Hey, I've been noticing something odd in my flashing experiences with SuperClean since 2.8.
After I flash a new ROM or a kernel, for about twelve hours afterwards, "Android System" has almost a 100% partial wakelock on the system as listed in Spare Parts. After that initial time period, it drops like a rock and the battery doesn't drain nearly as fast. Is anyone one else noticing this? If so, does anyone know what the cause is? Like I said, it fades after about a half a day, so it's not an ongoing drain. I'm just curious more than anything else.
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Hey, I've been noticing something odd in my flashing experiences with SuperClean since 2.8.
After I flash a new ROM or a kernel, for about twelve hours afterwards, "Android System" has almost a 100% partial wakelock on the system as listed in Spare Parts. After that initial time period, it drops like a rock and the battery doesn't drain nearly as fast. Is anyone one else noticing this? If so, does anyone know what the cause is? Like I said, it fades after about a half a day, so it's not an ongoing drain. I'm just curious more than anything else.
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mine was doing the same, then i realized my gps was on. this is a know issue, if you have gps turned on, turn it off and you should get great battery. if this isnt the case...then i dont know. im on 2.9.2, when in doubt i think reboot a few times as well. Im somewhat new but i read a lot.
I've always found a wakelock with auto-rotation on. Leaving it off has drastically improved my battery life. The gps situation has a workaround: use any app that needs a lock(like google maps, nav or earth; I use gps status, free from market), open the app & let it lock, close it & no more wake-lock. Also, toggling airplane mode works for the high Tw/oS bug.
After flashing a new ROM I always turn aiplane mode ON and let my phone sleep for some time (1 hour).
I also remove most of my widgets (Plume, FB, calendar some others).
Reboot phone and turn airplane mode OFF.
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Hello all,
I purchased a Galaxy S2 at the end of July, I live in the US, so it was from Amazon. The phone has been phenomenal, an amazing piece of technology.
I rooted the phone and flashed Lite'ning Rom 6.1 XXKH3. Still worked great, with no problems at all.
However, starting about a week ago, I am getting an extremely fast battery drain. Since then, I have spent hours looking at threads trying to figure out what was going on. I updated the rom to UltraToxic Rom v8.0 XWKK5, still no change.
I used Titanium Backup to freeze many widgets and app processes, still no change. I am currently using better battery stats to monitor wake locks, however after managing the wake locks, still no change.
I then bought a replacement battery thinking that the battery may have been bad, sadly, there was no change.
I have been trying to find a solution to this and had tried many other suggestions in other threads to no avail. As of now I have come to the conclusion that the device might have some type of malfunction that is causing this.
Am I going crazy or am I missing something obvious? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
I have also re-calibrated the battery, still no positive changes.
Seeing the battery graph, you have your screen on a lot of time. Screen sucks battery a lot, so there might be one of the causes of battery draing.
Also you seem to have all day enabled 3G/WiFi, that also sucks some battery with it.
You can try JuiceDefender and see if it can help you extend a little your battery.
change kernel
Try flashing hardcore's "SpeedMod Kernel" and you will never complain about your battery life.....
After flashing this kernel my worse battery life was 1day and 12h with 3.5h screen on and wifi 85% ON.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182498&highlight=speedmod+kernel
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Seeing the battery graph, you have your screen on a lot of time. Screen sucks battery a lot, so there might be one of the causes of battery draing.
Also you seem to have all day enabled 3G/WiFi, that also sucks some battery with it.
You can try JuiceDefender and see if it can help you extend a little your battery.
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Lol.... It's obvious he has some kind of battery problem, he is not using the phone much, and galaxy S 2 should have at least 5-6 hours screen on time and the phone lasted 3 hours.
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Since I had all data on the phone backed up, I did a factory reset. I also flashed the UltraToxic Rom v8.0 XWKK5 as well as the suggested SpeedMod Kernel. When the battery was at 100%, I calibrated the battery. I tried to leave the phone idle as much as possible, I did use the internet for about 10 minutes to check e-mail, news, etc. So now the phone is essentially "empty" in terms of apps downloaded, I got rid of all widgets on all home screens.
There was still no positive change, I do really like the SpeedMod Kernel though, I do notice faster responsiveness from the phone.
