Is there a way to change the right side dock button? I'd much rather it go to text messages than the "Personalize" screen....anyone know how to change it?
Blah! HTC Sense... I am disgusted with it as well.
Best bet would probably be getting a third-party launcher (Launcher Pro / ADW Launcher).
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Blah! HTC Sense... I am disgusted with it as well.
Best bet would probably be getting a third-party launcher (Launcher Pro / ADW Launcher).
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I'm a Launcher Pro junkie. Love it. Sense on the other hand is definitely a love/hate thing for me. Some of its features are really slick, but many of them just get in the way. I too would like to change that personalize button. Need to look into it more closely.
It won't matter...once a CM7 gingerbread build comes out for this thing, I'm there and goodbye Sense.
Agreed. Once CM7 is ported and I have my TB rooted... there is no turning back to this bloated, stock, Sense 2.2 garbage.
I've always loved LauncherPro. I have the Plus version. But this is my first HTC phone, so I'm using it stock for a bit first just to get a taste of what Sense is all about for a while.
I don't mind it too much. Runs smooth, but has so much bloatware attached to it.
If I could customize the dock buttons around and hide icons in the app tray, I think I'd be fine with Sense.
I have seen this done in some roms but I am pretty sure you have no shot without root. I think I had it in Mikfroyo but it was called modified Rosie or Rosie Options. Something like that.
Btw...mikfroyo is an EVO from under the Evo Dev section
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New sense is nice actually. I like it so far...better than sense 2.0..
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Title says all, I'd like to know what launcher Sensehero 2.1 Build 5 is using.
And if it is possible to apply a livewallpaper-patch.
Thx for reading!!
My assumption was that it is still SenseUI but heavily modded,... Could be wrong though.
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My assumption was that it is still SenseUI but heavily modded,... Could be wrong though.
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Hmmmm, yeah could be, but if I take a look at the pictures, it really looks like the Froyo launcher.
Yeah, its really nice isn't it. Pretty sure it is, as it is still a Sense ROM.
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Yeah, its really nice isn't it. Pretty sure it is, as it is still a Sense ROM.
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Yea it is!!
I'd really like to see full Froyo at the HTC Hero
And i think i really like the Launcher, it's just.. it has something more then LauncherPro which is GREAT though!!
I'd like to use an alt launcher or a Vanilla ROM but am tied to Sense as I cant live without the HTC Calendar widget that can scroll up and down. A real shame as that Launcher Pro does look really nice.
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I'd like to use an alt launcher or a Vanilla ROM but am tied to Sense as I cant live without the HTC Calendar widget that can scroll up and down. A real shame as that Launcher Pro does look really nice.
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Yep same here, I really loved the launcher at my HTC Niki that time it was eclair I thought, or even donut, but I loved it!!
Just the pure android, with the original widgets and stuff.
But I'm addicted to the HTC Camera and there are a few other things i just can't miss..
it says on the sensehero post what it is!
Remapped nav buttons and reskinned...
Just the rosie launcher on steroids
Right hand button is still add widget,middle is apps left is phone
i see people here and other places talking about rooting their thunderbolt (and dinc, before i upgraded) to get rid of sense. well why did you buy the phone then? to me, sense is a dealbreaker. i don't like vanilla android and sense doesn't "muck" stuff up as long as the hardware is decent (cougheriscough). so to you who don't like sense, maybe provide some insight to your perspective? is there something that vanilla offers that sense doesn't and i just don't know about it? please, explain.
For me it's just a personal preference. Sense runs fine on the TBolt, sure. But, I prefer the layouts/customizing I can do with LauncherPro, so that's what I use instead.
I don't care for sense myself. Maybe it's because I started out on a Moto Droid, but I prefer the basic Android applications by far. I can live with Sense, but when vanilla ROMs come out, I'll switch. For now, LauncherPro is close enough. The only thing I really can't stand is the text messaging app, but that's why they make 3rd party!
I've had the Incredible and Droid X, and didn't care for Sense or MotoBlur much on those, either. I'm just happy that there are so many options to keep everyone happy!
I have no clue, and would like to know this as well? I love the look, and feel of sense myself personally.
