Hello All,
First time poster, and new Android user (and loving it!). I like most people am waiting (hoping and praying) that the DEV community for the Moto Atrix picks up and cool things start happening! Anyway onto my question.
Does anyone know if the PRO Version has free updates, or if you need to pay for the updates that happen to PRO?
Thanks all for the time and knowledge.
why dont you ask the developer that question?
meztizo_kid said:
Hello All,
First time poster, and new Android user (and loving it!). I like most people am waiting (hoping and praying) that the DEV community for the Moto Atrix picks up and cool things start happening! Anyway onto my question.
Does anyone know if the PRO Version has free updates, or if you need to pay for the updates that happen to PRO?
Thanks all for the time and knowledge.
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It has free updates, meaning you only need to pay once.
I don't mean to question the integrity of the dev but I feel it necessary to ask, is it safe to pay for PRO if you live in the US? I don't want to pay to an overseas dev for him to keep charging my card over and over.
Juls317 said:
I don't mean to question the integrity of the dev but I feel it necessary to ask, is it safe to pay for PRO if you live in the US? I don't want to pay to an overseas dev for him to keep charging my card over and over.
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i purchased Titanium Backup pro a year ago.....only paid once.....the dev is respectable
Juls317 said:
I don't mean to question the integrity of the dev but I feel it necessary to ask, is it safe to pay for PRO if you live in the US? I don't want to pay to an overseas dev for him to keep charging my card over and over.
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..the market doesn't work like that. Great paid app. It should be *the* first app you purchase as soon as you root.
Never pay for updates, and the updates are frequent. TiBu Pro is a must have app.
Support the dev who gave you what is probably the most useful app on the Market.
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I knew that I wouldn't have to pay for updates but it's not like identity theft is unheard of and I just wanted to make sure. You said it yourself, it should be the first app that any root user downloads and there are a lot of root users out there
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Just look at the app description in the market!
Code:
Adds PRO Features:
• Multiple backups per app
• 0-click batch restore
• Batch verification
• Hypershell speed
• Migrate system data across different ROMs
• Market Doctor
• Apps freezer (incl. batch support)
• Market "auto updating" manager
• Convert user app <=> system app
• Encryption
• Unlimited schedules
• Sync to/from Dropbox
• Send backup by e-mail
• Brand the app with your name
• Bloatware Melter (experimental)
• And more!
Juls317 said:
I knew that I wouldn't have to pay for updates but it's not like identity theft is unheard of and I just wanted to make sure. You said it yourself, it should be the first app that any root user downloads and there are a lot of root users out there
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wtf?! identity theft? @Juls317, is this what you always think when you pay for an app?
read up on how the market works actually works
the dev never even sees your credit card information!
feisty_noodle said:
Just look at the app description in the market!
Code:
Adds PRO Features:
• Multiple backups per app
• 0-click batch restore
• Batch verification
• Hypershell speed
• Migrate system data across different ROMs
• Market Doctor
• Apps freezer (incl. batch support)
• Market "auto updating" manager
• Convert user app <=> system app
• Encryption
• Unlimited schedules
• Sync to/from Dropbox
• Send backup by e-mail
• Brand the app with your name
• Bloatware Melter (experimental)
• And more!
wtf?! identity theft? @Juls317, is this what you always think when you pay for an app?
read up on how the market works actually works, guys
the dev never even sees your credit card information!
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I got corrected already. I don't buy apps usually so I wasn't sure exactly how the market worked. There's no need for the flame
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You are right; there is no need to flame.
However, "identity theft" should not be used lightly here. Them's fightin' words.
I love my pro key. 2nd on supporting the best apps and devs.
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You are right; there is no need to flame.
However, "identity theft" should not be used lightly here. Them's fightin' words.
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I wasn't trying to start anything. I was just saying that while im sure the dev of TiBackup isn't a credit card lurked, you never know. merely an awareness.message if you will
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Juls317 said:
I don't mean to question the integrity of the dev but I feel it necessary to ask, is it safe to pay for PRO if you live in the US? I don't want to pay to an overseas dev for him to keep charging my card over and over.
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For "Anybody" out there concerned about using your CC (or having PS3 security withdrawals) allow me to offer some "alternative suggestions" if you are still not comfortable to using your regular CC:
1.) "Rebate Debit Cards" - My personal favorite, and they work. These are easy to acquire. Many software companies are are starting to give these out instead of checks.
Some grocery stores and gas stations still have issues accepting these, but the Android Market takes them with no problem. I keep a spreadsheet open of how much balance is left and which programs I've already purchased.
