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BlackBerry Connect allows you to have access to the BlackBerry's push e-mail functions as well as receive BlackBerry Messenger IMs from BlackBerry users. This program does not allow you to send new IMs from your device.
BlackBerry Application Suite (BAS) allows you to run a virtual BlackBerry on your Windows Mobile device. This allows you to access the functions of many BlackBerry applications including BlackBerry Messenger, but is currently being testing on on GSM models.
Now, my main goal is to find someone that can allow BlackBerry Messenger to have full functionality on a Windows Mobile CDMA device. I don't care about any other application.
Can anybody take on this project and succeed? Theoretically it is possible we just need someone with the knowledge to do it.
Who can help out the many that are unable to help themselves?
bump any news on this?
chris.pcdrs said:
Can anybody take on this project and succeed? Theoretically it is possible we just need someone with the knowledge to do it.
Who can help out the many that are unable to help themselves?
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I believe this would require someone at RIM to be involved as you would need a BlackBerry PIN number, which would get you access to their server. There is an app out there which allows you to receive BB messages but other than what has been developed by RIM nothing I am aware of that will allow you to send.
It's not possible on any non-RIM device.
The PIN you get when you sign up for bb-connect is only used an as a means of identifying your account in the RIM provisioning tool.
vincej said:
I believe this would require someone at RIM to be involved as you would need a BlackBerry PIN number, which would get you access to their server. There is an app out there which allows you to receive BB messages but other than what has been developed by RIM nothing I am aware of that will allow you to send.
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whats the app that allows you to receive? how does it work? this would be awesome to have on a windows device....all PDA's should have this type of messenging service
Skype video call for Asus ePad?
Any idé how to make a skype video call with ePad?
V1rus9r said:
Skype video call for Asus ePad?
Any idé how to make a skype video call with ePad?
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You can't, and probably never will be able to, now Microsoft have bought Skype.
That sawks, why did i bought a ePad if this cam is useless
Don't u think any developer gonna do something wit it? debugging the skype system file?
It's not useless. Lots of other apps use the camera. The whole world doesnt revolve around Skype you know. Have a search.
Yes, is true.But all of my contacts use mostly skype to communicate with each other
Btw,Gtalk work with cam? for Asus ePad.
Of course.
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You can't, and probably never will be able to, now Microsoft have bought Skype.
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Actually, there is a beta Skype for Android with video. I don'tshare your opinion that Microsoft will kill any enhancements for Skype. Incidentally, th y do have a Bing app that is quite good.
If nothing else, MS buying Skype will give Skype a lot of resurces that they did not have. The N900 has had Skype video for over a year and the ANdroid beta is pretty much based on that Maemo one.
The best thing about the MS/Skype is that you will see conferencing and othe rgoodies in Outlook, Office and many other products.
Ah well that's up to you, but it makes perfect business sense for MS to use it as a selling point for their own WP7 handsets, so i highly doubt it will ever see a full release on android. Yes you're right though, there was a beta out ages ago for it. Anyway... time will tell... we shall see.
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Yes, is true.But all of my contacts use mostly skype to communicate with each other
Btw,Gtalk work with cam? for Asus ePad.
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just because you want video skype doesnt make it high priority for them. heh
i use gtalk for video chat. works adnroid to android or adroid to pc aswell
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Where is this Skype Video Beta for Android you talk about
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Where is this Skype Video Beta for Android you talk about
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1031944
Is there an alternative Android with Windows App video call over wifi for TF?
Skype is so slow to put their stuff on mobile devices is unbelievable.
Here's a video to make us go nuts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsX_VQ-bzAs
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Is there an alternative Android with Windows App video call over wifi for TF?
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Google Talk!
Regards,
Dave
The only video calling app under the sun that works for all of Android, iPhone, and Desktop right now is Yahoo Video Chat. That is it, all nada.
All other apps only work with some combination of 2 or 3 of the above, or are voice only.
