Can't use 3G only to save battery... - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I wanna save battery by using 3G only but everytime i put it into CDMA PRL auto mode it just shuts off my internet... i live near dallas, any ideas?

Nikolai2.1 said:
I wanna save battery by using 3G only but everytime i put it into CDMA PRL auto mode it just shuts off my internet... i live near dallas, any ideas?
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3g is evdo
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No if you put it in evdo mode you don't get phone calls. Plus I tried and no 3g
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Nikolai2.1 said:
No if you put it in evdo mode you don't get phone calls. Plus I tried and no 3g
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hmm well that's what I'm using right now and I just got a phone call.
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Nikolai2.1 said:
I wanna save battery by using 3G only but everytime i put it into CDMA PRL auto mode it just shuts off my internet... i live near dallas, any ideas?
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Cdma prl auto works fine for me.
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Just to be perfectly clear, CDMA PRL Auto is the proper mode to switch to.
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jeffnucci said:
Just to be perfectly clear, CDMA PRL Auto is the proper mode to switch to.
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That's what I'm saying. But mine just shuts off signal if LTE isn't on fo some reason
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I get no internet on cdma auto either. Even after a reboot. Ping says network unreachable.
Sadface.

Dallas/Richardson area here, having the same problem. Data only working on 4G, nothing on evdo/1x.

Same here on two Thunderbolts in Los Angeles. I actually haven't seen 3G at all since Friday night. Called Verizon and apparently there is an issue with 3G provisioning. They claim they are working on it and that there will be a fix in the next day. I know others say they fixed it with a hard reset but I don't want to do that if I don't have to, especially if its just going to break again later...

xtermmin said:
Dallas/Richardson area here
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same here plano/richardson
good i think that means the phone isnt broken!
/me tazers Verizon

Hey guys I had the same issue in Baltimore, MD area and for me I had to factory reset and the 3g is now working when using cdma auto and its been running for about an hour now
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Weird. Mine never had that problem.

Did a factory reset now (since I hardly customized my phone yet), and it seems to have fixed the 3G problem. Not only that, but now I have the updated market! (Before the reset, I had the old market)

Go to the market and download Restart Connections. If you lose mobile network after switching to the proper setting, run that app.
Edit: This will also get rid of the need to do a factory reset to regain data connection

xtermmin said:
Did a factory reset now , and it seems to have fixed the 3G problem.
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ltbakken said:
Go to the market and download Restart Connections.
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neither of these fix it for me. as far as i can tell there is no 3g for TB in dallas.
only 4g and wifi get internet access.

rizzomegav said:
neither of these fix it for me. as far as i can tell there is no 3g for TB in dallas.
only 4g and wifi get internet access.
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it worked for me after a while. i turned it on outside my house and it worked, but for some reason my home wouldnt let me switch

Had a similar issue. Figured out that when I switch from LTE to CDMA (PRL) it will switch to 3g, it can take a while, however if I power off the phone it will not connect on reboot to 3g again have to switch back to LTE and go to 4g and then switch back again. Hope this helps

3g just started working and i did nothing (other than going without internet for hours until it started working).
im blaming Verizon and my local network.

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3G Internet not workin...

cant get internet to work. 4G, wifi works but not 3G and i cant call to have it worked on cause its my only phone...
anyone experience this?
Go into wireless &networks & switch to 2G
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bhargrove06 said:
Go into wireless &networks & switch to 2G
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This is cdma not gsm. You need to update your profile in system updates. Then dial *17
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chesarae.garza said:
cant get internet to work. 4G, wifi works but not 3G and i cant call to have it worked on cause its my only phone...
anyone experience this?
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I had this issue when I first got my OG evo, I called in and they walked through altering some settings, took me some time arguing with them but it worked

Any way to disable LTE 4G and 3G data?

