If, or shall I say, WHEN we get 2.3 on our Vibrant's, we do NOT update if we are rooted and running a custom ROM, right? Thanks guys,
IF it rolls out, we will have our hands on it before OTA is a thought. You would just get a custom rom and flash it, or at least that is what I do. Others may prefer to do completely stock. Lots of options, but then again, we are talking about the future.
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Hey guys, Im completely new to rooting and im getting a rezound in a couple days and i just had a few simple questions that i couldnt find the answers too else where.
1. If I root my rezound will i still be able to receive all the regular updates like the verizon updates and upcoming OS updates? If not what can i do to get those?(Correct me if im wrong but I would assume that i would have to reverse my root somehow if the answer was no but im not sure how to do that)
2. If i root do i have to install a ROM?(Note:Im planning to remove htc sense as soon as i root and install a new launcher...idk if that has anything to do with having to install a ROM but i figured i should ask)
if you plan to stay on the original rom after you root, im pretty sure that you will be able to recieve the actual ota when its released. but you say that you plan to delete a lot of htc stuff (im assuming bloatware and things like that)...i would HIGHLY recommend just flashing a rom with all of that done for you. unless you know what youre doing, removing htc stuff by yourself can be detrimental to your phone and cause it to not work as it should. im currently running cleanrom 4.1 and its incredible. flashing a rom would be the best way to go
hope this helped.
yes that help, thanks. so if i were to use cleanrom 4.1 and i wanted to get the official ICS update when it released, what would have to do to be able to install it?
Forgive me for being a noob but I am going to attempt my first post I usually just read but feel I may be able to give a quality answer. SO, If you make a nandroid backup before flashing any rom's you will be able to revert back to stock at any time. You can do this via a custom recovery. In order to get an OTA, like the ICS one that is coming soon, you will have to reload your stock rom. Simply put, you cannot get an OTA with a custom rom. If you want a custom rom now and an OTA update later, make a backup and revert back to it when the OTA you want is released. Hope this helps!
One thing that nobody seems to ever mention is do NOT do anything to your phone for the first 30 days because you want to make sure you have a solid phone.
If your phone is constantly malfunctioning because of a problem with the phone, but you have already rooted your phone and flashed a new ROM, then you're going to be nothing but frustrated because you will think it's the ROM, or perhaps something you did when rooting the phone.
If you have a problem within the first 30 days and you have not rooted or flashed a new ROM all you do is walk in to Verizon, tell them the phone is brand new, but having issues with [insert problem here] and you get a brand new phone with all your info transfered for free, and another 30 days to make sure your replacement is not defective as well.
Sent from the resounding Rezound
very good tips! thanks guys, your answers are highly appreciated!
Aaronmc
What device are you coming from? I went from an OG Droid1 to the Rezound and actually love Sense. I think you should try it out first before cutting it out completely. If you wish you can leave the stock Status Bar/SystemUI and install a different launcher as that will disable most of the Sense elements, ~90% of it. As far as OTA's go, unconfirmed whether or not you can update from the recent leak. Make sure you have stock rom available or do not flash the recent leak and choose one of the older roms (Can always RUU back to the stock rom when official hits). I suggest Rezrom 3.1 with the old firmware patch as for me it's been so far the most stable and best battery life ICS rom I have used.
1. No, you won't be able to get OTA updates. But don't worry too much about that. It takes about a week, but the devs will post a manual method or you can use the RUU that usually preceeds the OTA by a day or two.
2. Don't try to disable sense from the stock ROM. It'll be trouble, I tried it for a while back when we only had temp root and it made it buggy and smoked the battery. Flash some ROMs and let the pros get that stuff worked out for you (and throw your favorite dev a few bucks to keep him interested!)
The real consequence of rooting though is the countless late nights flashing yet another new build or theme or whatever. It's kind of addicting.
Hey guys,
Thought upgrade to ICS, and have some thoughts. I have modded quite a lot on the phone (rooted, kernels, cpu scripts / hacks, etc.) and believe that all these made my phone unstable and sluggish.