I am beginning to think that the problem may be the hardware and not the software or battery.
I've got similar problems here. I am suspecting a hardware problem (I damn well hope it isn't coz i got mine from hong kong) because my phone never goes into deep sleep mode for more than 50% while the screen is off. I've tried at least half a dozen different kernels and roms and nothing helps, this is even in airplane mode i.e. with pretty much everything turned off. I've tested wakelocks and dont get anything more than a couple of seconds. I had my battery charged to full at 6:30am this morning, went to work and got home and it was dead after just under 12 hours with being idle 75% of the time. This is worrying as most people's battery lasts at least a whole day.
So I know it can't be the kernel, I know it cant be wakelocks, I know it cant be wifi or 3g data or anything of that nature so the only thing it comes down to now is hardware...
Funnily enough I've had exactly the same issue since about a week ago. Even when I take it off charge it's almost immediately down to around 80%. It's lasting around 4-5 hours, even when I'm not using the phone much, plus it gets really hot.
A couple of times Social Hub has appeared high up on the list of battery draining apps, although I don't use it. It doesn't always show up though. I switched to the CF-Root kernel and started using GO Launcher EX recently and wondered if that (or one of it's addon widgets) could be the cause.
It's really bugging me now!
SOLVED!
After days and days of trying to fix the issue of the phone not sleeping (and therefore draining excess battery whilst idling) I have finally fixed it!!!!!
First i noticed that along with the sleep problems, I was getting the problems with car mode popping up randomly, the phone going into mtp connection mode, and thinking its charging when it was unplugged. After looking into these issues (and i thought it was a longshot) I decided to do what people were saying and CLEAN THE MICRO USB PORT.
Now you're probably thinking I am a crazy man, but now im just crazy happy that I don't have to send my phone back to Hong Kong!
Instructions:
1. Get a clean, dry, soft-bristled toothbrush.
2. Take any case you have off the phone.
3. Gently insert the bristles into the port and "flick" it out softly.
4. Repeat this about 10-15 times
No matter what ROM, what kernel, what modem i tried flashing, my phone was always sitting on no more than 50% deep sleep mode when idle and had no wakelocks or "rogue apps".
I am now getting 90% - 98% DEEP SLEEP MODE!
I obviously can't guarantee that it will work for everyone, heck how it solved the issue is a mystery to me, one which probably an electronically-minded/computer systems person could answer. What I can say though is I searched high and low online for about a week. I tried different kernels, I tried different ROMs, I tried "re-calibrating" the battery, I used BBS to check for partial wakelocks. If you too have tried all this and have had no success please PLEASE try this and see if you have success!!
Thanks for reading!
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Or if you didnt...
TL;DR: If you're having battery drain problems clean the micro USB port with a soft toothbrush.
The phone never sleeps when charging, the CPU idles at 200 MHz, whatever was in your USB port was probably making contact with the pins that tells the phone it is connected to a charger when it actually is not, so it was idling at 200 MHz and was not receiving power, that's the only explanation I could fathom
Do two things:
Install CPU spy and show us what the deep sleep percentages are,
and try disabling wifi. Also, what is the router?
I have a battery drain issue; but its kind of screwey as i will reboot my phone and lose about 20% of the phones charge. If i turn it off and leave it off for an hour the charge comes back. Its random as well; only happens once a week. I have had this problem on different roms. You might have a similar problem to me. Possible the hardware that detects battery state is knackered.
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try to reduce screen brightness it might help, and when on wifi turn off data plan might help too
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try to reduce screen brightness it might help, and when on wifi turn off data plan might help too
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Since you didn't seem to realize, I thought I'd tell you. This thread was 5 months old before you posted in it...