I am always on wifi so I don't need LTE, 4G, HSPA or 3G.... is there any way I can force 2G or edge only on an AT&T locked Galaxy Note i717? I've looked all over the forums and people say go into the menu and select that option, but it doesn't work. Same with apps, don't work. I've read flashing a different modem will enable that option to work, but won't I need an unlocked phone to do so?
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Why in the world would you want to do that. Why go to 2G? Why not just turn the data off
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Justinfedor said:
Why in the world would you want to do that. Why go to 2G? Why not just turn the data off
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Well like I said I'm on wifi all day and don't need LTE killing my battery for no reason. And, so I can still send or receive pictures.
LTE/Data is automatically disabled when you connect to wifi. No need to do anything. It will turn itself on automatically to receive/send mms.
c6comp said:
LTE/Data is automatically disabled when you connect to wifi. No need to do anything. It will turn itself on automatically to receive/send mms.
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100% truth
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Im guess the op really meant to say how to turn it off when not using wifi?
otherwise, like you guys mentioned, it turns off automatcially when wifi connects
and 2G still exists?
c6comp said:
LTE/Data is automatically disabled when you connect to wifi. No need to do anything. It will turn itself on automatically to receive/send mms.
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So by forcing 2G I'm not going to see any battery improvement since it's automatically turned off since I'm always on wifi?
mazdamiata210 said:
So by forcing 2G I'm not going to see any battery improvement since it's automatically turned off since I'm always on wifi?
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...yes.
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erick161 said:
...yes.
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I find that very hard to believe since on my iPhone forcing Edge gave me almost 3 times my battery life.
mazdamiata210 said:
I find that very hard to believe since on my iPhone forcing Edge gave me almost 3 times my battery life.
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That is Apple's "innovation" for you right there. This is Android. Android turns off cellular data when on wifi and only turns it on when needed for MMS.
You notice how when on wifi you don't see a 4g icon? Send an mms and you will see it pop up long enough for the message to be sent and then disappear.
That is your phone automatically enabling/disabling cellular data when needed/not needed.
Ok, well to get this back on track I'd like to force 2G or even 3G no matter what. Any solution for me?
Dial *#*#4636#*#* and hit phone information. Scroll down and in the drop down list and choose GSM Only. Reboot.
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Dial *#*#4636#*#* and hit phone information. Scroll down and in the drop down list and choose GSM Only. Reboot.
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There's no option for GSM only.
mazdamiata210 said:
So by forcing 2G I'm not going to see any battery improvement since it's automatically turned off since I'm always on wifi?
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Nope. Even on wifi, say If you're sending or receiving MMS it will use your data (4G or LTE). Also, unless you have it turned on while the phone is asleep, your phone will switch back to 4G for downloading or synchronize data. 2G takes longer to download information because of he slower speed which causes the phone to drain battery because the phone would still be downloading the data.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
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SKyRocKeting727 said:
Nope. Even on wifi, say If you're sending or receiving MMS it will use your data (4G or LTE). Also, unless you have it turned on while the phone is asleep, your phone will switch back to 4G for downloading or synchronize data. 2G takes longer to download information because of he slower speed which causes the phone to drain battery because the phone would still be downloading the data.
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Ok well I want it to do that via 2G
mazdamiata210 said:
There's no option for GSM only.
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Thats a lie. You hit phone information and scroll down. Click the dropbox and it says gsm only.
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Justinfedor said:
Thats a lie. You hit phone information and scroll down. Click the dropbox and it says gsm only.
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K... if you say so...
http://db.tt/4TwHJqew
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K... if you say so...
http://db.tt/4TwHJqew
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Looks like when you root and rom your phone you cant have that option. If your not in an lte area then choose lte/gsm auto. That should force u on 2G if no lte in area
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Justinfedor said:
Looks like when you root and rom your phone you cant have that option. If your not in an lte area then choose lte/gsm auto. That should force u on 2G if no lte in area
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I can't select anything except for LTE/GSM/CMDA auto. If I pick anything else it reverts back to that.

