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Hi guys
My question be possible video playback in 720p with the power of snapdragon? someone working on optimizing its software?
Coreplayer works with 720p? what formats if is the case?
Thanks guys, with this 4,3 screen, video in HD would be impresive
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May I ask why you would watch a 720p (1280x720) video on an 800x480 screen?
Just so that we wouldn't need to re-encode everything specifically for the HD2.
I mean, videos i would watch on my HD2 first are on my PC - hence, i always download the highest resolution i find. stuff i transfer to my HD2 need to be re-encoded, possibly transmuxed, which is indeed a hassle. If there was a way to read at least 720p, it would clearly be good.
chribruu said:
May I ask why you would watch a 720p (1280x720) video on an 800x480 screen?
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Same question...
What about the memory ?
remiotte said:
Just so that we wouldn't need to re-encode everything specifically for the HD2.
I mean, videos i would watch on my HD2 first are on my PC - hence, i always download the highest resolution i find. stuff i transfer to my HD2 need to be re-encoded, possibly transmuxed, which is indeed a hassle. If there was a way to read at least 720p, it would clearly be good.
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+1 ... this would be nice.
Metroid Prime said:
Hi guys
My question be possible video playback in 720p with the power of snapdragon? someone working on optimizing its software?
Coreplayer works with 720p? what formats if is the case?
Thanks guys, with this 4,3 screen, video in HD would be impresive
a greetings!
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Coreplayer fails at his, but it may be due to the H264 codec, as most 720p videos use this codec.
I am not aware of a player capable of decoding H264 to this date, which is a shame.
coreplayer decodes h264 just fine, but can't play a video larger than 1008 (if i remember right) pixels wide.
This has been discussed many times before. 720p playback is not enabled in the hardware and software decoding is not up to the task. And frankly if it did work you be draining your battery decoding details the screen couldn't display.
remiotte said:
Just so that we wouldn't need to re-encode everything specifically for the HD2.
I mean, videos i would watch on my HD2 first are on my PC - hence, i always download the highest resolution i find. stuff i transfer to my HD2 need to be re-encoded, possibly transmuxed, which is indeed a hassle. If there was a way to read at least 720p, it would clearly be good.
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Exactly, many videos and trailers have them in 720, and is very annoying having to recode, I prefer to occupy the space, and if, although it is 480x800 anyway looks awesome
I tested a video 720 in tcpmp, the audio ok, the image very slow, but tcpmp is very old soft, and no optimized
puremind said:
it may be due to the H264 codec, as most 720p videos use this codec.
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Video size has absolutely 0 to do with codecs.
CorePlayer doesn't use any hardware decoding on the HD2, in contrast to the Album/WMP, and I believe Snapdragon is locked away from 1GHz/hardware 720p decoding anyway.
Hell, I can see stutter on H264 800x480 videos no matter how I encode it.
AFAIK snapdragon is capable of running 720p video but windows mobile isn´t.
@Yunabeco: did you try this Encoder? stutters on my xperia, but on the HD2 it works like a charm.. tried only some files, i encoded from 720p with subtitle and it looks great with the built-in-player..
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Video size has absolutely 0 to do with codecs.
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Not in theoretical terms, but that's not what I wrote. I was joint pointing to the fact that most 720p videos use x264 compression due to being recorded from H264 encoded HDTV or downsampled H264 Blurays. As he said, he doesn't want to reencode.
Yunabeco said:
CorePlayer doesn't use any hardware decoding on the HD2, in contrast to the Album/WMP, and I believe Snapdragon is locked away from 1GHz/hardware 720p decoding anyway.
Hell, I can see stutter on H264 800x480 videos no matter how I encode it.
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There is a version of coreplayer that does use hardware acceleration. 1.3.1 build 7141. Don't know why the following ones don't...
benchmarks on my hd2 showed an app. 20% improvement with that version compared to the 1.3.6.
But then again, coreplayer is limited to 1008 pixels wide, so still no 720p anyway.
remiotte said:
There is a version of coreplayer that does use hardware acceleration. 1.3.1 build 7141. Don't know why the following ones don't...
benchmarks on my hd2 showed an app. 20% improvement with that version compared to the 1.3.6.
But then again, coreplayer is limited to 1008 pixels wide, so still no 720p anyway.
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Uh ? I can play 720p vids on my device. I only get performance issues (running at 23% speed at most), using latest core player.
TrYde said:
Uh ? I can play 720p vids on my device. I only get performance issues (running at 23% speed at most), using latest core player.
