Its finally here!!! Its in the Market now. Cost is a little high $15.00, but it is a great home replacement!!
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Is it any better than the beta version? BC I definitely was not impressed ...
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Is it any better than the beta version? BC I definitely was not impressed ...
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this.....beta version sucked so bad....and there is absolutely no way i can forsee the quality of this app justifying its obscene cost
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Is it any better than the beta version? BC I definitely was not impressed ...
Not sure. Just wondering, what was wrong with the beta version. So far everything seems to be smooth.
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@op please let us know your experience in detail. and have you used any alternate launchers to compare it to?
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@op please let us know your experience in detail. and have you used any alternate launchers to compare it to?
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I have used all the launchers adw, launcher pro, and so on. My opinion is, that this is above all of them. I wasn't able to use the beta version, and I know people had some complaints about it. I am currently using Simply Galaxy 2.7.2 w/ speedbooster rom and I am seeing no lag at all. I've only had it for a few hours, I can get back to you after 24hr use if you would like.
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Ah, the beta sucked. Was, in my opinion, not living up to the hype (beta)
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That's a lot of bones for a launcher. How long does the market allow for refunds? I have a lot of skepticism for these over hyped apps.
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I have used all the launchers adw, launcher pro, and so on. My opinion is, that this is above all of them. I wasn't able to use the beta version, and I know people had some complaints about it. I am currently using Simply Galaxy 2.7.2 w/ speedbooster rom and I am seeing no lag at all. I've only had it for a few hours, I can get back to you after 24hr use if you would like.
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absolutely that would go a long way in affecting atleast my opinion
tho 15bucks is very steep
$15 + 15 minute return policy = fail.
I was a big fan of SPB Mobile Shell for WM6.x but compared to Launcher Pro or ADW EX it's really hard to dish out fifteen bucks to try something new.
Their pricing structure made sense on WM (lack of users, high prices), but on Android they have so many more potential customers.
I'm glad to give them my money if I like it and will use it, but 15 minutes is NOT enough time to tell...
I honestly don't see this application selling well for $15. A lot of the "widgets" are available for free, and a lot of the other stuff is eye candy. Who really cares about a 3D picture viewer or a 3D model of my home screen. And if this app wasn't $15, we probably wouldn't even be discussing it. It doesn't really bring anything to the table.
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$15 + 15 minute return policy = fail.
I was a big fan of SPB Mobile Shell for WM6.x but compared to Launcher Pro or ADW EX it's really hard to dish out fifteen bucks to try something new.
Their pricing structure made sense on WM (lack of users, high prices), but on Android they have so many more potential customers.
I'm glad to give them my money if I like it and will use it, but 15 minutes is NOT enough time to tell...
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I agree with you, I had the HTC HD 2 windows phone. And without spb that phone looked horrible. And the 15 minute return is definitely not enough time to try this out.
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I got past the price and downloaded the app off the market. I now think it offers enough value to justify it's price tag of $15. I'm in the minority on this, I know. It does things that other launchers simply can't. The widgets add a lot of value too IMO. I also believe the other market offerings are undervalued. People may have become somewhat spoiled / have unrealistic expectations as a result? It's been very smooth with very little lag for me so far. I have the HomeSmack app (from TeslaCoil) installed to easily switch between this and my previous launcher just in case I get home sick.
The interface is intuitive, well organized and high quality. You get what you pay for folks. If you want more of the same ol' stuff, don't buy it and support the status quo. I want his dev to keep delivering the awesome. While it doesn't work on tablets yet, when it does that will be even more incredible I'd expect. Something I've never seen anywhere else is that it move my other home screen shortcuts out of the way as I drag a single shortcut around that screen so that I can just drop it in to it's new location. Makes organization much easier.
They might do better to offer a free base and then offer add-on feature packages ($5, $10, etc) via the in-app purchasing that's available now. What say you?
If anyone has any questions, I can try to answer them. I'd like to see the launcher succeed and continue to be updated, so I voted with my wallet. We'll see how it plays out.