Short answer because sense sucks, real answer because I started out on the original droid I got use to vanilla android. I don't really like the way sense is laid out just doesn't work as well for me.
I bought the phone because it's great hardware and I was reasonably certain I would be able to dump sense. If I was stuck with the phone bone stock... Ugh.
I like Sense but I like the customization of ADW EX better. Also I'm beta testing SPB Mobile 3D and running it on top of Sense drains the battery. Other than that, Sense is pretty cool.
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For me it's just a personal preference. Sense runs fine on the TBolt, sure. But, I prefer the layouts/customizing I can do with LauncherPro, so that's what I use instead.
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yeah for me i use launcher pro, have five icons at the very bottom of the screen at 185 DPI that open 5 different apps, and then if you swipe those icons they open 5 more apps. very clean look.
then WP Clock wallpaper and it is clean and totally awesome.
I guess some people like having an unmolested version of Android, the way Google wants it to be.
I personally love Sense. I love the dialer, the widgets, and some of the social aspects of it. I really don't have any negatives about it at all.
i dont mind sense, but i like the customization with other launchers that sense doesnt offer. and if its not going to offer it and im going to use something else then there is no reason for it to take up space and recourses. its not that its bad it just that some people are more anal about removing stuff from their phone they are not going to use. same with bloat apps. if im not going to use them i want the option to delete them.
Well to me sense slows the phone down a little bit more than stock vanilla android. Also having sense instead of stock android slows getting updates, if we had a stock vanilla android phone, we would get gingerbread faster.
Luckily that is one of the reason I root and put other roms on the phone like CM7.
I personally like SenseUI. I had it on a Hero before, and it ran like crap, but the Thunderbolt runs it really nicely. I like the way things integrate with the contact list, etc. I haven't really had a vanilla Android device, but I'm guessing soon I'll be trying one out Oh yeah, and CM7 too
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Sense is one of the main reasons I'm an HTC fan.
I had it... (sort of..) on my old VZW TP2. Ran like a slug. Now that I have an actually functioning version, it is great! I also like how many people hate Sense, but still want the HTC flip clock.. lol.. best of both worlds?
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I do have to add... thank God for 3rd party SMS apps....
Sense runs fine on TB hardware and the "new" Sense has made improvements over "old" Sense... but I still prefer AOSP.
I like CM7 particularly (among other AOSP-based ROMs) because of speed and I like the vanilla look and feel. I find it to be more appealing... and I use LPP or ADW whether I am on CM7 or stock Sense.
I also hate the crappy DPI of Sense. Everything looks blown up and pixelated on such a big display. I also hate the Sense dialer and contacts app... along with SMS. I much prefer stock (or third-party like GoSMS and GoContacts).
Need to figure out how to change the DPI. Looks like you can do it with Launcher Pro... any other way to do it?
It looks like fischer price. The friend stream widget you can only see like 1 or 2 peoples status per page. The launcher pro version of this is much better. There's a huge ass phone button in the middle of the dock. Launcher pro is much better with the ability, as someone earlier mentioned, to do 5 icons. You can swipe those 5 and get 10, then you can have up to 3 docks you can rotate between for even more. I use all 15 icons, with the swipe gesture on all of them for a total of 30 apps that I don't need to clutter up my homescreen to get.
The clock is massive and a waste of screen real estate. There's already a clock in the top right of appropriate size, why do I need a gigantic flip clock that does nothing but drain my battery.
The stuff where you can flip it over to silence it or turn on speakerphone is nice though, I like that. But the launcher and the widgets really suck.
This is my first sense phone, and i must say that i really like sense. Unless it really starts to be a liability to the phone, i will always use it or keep it around.
I actually dont mind sense at all, and i think it is a huge improvement over motoblur (from what ive seen on my friends phones) but i was running a rooted launcher pro OG droid, so in the end ill probably switch (already rooted).
To people that havent really been on android though I can see the love they have for sense (at least on the T bolt).
I personally have already gotten used to the launcher tray and I am a fan, but the messaging app on the droid was better, and while i like the dial pad itself, the way the contacts and call log are i have to go + to droid as well.