2.) "Virtual Credit Cards" - Just an extra layer of protection for those wanting that added peace of mind.
3.) Titanium Backup Pro - Is actually an app that you can purchase from the Developers Website and use PayPal for the transaction.
Finally as already stated in this thread, the Android Market keeps your info hidden from the developer. With that said, I have friends that don't trust using their CC for anything anymore since they are still ticked about the PS3 fiasco (I know Apples vs Encrypted Oranges) but there's no changing their minds.
Hopefully some of the suggestions listed above can help more people feel comfortable supporting the developers that actually need your support...
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wtf?! identity theft? @Juls317, is this what you always think when you pay for an app?
read up on how the market works actually works
the dev never even sees your credit card information!
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The OP posted a very valid question here. Some people are, quite rightly, concerned about this.
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Im still pretty new to the smartphone world. But after looking at various apps I noticed the app declares a list of permissions it will need to certain files on the phone. Im just concerned that any one of these apps are gathering sensitive information like our contacts or notes on our phones. How do we know exactly what is being accessed and sent out. I just realized an app like mixzing sends the developers information about the songs we listen to, our playlists, etc.. Now Im not too concerned about this in particular, but how do we know what other information they or any other developer are grabbing from our phones? On a PC you atleast have a firewall, router, security sofware, etc..
Its interesting that someone finally asked this question. I asked this very thing since i.had my G1.
I am in infomation security and as a security researcher, ive used a rooted device and the shark app which is like wireshark for packet captures from your phone. You could always stick your vibrant on your wireless network and watch the packets there as well.
Take a peek at this screengrab from an alt keyboard install from the sticky page. I would not trust any app at all
On a side note, if you saw the forensics app for these phones...wow
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there have been apps said to collect sensitive data that it doesnt need to function... In russia there was also a tip calculator that sent sms messages to various numbers without your knowledge... at the moment there is no virus, or worm, or trojan for android atleast not on this side of the world...
Just be careful what you download, always read the apps permissions..
Or download a app that scans applications, I personally use Lookout. Not because im paranoid about viruses but there are other features implemented such as losnig your phone and includes tracking.
It's on the market, "Lookout."
Lookout is a great tool to have. I use it on all my phones, out scan every app as you install, if its bad, it'll tell you
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Lookout is a great tool to have. I use it on all my phones, out scan every app as you install, if its bad, it'll tell you
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SO how man y, if any, bad apps have you encountered? I havnt bought into the whole AV for mobile phones yet. I understand the potential risk, but the real world risk seems minimal to nearly nonexistant at this moment. Now I will probably be one of the first ones to go palm to face when the first virus makes its way around and I get it, but for now i'll stick with the ignorance is bliss unless this lookout app is actually kicking back potential risks.
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SO how man y, if any, bad apps have you encountered? I havnt bought into the whole AV for mobile phones yet. I understand the potential risk, but the real world risk seems minimal to nearly nonexistant at this moment. Now I will probably be one of the first ones to go palm to face when the first virus makes its way around and I get it, but for now i'll stick with the ignorance is bliss unless this lookout app is actually kicking back potential risks.
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It's 0.. I use it mainly incase I lose my phone. That's the thing about Lookout, it isn't intrusive at all. It runs weekly scans (disabled if you want), and scans when you install a new application.
It has a lot of other functionality other than scanning for malicious applications.
Most of the app now require acces to the phone calls..even a news app requires it, sms app such as go sms also requires it. So I want to know after knowing that an app will be able to acces your phone call you still download it? And does anyone in what way the developers use such info?
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Excellent topic, I'm really troubled by this. The business world makes a whole lot of money based on the average persons inertia - their lack of information or willingness when it comes to the products and services they use and the money they use to pay for them. Particular mobile phone network providers come to mind, who are happy to charge the most expensive prices because people don't know or don't care.
This lazy attitude is seeping into the Android app world. It will be a small per centage of us who will realize this threat and do something about it - exactly like cookies and public wifi privacy etc.
For those of us already interested, are there websites or apps which can guide us on this?
I had thought about it before but it seemed to be all apps out there at least need to access your internet, calls, phonebook and etc.. Not sure really if some of these nasty apps has the evil purpose to steal our vital informations in the phone... say if we're checking our bank account or something similar..
What I practice:
1) Installed AVG pro and do scan regularly, and set to scan every newly installed apps.
2) Use both cache cleaner and history eraser to clean up all traces once a day.
3) Hope they don't see me as a target.
Don't worry.
I think access to the phone calls is just to minimize the running app in case you receive a call. In other case you would not even realize an incoming call?!