What would be the easiest way for me to upgrade to ICS via OTA, and do a full factory reset on the phone? I sit on 651.73.30.XT910.Retail.en.EU 2.3.5.
Is there a universal flash you can use in order to get the phone to default?
I found a few threads that could help me but I am still a noob with Android, and am not sure if they are safe for me.
I am extremely grateful for any response, Thanks in advance
My build is 6.5.1-73_SPU-11-M1-2, if that would ease your process of helping me.
Could I not just restore the phone to original settings and get ICS over OTA?
I noticed that many threads similar to mine show up here, but hopefully I can get a helping hand here and I will do my best to help Anyone with a similar question.
From what I know, you cannot receive OTA updates to the same OS you are on, no matter the version. I personally would look over all your hacks and tweaks and try to figure out what is making the device unstable... Other than that, all that comes to mind is fastbooting to Gingerbread and trying to get to ICS via OTA that way. I've never done this and know little about it, however. I wouldn't recommend it unless it becomes necessity.
Hopefully that helps somehow...
I got my GS4 back in the summer and I promptly rooted and I believe I even was able to unlock the bootloader. I then flashed Eclipse S4 TW edition (based on MDK) and its been so rock solid I haven't had a reason to touch is since. I'm been staring at my android 4.2.2 version and have been thinking no reason to upgrade. If it isn't broke don't fix it right? Well I'm starting to feel the flashing itch so I decided to jump back on XDA and see whats out there.
I'm trying to get a grasp on what all has changes since the last time I flashed my phone. It looks like there has been a few new builds to drop since I flashed. I'm confused on the details though. With my current state can I flash anything I want using the custom recovery or are there restrictions that I must follow. I have seen posts about using SafeStrap for flashing. I remember SafeStrap from my Razr days as a solution for phones with locked bootloaders. Does one of the OTA's relock the bootloader and make it impossible to unlock or are the SafeStrap posts for people that got the phones after me which already came with a locked bootloader?
Any reason why not to upgrade to the newest builds? I can't find any details on what is different between the builds but I have to imagine there is some new stuff that I might want to play with.
Lastly, can anyone suggest a good solid ROM to similar to Eclipse TW that is based on a newer build?
I appreciate any help you guys can give me. Being away this long and coming back is slightly overwhelming and who has time to navigate through every page of every thread for the past 6 months or so.
I would suggest to read some of the threads....custom Roms for 4.3 and 4.4 are a bit slow in coming. If you are mdk...no need for safestrap....you can still keep your phone rooted and loki'd..and move to 4.3 base
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I got my GS4 back in the summer and I promptly rooted and I believe I even was able to unlock the bootloader. I then flashed Eclipse S4 TW edition (based on MDK) and its been so rock solid I haven't had a reason to touch is since. I'm been staring at my android 4.2.2 version and have been thinking no reason to upgrade. If it isn't broke don't fix it right? Well I'm starting to feel the flashing itch so I decided to jump back on XDA and see whats out there.
I'm trying to get a grasp on what all has changes since the last time I flashed my phone. It looks like there has been a few new builds to drop since I flashed. I'm confused on the details though. With my current state can I flash anything I want using the custom recovery or are there restrictions that I must follow. I have seen posts about using SafeStrap for flashing. I remember SafeStrap from my Razr days as a solution for phones with locked bootloaders. Does one of the OTA's relock the bootloader and make it impossible to unlock or are the SafeStrap posts for people that got the phones after me which already came with a locked bootloader?
Any reason why not to upgrade to the newest builds? I can't find any details on what is different between the builds but I have to imagine there is some new stuff that I might want to play with.
Lastly, can anyone suggest a good solid ROM to similar to Eclipse TW that is based on a newer build?
I appreciate any help you guys can give me. Being away this long and coming back is slightly overwhelming and who has time to navigate through every page of every thread for the past 6 months or so.