For those interested, here's the PDF manual for it...
http://www.spb.com/uploads/user_manuals/SPB_TV_user_manual_Android.pdf
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I downloaded the app off the market and I think it offers enough value to justify it's price tag of $15. I'm in the minority on this, I know. It does things that other launchers simply can't. The widgets add a lot of value IMO. I have the HomeSmack app (from TeslaCoil) installed to easily switch between this and my previous launcher. It's been very smooth with very little lag for me so far.
Interface is intuitive, well organized and high quality. You get what you pay for folks. If you want more of the same ol' stuff, don't buy it. I want his dev to keep delivering the awesome. While it doesn't work on tablets yet, when it does that will be even more incredible I'd expect. Something I've never seen anywhere else is that it move my other home screen shortcuts out of the way as I drag a single shortcut around that screen so that I can just drop it in to it's new location. Makes organization much easier.
Might they do better to offer a free base and then offer add-on feature packages ($5, $10, etc) via the in-app purchasing that's available now? What say you...
If anyone has any questions, I can try to answer them. I'd like to see the launcher succeed and continue to be updated, so I voted with my wallet. We'll see how it plays out.
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I must disagree. I feel like its a bloated, featureless home replacement that is masked with a beautiful interface.
to ask for $15 for this app is absolutely ludacris. Remote desktop client apps charge $15. The quality/function of those apps justify the price. For a home replacement to ask for $15 just because it has nice widgets???? no way sir. Ill stick with my "same old" launcher any day.
It reminds me of Iphone marketing. It disguises lack of features with fancy cosmetics and appeals to people who will simply look at it and say "wow", and not question it any further than that.
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I must disagree. It reminds me of Iphone marketing. It disguises lack of features with fancy cosmetics and appeals to people who will simply look at it and say "wow", and not question it any further than that.
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I think I understand your point of view. However, I am not one of those people. Those who choose to think along those lines may be summarily dismissing a great app simply due to stereotypical classification. Beyond the interface there is functionality not yet seen before that I will personally benefit from. Is it as feature laden as established launchers that have been through multiple iterations? No. That's why I'm keeping my other launcher around. In time, it may be all I need. Once upon a time, Go Launcher (even though it's free) wasn't sufficient by itself. I'm glad I stuck with it though. I prefer to think that's if what can be done for free, imagine what can be done commercially. However, I won't begrudge the dev for any expectations I have of it's potential if the reality ends up different.
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I think I understand your point of view. However, I am not one of those people. Those who choose to think along those lines may be summarily dismissing a great app simply due to stereotypical classification. Beyond the interface there is functionality not yet seen before that I will personally benefit from. Is it as feature laden as established launchers that have been through multiple iterations? No. That's why I'm keeping my other launcher around. In time, it may be all I need. Once upon a time, Go Launcher (even though it's free) wasn't sufficient by itself. I'm glad I stuck with it though. I prefer to think that's if what can be done for free, imagine what can be done commercially. However, I won't begrudge the dev for any expectations I have of it's potential if the reality ends up different.
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sorry, didnt mean to sound so smug. let me better explain my mindset (IMHO ALERT!!!!):
its not even a bad app. however, when you charge $15 you are going to raise 110% more eyebrows then if you were to charge $5. the thing that is bothering me so much is the price. If it was $5, i would not discourage people. like when you buy a $15 app, before hand youre supposed to be like "$15???!!! this thing BETTER be good!" then you download open open it and say, "HOLY ****!! this IS good!!"....that definitely didnt happen for me, there was no wow factor. i wasnt sold by all the bells and whistles.
regardless of the few unique features, i think a $15 asking price is steeper than everest. especially since while it offers a few new things, it also lacks many uselful and common things.
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Regardless of the few unique features it offers, it also lacks many uselful and common things.
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Agreed. It can't stand alone just yet. I look forward to the day it can. Right now, I intend to exploit it's new features to augment the missing features of Go Launcher.