Deehee3 said:
Don't worry.
I think access to the phone calls is just to minimize the running app in case you receive a call. In other case you would not even realize an incoming call?!
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What about data? When you install an app in most cases you allow data access to it.
Searching for updates or viewing developers homepage maybe?
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Searching for updates or viewing developers homepage maybe?
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What if not? What if app you´ve installed is spying on you and sending info to hackers. How would you know?
On android we have the luck that there are a lot of applications that are open source. When I have to choose an application, I always choose and support the open projects!
You will notice that most of those applications don't need all that personal information! Makes you wonder...
On other systems, apps usually have an user/administrator scheme, where the 'user' has access to some things and 'administrator' has access to everything.
There is no such thing on Android (except if you have a rooted phone and some app asks for superuser access, but you get a requester asking for permissions as well).
Each app has to specifically ask for permissions or the system will deny it. A spyware has to ask for those permissions or it won't work.
Some permission requests to look out for:
- "Call phone"
can be used by the application to silently dial some "premium" numbers
- "Send SMS"
can be used to send SMS to special "premium" numbers
- "Record phone calls"
can be harmful if associated with "internet access" permission
- "Access fine location"/"access coarse location" and "internet access"
can be used for tracking purposes
Many apps ask for:
- "Phone identity" / "internet access"
they use it for "statistics purposes" (flurry.com mostly) but it is bad. The developer should always inform the user about those.
BTW, that an app is open source makes no difference. Someone can always (willingly or not) tamper with the final build. And not everyone reviews open source apps.
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A spyware has to ask for those permissions or it won't work.
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Sure. But if an app legitimately ask for data transmission and file system access, AND you grant it, how would you know it is not using the granted rights for something else?
ppirate said:
On android we have the luck that there are a lot of applications that are open source. When I have to choose an application, I always choose and support the open projects!
You will notice that most of those applications don't need all that personal information! Makes you wonder...
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Don´t tell me that you evaluate the source code of each application you load from the market. And even so, how would you know the difference between what is shown to you and the final build, available on the market?
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Sure. But if an app legitimately ask for data transmission and file system access, AND you grant it, how would you know it is not using the granted rights for something else?
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Filesystem access are limited to the external memory card. An app with such permission cannot access other apps' private data (which are stored on the phone).
Android apps are all sandboxed into their own homes.
A good example of a suspicious application is HTML5 Reference.
"This HTML5 reference lists all tags supported in the HTML5 specification.", fine. Let's look at the permissions:
Network communication: full Internet access
Phone calls: read phone state and identity
While the first 2 could be produced as a side effect of the developer implementing some "statistics library" (flurry.com or so), the next 2:
Your location: fine (GPS) location
Your personal information: read sensitive log data
Are a giveaway that this app does a bit more than just listing HTML reference tags
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Filesystem access are limited to the external memory card. An app with such permission cannot access other apps' private data (which are stored on the phone).
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Ok, how about a picture viewer, which usually picks pictures from each and every
directory, no matter if you want it (and not only from memory card).
Hey vlissine and zapek666. You both have a point.
One individual cannot review every code he or she uses. And also one does not only uses his or her own builds of the projects. But every now and then, I have to go into a project, mostly to add functionality. During that time, I usually have to go over a lot of code to understand the program. It is no guarantee, but you can imagine that some strange code will stand out.
I'm surely not the only person. So while one individual is not capable of such an endeavor. A lot are.
Your other point is as valid as can be. But here again, builds are comparable.
Surely, one does not have to find himself or herself obliged to use certain kind of projects. But to me, when I have the change, I use and support the open source project. One important reason is because of the concern raised by the original poster!
http://googlemobile.blogspot.com/2011/03/update-on-android-market-security.html
Apparently we were not that paranoid, thinking of spying apps
Two options:
1) To avoid being spy and get super paranoid about it... ditch your smartphone and get those early 2000 phones with only calls and sms capable.
2) Use the smart phone eg: X10 mini/pro or any android phones and ignore these spying scene and live with it like nothing ever going to happen since this new technologies really live up our life nowadays..
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Two options:
1) To avoid being spy and get super paranoid about it... ditch your smartphone and get those early 2000 phones with only calls and sms capable.
2) Use the smart phone eg: X10 mini/pro or any android phones and ignore these spying scene and live with it like nothing ever going to happen since this new technologies really live up our life nowadays..
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One more option - stop giving stupid advises when you have nothing to say.
maybe apps need to call functions or need it to run?
write them your self if your that bothered?
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I have an Update for Smart device manager in the android market... But i am unaware of what it does or what it is for... can some explain this to me.