Android has never been a priority for Skype, for god only knows what reason. They would rather develop for IOS even though it has fewer devices, even though they distribute their app for free.
How about ooVoo?
brunes said:
The only video calling app under the sun that works for all of Android, iPhone, and Desktop right now is Yahoo Video Chat. That is it, all nada.
All other apps only work with some combination of 2 or 3 of the above, or are voice only.
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This isn't entirely true. You can use Google Talk's Video Chat on all three, but on iOS devices and earlier Android versions (pre-GB) you have to use a third party app called Vtok. Not perfect, but it works. I should admit that I don't use video chat really ever, so I can't comment on the quality, etc
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This isn't entirely true. You can use Google Talk's Video Chat on all three, but on iOS devices and earlier Android versions (pre-GB) you have to use a third party app called Vtok. Not perfect, but it works. I should admit that I don't use video chat really ever, so I can't comment on the quality, etc
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Google Talk's video chat does not work on the desktop unless the person you are trying to call just happens to magically be logged into GMail. This is because their desktop app for whatever crazy reason does not have video chat support, only GMail does.
Can you tell I am frustrated? The thing that gets my goat so much is that MSN Messenger is one of the most widely used video chat apps in the world, that is what everyone I know runs and uses - yet they have NEVER made an Android or iPhone video chat client in the past 4 years. Heck they don't even have one for Windows Mobile or Windows Phone 7! And people wonder why Microsoft is always lagging behind - they don't even know how to keep up with the mobile marketplace.
Again, from my experience the only widely used one that works on all 3 is yahoo chat. oooVoo has clients but I honestly have never tried it because trying to find others with an ooVoo account is like finding a needle in a haystack.
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Google Talk's video chat does not work on the desktop unless the person you are trying to call just happens to magically be logged into GMail. This is because their desktop app for whatever crazy reason does not have video chat support, only GMail does.
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And in order to initiate video chat via Skype with someone on the desktop, you have to magically install a bloated Skype client application, open it, and hope that Skype isn't currently down.
I don't understand your complaint. Using Gmail as your primary client for instant messaging/voice chat/video chat on the desktop means you don't have to install any extra applications, and their service is way more reliable than Skype. And if you don't want to be stuck with having to manually log into Gmail every time you open your browser, you can set the browser to automatically open Gmail and log you in. It's no different from any other set of chat protocols, it's just been engineered to live inside the browser so that Google wouldn't have to write a separate application for each operating system. This is why Google abandoned further development on the official Google Talk client; it's just unnecessary when the browser is capable of the same thing.
You know what else makes Gmail better than anything else? As long as you're on a desktop computer, you get free outgoing calls to anywhere in the United States.
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And in order to initiate video chat via Skype with someone on the desktop, you have to magically install a bloated Skype client application, open it, and hope that Skype isn't currently down.
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Er....
Typically, if a bunch of people you know like to be able to video call each-other, they will all have an application installed. If Skype is installed it sits in the tray, always. A contact can initiate a call with you any time.
With GTalk, they'd have to open a chat session, and get you to go to gmail, etc etc. It really is very sub-optimal. I don't know why Google has not added video to their desktop client, there have been bugs for it for YEARS now.
The browser is great for a lot of things, but one of the things it can't currently do properly is run background daemon-type applications that should be available 24/7, such as a messenger client.
You know what else makes Gmail better than anything else? As long as you're on a desktop computer, you get free outgoing calls to anywhere in the United States.
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I do use GMail for this as well, but this is a total side conversation and really has nothing to do with the task at hand. As well, this is another feature that should be in the desktop client.
I've been googling this all day and I haven't found my answers. Does Windows Phone 7.5 Mango integrate tightly with Windows 7?
I'm currently using an iPhone 4 and I love how Apple tightly integrates iOS and Mac devices together.
Also can someone tell me if Mobile IE 9 have a way to force the desktop version of the site to load up? Mobile Safari can't do that and it's very annoying. Does Mobile IE 9 synchronize links and or passwords with IE 9 for the desktop or any other browsers?