I like it, I would just like integration of facebook and twitter widgets; something similar to launcher pro plus widgets.
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spb 5.0
i have had the beta running on my stock rooted vibrant for 3 weeks now and love it its lightning fast and visually stunning i wont drop 15 bucks for this until its tweaked a little more like landscape support -live wallpapers i used spb on my touch pro 2 and remember it being better than this it had landscape support on wm 6.1 but not android come on spb ur alot smarter than that imho
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I am not a mod, so I would like to just give you some friendly advice. Change your sig to something more family friendly. See XDA implemented this thing called 'Operation Iron Fist' where they are not going to tolerate certain things anymore and offensive and sexually explicit language is one of them. They feel like this is a family site and should be welcoming to people of all ages.
I have used Ahome. In fact I have probably used every home replacement app out there, but I always go back to ADW EX. It is the best to me and it and Launcher Pro or by far the most popular home replacement apps out because of how feature rich they are.
ok, my bad, I will update the sig
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ok, my bad, I will update the sig
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You did a good thing bro. Thanks for not taking what I said the wrong way. I just didn't want to see you get a temp ban or warning for it.
Anyway, have you tried ADW or Launcher Pro? If you aren't going to buy the pro version of ADW, Launcher Pro is probably better, but the latest update of ADW has made it real nice and if you have a Honeycomb Tablet by chance it now compatible with it and runs silky smooth and the options are unbelievable.
I have tried the major three, adw, lp, and go. I like go the best, I just happened across ahome on the market and havent heard anyone talk about it. I tried it out and it is not that great compared to the other ones. I cant believe they charge for it because it does not have that many options to customize like the others.
I took what you said fine, I forget myself sometimes. I have owned apple products in the past, but their recent lawsuits and whining has turned me off to them. They are suing everyone now I think. Suprised they havent sued xda for something stupid too.
I usually stick with stock launcher here but everytime I switch to LP or ADW it f's up my wallpaper resolution causing it to zoom way in on the current one.
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I applaud the both of you. This could of easily turned into a flame/trolling war. Thank you both for setting an adult example here.
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Thank you. I am here to learn new things and make new friends not troll or net fight. I'm too old for all of that.
I was on the Market and I came across this new launcher. The video is unreal. The price is crazy @$17, especially with a number of the functions in the video not working at the moment. I just wanted to see if anyone was willing to give this a try, and if they were able to get it to work on the Atrix. I sent the dev an e-mail to ask if it is compatible. I have read that there are numerous amounts of FCs associated with this launcher.
At any rate, take a look at this video.
Here is a link to the Android Market --> TSF Shell in the Android Market
I honestly think it looks hideous. Nothing special just a different way of switching screens and a couple of widgets.
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Who the hell is going to pay $17 for a launcher?
The launcher loads ok but gives fcs along the way, motion is VERY smooth! Music and memo widgets market says are not compatible. It has great potential but indeed the price will hold most ppl back from buying it.
this looks like it might be from the guys who made bumptop for the windows desktop
here is the youtube link to the desktop software
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqcmPJ-oVL0
I had a hard time giving $15 for shell, but i did, I'm not giving that much for a launcher ever again! Just not worth it compared to the excellent cheaper launchers and the free launchers that are out there.
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Haha 17$? For a launcher? What are you smoking?
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To expensive to buy, IMO..I don't know why the sell that too expensive, an people may think: "well is their app, they may ask whatever they want" but for example SPB Shell, $15 and a 100,000 downloads, if they drop their price to $5 they may need to sell 3 times to reach their goal, but for a luncher like that they may do it quickly because lots of users wants to give a try.
$17 dollars? No way.
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I can not see the tsf shell in the market... anyone with Atrix can see it?
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I can not see the tsf shell in the market... anyone with Atrix can see it?
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I was just able to do a search on my Atrix in the Market for TSF Shell, and it brought it up.
I'm on AT&T in the U.S.