Notc connecting to LTE fixed

For some reason i could connect to LTE for about 30 seconds before my phone would revert to 3G. no matter how many times i updated prl or profile.
Solution: used Network from app store to switch from CDMA+LTE AUTO to LTE,CDMA. now getting lightning fast LTE all the time.
Nice.
I was having the same problem, could you explain what you did exactly? There is an app called network that allows you to change this?
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tomplatz said:
Solution: used Network from app store to switch from CDMA+LTE AUTO to LTE,CDMA. now getting lightning fast LTE all the time.
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Which "Network" app did you use? Play Store shows like 19,000 apps when I search on just "network"!
Thanks!
Dave
'Network' on AppBrain: http://www.appbrain.com/app/de.mangelow.network
I'll try this out, I've been dialing *#*#4636#*#* and selecting lte/cdma, this may make it easier to switch
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Just remember...the resets when you reboot and keeps your phone from connecting to ehrpd (i think)
Still running tests
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Working good for me as soon as i changed the settings.... Been on lte since then without getting on 3g.... This is good...
Thanks
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00mred00 said:
Just remember...the resets when you reboot and keeps your phone from connecting to ehrpd (i think)
Still running tests
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Whats ehrpd ?
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App works well, good shortcut..
I just have to set it back to cdma, lte+evdo/auto when I leave an lte area.. Then 3g/4g/1x hand offs appears to function normally..
Lte+cdma lets me maintain 4g down to 1 bar otherwise it drops down to 3g for no reason I can tell..
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Whats ehrpd ?
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Enhanced High Rate Packet Data (eHRPD). eHRPD is an enhancement of 1xEV-DO (AKA HRPD) that enables LTE to CDMA handover.
00mred00, do you know a way around this problem? I'm just not getting LTE if I don't change my network like this. Seems odd that we should have to do this at all. Is this a problem of the freshROM or a coverage problem or what?
Thanks for the intel.
It happens because sprint has flipped the switch early and less than half of lte towers are on and are still not fully powered up. The 3g signal is stronger (although slower) than the 4g.. Sprint has said that there lte isn't fully functional and that it's currently mostly for outdoor use
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It happens because sprint has flipped the switch early and less than half of lte towers are on and are still not fully powered up. The 3g signal is stronger (although slower) than the 4g.. Sprint has said that there lte isn't fully fictional and that it's currently mostly for outdoor use
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I will have to try this next week when I am in an area supposedly with LTE on but it's not accessible
Yes! This works! I was having the same issue and sprint stores and tech support could never help! This definitely is the fix. Makes me so angry that it is just a setting on the phone. The people at the Sprint stores were insisting that there was nothing wrong. Dirty liars.
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jshow816 said:
It happens because sprint has flipped the switch early and less than half of lte towers are on and are still not fully powered up. The 3g signal is stronger (although slower) than the 4g.. Sprint has said that there lte isn't fully functional and that it's currently mostly for outdoor use
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This is pretty much what I have found here in Dallas. I am not convinced we we need a permanent solution for this reason.
For example...the areas I have to do this in are not officially up and running yet. (keep in mind not all of the "orange" is officially up yet either)
I continue to test it. Right now I want to say Atlanta is the furthest in completion
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Battery + temperature on "edge" (1x network)

Hey guys,
I'm finding that when my phone is in an area with very poor data and goes to 1x mode that after a few minutes the phone will get very hot and it seems to drink battery like no one's business.
I'm wondering if there's a way to disable 1x at all? It's pretty much useless anyways these days the throughput isn't even enough to really even send / receive emails from my server let alone anything else.
I'm finding myself having to manually disable mobile data when I notice it's occurring (which I don't always). really the only way I notice is why my pocket starts getting warm =)
Thanks!
This also has been happening to me. In school a lot of my classes are in the basement and I get terrible reception.
Turn off Mobile data then?
Poor service and battery use have always gone hand in hand.
Set up a toggle to turn off your data connection at those times? You'll still get texts and phone calls.
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NaterTots said:
Turn off Mobile data then?
Poor service and battery use have always gone hand in hand.
Set up a toggle to turn off your data connection at those times? You'll still get texts and phone calls.
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I stated that I would do this in my first post but I also stated that I don't always notice it. It sucks to lose 30-50% of your battery life before you realize you're in power drain mode.
Does anyone know if I can just disable the 1X antenna completely (permanently) at all times?
Thanks!
If I'm not mistaken 1x is data roaming, so disabling the roam option in your data settings should eliminate it
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thicklizard said:
If I'm not mistaken 1x is data roaming, so disabling the roam option in your data settings should eliminate it
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If thays so then thanks TL!
I had always thought it was just a poor connection which put you on 1x because the data connection was so slow.
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1x (also known as CDMA2000) isn't data roaming, but it is a very slow data connection.
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FinZ28 said:
1x (also known as CDMA2000) isn't data roaming, but it is a very slow data connection.
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I guess I am mistaken
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thicklizard said:
I guess I am mistaken
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1x is essentially 2g. EVDO is 3g.
You will know you are romaing when your signal bars have a triangle on top of them. That is the only roaming indicator.
When your on 1X your Phone Constantly tries to connect to 3G/LTE your battery ifs drained from your phone trying to connect to 3G
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If I'm not mistaken 1x is data roaming, so disabling the roam option in your data settings should eliminate it
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Couldn't find the options you're referring to under "mobile network settings"
you can change roaming mode - but none of these settings seems like it would work.
Am I missing something? Thanks for the reply!
NaterTots said:
Turn off Mobile data then?
Poor service and battery use have always gone hand in hand.
Set up a toggle to turn off your data connection at those times? You'll still get texts and phone calls.
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This is what will preserve your battery life from a poor connection if it bothers you.
1x is not roaming. Its a very slow connection due to a poor connection.
Roam settings is in mobile connections. It will give you some options for roaming.
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You are permanently damaging your battery if it is running hot
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raclimja said:
You are permanently damaging your battery if it is running hot
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The problem is I'm not doing it by choice this is on the stock ROM or any other Sense ROM I've tried (OMJ, Fresh, Stock Rejuv)

