When I select "Standalone GPS"under settings, the two lines are always showing next to the location icon. However, with the other two GPS settings selected, nothing shows next to the location icon, is it actually using battery with that on?
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Chris Hansen said:
When I select "Standalone GPS"under settings, the two lines are always showing next to the location icon. However, with the other two GPS settings selected, nothing shows next to the location icon, is it actually using battery with that on?
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That is normal...even on non smartphones...it is 911 location services and no it doesnt consume more battery with the crosshair indicator there and no actual satelite usuage indicator... it remains dormant until called up.
Ok, thanks. I just thought it was odd that it looked like it was sending out signal with either the Standalone GPS or Verizon Location setting enabled.
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Ok, thanks. I just thought it was odd that it looked like it was sending out signal with either the Standalone GPS or Verizon Location setting enabled.
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i cant speak to whether its drawing power, but if you open maps,nav, or something else that uses gps you will see a different icon come up indicating data transfer to/from sats
Should i leave the vz and google location services also toggled on? Or will this also save battery if i leave it off?
Cg006 said:
Should i leave the vz and google location services also toggled on? Or will this also save battery if i leave it off?
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you dont need vz location services unless you use their products i would think. i leave google services on so i can atleast get a general idea where i am on the google maps.
Yeah google location services is all you need. I think weather widget uses it as well so you need something to be on.
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i cant speak to whether its drawing power, but if you open maps,nav, or something else that uses gps you will see a different icon come up indicating data transfer to/from sats
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Yeah, I know, I'm no newcomer to the Android platform, but I didn't have this icon on my OG Droid, and this was a different icon than the standard location icon, so that's why I asked.
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So like everyone else, I have been having problems with the GPS on fascinate like other Galaxy S devices. However, on EB01 it works the best I have seen it work.
From a few other suggestions that I have gathered from these forums and my testing, here are the results of my testing. I compared the Fascinate against Motorola Droid that I have laying around running CM GB nightly 40.
Test settings
Wifi, 3G radios were OFF to measure pure GPS performance. GPS Test app was left running for 10 minutes with the phone screens on.
Fascinate - GPS turned on from settings menu, google location services on, VZW location services on
Droid OG - GPS turned on from settings menu, Use wifi networks ON.
Results after 10 mins
Fascinate - Satellites Used 7 or 8/10 - Accuracy 13.9 ft
Droid OG - Satellites Used 7/10 - Accuracy 39.4 ft​
GPS turned off from settings on both phones. Phones turned off for 10 minutes. Put away in closet away from window (might be too extreme, but had to make sure they were away from a clear view of the sky). Phones started again. GPS' enabled from settings menu.
Fascinate like earlier is able to get a quicker fix from the satellites.
Phones left running for 10 mins. Similar results observed as above.
So the GPS chip in the Fascinate is more accurate when it works.
To get the GPS working, I have noticed that it needs to be turned on from the settings menu. Turning it on from notification bar doesn't work
I guess thats cool. Good thing I have wifi 24/7 when I get lost?
How is this a how-to?
I see the "GPS is good when it works" part, but not the "how to get it working" part. Unless the "how to" is "turn it on in the settings".
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I see the "GPS is good when it works" part, but not the "how to get it working" part. Unless the "how to" is "turn it on in the settings".
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yes that's it
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yes that's it
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Really?
This thread is pathetic. If you want to express that you're getting good GPS results, post in General. This is not a how-to.
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Really?
This thread is pathetic. If you want to express that you're getting good GPS results, post in General. This is not a how-to.
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one would think, more people would step in development section looking for a mod for fixing GPS issues
But this isn't a mod. There is no "how to".
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But this isn't a mod. There is no "how to".
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I see other How to's in here, but a mod can move it to general, if people want it there.