17$ for a launcher? No thanks. You can keep it.
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I was just able to do a search on my Atrix in the Market for TSF Shell, and it brought it up.
I'm on AT&T in the U.S.
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Maybe the problem is that i'm on "the darkside"...
This launcher is absolutely freaking amazing!
It is the first launcher ever for Android, and I am not exaggerating, that has iPhone kind of smoothness.
The irony is that this launcher has all those fancy 3D transitions and animations and it's still absolutely perfectly silky smooth throughout.
While simple basic launchers like ADW or LP still get laggy around the edges at times.
This just goes to show that we don't need epic new quad core hardware for our phones, we need devs that know how to optimize for the hardware we already have.
Tegra 2 is more than enough to run anything currently on Android without issues.
Kudos to the devs for the professionalism and their hard work. This really is an amazing smoothest-ever launcher.
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this looks like it might be from the guys who made bumptop for the windows desktop
here is the youtube link to the desktop software
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I was thinking literally the exact same thing. I guess this isnt Google, but didnt Google buy or absorb bumptop?
Second paragraph http://bumptop.com/
So far, I have had 0 problems with this launcher. I'd recommend this, but the price is a little expensive. This is just my opinion, and to each their own.
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So far, I have had 0 problems with this launcher. I'd recommend this, but the price is a little expensive. This is just my opinion, and to each their own.
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agree on both points. im happy w/it tho.
i'm sticking with adw pro. no probs at all.
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actually... i looked into it more and i'm quite intrigued. price is too steep though.
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So far, I have had 0 problems with this launcher. I'd recommend this, but the price is a little expensive. This is just my opinion, and to each their own.
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I've tryed it for the past 2 days, no problems at all with the launcher, is beautiful and really fast, but it slows a little all the rest of the apps...
p.s. And i hate the floating icons, i prefer to have a grid...
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I've tryed it for the past 2 days, no problems at all with the launcher, is beautiful and really fast, but it slows a little all the rest of the apps...
p.s. And i hate the floating icons, i prefer to have a grid...
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Indeed. That was one of the things that bugged me. OCD got the best of me on that. I spent a good 10 minutes straightening my screen up last night.
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Indeed. That was one of the things that bugged me. OCD got the best of me on that. I spent a good 10 minutes straightening my screen up last night.
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Can't you select the icons you want arranged and create a grid...in the video it looks like you can resize a box with your icons in it.
I never see anyone else with it. Always iPhones and bbrys....
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I never see anyone else with it. Always iPhones and bbrys....
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because it's new, and there's a lot of iphone sheeps.
So true I only seen one person and that was in the att store
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I never see anyone else with it. Always iPhones and bbrys....
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I think it is because everyone is scared of its size. I have one and love it. Stopped traveling with my tablet cause I got this. I admit it is big but not so big as to not be able to fit in my pocket. Everyone says "Oh you got that huge Android Phone." and then ask if they can see it. Once it is in their hands they say that it feels good in their hand and then they like it. It seems that the talk on the blogs and reviews about it being too big has keep a lot of people from even looking at it even though my contacts at ATT say it is flying out the stores.
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Att and Samsung are advertising pretty hard for it. I think once people realize how portable it really is, they will consider it. I still get a few jeers from my friends, followed by them admitting it is a pretty sweet device.
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I wonder what the percentages of the below are, when discussing iPhone users:
1. Aware that AT&T allows them to upgrade at 18 months
2. Aware that having an iPhone no longer makes you "cool"
3. Are of the age where they can buy the phone on their own without parental involvement
4. Are aware of what they are lacking with the iPhone
5. Care that their iOS device is at best outdated
Regarding number 3 - I knew the iPhone lost its caché when I was at the movies and saw an eleven-year-old (!) with one. At that time I'd already jumped to Android but my wife still had her iPhone 3G and wanted an iPhone 4. I gave her a good ribbing about wanting a phone that even kids have nowadays.
