No LED vs BLN - Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

what do you guys use, whats more "battery friendly?"

I've used NoLED since last august, never had any battery issues. Love the idea that I can look at my phone and see gmail, gtalk, or gosms app icon on the screen if I have new messages.
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I prefer bln because noled does eat more battery life because its still turning the screen on, hence: why you have to hit the home key instead of the power key to read your message. Bln is led light only. Downside is you don't know what type of message it is with bln.
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Virtuososteve said:
what do you guys use, whats more "battery friendly?"
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Try them both and see which one you like. Neither uses much battery at all. I like no led so I can tell what messages it is.

No LED could cause screen burn in though.

Sdobron said:
No LED could cause screen burn in though.
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I use BLN. Once you have BLN you can just go into each app that supports led notification and modify the settings there and instead of using the default bln setting you set in the bln app your phone will use those settings instead. So you can change the BLN frequency to help you distinguish between the different types of messages.

Sdobron said:
No LED could cause screen burn in though.
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How? It doesn't stay in one place. I have never heard of any screen burn in by noled from anyone.

It could really only cause burn in if you don't have it set to move the icons every few seconds.
I prefer BLN just because its brighter, and the unlocking procedure doesn't change.
If he figures out individual light blinks, it will be even better.
I've used both, and haven't seen any excessive battery drain on either. However, both come with apps that let you configure the settings, so YMMV.

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How to turn off bln?

I use gv to text at work on the website and so my phone its just sitting there with the bln lights on consuming battery. How do you stop it?
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exzacklyright said:
I use gv to text at work on the website and so my phone its just sitting there with the bln lights on consuming battery. How do you stop it?
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Two things:
1) If you are using CM7, it is not possible to turn off BLN as of now, sorry.
2) The BLN lights consume very, very VERY little battery. As in, lets say you got a message as soon as you unplugged your phone and they stayed lit for the whole day - they would use less than 1% of the battery. So don't worry about BLN, it's not as bad as you may think.
skafan2 said:
1) If you are using CM7, it is not possible to turn off BLN as of now, sorry.
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That statement isn't totally accurate. I am on CM7 and didn't want BLN functioning. To keep them from coming on, you can change your profile settings.
Go into Settings -> Profiles and select the profile you want to change (if you don't use them, just select Default). At the bottom of this next menu, you'll see a section called Application Groups. For every item in this list, you can select it, and then turn Lights Mode to Off. This will stop BLN from lighting up the buttons.
You can call this disabling BLN, or a workaround, or whatever, but it's worked for me.
Zerg The Bear said:
That statement isn't totally accurate. I am on CM7 and didn't want BLN functioning. To keep them from coming on, you can change your profile settings.
Go into Settings -> Profiles and select the profile you want to change (if you don't use them, just select Default). At the bottom of this next menu, you'll see a section called Application Groups. For every item in this list, you can select it, and then turn Lights Mode to Off. This will stop BLN from lighting up the buttons.
You can call this disabling BLN, or a workaround, or whatever, but it's worked for me.
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Nice, this must be a recent change... I remember there was a whole controversy over it about a week or two ago, and the profiles didn't work at the time. Thanks!
Oh yeah, I should have mentioned I'm running the 7/17 CM7. I didn't use any of the previous versions, so I can't comment as to their functionality.
I hated bln at first, but its really grown on me and now I wouldn't consider a rom without it. And agree with the first reply, basically no battery consumption.
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Honestly, I think the problem is with another app running in the background while your screen is off, thus preventing your phone from sleeping. I would recommend the "active apps" app from the market and seeing what you have active at the time.
Another note: if your bln remains on while your screen is off, try opening the notification drawer and clearing your notifications. That works for me (of course, I actually click on the relevant notice usually which also deactivates the bln until the next notice comes in)
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[Q] Notification led for sgs2