I love Sense. I mean all the others (Blur, Touchwiz) they all SUCK, but I think sense actually adds to the android experience.
i can see the statements about the huge widgets, but you can add or remove those as you see fit. i personally don't use any sense widgets on my home screen, but i like that they are scrollable. i use the calendar and people widgets as book ends (far left and right screens within the scene). but i find that sense brings a LOT of good features to android to integrate and make the use of the phone better. the pinch zoom out/tap "home" to show all screens to quickly jump to one instead of having to swipe left or right, etc. i like how it syncs facebook contact info with people, i like the color scheme especially. there are other things i like that i don't have on my work phone (OG Droid). as far as stock apps, i use handcent and gmail. i can say for certain i DO NOT like the stock people or contacts app. it sucks epically.
RE: being able to delete apps you don't use, i actually wrote a letter to corporate about that (don't put bloatware on my phone. put it in the market or if you put it on let me delete it) due to backup assistant, the moron at the store started to set my phone up for me, and was past that stage when he handed me my phone. i've been on android for over a year and before that was with blackberries using google sync also, haven't used backup assistant since my enV.
anyways, i can see some of the "customization" options on having different home screens, but sense is more than just a launcher. you can use 3rd party launchers and still keep the benefits of sense, which is the best of both worlds, if that's what your into. i personally like the sense stock look and once a good and stable root is available i'll root (no roms for me, they all suck one way or another IMO) to get my titanium and screen cap, then delete bloatware. FTW!!!
I tried liking adw but even with homescreen button lock on I found myself accidentally dragging the homescreen button off the screen and had to reload the launcher.
Plus adw looks too much like my Droid and I was ready for a change so this fits perfect. Seems like some wanna over customize just for bragging rights. To me Sense has plenty of options put of the box
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Many of us like to use home replacement apps to have more customization. But many of us whom are htc fanboys don't wanna let go of our sense widgets. They do make sense after all. So with the advent of these popup dock apps being on the market like dock4droid i thought hmmm maybe there can be a Rosie dock app that can be created as an overlay to the stock htc Rosie dock! Something that is themeable and looks just like the sense Rosie dock except that it has more app shortcuts embedded on it. Say like 3-5 app shortcuts that can revolve like the android rotary lockscreen that scrolls through different user defined shortcuts like launcher pro/ go launcher. That way we can keep our amazing goodness that sense 2.1 has to offer but having the convenience of using more shortcuts on the dock that home replacements offer. Has anyone else thought of this? And should this have been in the android general forum for more visibility? I'm not a developer btw. Just an enthusiast. Whaddayall think?
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Sounds like a nice idea for those sense-lovers. As for me, I don't much care for sense or the widgets, but would be willing to give this a try.
I originally thought sense was the most beautiful thing I had ever seen back in 1.5. After the step up to 2.0 I perfered the look of AOSP with other adjustments. I absolutely hate the dialer, contacts, and several other aspects of sense though. I would do anything to get it removed from my phone completely. I will rejoice to the heavens once CM7 is ported over to this wonderful piece of hardware.
Its funny to me that the way you feel about sense now is the exact same way I feel about aosp. I like the way aosp performs over sense. Feels much lighter and easier on the cpu. But I like the look and the added functionality that htc brings to android on their devices. Perhaps if there would be a wonderfully themed metamorph and some htc themed dialer and contact apps available on the market I'd totally be on aosp. Since there are all these developers out here banking off of htc themed apps ie flip clocks, widgets and home replacements, I don't see why the htc corporation just not turn their famous ui into a highly advanced home replacement app! And/or convert their famous widgets into android widgets for sale on the market. I'd be willing to pay spb 3d shell money for all of that. They can definitely bank off of selling their ui to those that don't buy their devices and to Those who buy their devices, root and flash aosp on their devices. It can be a win/ win situation for them. And btw, they would kill any home replacement app on the market right now if they were to release a home replacement app based on sense3.0!
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The most themeable launcher with a doc that I've seen is Go Launcher
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.gau.go.launcherex
Go launcher isn't very sense like though if that matters. It's more like vanilla android or sort of like touchwiz on samsung phones.