I remember her needing a new phone and pay through the nose for the original RAZR., so the idea was not lost on her - I think she'll go android on our next upgrade date - she's already entertaining it.
Her trepidation stems from her unfamiliarity with the Android interface - I assure her that she can make it whatever she wants, and even recently showed her a video of Espier launcher; I think that sealed the deal, so come August she might have a better (but not bigger!) phone than I have.
I think cause its still new and its a bit over priced.
Definitely because it's just a new device. The Streak was the first mainstream "phablet", but due to a lack of advertising and outdated software, it never took off for anybody that wasn't familiar with the dev work for it. I think the trend set by this phone combined with good software, great specs, and heavy advertisement by Samsung will make the Note line of phones very popular in the future.
The Note already is selling well, as the ATT store I bought mine from only had one white and no blue ones left when I bought mine...lucky me I wanted white. And I live in Northern Minnesota, which you could say is less tech savvy than a lot of places in the US. Goes to show Samsung has a potential gold mine on their hands if they push this market. Right now, you could say it's a niche device, but I think it's going to turn into a mainstream class of devices.
Everybody who has asked me about my phone is absolutely stunned by it. First, they laugh at its size and ask what the hell it is. Then I tell them it's the Galaxy Note, and explain some things about it, highlighting the 720p screen and SPen. They are impressed by that, but then ask, how the hell do you fit it in your pocket or carry it?! If I know them, I invite them to put it in their pocket and feel the size. They are wowed by how big they screen is, yet how portable and pocketable it really is. By the time I am a done showing them everything, their opinion is completely changed, and they admit it's an awesome device. The only people who say they wouldn't want it themselves are Apple loyalists, who argue that their integration and iCloud make it so they could never use anything but an iPhone. I tell those people that they're being ignorant, because you can do basically ask if that just as well, if not better with Android and Google apps. Even still, they admit if they weren't an iPhone/MacBook user, they would like the Note. I have not seem a single person who dislikes this phone so far.
Just show off your device every chance you get, and eventually people will realize how amazing devices like this really are, and realize their full potential.
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You need to find guys that think the galaxy s 2 was too small. And the note....just too big. Not comfy to talk on.
All my friends want and have taken a picture with them holding my phone to their head. All of them are doctors too lol. Mix of iPhone and Droid users though.
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I have seen one lady with it and yesterday when exchanging mine. One of the best buy employees had a white one. He said he loved the phone.
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The size of this phone freaks people out at first. I remember after getting this phone and taking it with me to work, every student I had was drawn to it like they didn't know what to think. It was comical to watch them all take turns seeing if it would fit in their pocket.
Despite the initial skepticism that they would like a phone this size, a vast majority of the students after messing with it for a second really liked it.
Same thing happened at the bi-monthly staff meeting. It was even funnier than the students...watching a bunch of adults playing pass the phone down the line game. Several of the teachers have either now went out and got this phone or are going to use it as their next upgrade.
I will say that I kinda enjoy having a phone that's not super common
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I have seen two others both in the airports while traveling. Most people who notice my phone have seen the ads in one form or another. They know you can write on it!
EDIT: I send this original message while at my son's karate practice. I was sitting there and this very attractive Asian lady comes up and asks me if that I the Galaxy Note. I later found out she is Korean and loves Samsung and Android. She has a Vibrant on T mobile and say she heard they just hacked the GNote for T mobile...I was blown away at this girls knowledge of phones etc. Of course I let her play with my phone!
I then told her she should get a pink GNote and she googles it and you would have thought I was her hero...it was pretty wild how excited she got about a pink GNote although I do not believe it is out yet.
Pretty cool story regarding a simple ole phone!
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I've only seen one other person, I was in line at a hibachi grill and while waiting for food the guy beside me pulled out his note, was using the flip-open battery cover case that AT&T has. We chatted for a minute or so while waiting for food, he came from the Pre and was disappointed how WebOS turned out, and said it took him a few days to get used to the size, he's still learning Android, asked me about a few things like do things "crash" all the time, etc, told him I have yet to see a single crash out of mine.