Thanks man.....I figured it out from your first post....turning it on in settings works for me vs notification menu. I just learned "HOW TO" get the gps working on my SF consistantly.....seems like the right place to post this.....I guess some folks on here have nothing better to do but police the posts on the forum and fling there sarcasim...must be bored...Hey...every little bit of info helps.....
Before EB01 it wasn't necessary to go into the Settings to turn on VZW location services to get a GPS lock- you only needed to enable it in the windowshade.
I've already seen many who needed this info. Its a justified post it just lacks info in the 'How-To' part.
I get a lock just fine turning it on just from the pull-down menu. Running Super Clean 2.4.
I still get horrible accuracy. "Accurate to 2100 meters" *sigh*
For some reason I can't get a lock with wifi off.. But with wifi + gps enabled, I get an accurate lock within seconds.
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Really?
This thread is pathetic. If you want to express that you're getting good GPS results, post in General. This is not a how-to.
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Well I, for one, appreciate the tip. I was always using the notification bar to turn GPS off & on.
THanks!
When I use the drop bar to activate and then start gmaps, it takes forever, or maybe never connects. Though if I use the drop bar and then an app called GPS Essentials and look at the satellites tab, it locks in a few seconds. Its seems to be dependent on the apps that are looking for a gps position. I know on my old Omnia, gps settings were in gmaps, maybe gmaps has bad settings for our phone?
this makes sense that it would be this way, when you turn on the gps in the settings menu, you have to agree to it's terms. not so much when you turn it on via the status bar.
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Before EB01 it wasn't necessary to go into the Settings to turn on VZW location services to get a GPS lock- you only needed to enable it in the windowshade.
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agreed. this appears to be an EB01 bug. Once turned on in the settings turning it on/off will work from the notification bar for a while, until you reboot with the GPS off, then it doesn't work any more until you go to settings. I have the same problem w/ EB01, but not with DL09.
I finally get a lock, but it's lost within a few mins of using it.
Two quick notes:
1) If you are running SuperClean, the VZW location services setting does absolutely nothing. It is only used by Verizon apps (i.e. VZ Navigator) and Google Maps is not able to use the information obtained by VZW AGPS, so the entire service has been removed from the ROM.
2) The dropdown gps button is virtually worthless right now unless you leave google location services enabled all the time. There are multiple ways to turn on the GPS through the OS code, and the current implementation causes GPS lock to take nearly a minute longer (or never, if there is no AGPS data) than if you were to go into the Settings menu and turn it on. At some point, someone will probably mod the drop down to emulate the same method as the settings menu.
That being said, from inside my house, with all my AGPS data cleared, on a freshly cleaned and flashed phone, I can get a fix in less than 3 seconds, accurate to 20 meters without having location services turned on, using only standalone GPS data. With AGPS data, accuracy to 6 meters in 5-10 seconds. The trick is to turn it on from the Settings menu, not the dropdown.
i thought i was having an issue with my GPS , but maybe i am not. Here are my settings and i have question on the actual symbol in status bar.In phone settings i have google and gps checked. in pull down i have gps on.
what do these symbols mean?
when gps is checked off in notification, it shows a circle like with a cross in middle
when it is checked on,its same symbol but has the 3 lines to the right of symbol(does this mean its on, but not active?)
and then when i open maps or anything requireing gps, the symbol changing to a little satelite looking symbol that flips and activates.
so i gues i am confused by the first 2 symbols, do either mean active or just in use?