With LauncherPro Plus and the theme support of widgets you can pretty much have a sense like ui.
Yea but I'm not talking about an idea for a home replacement appz I'm talking about just a dock replacement app, or dock overlay. Something that is put on top of the default dock to be used with the current rom and can be used alongside the proprietary widgets. Launcher pro is the best home replacement app to mimic sense but sense 2.1 and the upcoming 3.0 has surpassed launcher pro. The developer can updated it to have much of those features but who knows if he will and when he will. A simple dock overlay with a few enhancements can save app storage space and be easier on the cpu. I've noticed when I have more than 3 home replacement apps installed, sense starts to get a bit laggy. It would be nice to be able to still experience sense entirely but with a few added enhancements.
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Yea but I'm not talking about an idea for a home replacement appz I'm talking about just a dock replacement app, or dock overlay. Something that is put on top of the default dock to be used with the current rom and can be used alongside the proprietary widgets. Launcher pro is the best home replacement app to mimic sense but sense 2.1 and the upcoming 3.0 has surpassed launcher pro. The developer can updated it to have much of those features but who knows if he will and when he will. A simple dock overlay with a few enhancements can save app storage space and be easier on the cpu. I've noticed when I have more than 3 home replacement apps installed, sense starts to get a bit laggy. It would be nice to be able to still experience sense entirely but with a few added enhancements.
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Problem with launchers those widgets are bundled with them on android is they're generally not sharable. App independent ones like pandora don't have that problem, but the launcher ones seem to be be tied into the launchers and wont play nicely. People have ported out or cloned ones from launchers, but I am guessing the actual ones are just too tied to the launcher code to be standalone.
True but the idea I'm talking about is not a home replacement launcher. I'm talking about a dock overlay. Something that can be used with the default launcher, widgets etc. Look up dock4droid on the market. The idea stemmed from that. Specifically what I'd like to see is a replacement Rosie dock that covers the default dock with extra app shortcuts that are scrollable like launcher pros dock.
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I personally like launcher pro but since development has slowed to just about a stop i am using adw. How is go launcher and windows 7 launcher?
Launcher Pro and Beautiful Widgets is my fave combination.
I still prefer this to Sense.
I use Go and Beautiful WIdgets. GO seems to be developing pretty strongly, and it does just about anything I want it to. And it works well in conjunction with the other GO apps like dialer and sms.
ADW here... I've used it on my Dinc and now on my TB... Rock solid.
I've been using ADW lately and I'm very pleased with it.
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ADW EX here. I've been glad I switched since the day it came out. Just seems smoother overall than stock ADW. I was an LP user for a while but seemed like it started getting bloated with things I'd never use. It may have gotten better recently as I haven't tried it since EX came out but for me, after using LP, ADW, and ADW EX, my personal choice has been EX and I haven't found a reason to move on.
I prefer LP. It keeps things simple and I can back it up which is convenient when flashing.
lol...I remember when adw and LP first came on the scene - a lot of people loved them for their simplicity - then the feature wars began...
ADW EX for me.
GOLauncher ftw. Hands down the best launcher from not only a visually impressive setup but a functionalvone as well. Im taking gulps of the go dev teams koolaid. I use launcher gowns contacts and dialer. Need more themes but other than that best imo.
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What functions or features are you guys using to justify using a launcher?
I hate that the HTC mail and HTC messaging icons don't show the counts, at least I couldn't figure out how to do it on launcher pro.
i'm using launcher pro now but I'm probably going back to the windows 7 launcher. It's simplicity is refreshing, the only downside is I don't get to see my p retty wallpapers as much, but I find it more useful
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GOLauncher ftw. Hands down the best launcher from not only a visually impressive setup but a functionalvone as well. Im taking gulps of the go dev teams koolaid. I use launcher gowns contacts and dialer. Need more themes but other than that best imo.
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They just released some sort of themeing API so we should see a lot more a lot faster.
I hate they got rid of the dark icons in the default set, they had both white and black and a few weeks back an update removed all the black versions.
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What functions or features are you guys using to justify using a launcher?