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There is a 1008 pixel limitation on Coreplayer.....you can't be playing 720p videos on Coreplayer at all.
kenkiller said:
There is a 1008 pixel limitation on Coreplayer.....you can't be playing 720p videos on Coreplayer at all.
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or a 1008x720 720p... welcome back, 4x3 vids...
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AFAIK snapdragon is capable of running 720p video but windows mobile isn´t.
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Doesn't have anything to do with Windows Mobile. The question is whether the device has the necessary drivers or not.
To answer the thread: No, it is not possible.
And even if it was possible, you would still have to reencode all the videos.
That's because even if a phone is capable of playing 720p, then it only plays certain file formats that it can harware accelerate.
This should answer everything. 720p gives no benefit at all because reencoding is always necessary.
720P play in ACER S200/F1
I can play 1280x720p wmv9 encoded movie in ACER s200/F1 with windows media player. but coreplayer can not. wmv7 and wmv8 encoded movies can not play with windows media player or coreplayer.
Hello all,
I have copied an .mpg file (which has been created from miniDV camcorder 1440 X 1080 50i 25mbps) into microSD card.
i tried to play it with many video player with no luck.
I found one player (Rockplayer lite) which work BUT with problem.
At the horizontal pannings there is a deinterlacing issue, (horizontal lines) which is no normal. Except of this problem, the video plays smoothly.There is a setting called Software Decoding/ Hardware decoding.
If I select hardware decoding I take an waring message: The file cannot be played with system player , so the video does not even start!
Do you know if there is a video player which support Hardware decoding?
Thanks in advance
Horizontal lines in interlaced video are normal. Player has to have special deinterlacing algorithms to suppress that.
I have also tried moboplayer with no luck
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Do you know if there is a video player which support Hardware decoding?
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There is no decoding-hardware for MPEG1/2 in Exynos (nor in any other recent SoC for mobile-phones), so hardware-decoding is not possible.
You need a software-decoder that does deinterlacing as well, but I´m not sure if the CPU is powerful enough to do this in HD-resolutions, but it could be possible, as MPEG2 isn´t that demanding.
But it definitely will need a lot of energy, so to save power it is probably best to convert the video in format with hardware-support, and do the deinterlacing on your computer as well. If you just plan to watch it on your phone, you could simply throw away one field. Each field still has a high of 540 pixels, which is way over the 480 pixels of the display, so you won´t see any quality-advantage having both fields available to display on your phone, it would just burn more battery.
thanks for the reply. I have hundreds of family videos in .mpg (converted from miniDV) which play smoothly with PC or any Media Player.
So, I don't think it worth converting all these videos for watching them to phone.
P.S. I think it's time to get a new camcorder using card for instant drag 'n drop playback.
LightspeedGalaxy said:
There is no decoding-hardware for MPEG1/2 in Exynos (nor in any other recent SoC for mobile-phones), so hardware-decoding is not possible.
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Are you sure of that? You may try this: open a player (i.e. moboplayer) take a screenshot (home+power) of a video file i.e. mkv. You 'll see that the entire picture will be black (blank) because of hardware acceleration. If you select from the settings of moboplayer, software decoding and take again a screenshot , you 'll notice that the picture is OK (furthermore you'll also notice that there is a stuttering in video playback).
I believe that this is a proof that the phone can handle a hardware decoding.
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So, I don't think it worth converting all these videos for watching them to phone.
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Sure, you won´t have all your videos on the phone anyway, so you can do a conversation if you need it.
P.S. I think it's time to get a new camcorder using card for instant drag 'n drop playback.
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Well, I have to disappoint you again. New camcorders which use cards to store the videos usually use AVCHD. The media-framework currently doesn´t support the TS-container which is used (in different variants) for example on BD, for DVB-broadcasting and AVCHD as well.
There is currently no way on Android to use hardware-acceleration if the container is not supported.
So you will have to use software-decoding as well, which certainly can not be fast enough when using MPEG4-AVC in HD-resolutions.
So, there will be no instant drag-and-drop either, but at least we can hope for some firmware-update to include support for AVCHD, and of course you can always remux AVCHD-files in one of the supported containers, like mp4 or mkv, because the codecs are already supported.
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I believe that this is a proof that the phone can handle a hardware decoding.
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Of course there is a DSP in the SoC to accelerate decoding of several media-formats.
But the video-processor decodes several types of MPEG4, it certainly can´t decode MPEG1/2.
Assuming that you want enjoy MPG files on Galaxy S II, S III, S IV, you'll need to get some help from 3rd-party video player app like mxplayer or 3rd-party video converter software like Brorsoft's Video Converter to convert MPG files to H.264 or MPEG-4 encoded MP4 videos for Samsung Galaxy.