The first symbol is e911, it will always be there, the 3 lines are there showing other services are on such as google and/or verizon, the satellite flashing is the actual internal gps trying to lock on to your location. (you will see the satellite flash until it gets a lock) The gps symbol should not show unless you are using an app or some sort of navigation such as maps which activates the internal gps! hope this helps... Rock on \m/
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The first symbol is e911, it will always be there, the 3 lines are there showing other services are on such as google and/or verizon, the satellite flashing is the actual internal gps trying to lock on to your location. (you will see the satellite flash until it gets a lock) The gps symbol should not show unless you are using an app or some sort of navigation such as maps which activates the internal gps! hope this helps... Rock on \m/
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So the 3 lines means the gps is not running then? or the 3 lines basically mean my mobile data is on? which it should be unless i turn the data off ? i just didnt want the gps running constantly and was confused by the icons. please clarify further..thanks
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So the 3 lines means the gps is not running then? or the 3 lines basically mean my mobile data is on? which it should be unless i turn the data off ? i just didnt want the gps running constantly and was confused by the icons. please clarify further..thanks
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The 3 lines will show if stand alone gps, google location services, or verizon location services are enabled under settings - location & security. (Though most ppl leave the location services off unless needed I leave mine on) Gps (even though it is enabled in the menu) should not be active until you see the satellite symbol flashing or constant in the status bar at the top of your screen. Your mobile data is the symbol that says 3g/1x, if you turn off mobile data that symbol will no longer be in the status bar at the top of your screen. I hope that made sense cause I'm swyping this out on my phone
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Jrex said:
The 3 lines will show if stand alone gps, google location services, or verizon location services are enabled under settings - location & security. (Though most ppl leave the location services off unless needed I leave mine on) Gps (even though it is enabled in the menu) should not be active until you see the satellite symbol flashing or constant in the status bar at the top of your screen. Your mobile data is the symbol that says 3g/1x, if you turn off mobile data that symbol will no longer be in the status bar at the top of your screen. I hope that made sense cause I'm swyping this out on my phone
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so if my symbol is showing with the lines, am i draining battery ?
If any of the services are running you using battery. How much depends on which service is running.
so if....?
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If any of the services are running you using battery. How much depends on which service is running.
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so if i just have the gps stand alone servive checked in settings, and the icon shows with the lines, but i dont have anything that is using the gps, am i still using battery then? and even if the google gps was checked , what service would actually be using it ?
Little help?
HUH? any help?
Having issues getting smart actions to come on with location settings. I am trying with leaving gps on as well. Any tips? For example I wanted to turn wifi on at home but I can't seem to get it to recognize "home" location.
I found that you must leave wifi and gps on for location based rules to work correctly.
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I found that you must leave wifi and gps on for location based rules to work correctly.
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Thanks. I will give it a try. Seems the GPS isn't very accurate as well, however I am in a heavily wooded area and low signal.
If you intend to save some juice by disabling WiFi, don't use a location-based SmartAction to do this. It will eat as much battery as leaving WiFi on, a Motorola location services will keep your WiFi on regardless of your system settings.
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Having issues getting smart actions to come on with location settings. I am trying with leaving gps on as well. Any tips? For example I wanted to turn wifi on at home but I can't seem to get it to recognize "home" location.
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Try Llama app. It uses mobile phone towers to ascertain location so no extra battery drain. And it has many more options than smart actions.
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I have caught it happening a couple times now, seemingly at random.
I am not running Maps, or any other app that needs GPS... I hit the power button to wake the phone, swipe to unlock, and notice the GPS icon in the notifications.
Taping the notification just takes you to GPS location settings. Checking battery use shows no apps running that need GPS. No other direct indications that I have found in settings as to what is polling the GPS.
Anyone know what app/service is opening it in the background?
The weather clock updates itself when you unlock causing gps to hit for a couple seconds.
I checked that first... the "last updated" message said a couple hours prior. (I have it set to update every 3 hours) So I ruled that out. But I guess I could be wrong.
Seems to me, using GPS is a bit of overkill for weather location.
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I checked that first... the "last updated" message said a couple hours prior. (I have it set to update every 3 hours) So I ruled that out. But I guess I could be wrong.
Seems to me, using GPS is a bit of overkill for weather location.
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How else does it figure out what city you are in at any given time?
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Its TwiX said:
How else does it figure out what city you are in at any given time?
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Network location service...