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Ok, So heres what you missed. After the MDK release they(Verizon/Samsung) patched the loki bootloader hack so thats why anybody whos not on the MDK release has an locked bootloader. That is where safestrap comes in. Safestrap is a custom recovery that was developed by Hascode, in order to provide those with a locked bootloader a way to get in on the rom action, while keeping there stock rom untouched.
Now that said i would advise you to update but not through the stock "Check Update" tab (as that will lock your phones bootloader). Instead you should just flash a rom that is built with the new update as the base (E.X. Hyperdrive 11). This will allow you to get the new update without locking your bootloader.
Now for roms, i believe there is an updated Eclipse TW Rom & Eclipse AOSP ROM on the Dev's site ( dont know the link but will post it once i find it).
I'm just your average Android enthusiast, not nearly as talented and skilled as you devs, but I know my way around my phone. I am currently rocking the Galaxy S4 SCH-I545 NC5 (Rooted with Towelroot and Safestrap 3.72 installed). I never thought highly of Samsung's user interface and have wanted to upgrade to CM forever, but as each new update comes I really, really want it, so I carelessly take the OTA. I've done this far too many times so I decided to disable the system update app so I wouldn't be bothered by the new updates that come around.
Anyway, I think it's time to upgrade to Lollipop now that it's available, but I really want to keep root access, and since you guys are the professionals, I want to know the best way to flash the new update instead of take the OTA, which, if I'm not mistaken, will let me keep root and the small possibility that I can get Cyanogen some day. Is it best for me to just go ahead and take the risk-free OTA update, or should I flash? If so, can someone guide me through the process? I'm sorry if this sounds like child's play to you but I don't want to brick my phone in any situation, so it'd be great if someone could help me with this. Thanks in advance!
Screenshots for more information:
http://imgur.com/CIBx5qY,KHATxkV,fKyJcoB#2
Update: I followed a tutorial to update to OC1, but was not successful (Wouldn't boot). I used Odin to reflash the NC5 and now I'm back where I started. Anyone have an idea?
Here's the link to the tutorial:
http://zidroid.com/how-to-update-keep-root-verizon-galaxy-s4-on-lollipop-oc1/#comment-6589
Edit: Tried this twice, both didn't work. I'm considering just taking the OTA and not getting root. What should I do?
We are in the "soon" state from january, first with 5.0 and now with 5.1 and this phone is pratically becoming "motorola moto indians" considering that only them are getting soak and/or updates, so, what do you guys think? wait or go for a custom? i'd flash a custom now but i read everywhere people that have problems going back to stock after flashing custom roms on the E and someone says that this is the easiest phone to brick (why? dunno)
ps. yeah i really want to change, stock 4.4.4 it's giving me problems and since i need to reset soon i want to upgrade.
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We are in the "soon" state from january, first with 5.0 and now with 5.1 and this phone is pratically becoming "motorola moto indians" considering that only them are getting soak and/or updates, so, what do you guys think? wait or go for a custom? i'd flash a custom now but i read everywhere people that have problems going back to stock after flashing custom roms on the E and someone says that this is the easiest phone to brick (why? dunno)
ps. yeah i really want to change, stock 4.4.4 it's giving me problems and since i need to reset soon i want to upgrade.
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That someone is probably me I guess? Well ya, some devices are unbrickable but some devices like this one are easily brickable [emoji20] One bad move and you would end up with a bricked device with no rescue. There's more that can happen, unfortunately Please be careful, do not depend on OTAs much because they are the most famous sources of bricks. Always prefer flashing ROMs via TWRP latest. Also, if you want stock, ask someone to upload their TWRP backup of system and boot partitions if you already have messed up with OTAs before because at this point of time, we really don't know which OTA can brick the device so please stay away from them and prefer custom ROMs or TWRP nandroid backups [emoji55]
if i flash a custom rom like cm or whatever, will be easy to go back to stock 5.1? (when the update will be officially available)
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if i flash a custom rom like cm or whatever, will be easy to go back to stock 5.1? (when the update will be officially available)
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Once the factory image is released, I guess it'll be easy to flash it via fastboot.