Nice find on digging out this thread. And four years later, that was a quick response. :facepalm:
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Trial at https://market.android.com/details?id=com.inisoft.mediaplayer.trial&feature=search_result
Try it out!
Edit: Diceplayer and ES filemanager is a nice combo, plays mkv via wifi very nicely
Limitations
1. S5PC11x Chipset can play 720p(h.264 high profile)
2. Tegra 2 based phone can not play H.264 high profile clip.
3. Froyo Galaxy S/Tab can not play movie. Gingerbread is required.
4. 2nd gen. Snapdragon can not play H.264 High profile level 4.0/5.0 clip.
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Are we sure it will work? Testing now.
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Are we sure it will work? Testing now.
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Impressed! Works perfectly
Thanks for the link, buying it!
Does it play x264 high profile encoded 720p and 1080p mkv files?
Works perfect so far! Even plays across smb!
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Can someone check the playback of the following video clips, using Diceplayer? These clips are taken from this thread here. This is what the OP of that thread says:
This is a survey to see how well current tablets can play 720p and 1080p H.264 movies. Attached below are 6 sample clips from Avatar, each is of the same scene, encoded in H.264 high/main/baseline profile and 720p/1080p resolution. Please try all clips.
I've selected Avatar since it is full-frame and requires more bits than a normal wide-screen movie. This particular sequence is very high action, and serves as a worst-case test. (For playback, please minimize system load by closing down other running apps.)
http://mediafire.com/?15ec78k8s57db1z 1280 high MP4
http://mediafire.com/?pylvj2fa9kzynh2 1280 main MP4
http://mediafire.com/?9uk4z06ig651x3u 1280 baseline MP4
http://mediafire.com/?ge1nwgd5003s3ak 1920 high MP4
http://mediafire.com/?8aarftw6r499dga 1920 main MP4
http://mediafire.com/?7yqwhma8yhrhusq 1920 baseline MP4
The above video 1280 high profile play just fine with stock player. Android 3.1 handle highprofile mp4 with the right spec.
The 1920 highprofile freeze my tab and only gets audio. And when do people want to play 1080p? Better to use 720p with good quality and bitrate.
The thing that's stand out with diceplayer is that you can play .mkv.
It Evan plays videos with dts.
If you want use to test and see different between diceplayer and stock you should upload videos that don't run on stock player
Have tried some highprofile mkv and its almost ok, for the most time it runs smoothly, but sometimes the picture hangs,studder.
It's almost there but it don't reach all the way, hopes that we will see updates so the playback gets better.
Also think that mp4 baseline and other video plays smoother in movie's when there is alot of movement and panning.
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Doesn't play on my 3.1 Tab
Diceplayer doesn't work on my Tab - running HC3.1. Anyone else have problems?
arnold88 said:
Diceplayer doesn't work on my Tab - running HC3.1. Anyone else have problems?
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Same for me
arnold88 said:
Diceplayer doesn't work on my Tab - running HC3.1. Anyone else have problems?
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Same here, it opens, sits for a second, then closes.
Works pretty well with these ([email protected] AC3) TV shows that I download. Not bad since Mobo couldn't play these smoothly. Video has some hiccups but audio is smooth.
Downloaded a sample video ([email protected] DTS) and there was no video. Then the file stopped playing half way through (27 seconds in).
But I don't watch movies on my tablet anyway, only TV shows. And this seems to work great. Let's see if it'll be able to stream the TV shows smoothly. Thanks OP!
This plays my 720p x264 mkvs perfectly. Fantastic find, Doc, thanks.
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Ahh finally, since neither stock nor mobo could play my .mkv's (tv series) this is godsend.
I'm running HC 3.1 & TW.
Got Diceplayer playing back a 720p .MKV file (not sure if it was high profile or not) - not buttery smooth but better than anything else I've seen so far on HC3.1
Got a couple of questions, I was wondering if anyone can answer...
1) Diceplayer claims to offer hardware accelerated video decoding - is this for .MKVs?
2) Is that hardware acceleratation for Tegra 2
3) IF so, how are they managing it where so many others have failed? (Wasn't the core problem with offering HW acceleration for .MKVs down to lack of support from the nVidia side of things?)
Cheers
1) Diceplayer claims to offer hardware accelerated video decoding - is this for .MKVs?
=> Yes. it use hw accelerator at any format with MPEG-4/H.264
you can play MOV / AVI files with HW accel.
2) Is that hardware acceleratation for Tegra 2
=> YES.
It plays 720p high profile mkv without any issues. With 1080p, The video stops playing, but the audio still works for some, but wont for most of the 1080p videos either mkv or mp4. I think this might be achieved in the future.