I really want to move over to WP7.5 because I'm frustrated by the restrictiveness of iOS. I know Microsoft is also moving very fast to ensure that Windows Phone and Windows 8 will be extremely integrated with one another.
What kind of integration do you need?
WP7 uses Zune software to connect your desktop, it can autosync your photos, music, videos, install apps, Zune can give access to the internet to your phone while it connected via cable, also Zune can update firmware on phone. That all integration that I know.
IE9 has the ability to change view to desktop version. And it doesn't sync favs and passwords for me (maybe I don't know how to do that?).
I would say it doesn't integrate at all.
Everything goes through Zune. That is: the features Chipsaru described.
You can't even drag and drop files or sync documents and other files to it natively.
Not as a removable storage and not even through Zune.
You can however do some limited file transfers/syncs through Skydrive.
Syncing through Zune can be done via wireless connection as well. Change the settings in the Zune set up to Wireless Sync. Then plug your phone into power as if you were charging. Within 5-10 minutes it will sync.
And for file transfer there an app for that ! Try PC File Download from the MarketPlace.
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Syncing through Zune can be done via wireless connection as well. Change the settings in the Zune set up to Wireless Sync. Then plug your phone into power as if you were charging. Within 5-10 minutes it will sync.
And for file transfer there an app for that ! Try PC File Download from the MarketPlace.
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Correct, still it doesn't integrate more because of those points.
Actually the app You suggest does require a server to work as i can understand...
There are workarounds and apps for most scenarios, but integration is close to zero for the moment.
lsquare said:
I really want to move over to WP7.5 because I'm frustrated by the restrictiveness of iOS. I know Microsoft is also moving very fast to ensure that Windows Phone and Windows 8 will be extremely integrated with one another.
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Then Android is a much better choice for you. Lumia 800 (perhaps not Windows Phone, specifically) is as restrictive -- if not more so -- than iOS.
As for integration with a desktop OS, I think the trend is to move away from it. Over-the-air & cloud integration is the way to go.
Zune is crap, but it works. It is soon to be replaced...
Integration with Office is 100% and so is Facebook, Twitter etc.
Once you sign in with a Microsoft id all your contacts and calendars are synced 100% It's more, you don't have to connect to the pc even. You change or add something on your phone or pc and it is automatically synced - absolutely brilliant!!
Skydrive is good but has it's limits.
I recommend the Nokia Lumia 800 100% It's gonna be the best kit you have ever owned, please believe me.
Barrie
Chipsaru said:
What kind of integration do you need?
WP7 uses Zune software to connect your desktop, it can autosync your photos, music, videos, install apps, Zune can give access to the internet to your phone while it connected via cable, also Zune can update firmware on phone. That all integration that I know.
IE9 has the ability to change view to desktop version. And it doesn't sync favs and passwords for me (maybe I don't know how to do that?).
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Damn, that's pretty disappointing news. Any comment about Mobile IE9? How does it compare to Mobile Safari or even the new Chrome browser for Android?
BarrieSimpson said:
Zune is crap, but it works. It is soon to be replaced...
Integration with Office is 100% and so is Facebook, Twitter etc.
Once you sign in with a Microsoft id all your contacts and calendars are synced 100% It's more, you don't have to connect to the pc even. You change or add something on your phone or pc and it is automatically synced - absolutely brilliant!!
Skydrive is good but has it's limits.
I recommend the Nokia Lumia 800 100% It's gonna be the best kit you have ever owned, please believe me.
Barrie
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Facebook Messenger isn't available for Windows Phone 7.5. The app is a bit like WhatsApp, but the advantage is that I can also add my location data to my messages. I don't think Facebook for WP7.5 can do that yet. Is it possible to add location data to the messages?
lsquare said:
Facebook Messenger isn't available for Windows Phone 7.5. The app is a bit like WhatsApp, but the advantage is that I can also add my location data to my messages. I don't think Facebook for WP7.5 can do that yet. Is it possible to add location data to the messages?