As we all know, the sgs2 doesn't have notification leds. However, we do have leds under the menu and back buttons. I was wondering if anyone knows of any app that takes advantage of this. I want to use the menu and back button led as a notification led. Periodically flashing would be extremely helpful. I know there is NoLed on the market but that isn't the most elegant solution. Perhaps even using camera flash on minimum minimum brightness could be doable.
You need BLN for that. (Back Light Notification)
1- You have to flash BLN compatible kernel for that. For example- Ninphetamine.
2- You need to have liblights.zip installed. You can find it from Jame Bond thread.
3- You need to install BLN Control Pro for that, free version wont work for Missed calls and stock SMS/MMS app.
4- If you want notification for stock SMS/MMS app then you have to install 'Light Flow Lite' from market.
I was recently using it with that kernel, but I don't like that kernel at all.
Besides flashing too many things for just a simple light notification is very kiddish. Got rid of BLN and back to CF. No intention of getting it unless it start supports all kernels.
Regards.
Im running the villainROM 2.4.2 with ninphetamine kernal and XXKG6 installed.downloading the BLN app from the market you get that.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1198334
Has anyone noticed the red light that appears at the top of the phone next to the front camera and sensor? I've only really noticed it once the phone has been fully charged.
Perhaps this could be used to indicate a notification, assuming there isn't an app that already uses this light?
Lol, thats the Proximity sensor taking effect dude.
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Well whatever it is, could it not be used as a notification indicator if it hasn't already been?
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No sir, it can only be used in a call when you put your phone near your face/ear it helps to turn off the screen.
Regards.
Wait, so that really is an led light?! I've never seen it go off, it would be sweet to have a red notification led, just like my old Blackberry... BLN works okay for now, though is is NOWHERE as bright as the led on the blackberries.
I started using NoLED, coming from a Desire I was a bit disappointed. I like NoLED but I'm concerned about the impact it has on battery even though I have mine set to 1% brightness and I rather have the standard icons on screen rather than the custom icons to be honest.
ithehappy said:
You need BLN for that. (Back Light Notification)
1- You have to flash BLN compatible kernel for that. For example- Ninphetamine.
2- You need to have liblights.zip installed. You can find it from Jame Bond thread.
3- You need to install BLN Control Pro for that, free version wont work for Missed calls and stock SMS/MMS app.
4- If you want notification for stock SMS/MMS app then you have to install 'Light Flow Lite' from market.
I was recently using it with that kernel, but I don't like that kernel at all.
Besides flashing too many things for just a simple light notification is very kiddish. Got rid of BLN and back to CF. No intention of getting it unless it start supports all kernels.
Regards.
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Wooaaa.....
why such hassle?
i thought android suppose to be the smarted OS. :-(
back when i was using symbian, light signal plus, a simple app can make softhey LED lit up.
i was hoping theres a widget or app in android that can do the same thing.
rooting or flashing for such small function seems overkill. :-(
Ray1 said:
Wooaaa.....
why such hassle?
i thought android suppose to be the smarted OS. :-(
back when i was using symbian, light signal plus, a simple app can make softhey LED lit up.
i was hoping theres a widget or app in android that can do the same thing.
rooting or flashing for such small function seems overkill. :-(
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Android is the smartest OS but it isn't the simplest one. And as an user, not a dev, I don't like that too.
I also remember about Light Signal Plus when I had 5800XM.
Regards.

Notification SOLUTION come inside and read

Hi everyone, I was suffering from the no led notification in my lovely SG2, till I found this great application that solved my issues for:
1- Charging notification
2-Missing calls and messages notification
3- Clock on the screen while the screen is off
The application is called NoLED it is free from the market. Play around and you will find many options.
NoLED is a bad notification option IMO. Using Screen for notification is a bad idea. Why don't you try BLN instead?
While NoLED is good, it eats a lot of battery.
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There is Vibration Notifier too, that can vibrate and/or beep when you have missing calls, unread sms, etc.
I was about to test NoLed, but as many people says it uses too much battery, I decided to use Vibration Notifier. It is working fine, let's see how it goes with battery.
PS: It doesnt need modified kernel.
ithehappy said:
NoLED is a bad notification option IMO. Using Screen for notification is a bad idea. Why don't you try BLN instead?
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What is BLN? Can you please provide a link
t4ure4n said:
What is BLN? Can you please provide a link
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BLN = back light notification.
it utilizes the backlight of the touch buttons to notify you!
for that, you need a BLN capable rom and kernel, just look into the rom section
and search for BLN!
NOLED is indeed a bad idea, because even if you use just a few pixels, the whole screen has to be "on", which is visible in total darkness as a barely visible grey color over the whole screen --> bad for your battery...
BLN needs rooting
ithehappy said:
NoLED is a bad notification option IMO. Using Screen for notification is a bad idea. Why don't you try BLN instead?
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BLN needs rooting for the phone which I'm not into it now. Regarding battery consumption, if you have an access for charging in the house and office i.e for about 18 hours per day then what is the problem for charging?