Yea I noticed that update too. I'd like to know if I should update it as well.
You guys might want to look at this link: https://market.android.com/developer?pub=Location+Labs
That is just a list of there applications... that does not tell me what it is ... thank you though...
http://www.locationlabs.com/
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it could be 'carrier id' or simply the app that allows you to do 'parental controls'.. Sprint allows you to track your children's phones etc...
just sayin'
I've noticed that after I updated this app, I've been randomly receiving text messages filled with random text. I'm tempted to uninstall it but I don't know if there will be repercussions.
gollyzila said:
I've noticed that after I updated this app, I've been randomly receiving text messages filled with random text. I'm tempted to uninstall it but I don't know if there will be repercussions.
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back up the .apk if you can, remove it and if it craps out your phone, re-install..
or make a nandroid backup (if you're rooted) then delete it.. if it craps out, restore..
I got tired of seeing it on app brain so I updated it. Haven't had any issues. I don't even think the app is running.
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back up the .apk if you can, remove it and if it craps out your phone, re-install..
or make a nandroid backup (if you're rooted) then delete it.. if it craps out, restore..
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I just got this phone and am new to Android so I don't want to mess with it too much too soon. My temporary solution was to blacklist the sender using Go SMS Pro.
Ok, I am looking at an online Android/iPhone app builder. They either offer the option to build one for free with unlimited downloads or you can pay yearly with different tiers for different download limits. The difference being that the free one has ads.
Anyways, when asked about just creating the app with their site, then hosting it on your own server and having everyone download it from there instead of paying the yearly fees, the site owner made this statement.
" my personal opinion in the long run you will pay more in this case because every time when apple releaes new iOS (like 6 now) or android has new phone (like samsung galaxy S 3 now) you will have to purchase new binary code from us that supports the latest updates/fixes."
Is this true? I don't see how each new device that comes out will require an update in your app.
Also, as stated, if you pay the yearly fee for the lowest amount of downloads, I assume they can only track downloads from Google Play or the Apple app store. I don't see any way they can track downloads from my own server hosting the .apk file. Anyone have any insight on this to correct me if I'm wrong?
For the record, I'm just looking to develop an app to play my Shoutcast Streaming audio station. I make no profit on the station, so have no capital to spend over $1K a year to have an Android and iPhone app. I mainly want to give it to my friends, and make it available to anyone who visits my Website. I really like the design that I did with this site, and am willing to pay something for it, just not worth $1K./year....
Anybody?
Have you tried installing the official Android Software Development Kit on your computer, and making the app yourself? You don't need to use an online service, and you choose exactly what gets compiled into the apk (ads, Google analytics, etc.).
post-mortem said:
Have you tried installing the official Android Software Development Kit on your computer, and making the app yourself? You don't need to use an online service, and you choose exactly what gets compiled into the apk (ads, Google analytics, etc.).
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Thank you for the reply.
I actually do have the SDK installed, and am looking into what it takes to make my own app. But, don't I have to know xml and Java to create apps using the SDK?
You do need to know those two languages.
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But, don't I have to know xml and Java to create apps using the SDK?
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That online service allows you to write apps without knowing xml or Java?
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That online service allows you to write apps without knowing xml or Java?
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Yes, it's kind of like Appinventor, all visual, just assemble the parts and stuff.
It's nice, just kinda pricey. I once posted the job on freelancer.com and got offers for about as much as this company is asking, and with freelancer I would have owned the app afterwards.
But, again, it's kinda hard to foot the bill when it's a non profit app.
Ok, I'm off to learn XML and Java.......
Oh, almost forgot.... the original questions...
" my personal opinion in the long run you will pay more in this case because every time when apple releaes new iOS (like 6 now) or android has new phone (like samsung galaxy S 3 now) you will have to purchase new binary code from us that supports the latest updates/fixes."
Is this true? I don't see how each new device that comes out will require an update in your app.
Also, as stated, if you pay the yearly fee for the lowest amount of downloads, I assume they can only track downloads from Google Play or the Apple app store. I don't see any way they can track downloads from my own server hosting the .apk file. Anyone have any insight on this to correct me if I'm wrong?
any ideas anyone?
I think he means every time Google releases an update to Android (updated OS, not new device). So, for example, you build your app to run on Jelly Bean. But when Key Lime Pie comes out, your app may not work as expected on those devices running KLP. Then, you'd have to pay them to recompile your app with updated binaries, or risk losing market share.
If your app is really simple and would run fine on Android 2.2 and up, then that "purchase new binary" thing is not applicable.