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Facebook Messenger is not needed by Windows Phone 7.5 because Facebook Chat is built into the Messages app, and regular (offline) Facebook Messages can be accessed with the Facebook app.
If by adding location data to messages you mean geotagging status/timeline updates, I don't think that is yet possible natively by Windows phone 7.5, but you can use the built-in Check-in function to check in using Facebook Places.
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Damn, that's pretty disappointing news. Any comment about Mobile IE9? How does it compare to Mobile Safari or even the new Chrome browser for Android?
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If you've used IE9 on the desktop, its pretty comparable. While it may not be the best browser for everyone, IE9 is surprisingly good compared to previous versions (and while thats not saying much, its just a much better browser overall). Its fast, includes hardware acceleration for certain sites (hardware acceleration is also enabled for the mobile version of IE9). It is very identical to the desktop version of IE9, and it's pretty nice. No browser is perfect of course, but I haven't had any major issues with commonly used sites.
lsquare said:
I've been googling this all day and I haven't found my answers. Does Windows Phone 7.5 Mango integrate tightly with Windows 7?
I'm currently using an iPhone 4 and I love how Apple tightly integrates iOS and Mac devices together.
Also can someone tell me if Mobile IE 9 have a way to force the desktop version of the site to load up? Mobile Safari can't do that and it's very annoying. Does Mobile IE 9 synchronize links and or passwords with IE 9 for the desktop or any other browsers?
I really want to move over to WP7.5 because I'm frustrated by the restrictiveness of iOS. I know Microsoft is also moving very fast to ensure that Windows Phone and Windows 8 will be extremely integrated with one another.
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Just as an iPhone generally requires iTunes to do anything meaningful (Mac or PC), Windows Phone requires Zune (or if you are using a Mac, the Windows Phone Connector) in order to sync media back and forth. So they are largely the same in terms of how they connect to a computer. If by integration you mean among their own respective platforms, just as iOS has a host of services it hooks into (App Store, iBooks, iTunes, etc.), Windows Phone integrates very well with Microsoft services (Xbox Live, Zune, Windows Live, Office, SharePoint, Exchange, etc.). If you are living in an iOS world and can't give that up, then neither Windows Phone nor Android are probably good for you. Each platform caters to their own company's services, naturally. I do expect more OS-based integration coming with Windows 8 though, which will be really nice.
Mobile IE9 can force desktop version, you just have to go into the options and choose between Mobile or Desktop views.
iOS and Windows Phone are generally both very restrictive. There is a trade-off you are getting. iOS and Windows Phone are pretty stable and generally just works, and this is because of the restrictive nature of the operating system. If Apple and Microsoft control more of what goes on with the OS, there is less chance for things to go crazy. The opposite is for Android, you get almost complete freedom to do what you want, but with that, you introduce instability, possible malicious software through an unfiltered Market, and the oh-so-common force closes and poor performance. Microsoft is still slowly opening up Windows Phone, but its just as restrictive if not more (at least at the moment) than iOS. Customization is not a strong point for Windows Phone, but its the same as when iOS started out. As time goes on, more and more control will be given to both the end-user and developers to do great things with Windows Phone, but with Windows Phone still being rather young, you just aren't going to see that just yet.
prjkthack said:
Facebook Messenger is not needed by Windows Phone 7.5 because Facebook Chat is built into the Messages app, and regular (offline) Facebook Messages can be accessed with the Facebook app.
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Using that same logic, then I suppose FB Messenger isn't needed for iOS or Android because the original FB app have already have a messaging component inside the app.
The advantage of FB Messenger over the default FB app for both iOS and Android is that it can geotaq the messages. I will know where it was sent from. It sucks that WP7.5 cannot geotag the messages yet. That would be a nice feature to have.
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Using that same logic, then I suppose FB Messenger isn't needed for iOS or Android because the original FB app have already have a messaging component inside the app.