Cool thing was, when he first pulled it out I didn't say anything because he was getting into his calendar and looking up some events, added an event between them to someone and sent off the invite. He was getting along pretty good, and didn't want to disturb him while he was doing work.
Besides myself, I know of 3 other guys where I work with one plus I've ran into a couple other people with one at restaurants. The guy at the local AT&T told me they sold out the first day, so there should be several of them around here.
I have yet to see one in the wild. But any pol look at mine just like you guys shared. I love the attention from the girls looking at it.
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The people who i know that want one just got Gnex a few months ago so they can't. They love checking out my phone though.
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I like to pretend that I don't know about the spen and pull it out a half inch to show off the sweet antenna.
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too many sheeple that think that because everyone else has one, they have to have one to "stay cool".
I've always considered myself an INDIVIDUAL. I don't buy things based on what everyone else does. Almost to a fault, I'll go the opposite direction of "trendy" things. Hell, I still (when I can find them) wear the same style Nike White with red "swoosh" leather Cortez shoes (the ones like from back to the future). I've worn them since 1976....why...BECAUSE THEY ARE D*MN COMFORTABLE. Same thing with how I dress, my opinions etc. If you don't like it, tough, it's how I am. I got a Dell streak in Oct 2010 because I thought a 5" screen would be a benefit to me, and I was right, too bad Dell & at&t didn't market it. When I heard Sammy would have one, couldn't wait to get it. And I'm right, it's PERFECT for me. The sheeple can squint at their TINY screens all they want and look cool, at least my eyes don't have to squint.
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Since we all seen a bunch a review threads floating around. I'm going to provide links to some of the current reviews.
AndroidCentral- http://www.androidcentral.com/sprint-htc-evo-4g-lte-review
The Verge- http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/11/3012990/htc-evo-4g-lte-review
Phone Arena- http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/HTC-EVO-4G-LTE-Review_id3030
Engadget- http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/10/htc-evo-4g-lte-for-sprint-review/
laptopmag http://www.laptopmag.com/review/smartphone/htc_evo_4glte_sprint.aspx
Slashgear- http://www.slashgear.com/htc-evo-4g-lte-review-11227839/
PCWorld- http://www.pcworld.com/article/255517/htc_evo_4g_lte_review_gorgeous_but_no_lte_for_now.html
PhoneDog- http://www.phonedog.com/videos/htc-e...review-part-1/
http://www.phonedog.com/videos/htc-e...review-part-2/
Pocketlint- http://www.pocket-lint.com/review/5870/htc-evo-4g-lte-phone-review
Android Police- http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...view-sometimes-the-ugly-ones-try-the-hardest/
BGR- http://www.bgr.com/2012/05/16/htc-evo-4g-lte-review-sprint-android/
GSMARENA http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_evo_4g_lte-review-762.php
PhoneScoop- http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=10427
Pocketnow- http://pocketnow.com/2012/05/22/sprint-htc-evo-4g-lte-review/
TechRadar- http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/htc-evo-4g-lte-1081371/review
GoodandEvo- http://www.goodandevo.net/2012/05/review-htc-evo-4g-lte-for-sprint.html#more
I'll add androidcentral and anandtech if and when they release it.
After reading some of these reviews I think I just need to wait until Anandtech's. Engadget's review was pitiful.
NICE! Glad to see someone do this!
might just Stick this up there temp for the time being and funnel all others in here if they pop up for a month or so till the review craze is over...
Just have to keep the OP updated is all.
Here is a link to Android Police's Review - > http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...view-sometimes-the-ugly-ones-try-the-hardest/
Gotta love reviews and the fact that they really are just opinions of the person reviewing it. It's an interesting read nonetheless. Couple of things I take out of it;
1. Just like everyone else including most of us, we all liked the look of the One X and he really hates that Sprint and HTC deviated from that. Especially the top plastic cover. Personally spends too much time complaining about the design decisions.