But, hell, if you're willing to learn XML & Java... go for it!
Hi everyone
Just wanted to ask, what are your must have apps?
I need some ideas for new apps. The only apps (except the XKCD viewer) I could think of are listed in the core apps and I don't feel like joining these projects just yet.
So if you have any ideas or if you know some Android or iOS apps which could be ported leave a comment.
1. An IM client like Empathy
2. A Wallbase application/or anything that fetches nice HD wallpapers.
3. An application to watch anime
I had a similar question earlier, you might be able to mine something from those that answered
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2105374
The main app most people wanted was What's App, but I saw that some one else has been developing a client for it.
For the Galaxy Notes:
-full Gimp with GAP, pressure sensitive
-Mypaint, pressure sensitive
kdenlive video editor
recordmydesktop screen capture
Billy_Oneironaut said:
For the Galaxy Notes:
-full Gimp with GAP, pressure sensitive
-Mypaint, pressure sensitive
kdenlive video editor
recordmydesktop screen capture
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I think that's a bit far-fetched for now..
Hempe said:
Hi everyone
Just wanted to ask, what are your must have apps?
I need some ideas for new apps. The only apps (except the XKCD viewer) I could think of are listed in the core apps and I don't feel like joining these projects just yet.
So if you have any ideas or if you know some Android or iOS apps which could be ported leave a comment.
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a Google Voice VoIP client, like Grooveip and Spare Phone on android
Hempe said:
Hi everyone
Just wanted to ask, what are your must have apps?
I need some ideas for new apps. The only apps (except the XKCD viewer) I could think of are listed in the core apps and I don't feel like joining these projects just yet.
So if you have any ideas or if you know some Android or iOS apps which could be ported leave a comment.
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Airdroid, sound hound, projectM, photo editor, IP Cam Viewer, team viewer, Xtremlabs Speedtest, Phone Ringtone, Angry Birds, Tango Remote
I think the drawing/photo editing APP is great idea.
When i have time i'll sketch something up and make a new thread.
What about a sportstracker app? Endomondo is awesome....something like that or a client for endomondo.
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amgz
Just give us whatsapppppp t_t
I am not going to make a whats APP client! I really dislike whatsapp. (There API is closed eeg. Free for only 100k users Ort something)
Hempe said:
I am not going to make a whats APP client! I really dislike whatsapp. (There API is closed eeg. Free for only 100k users Ort something)
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Luckely somebody is already working on a client for whatsapp. Its one of the most used apps en i think very important to make people wanna use phones with UT installed on it.
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A QR reader
A QR reader sounds like a good idea as well.
Only problem the nexus7's camera is not yet working
But definitly something for the todo list: -)
A decent torrent client please!
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Chief
Hempe said:
Hi everyone
Just wanted to ask, what are your must have apps?
I need some ideas for new apps. The only apps (except the XKCD viewer) I could think of are listed in the core apps and I don't feel like joining these projects just yet.
So if you have any ideas or if you know some Android or iOS apps which could be ported leave a comment.
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It is my firm belief that we should have an APP INSTALL client that seamlessly installs apps FIRST! Then let the DEVS roll out the suggestions. What's the format anyway? not APK I would guess. I think a nice APK converter would work nicely then.
Chief out
buxtor said:
It is my firm belief that we should have an APP INSTALL client that seamlessly installs apps FIRST! Then let the DEVS roll out the suggestions. What's the format anyway? not APK I would guess. I think a nice APK converter would work nicely then.
Chief out
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- What the heck is an APK? (That's only for Android and has nothing todo with linux, yes I said it android has nothing todo with linux )
- There are many ways to install an app.
-> you can install a .deb file
-> add a ppa our use the official repos and install via consol
-> build the binarys from source....
Currently someone is working on an "app store" but this is not a priority since ubuntu touch is still in pre alpha.
P.S. I am a DEV and I need some Ideas that's why I started the thread.
Some way to access Pandora One. I listen to some 300 hours a month, so it's definitely a requirement, not a 'want'.
Statement form pandoras website
We are deeply, deeply sorry to say that due to licensing constraints, we can no longer allow access to Pandora for listeners located outside of the U.S., Australia and New Zealand. We will continue to work diligently to realize the vision of a truly global Pandora, but for the time being we are required to restrict its use. We are very sad to have to do this, but there is no other alternative. ....
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A Pandora client sounded like a good idea but "this" makes it rather impossible
Hope you'll find some dev's located in the us that can help you with that.
I'm personally worried about not having an app to track and control my phone in the event it's lost or stolen. An Ubuntu touch UI for Prey or something to that effect would be awesome.
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