[Q] Anyone else having LET/eHRPD issues on northern NJ?

thinking Verizon is having a bad day... cannot connect or force LTE and 3g eHRPD fails then I eventually get evdo A
also...##778# on my thunderbolt used to bring up a menu where I could alter the modern setting to only look for evdo rev a for 3g... which is a life saver in times like this... is that setting hiding somewhere on the DNA?
thanks in advance
and pardon the predictive text mistakes on lte, in, and modem lol
not having any issues with my DNA, but wife has not been able to get any data connection on her inc4g all day
edit: we live in central nj
In PA I've had very little data connectivity since 10:30 am
crpalmer said:
In PA I've had very little data connectivity since 10:30 am
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thanks for the 411...I'm in northwest Jersey... Sussex county so I bet they're having issues up in that neck of the woods..
out running errands and in Wayne now...4g back and running.. but I had nothing in northern Bergen county either until my phone finally found the evdo rev A there... tough when relying on it as your GPS!
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not having any issues with my DNA, but wife has not been able to get any data connection on her inc4g all day
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cool... do you happen to know whether the DNA has a similar way to get to the modem settings that the##778# used to initialize on the thunderbolt?
bakemcbride21 said:
cool... do you happen to know whether the DNA has a similar way to get to the modem settings that the##778# used to initialize on the thunderbolt?
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You mean like this.
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You mean like this.
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nope.. on the HTC thunderbolt.. dialing ##778# would initialize an EPST menu where you would select edit mode...
from there at the password prompt you would put in 000000
at the full EPST menu you would select modem settings
in that sub menu.. select Rev A
by default it was set to eHRPD.. but if you changed it to enable, commit the modification and reboot,it would force rev a 3g data which was a godsend when Verizon was having LTE/ eHRPD outages... as they always seem to go hand in hand
I'm down in Wilmington, DE and was having issues up until about 2 hours ago. No data at all...
same man. live in north nj. got a razr m and i was getting no data this morning. strange....
Here in MD I was having issues. Seems to be good now.
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Yeah i had no data at all in central Virginia for a couple of hours around noon time. Back to normal now. Maybe it was an east coast issue.
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Northern VA, no data then solid 3g, still haven't gotten 4g back yet.
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nope.. on the HTC thunderbolt.. dialing ##778# would initialize an EPST menu where you would select edit mode...
from there at the password prompt you would put in 000000
at the full EPST menu you would select modem settings
in that sub menu.. select Rev A
by default it was set to eHRPD.. but if you changed it to enable, commit the modification and reboot,it would force rev a 3g data which was a godsend when Verizon was having LTE/ eHRPD outages... as they always seem to go hand in hand
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You could only do that because the thunderbolt had the weirdest radio set up known to man. It had 2 seperate radios in it.
But you can get into EPST with ##778
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You could only do that because the thunderbolt had the weirdest radio set up known to man. It had 2 seperate radios in it.
But you can get into EPST with ##778
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##778 nor ##778# works on my DNA
and yes there were a lot of weird things about the Thunderbolt! Lol
do you know of any way to force rev A 3g on this phone? huge time and headache savior on days like these!
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You could only do that because the thunderbolt had the weirdest radio set up known to man. It had 2 seperate radios in it.
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So did my beloved Rezound.
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If I do either of those then wait a while, like 30 seconds to a minute, a menu pops up saying edit mode or view mode. Edit mode requires a password which I don't know, but view mode does not.
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I have had lousy service in the Newark <-> Jersey City areas, on and off, for the last two weeks. It's seriously frustrating. Today I had an outage as well. When I do have service, my download speeds are 100kb/s. Why?? Where's my "like Wi-Fi speeds" Verizon keeps saying in their commercial. Ugh.
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Where's my "like Wi-Fi speeds" Verizon keeps saying in their commercial. Ugh.
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They're at my house
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Bigandrewgold said:
If I do either of those then wait a while, like 30 seconds to a minute, a menu pops up saying edit mode or view mode. Edit mode requires a password which I don't know, but view mode does not.
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I'll be damned! on the thunderbolt it appeared quickly...I never waited long enough.
it doesn't appear every time, actually mostly not, but it did finally appear.
the password is 000000.
this is exactly what I needed earlier today

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