The advantage of FB Messenger over the default FB app for both iOS and Android is that it can geotaq the messages. I will know where it was sent from. It sucks that WP7.5 cannot geotag the messages yet. That would be a nice feature to have.
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Actually, using the same logic, you are correct, Facebook Messenger isn't needed anymore for iOS or Android because the official app can geotag status updates.
The only advantage it has over the official app is that it starts up a couple seconds faster and jumps directly to Messaging. Otherwise, its a rather redundant application.
As for it being on Windows Phone, I don't think we'll see much geotagging integration until its a more widely used feature of Facebook. As it stands, the majority of people who geotag their status updates do it because they don't know about it and/or don't turn it off. Facebook Places is a more widely used form of geotagging on Facebook, which is why that integration is there. I'm sure we'll see it someday.
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Actually, using the same logic, you are correct, Facebook Messenger isn't needed anymore for iOS or Android because the official app can geotag status updates.
The only advantage it has over the official app is that it starts up a couple seconds faster and jumps directly to Messaging. Otherwise, its a rather redundant application.
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You're wrong. I just loaded up the FB app for my iPhone 4 and there is no way to geotag the messages. The only way to do that is through FB Messenger.
As for it being on Windows Phone, I don't think we'll see much geotagging integration until its a more widely used feature of Facebook. As it stands, the majority of people who geotag their status updates do it because they don't know about it and/or don't turn it off. Facebook Places is a more widely used form of geotagging on Facebook, which is why that integration is there. I'm sure we'll see it someday.
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This is why I feel like WP is a step behind, but yea, I am more hopeful for the future.
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You're wrong. I just loaded up the FB app for my iPhone 4 and there is no way to geotag the messages. The only way to do that is through FB Messenger.
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Hmmm. I can geotag my status updates just fine on both my Android version of Facebook and the iOS version of Facebook.
Maybe you need to update?
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Hmmm. I can geotag my status updates just fine on both my Android version of Facebook and the iOS version of Facebook.
Maybe you need to update?
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I'm pretty sure I'm using the latest version of FB for iOS. Can you show a screenshot of it? It's very easy to do with iOS.
I don wanna use chunky BB just because my boss uses BBM.
Save mee
Tell him to start using WhatsApp!
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Is there any chance that BBM will come to Android OS?
dude, whatsapp is better but you must wait when you will the Black berry Messenger it's not out know i've googled it ^^
guys I know, whatsapp is better. even chaton is better.
but the boss just sticks to bbm, so if bbm will come to android, i won't have to buy a BB (actually my company buys) otherwise I will have to carry 2 phones thats why I'm asking.
you can try ChatOn. it can be usig iphone, blackberry, bada, android and web.
WhatsApp can be used on all platforms aswell
having to use BB just for the BBM most be frustrating. Explain him that there are other messaging services that are better.
It's all to do with critical mass, that's why people are using Facebook.
We now have a choice of a few good push Over The Top (OTT) instant messaging services now.
1. Beep from IM+ - I personally like their app on Android.
2. WhatsApp
3. eBuddy XMS by eBuddy
4. Nimbuzz
I don't have any strong affinity with any of them, however I ended up convincing a friend to use WhatsApp on their BlackBerry, because I have few other friends on it, just to avoid the hassle of checking three different services.
I don't see why Google, Yahoo! or Microsoft don't turn on push, which will level the playing field.
It's very tiring being online everywhere.
ksoze11 said:
I don wanna use chunky BB just because my boss uses BBM.
Save mee
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Use whatsapp instead
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victormlgh said:
having to use BB just for the BBM most be frustrating. Explain him that there are other messaging services that are better.
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It's because his bos enjoy using cheap Blackberry provider service like here in my country
I have same issue too, its hard to push my friends use whatsapp because there no cell provider package for whatsapp like BBM.
There seems to be an app social duplicator for IOS to use multiple instances of same messenger... I want to know if there is any similar app for android..
Make sure check this out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2983888