lol
Because Im seriously curious... This phone has a rap of being "atrocious" in terms of battery life... Now I'm not making this post to be mean or anything, In fact I really do want to know what IS causing it or some theories.. and share one theory I have
But my personal experience really says otherwise, Tonight I set a new "record" on my One X+, 16 hours 28 minutes with 2 hours 43 minutes screen on time... And I didnt do anything "extreme" to achieve it, My Google Now is on, my location services are on, autosync is enabled.. About the only thing I have done is install JuiceDefender (My previous record without Juice Defender was about 15-something hours) I watched youtube videos, Read some websites, listened to music, and even played some games... I'm completely stock, no roms or anything
Now, I will note, I had a problem the other day where my battery killed itself, FAST.. After a bit of digging around and tweaking, I discovered the cause was that my One X+ wasnt entering Deep Sleep, and thus the processor was staying at 475mhz or so even when the screen was locked (Causing the battery to be drained like i was using it) What caused this? My Wi-Fi, of all things, While I had a really good signal, I had it prioritizing the 5.8ghz radio, and in my room, the 5.8ghz signal is fairly weak as im a ways from my router... so the phone was switching between it and the 2.4ghz signal, causing the phone to be unable to sleep, Removing the 5.8ghz AP from my phone fixed the issue completely and my phone returned to "normal" behavior...
Yeah i know it sounds really farfetched and weird, and took me a bit of googling to get the idea that this might be what was causing my issue (I tested my hypothesis by turning Wi-Fi off completely and using Cell data, Sure enough my phone slept like a baby and barely used any battery.. i flipped Wi-Fi on and suddenly the phone was drinking its battery down rapidly.. I disabled the 5.8ghz AP and suddenly the phone worked 100% properly again)
I suspect that this is the cause behind some folks who are saying their phone is draining down 7% in 20 minutes with it locked, Its simply not entering deep sleep, the processor is doing something in the background... Could some of them be having the problem i just described? Its possible, Especially if you have multiple Wi-Fi points in your house.. Could the wi-fi in the One X+ be bugged? I dunno, Thats possible to, Thats why I'm posting this...
Now of course some people need a phone that is going to go for 2-3 days without a charge, and no, this isnt the phone for you (There arent many smartphones out there that can manage that if you actually USE it any) But really.. 16 hours with 3 hours of screen on time is pretty darn good.. Thats getting quite close to my Galaxy Nexus with a 3500mah Extended Battery (Around 18h standby, 3.5-4 hours screen on) despite all of the "handicaps" the One X+ has over the simple GNex (Like LTE and a Quad Core processor) and is vastly better than my stock Galaxy Nexus battery which died constantly...
And yes, heres a screenshot as proof if you dont believe me...
I just want to add that I find that googlenow also drains the battery and as such I always disable it. It was a problem on my S2 and thus I have disabled it on my HOX+
Honestly, mine wasn't lasting longer than 8 hours until I rooted it and simply "froze" all of the AT&T apps I wasn't using. That alone gave me an extra 2-3 hours a day of battery life! (I've read here that the AT&T apps, even if you aren't using them, keep running in the background) The other thing that seems to help is an app called Smart WiFi toggler that's done wonders for both myself and everyone else I know who uses it in terms of minimizing WiFi battery usage.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sebouh00.smartwifitoggler&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5zZWJvdWgwMC5zbWFydHdpZml0b2dnbGVyIl0.
I'm sure other folks have other tips, but this has been the winning combo for me.
I should add that i also froze every ATT app i could and never opened ANY of them.. So maybe thats part of it as well..
JuiceDefender i believe is doing something similar for me with the Wi-Fi by turning it off when its not needed...
My battery life was terrible when I first got this phone. I let it charge out completely once this month and I've been using LBE Security Master. Those two things have greatly extended my battery so much I have been able to go more than a day with it before charging. Another factor might be that my phone isn't carrier branded or anything.
The "My Wi-Fi isnt letting my phone enter deep sleep" thing is actually starting to get annoying, I thought i fixed it but it keeps coming back...and yes, it is legitimately killing my battery at twice the normal rate because the phone will -not- enter deep sleep
My phone goes into deep sleep just fine if i turn Wi-Fi off...and my battery drain returns to normal....So it cant be some app downloading stuff or constantly pinging the internet or else it would do the same thing when im on LTE...
Also i've reset the "Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep" option to never 20 times now, it keeps going back to "always" on me...
Ideas?
My battery life is ok. See here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2067143
Mine is too, Provided i turn Wi-Fi off or i get the bug to go away for a bit (basically toggling wi-fi on and off a few times and twiddling with the settings makes it work right, but the problem comes back minutes or hours later)
Otherwise, Wi-Fi wont let my phone enter deep sleep, and my battery drains like im using it..