Notification lights? Does the Note have them?

I've been looking for the notification lights on my device.... I can't seem to find anything that has triggered them... I don't even know even it has any..?
I had the S2 and it would have notification lights...
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Da_G's kernel and DAGr8's ROM supports BLN (back light notification) which uses your capacitive lights as a notification light.
What zer0ninesaid above plus there is NoLED, which I prefer over BLN. It uses icons to idicate what is notifying you so you don't need to invoke a pavlovian response to a blinking button, lol. Plus it has some additional tools like Proximity Sensor so the screen won't turn on when in your pocket.
Somewhat related, I just stumbled onto this notification app, iphone notifications, from the market and it was just the ticket. One of the problems with Google talk, Gmail is that there is no pop-up to notify you which is what this app does. Now my wife, an iphone-convert, can't complain about not getting the text pop-ups she's used to.
BTW, this could be a stretch but I couldn't get BLN to work together with Iphone Notifications.
What if you stay stock? Is there anything out there?
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As kimocal said, NoLED is awesome. I have used it for over a year on my Vibrant (same screen technology). It pops a moving icon up on your screen when it is turned off, you hit the power button again to turn it back off completely, otherwise the appropriate (email, gmail, txt, and other) icons move around on the screen. You can set individual app icons and their color. Worth checking out. Used very little juice since black is displayed as off on our screen, only the small portion with the colored icon is actually on.
Just tried the NoLED, but think I'll stick with Missed Message Flasher.
kimocal said:
What zer0ninesaid above plus there is NoLED, which I prefer over BLN. It uses icons to idicate what is notifying you so you don't need to invoke a pavlovian response to a blinking button, lol. Plus it has some additional tools like Proximity Sensor so the screen won't turn on when in your pocket.
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Maybe I'm paranoid, but I just can't see how NoLED doesn't decimate battery life. The device is on, running, screen is on (I'm sure OLED doesn't use zero power when on, regardless of pixels shown), etc. I assume it's only on when there's an un-acknowledged notification, but even at that...
Even just running the proximity sensor all the time is a drain. I dunno, I'd assume it wouldn't be popular if it killed your battery, perhaps I should give it another try..