It can tell where you are by knowing what cell tower you are connected to... as it knows the cell towers physical location due to a database.
This is actually how the GPS in our phones can lock on to positions in seconds rather than a couple minutes.
Cell phones have aGPS (Assisted GPS) where the cell tower info is used to get a rough position fix and speed up GPS lock.
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Network location service...
It can tell where you are by knowing what cell tower you are connected to... as it knows the cell towers physical location due to a database.
This is actually how the GPS in our phones can lock on to positions in seconds rather than a couple minutes.
Cell phones have aGPS (Assisted GPS) where the cell tower info is used to get a rough position fix and speed up GPS lock.
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VZW location services (network location services) could be used, but it isn't for weather. Which is why I asked my question...
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VZW location services (network location services) could be used, but it isn't for weather. Which is why I asked my question...
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Most apps that use location can use network location services... including weather apps... though maybe not the Samsung app. Which is why I am curious as to why it uses GPS vs network.
I never have the "Verizon location services" turned on, never have on other phones either, and other apps can use network location just fine... as "Google location services" can provide that.
Google Now checks when I'm away from home and tells me how long it takes to get back with traffic, probably using the GPS. Have you activated Google Now?
I've noticed this as well. It's not every time I unlock but I will see it come up randomly. I think it's the weather for my clock widget. I'm not too worried though since my battery life has always been fantastic.
No Google Now...
If its the weather... seems silly to use GPS over network location.
Hey Guys,
I have a Lg G2 D802 and I have tried various stock ROMs like Cloudy G3, Optimus G3 and ofcourse the stock ROM. The issue is that my G2 seems to use mobile data even when my data is turned off. Upon further investigation, i found out that it's the Location Service when set to High Accuracy triggers the data irrespective of whether you have mobile data turned on or off.
Thing I have tried till now
1. Mobile data OFF :- Data gets consumed when i have location service set to High Accuracy
2. Mobile Data OFF and Connected to Wifi :- Data gets consumed when i have location service set to High Accuracy
3. Mobile Data OFF and used a Fake APN name :- Data gets consumed when i have location service set to High Accuracy
Due to this issue, i am not able to use offline navigation app like sygic.
A similar issue is Open in the Google Issue Tracker Page which can be found here
Is there any solution yet to get rid of the above bug?
I don't see how this restricts you from using anything. It's not like it's going to ACTIVELY use data, it sounds like it does some sort of very tiny data transfer, maybe even just agps data or such, and I'll bet it does it once a day.
It's not like GPS is "using data".
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I don't see how this restricts you from using anything. It's not like it's going to ACTIVELY use data, it sounds like it does some sort of very tiny data transfer, maybe even just agps data or such, and I'll bet it does it once a day.
It's not like GPS is "using data".
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Yes it uses tiny packets of days, not like once in a day but may be every 10-15 minutes. But the main thing is that data should not get consumed once we have turned off the data.. People who are on roaming can still incur significant data charges. It indeed is a bug which is also on the Google issue tracker. Just wanted to know if anyone had any solution for it.
If it's true, then it's weird.
change location service to battery saving mode. then it wont.
createben said:
change location service to battery saving mode. then it wont.
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I know it doesn't then but then I can't use offline navigation apps like sygic
if you install an application to track your data will you find the consumption of them?
I know there's some option when doing initial setup (like after reflashing ROM or hard reset). There's a checkbox or two, checked by default. Can't recall its name now but it's something like "Allow Google to do something (?) even when data is disabled".
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I know there's some option when doing initial setup (like after reflashing ROM or hard reset). There's a checkbox or two, checked by default. Can't recall its name now but it's something like "Allow Google to do something (?) even when data is disabled".
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"Allow Google to use your location even when location is turned off" or something.
Ahh, yeah. That's correct
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Ahh, yeah. That's correct
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That's not the issue.. the thing is I want to use location at high accuracy without using data.. I have offline navigation.. but that is not looking possible.