The thing thats annoying me more is that the "Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep" setting will not stay where i set it and keeps going back to the default setting....
I guess i can just toggle wi-fi on and off manually...
Can anyone help me with this problem here?
I have been trying various roms on my Vibrant, but didn't spend a ton of time on the ones before Paranoid Android because they seemed unstable. So I can't fully tell you if I was having this issue before, but I will say that the battery drain didn't seem as extreme.
I noticed that I was having extreme battery drain the night after I flashed PA (it was plugged in overnight). I was trying to charge it before I went out, and here's something weird - I was talking on the phone plugged into *AC* power (NOT usb!) and the battery drained during the call! That kind of threw me because it's never something that's happened on AC for me. By the time I went outside, it was down to almost nothing, drained about 5% in 3 minutes walking to the bus stop and died. I recharged it again, swapped in my extra battery in case it was a battery problem, and noticed that also it took a couple of hours of basically not using the phone to drain to 0. I have no signal issues in my area.
I noticed that in BBS that a wakelock ste-gps-interface was taking up a TON of time. I am not using GPS that much. I figured it may be Google now, so I actually froze the app. That didn't seem to help, so I turned of Google location services as much as I could to still use maps - basically everything short of turning GPS off itself. I still got the wakelock! This shows up in the battery settings as making "Android OS" jump to 50% when this is happening.
So since whatever is triggering this wakelock causes the phone to not go into deep sleep and idle at 100mhz, I'm getting bad battery drain. I tried several things such as updating the Semaphore kernel, reflashing the GPS data, using an AGPS app to reset the cache, and tweaking the CPU governor/IO settings. For some reason I seemed to get some relief after reflashing the GPS data once and then clearing cache/dalvik cache, but the issue has come back again.
I couldn't find any informative posts on it, but interesting the posts that I did find were Vibrant specific. If anyone has any ideas past turning GPS off completely please let me know. One thing I have not tried is kernels other than Semaphore, but I've heard that Semaphore is a good match with PA. Thanks!
Edit: I may be wrong because this seems odd, but even turning the GPS off in location preferences doesn't seem to be stopping the wakelock!
Have you calibrated your battery? You should always calibrate after flashing a new rom. I'm not sure about the wake locks you speak of since I have never flashed a PA rom. Someone else may have some insight on that, in the meantime definitely calibrate your battery. I recommend this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration. You must be rooted, I'm assuming you are...
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Thanks, but since this is a wakelock issue with CPU processes running amok I'm afraid battery calibration won't help but to get a few more seconds out of it before it dies in an hour :/
I do think I have found the issue for now, but it's confusing that it's related, so if anyone could shed some light on it, that'd be great. If not, hopefully others who search for it will be able to look for similar issues on their phone.
In the past on other phones, I used the CPU Editor mod that you can find on XDA. I was partial to it because I got good results with the battery saver profile, and unlike other apps on the market that kept a running process, this one was all on the command line. For some reason when I set the profile through the command line and exit the app, as long as it's enabled, the ste-gps-interface wakelock flares up and drains the battery in a matter of hours since the device cannot idle. It was a tough connection to make because I had even disabled GPS entirely and was still getting the wakelock, so I'm still not sure what the connection could be. I did notice that putting CPU Editor into sticky mode caused the device to bootloop, so I wouldn't suggest this script for PA in my experience.
I have since switched back to just using Semaphore Manager to handle CPU and governor settings to keep stuff simple, which I probably should have done in the first place Sort of ironic that trying to squeeze some more battery out of that device caused the wakelock bug. I'd ask the author of the script about it, but it seems to be kind of dead - yet another reason to move on. Smartassv2 is good enough for my purposes!
I'm now having problems with this as well. Rebooting doesn't help and neither does a data wipe. I've been on CM 10.1 nightlies for the last couple weeks and this started on Saturday. Won't allow phone to go into deep sleep. I tried the Greenify method but it doesn't seem to be working from another post... Anyone have any more info?
Welp, I think its a hardware problem unfortunately... The phone went into Safe Mode last weekend when it got damp from rain. Probably due to that.
I've tried everything... I've reverted to stock and wiped everything via odin and it still wont sleep. Time for a new phone! Been a good (almost) 3 years.