LED Notification Light Mod Request

Quick question here -
On the OG Evo my favorite mod was the WiMax notification mod that enabled the green WiMax light to stay lit when I received a text message.
I know the Evo 4G LTE doesn't have this light. Is it possible to have the blinking notification changed to a constant on? That way it's harder to miss when I get a new text message.
How hard would it be for a developer to make this happen?
Thanks in advance!
And to go along with this could we get a mod so that the notification light doesn't time out after 5 minutes if it hasn't been checked? Kind of a useless light unless you look at your phone every 5 minutes. It is one of the main reasons I switched to Cyanogenmod on my EVO Shift.
The constant on mod would be nice. I wouldn't have to stare as long wondering if it is in fact blinking.
I use Handcent and while it's a little bloated it does allow you to set the charging light to flash when a text is received and also the frequency and color of the flash. It might be an option for you until someone creates a mod.
Evo_Shift said:
And to go along with this could we get a mod so that the notification light doesn't time out after 5 minutes if it hasn't been checked? Kind of a useless light unless you look at your phone every 5 minutes. It is one of the main reasons I switched to Cyanogenmod on my EVO Shift.
The constant on mod would be nice. I wouldn't have to stare as long wondering if it is in fact blinking.
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Wait, the notification light times out after 5 minutes? Seriously? I thought maybe I was just seeing (or not seeing) things. That's irritating.
Aeonus said:
Quick question here -
On the OG Evo my favorite mod was the WiMax notification mod that enabled the green WiMax light to stay lit when I received a text message.
I know the Evo 4G LTE doesn't have this light. Is it possible to have the blinking notification changed to a constant on? That way it's harder to miss when I get a new text message.
How hard would it be for a developer to make this happen?
Thanks in advance!
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I also had that app in my Evo. It was from a developer in xda but when I tried to install it, it said was not supported. Wish the developer would redo for us.
Ian B
Mike Fitz said:
I use Handcent and while it's a little bloated it does allow you to set the charging light to flash when a text is received and also the frequency and color of the flash. It might be an option for you until someone creates a mod.
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I use hand cent also. Can you please point us to where you would adjust the color of the flash? All I see is a setting for blink led. But no color setting.
Mike Fitz said:
I use Handcent and while it's a little bloated it does allow you to set the charging light to flash when a text is received and also the frequency and color of the flash. It might be an option for you until someone creates a mod.
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I actually really like the stock one that is included in this build. I've had sketchy results with third-party apps in the past and don't really need the extra bloat typically.
Appreciate the suggestion though, that's more along the lines of what I'm interested in. A constant-on notification light would be perfect.
djscissorhands said:
I use hand cent also. Can you please point us to where you would adjust the color of the flash? All I see is a setting for blink led. But no color setting.
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Menu/Settings/Notification Settings/Notification Settings (again)/Check the "LED Plus" box. You should then see a dropdown for LED color (Green or Amber) and another for LED Frequency. Not sure if you have to be rooted to select LED Plus.
I used the wimax notifier on the 4g, but it would be great if a ROM developer could include some tweaks for this!
I use this and it is godly light flow
It takes a while to figure everything out but once you do it's amazing
Mike Fitz said:
Menu/Settings/Notification Settings/Notification Settings (again)/Check the "LED Plus" box. You should then see a dropdown for LED color (Green or Amber) and another for LED Frequency. Not sure if you have to be rooted to select LED Plus.
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I don't have "LED Plus" what version of handcent are you using?
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djscissorhands said:
I don't have "LED Plus" what version of handcent are you using?
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I think you have to be rooted to use that feature/option!
I am rooted with zedomax
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djscissorhands said:
I don't have "LED Plus" what version of handcent are you using?
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I'm on 4.2.5 and it's been there through multiple updates. It's possible it wasn't included for the LTE I guess, I'm still using the OG EVO (for now). Maybe someone else can verify. It would be hard to believe they would remove it for certain phones but who knows.
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I use this and it is godly light flow
It takes a while to figure everything out but once you do it's amazing
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I tried this on my LTE, and it only worked in Direct mode, which gave me very few options. How did you get it to work?
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I use this and it is godly light flow
It takes a while to figure everything out but once you do it's amazing
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I also tried this and although it works if my phone is silent the light turns off after a couple seconds if my sound is turned on. Also, the light doesn't flash it remains constant which I don't mind at all. However, I need to hear my phone sometimes so until that gets cleared up this isn't an option for me.
Ok for handcent there are a couple things but it does work even on our EVO LTE.
First I don't think the option is called LED Plus any more. To get to those options open up one of your text messages like you are reading it and at the top right side there is a little gear settings button. Click that and select Notification Settings. When you scroll down you will see three settings under the heading "LED Settings"; Blink LED, Color of LED and LED flash frequency. Those settings would have solved our problem. The problem is they are grayed out on our new phones. Bummer. I guess it means handcent isn't fully compatible with Sense 4 yet.
We can get around that though!
Now back out of your messages so that you are at the main screen of handcent where you can see all the contacts who have messaged you. Now press menu> settings>notification settings>notification settings. In here you will see a set of options called reminders. Turn on reminders and make sure the frequency is set for 5 minutes. 5 minutes is when Sense will usually time out a notification. Also, make sure to set the number of reminders to keep repeating so that every 5 minutes you get a new reminder. These reminders seem to restart the notification to your phone. You will get another notification sound/vibration or however you have yours set up and the led light will continue to flash like you just received the message. I don't think there is a way to not have the sound/vibration go off again unless your phone is on silent. Doesn't bother me since if I haven't checked the notification by then that means I still need to be notified.
Another cool thing about handcent is if you like the way the stock messaging app pops up your text on the lock screen handcent can do that too. It's in the options to popup on lockscreen and you also have to check the option for popup on lockscreen fix for some phone on Android 2.2+. You can even check an option somewhere in there so that the popup only shows up on the lockscreen and not when you are using the phone.
With these options I can make handcent function identical to the stock messaging app but have my notification led remain on forever until I clear it. I also turned off notifications for my stock messaging app and under display settings in my phone turned off led notification for sms/mms so handcent is controlling them.
Unfortunately this does nothing for emails, phone calls, etc but really texts are the one thing I need to know about since it is the primary way my wife communicates with me during the day.
I have also tried Light Flow but it doesn't seem to work at all. My notifications still turn off after 5 minutes even in direct mode.

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