I hate that the HTC mail and HTC messaging icons don't show the counts, at least I couldn't figure out how to do it on launcher pro.
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I think smoothness, options of dock/screens and app drawer customization are the most important for me. So is displaying counts and hiding the notifications bar.
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They just released some sort of themeing API so we should see a lot more a lot faster.
I hate they got rid of the dark icons in the default set, they had both white and black and a few weeks back an update removed all the black versions.
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No ****? I know the had one before that I tried playing with but it was terrible. lol. It just straight up didnt work. Imma check into that. Good lookin out dude.
Anyone running CM7 having issues with ADW Ex going to landscape and then back to portrait? I get a black screen and then FC about 30 seconds later. I'd be using ADW Ex full time if this wasn't an issue. As it is now I'm using LP :-/
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Laucnher Pro and Beautiful Widgets is my fave combination.
I still prefer this to Sense.
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Same for me except I prefer Sense over it. If I'm on a vanilla ROM, you can bet I'd be using Launcher Pro and Beautiful Widgets.
I'm using GO Launcher EX (just discovered it this week), I think I'm in love, runs awesome on my CM7 1.2 TBolt, totally customizable, just switched to GO SMS as well from Handcent and am loving it too.
I had been using LPro forever and am glad I decided to try GO.
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This doesn't even belong in this forum.
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huh? A question posted doesn't belong in the q&a section?
Just trying out adw ex launcher now y'all got me going over to the market to check out this go launcher...
Probably stick with adw since I just bought 3 themes.
Go Launcher EX and FancyWidgets Pro.
i prefer Launcher Pro because of the menu system at the bottom of the screen. i hate putting shortcuts/widgets on the screen(like to keep it clutter free) so it's nice to that menu at the bottom.
i know that go launcher ex is similiar, but i don't like the 5 screen thing and i don't like those dots it puts in the upper center of the screen indicating which screen you're on.
adw i have never cared for because of it's menu system setup at the bottom.
as for Windows 7 launcher... if that intrigues you why do you have a Thunderbolt?
Ive been looking through peoples themes and what not and Im curious as how to change icons and screens, is it a skin or is it the rom or what? Just for example i like how some people have the circle battery instead of the battery icon and things like that, if someone could help me out id appreciate it alot. Thanks in advance
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Ive been looking through peoples themes and what not and Im curious as how to change icons and screens, is it a skin or is it the rom or what? Just for example i like how some people have the circle battery instead of the battery icon and things like that, if someone could help me out id appreciate it alot. Thanks in advance
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Things like the circle battery and anything on the taskbar are either going to be part of a rom or a theme. You can do them individually yourself but you would have to do some research on theming. You also need to be rooted with s-off. If you like a more stock look rather than sense launchers like launcher pro from the market offer a lot of themes and icon packs that can be installed with or without root.
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Things like the circle battery and anything on the taskbar are either going to be part of a rom or a theme. You can do them individually yourself but you would have to do some research on theming. You also need to be rooted with s-off. If you like a more stock look rather than sense launchers like launcher pro from the market offer a lot of themes and icon packs that can be installed with or without root.
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Im currently rooted S-Off running Bamf 3.0 Sence RC4.9 what exactly are launchers? Sorry just trying to figure out what everything is...
A launcher is what runs the whole user interface. Home screens, dockbars, icons, and shortcuts. HTC phones comes with sense. (except the g1, g2, and nexus 1) Sense is actually more than just the launcher its a while UI overlay. Sense's launcher is really called rosie but that's not really important here unless you are planing on learning to theme. If you look in the market there are launchers like Launcher Pro, ADW, and their variants plus many more. Just search launchers and try one out. When you press your home button it will let you choose sense or whichever other launcher you have installed. If you try one just read the instructions and play around with it. Plus search the market for themes built for the launcher you d/l. (for example...search ADW themes in the market) Everything on your sense screens will remain the same. If you want to stick with sense 3.0 that comes with BAMF 3.0 try some BAMF themes. I would check out rootzwiki or teambamf.net. I doubt you will find them here.
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I'm running th3ory now.... not sure what version I think its the newest one out
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