Did you try to full formatting to FAT 32 (by USB connection with a PC) both the sdcard and emmc?
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Did you try to full formatting to FAT 32 (by USB connection with a PC) both the sdcard and emmc?
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Just did and no go... Still occurring.
Possible Fix
Kind of digging up an old thread but since there was no solution posted, I thought I'd post this for anyone else having this issue and happen to stumble upon this thread.
I had the same issue with SlimBeans where ste-gps-interface was keeping my device awake. I just flashed the gps fix below and initial results show that my phone is going into deep sleep, hopefully this remains to be the case.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2089338
Edit: So after a day's worth of testing, I can say that it worked for me.
Apparently the Insert Image function doesn't work as I expected... so here's a link to the image:
http://ctrlv.in/192705
Hi, I've had quite a few roms on the Vibrant (all JB) and they've all suffered from poor battery life due to a GPS wakelock getting out of control and leaving the phone stuck at 100mhz, unable to go into deep sleep. The wakelock I see mostly is ste-gps-interface. There isn't much out there except a previous post that I made thinking I fixed it (which wasn't the case, I just did something to make it happen more frequently). Interestingly enough too if you google "ste-gps-interface" nearly all the information out there is for the Vibrant. I know there have been GPS issues with this phone and I guess I'm lucky that GPS works at all.
Basically what would happen is that once the wakelock got started, nothing short of a reboot would clear it, and then it would happen maybe only a few hours after rebooting the phone again. Actually turning GPS off is not a solution. I think I even tried to kill the GPS daemon and that was not a solution either. Installing tweaking scripts seemed to trigger it more for me but I couldn't pinpoint any one action - it would just be the case that the longer I had the phone on, with any rom, inevitably the wakelock issue would rear its ugly head. I'm surprised not more people have mentioned it on here, but it could be that they're not aware of it, and just assuming that battery life is a little bad. It's acceptable when idling at 100mhz but I'd never get a full day out of it. I'm about one day and 4 hours now and at 40% with this fix. I have gone about 4 days with this fix and it seems to be holding so I'm fairly confident to say that at least for me it seems to have solved the problem.
Here is what I did. Download the app Greenify. This hibernates apps and services when the screen goes off. Curious to see if this would help my issues, I greenified Maps. This seemed to help a little bit, but the issue popped up again. I then turned Google Now into a user app via Titanium Backup and Greenfied that as well (Greenify won't let you freeze system apps, and it's safe to make google now a user app because it's not an essential process). You can find this app on the market. I have gone over a day today and I have only had 10 mins of the wakelock, opposed to nearly continuous (hours upon hours) of the wakelock, draining the battery. The only drawback I could see is if you depend on services that need maps or google now to be running when the phone is off, like latitude or location history. I imagine too that hibernating this nasty service just helps with battery life in general.
I'm very curious about this fix, because I wonder if it's a bug on Google's end. I've often thought that the location services seem buggy and excessive. This is worth trying just for battery alone. You can verify if you have the wakelock issue by using BetterBatteryStats and looking at kernel wakelocks (will have a ste-gps-interface wakelock going for almost the entire boot time), or even just looking at any CPU state breakdown - if you see only a tiny bit of time in deep sleep and the rest in 100mhz, that could indicate you're experiencing it as well. Please let me know if this helps anyone and thank you to the app developer of Greenify
Hello everyone, I'm using Motorola Atrix with Epinter CM10 4.1 ROM for last 2 months, I was very happy with battery life. Phone wasn't getting hot and with normal usage, even with 3G on (in my country only options are 2G and 3G), I could get %40 of battery end of the day. But for no reason, phone has started to get hot (only 2G on) and drains battery really quickly for last 1 week. I can't even get %5 battery left from morning to evening now. I didn't change anything, only installed Adobe Flash 11.1, then I deleted it but nothing has changed. Phone gets into deep sleep no problem with that, no background apps. I did a virus scan both on phone and from computer, both came out clean. I reinstalled rom. Nothing. I'm gonna crash my phone against wall it's really annoying. I think I'm gonna do factory wipe and reinstall rom again.
Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
Do you leave wifi switched on at all times?
