory free currently, whenever I install any further apps, some of the existing apps start to crash/restart whenever I need to use them. For example, I use LPP, and when I install some more apps on the phone, LPP homescreen icons disappear whatever action I do (open an app, use an app, etc), and then they reload for about 15-20 seconds when I go to the homescreen again. I have about 35-55 MB RAM free at any given time.
My question is, why give 2 GB app installation memory when you still cannot use it to install apps since they start giving you all sort of problems? I am running stock t-mobile eclair and have recently rooted my phone.
you know what, i think all you need is a task killer or clean your phone or something.. just find a way to free up some space.. 35-55MB is hella low.
Hmm, whats the normal free ram for stock 2.1 vibrant supposed to be? I have not tinkered around with my phone much so am wondering how it could have gotten low to that extent. All the apps that I use are also well known and from reputable developers...
Got any clues?
dunno when i was running 2.1 i was always at 80-120 free range with apps running..
try getting a task killer and kill all running apps..
also check settings > applications > running services > tap and kill processes you dont need running
This still does not answer my question about why there is 2 GB of app memory available...? regardless of RAM..?
umaronly said:
This still does not answer my question about why there is 2 GB of app memory available...? regardless of RAM..?
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Incase people want 2 gigs worth of apps? and if i remember right you have 16gigs storage and then 2gigs of that is partitioned for apps
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Incase people want 2 gigs worth of apps? and if i remember right you have 16gigs storage and then 2gigs of that is partitioned for apps
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Yeah, but then what about what I wrote in my first post? It does not make sense if you can 'theoretically' install 2 GB worth of apps but renders the phone useless in function?
Anyone who is actually using close to 2 GB worth of memory for apps on vibrant/Galaxy S?? Would love to hear what you have to say.

[Q] How much space for App Installs?

Quick Question, how much internal storage space is there for app installs on the gTablet? My Nexus S of the 16gigs has 1gig for app installs, Captivate/Vibrant has 2gigs. Curious about the gTablet i'll be receiving soon. Hopefully it's a decent amount (1gig or more)
Just normal basic app install (no root, apps2sd, external internal sd, etc.)
About 1.7GB, on a clean system, for user apps. And about 12GB for content.
Is it possible to increase from the 1.7 GB?
It's already full as of today. I guess I will get some space after uninstalling trillian.
TheFlyingPig said:
Is it possible to increase from the 1.7 GB?
It's already full as of today. I guess I will get some space after uninstalling trillian.
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Really? I have over 300 apps on my EVO and it doesn't even use up 512MB!!!!

[Q] Link2SD drving me nuts, fails to re-link on boot, phone going crazy

I was very close to spiking my phone against the wall in frustration over this so I really hope someone can help me.
I have a Sprint Evo 3D, its rooted and S-OFF. I am using the SmoothCriminal ROM which is a highly optimized version of the stock ICS ROM.
Even with the custom rom, I have a mere 800 megs of space, not nearly enough for my usage (Especially since some of my apps are 200-400 megs and can't be moved to the SD card). So I created a 4GB partition on my SDcard and used Link2SD. Everything was working perfectly.... until I needed to reboot.
Despite the fact that I should have around 300-400 mb free on internal. 800 mb free on the link2sd partition, and around 2GB free on the SD card, my phone goes absolutely NUTS when I reboot it. It clearly fails to re-link or re-mount or whatever all the linked apps, and thinks they are all internal. So it basically thinks I have 4GB of apps installed on 800 megs of space, believes it has zero space left, and everything crashes nonstop. Half the time the "desktop" doesn't even load and all I see is a notification bar. I have to uninstall a random internal app just to clear enough "space" so I can boot up Link2SD and frantically try to get SU to not crash so I can re-link everything. This isn't even that functional as a large amount of my apps it thinks are missing as they just appear as com.whatever in the apps list when I do this.
This is a total mess, I can't spend over an hour every time fumbling with an unresponsive device that warns me every 10 seconds that it thinks it is out of space, only to do it again every time it reboots, and now not even all the apps are re-mounting anymore when I do it!
Is there any way I can get Link2SD to not lose all of these mount-settings on boot? Or is there some better alternative? I tried other sd installing apps, but they didn't work.
Please, I am about to smash this damn thing.

Link2SD working but free space not correct

Hi everyone. Sorry for starting a new post, but I looked and I wasn't sure where my question fit in. I'm using Link2SD on my kids' tablets and overall it works great. I got really fast (SanDisk extreme) micro SD cards for black Friday and the games run faster than with tablet memory. One thing I'm trying to figure out is why, even though I have both tablets set up mostly the same, one of the tablets has a lot less free space showing. I do have about 400-500 MB more of apps on the tablet showing less free space, BUT it is showing 4.0 GB free space vs. 5.8 GB free space on the other tablet. Why would this be (1.8 GB difference) if all else is the same?
Is it something to do with dalvik/cache? Speaking of it, is it safe to wipe the dalvik/cache through TWRP now that I have Link2SD set up with 30+ apps linked? Do I then just relink the dalvik files after rebooting? Or do things get messed up? I'm hesitant to do any of that because I have everything working well now, except the free space issue.
Or, if I multi-select and then choose to relink everything (apk, dex, internal data), could that help? Everything appears to already be linked correctly, so would relinking mess it up? Also, as a side note, I don't have any lib files linked as I have found that in the past it did mess things up for me. It would cause some apps to re-optimize at every boot, I think because the lib files wouldn't relink, even though I enabled it in the Link2SD settings. So now I stay away from that and all else is good, except this free space issue.
Any ideas on a solution? Is there something else taking up free space that's not listed in internal or system memory? Maybe downloaded Google play books? Or are they listed in the app data? Is the free space shown not correct, and it's actually more? I just can't figure it out. Any ideas would be great. Thanks!!!!
Here are the screenshots. You can see 5.76GB vs 4.07GB, but only 6.94GB vs 7.34GB for internal space difference. Why?

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