720p playback is great !
1080p just freeze the tab but hey not even my Galaxy S II cant handle Full HD besides the resolution is useless for now anyway
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It plays 720p high profile mkv without any issues. With 1080p, The video stops playing, but the audio still works for some, but wont for most of the 1080p videos either mkv or mp4. I think this might be achieved in the future.
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I don't think it (Galaxy Tab/Tegra2) can handle level 4.1 or higher. But plays the rest better than anything else I've tried.
juami said:
1) Diceplayer claims to offer hardware accelerated video decoding - is this for .MKVs?
=> Yes. it use hw accelerator at any format with MPEG-4/H.264
you can play MOV / AVI files with HW accel.
2) Is that hardware acceleratation for Tegra 2
=> YES.
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Awesome.. which leads me to question 3.. *How* are they managing to implement HW acceleration where the other software vendors have failed? e.g. the reliance on core NVidia software library support (or lack of it apparently) ??
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Awesome.. which leads me to question 3.. *How* are they managing to implement HW acceleration where the other software vendors have failed? e.g. the reliance on core NVidia software library support (or lack of it apparently) ??
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see my interview.
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2011/07/20/focus-on-apps-dice-player/
I have gotten HD playback on my G tablet Honeycomb using Flashback 7.1 overclocked to 1.4 ghz
I got it working by downloading MX video player and its codecs to play videos
I downloaded a bunch of 720p movie trailers, the ones I tried for the youtube video (I'll upload tomorrow, phone is dead) were Avatar (2009) and The Darkest Hour (2011).
Now I know stock g tablet 2.2 can play 1080p hd videos, but the fact is, even if you can play the 1080p movie on the g tablet, that doesn't mean it will have 1080x1920 pixels on the g tablet, it will downscale the 1080p video into the maximum resolution on the g tablet that is 1024x600. That means that it also scales 720p videos. So in reality, its not even worth trying to play 1080p videos on the g tablet.
But as far as playing the video, its acceptable, there is a little choppiness that you can see here and there.
My testing from last Sunday, as well as Edirector's tests in teh Illuminate thread did show that it was possible to play HD video downloaded from Youtube usign software decoding. I tested with Flashback and could play everything he was playing, including the Bluray ruality rips he kept talking about.
What I was able to show was that hardware decoding was still not possible on HC roms, meaning that hardware acceleration was not working, and can not work unless drivers are obtained.
I went back to Calk/Clem Froyo rom and am able to play videos using hardware decoding. the quality is a "bit' better, but nothing to write home about. The difference come when viewing on the TV via the dock. Hardware decoding does improve the picture.
Any rom, with the right video applications can view videos using software decoding. Oveclocking isn't even necessarily needed to do so.
This was why at the conclusion of my testing, I questioned the need for hardware acceleration at all. If the HC and GB roms can watch HD video using software decoding, and the difference with the hardware decoding on Froyo roms is minimal, then why is hardware acceleration the deciding factor when going to an HC rom? For me, personally, it's because I use the dock. Hell, my famly just watched 3 movies today on the TV through the dock...
I just need to find a video player that supports AC3 audio in hardwae decoding mode.
Battery Life
Two main reasons to choose Froyo over GB or HC for the hardware acceleration are that with the HDMI cable and dock if the video isn't hardware accelerated, it looks crappy on the TV. Also, and more importantly, is BATTERY LIFE! Hardware accelerated decoding uses MUCH less battery. So if you were on an intercontinental flight like I was last month, you can hardware decode 4 movies and still have about 35% battery, where as you might be able to squeeze out 2.5 movies using software decoding. To each there own...but I bought the Gtab to watch videos mostly, so I want to use the hardware optimized for it.
TJEvans said:
I just need to find a video player that supports AC3 audio in hardwae decoding mode.
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Heck yes! That's the one thing that burns me up...how the Tegra 2 doesn't decode AC3. We need a video player that will hardware decode the video stream, but software decode the audio. Shouldn't be to hard to do right?
I know the SGP doesn't have a dual-core processor or any native support whatsoever for 1080p file playback, but would proper tweaking allow the device to playback such files?
Such as overclocking to 1.5GHz (perhaps I don't understand the requirements for that kind of playback, so correct me if I'm way off)
What do you all think?
Um, it has a 480p screen?
H.264 playback is, in theory, handled by dedicated video decoding hardware (samsung's FIMC), which might be capable of 1080p baseline profile. But I've heard there might be issues with hw accel video on this device?
Been too busy trying to port CWM to mess with that.