I use MIUI on my Atrix (partially based on epinter's work, I believe? Correct me if I'm wrong), but I have found that the phone suddenly starts staying awake for no apparent reason a while (often a couple of days) after I've left wifi switched on. This obviously causes bad battery drain. I can usually get the phone to sleep again by rebooting with wifi switched off (I think) and a battery pull is invariably required.
I now just switch on wifi when I have large files to download then turn it off straight afterwards.
Not sure if it is the same issue or not, but Better Battery Stats (which can be downloaded on xda) indicated the Rilj process was stopping the phone from sleeping when this problem occurred. It is worth trying this app to see if it gives any indication what is causing your battery drain.
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Do you leave wifi switched on at all times?
I use MIUI on my Atrix (partially based on epinter's work, I believe? Correct me if I'm wrong), but I have found that the phone suddenly starts staying awake for no apparent reason a while (often a couple of days) after I've left wifi switched on. This obviously causes bad battery drain. I can usually get the phone to sleep again by rebooting with wifi switched off (I think) and a battery pull is invariably required.
I now just switch on wifi when I have large files to download then turn it off straight afterwards.
Not sure if it is the same issue or not, but Better Battery Stats (which can be downloaded on xda) indicated the Rilj process was stopping the phone from sleeping when this problem occurred. It is worth trying this app to see if it gives any indication what is causing your battery drain.
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No I switch between mobile data and wifi. Thank you for your suggestions and opinions but I really don't think my problem is about sleep. It started to get hot and drain when I actually use the phone. For example, I was checking Twitter for 10 min. with 3G and battery was dropping %1. Now it drops %5 with 2G on and gets really hot like 35-37 Celsius degree. I'm using Watchdog to oversee processes and nothing is working without my knowledge on background.
Hi,
I have the same problem on the nottachtrix roms since the last 2 weeks, I tried switching to epinter cm10 with no luck. Ordered a new battery to check if the battery is dead or if the atrix is faulty
if you find a fix, please post it here
ogeday said:
Hello everyone, I'm using Motorola Atrix with Epinter CM10 4.1 ROM for last 2 months, I was very happy with battery life. Phone wasn't getting hot and with normal usage, even with 3G on (in my country only options are 2G and 3G), I could get %40 of battery end of the day. But for no reason, phone has started to get hot (only 2G on) and drains battery really quickly for last 1 week. I can't even get %5 battery left from morning to evening now. I didn't change anything, only installed Adobe Flash 11.1, then I deleted it but nothing has changed. Phone gets into deep sleep no problem with that, no background apps. I did a virus scan both on phone and from computer, both came out clean. I reinstalled rom. Nothing. I'm gonna crash my phone against wall it's really annoying. I think I'm gonna do factory wipe and reinstall rom again.
Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
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install gsam battery monitor to see your phone's awake time. this drain happens to me also when i listen to music or take a photo. something with mediaserver keeps the phone awake and then only thing to do is kill mediaserver or a reboot.
Regardless of which other apps you are using to monitor app and process usage, I'd recommend trying Better Battery Stats as this is much more detailed and low-level than other apps I've encountered.
It's a free download for xda members:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
Little update.
I turned back to factory settings, then did a full wipe, cache wipe, dalvik wipe. I was so annoyed I even did system wipe manually from advanced options in recovery. I reinstalled Epinter CM10 rom, got my apps back thanks to Titanium Backup. Installed GSAM (thanks to saldirai), downloaded SetCpu and chose Nvidia Tegra 2 T20/AP20H, underclocked to 912 mhz. Couldn't done any undervolting sadly, says something about governor.
Now I'm checking battery stats and temperature by GSAM, so far no complaints and better from yesterday BUT I haven't use my phone heavily yet. Temperature changes between 26-31 Celsius degrees, battery drops %1-2 percent on use -also it needs calibration- with only wifi use which is always on. I'll update this post if anything changes.
Update: I think I've found the problem. When I choose The Weather Channel widget to "use my location" phone immediately starts to get warm. Weird point is, this wasn't an issue before. Apart from that I'm playing New Star Soccer and Carmageddon for 3-4 hours with wi-fi full time on and battery drops to %30. I'm really happy about that. Normal battery temperature is about 25-32 during the day and different from before it quickly gets cold after I stop playing games. Just like before.