2. He also really likes stock Android and hates Sense. Again shares some of the common complaints such as the recent apps menu being different than stock and the software menu button. Also interestingly complains about bloatware but realistically there is only one app that should be considered bloatware and thats Sprint Zone. Every other app he mentions comes stock on every other HTC phone. And lets face it every carrier uses their own visual voicemail and hotspot apps, the latter being to have control over tethering. Also call me crazy but he complains about Sense not being landscape but I have landscape Sense running a 4.0 rom and I'm pretty sure that was one of the added features to 4.0.
Either way everything is subjective and it makes for an interesting read as long as you objectively respect he is entitled to his opinion and it is in fact that his opinion. For me it flirts close to the line of knitpicking each and everything that goes against what the reviewer prefers and is accustomed to.
Cordy said:
Here is a link to Android Police's Review - > http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...view-sometimes-the-ugly-ones-try-the-hardest/
Gotta love reviews and the fact that they really are just opinions of the person reviewing it. It's an interesting read nonetheless. Couple of things I take out of it;
1. Just like everyone else including most of us, we all liked the look of the One X and he really hates that Sprint and HTC deviated from that. Especially the top plastic cover. Personally spends too much time complaining about the design decisions.
2. He also really likes stock Android and hates Sense. Again shares some of the common complaints such as the recent apps menu being different than stock and the software menu button. Also interestingly complains about bloatware but realistically there is only one app that should be considered bloatware and thats Sprint Zone. Every other app he mentions comes stock on every other HTC phone. And lets face it every carrier uses their own visual voicemail and hotspot apps, the latter being to have control over tethering.
Either way everything is subjective and it makes for an interesting read as long as you objectively respect he is entitled to his opinion and it is in fact that his opinion. For me it flirts close to the line of knitpicking each and everything that goes against what the reviewer prefers and is accustomed to.
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Thanks man added the link to the op. Which would spark a very noob question. What does OP stand for?
Most the reviews I seen thought sense was either ok or just terrible. Phil from androidcentral seem to be one of the few that actually liked it over stock android. Me personally I haven't use sense 4 yet but I'm impatiently waiting.
I'll try to keep the OP is up to date as I can which shouldn't be hard considering I'm graduating High School Friday. So I have nothing but time until August.
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Thanks man added the link to the op. Which would spark a very noob question. What does OP stand for?
Most the reviews I seen thought sense was either ok or just terrible. Phil from androidcentral seem to be one of the few that actually liked it over stock android. Me personally I haven't use sense 4 yet but I'm impatiently waiting.
I'll try to keep the OP is up to date as I can which shouldn't be hard considering I'm graduating High School Friday. So I have nothing but time until August.
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OP stands for Original Post(er).
Yeah most reviewers dislike Sense compared to Stock however even the most anti Sense reviewers have stated that Sense 4 is a lot better than previous iterations and end up enjoying it even if they aren't crazy about it. I know we all have our personal preferences but facts are the only true Stock phone is a Nexus phone. Every manufacturer puts a skin on their phone. It's just something people will need to accept. So depending on which skin you like the most you should choose your phone accordingly. If you like stock buy a Nexus. It's easy for these reviewers to complain though cause they get these phones handed to them rather than going out and buying them in most cases.
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Added BGR and Pocketlint for the hell of it.
Pocketlint really didnt review much.
Cordy said:
Here is a link to Android Police's Review - > http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...view-sometimes-the-ugly-ones-try-the-hardest/
Gotta love reviews and the fact that they really are just opinions of the person reviewing it. It's an interesting read nonetheless. Couple of things I take out of it;
1. Just like everyone else including most of us, we all liked the look of the One X and he really hates that Sprint and HTC deviated from that. Especially the top plastic cover. Personally spends too much time complaining about the design decisions.
2. He also really likes stock Android and hates Sense. Again shares some of the common complaints such as the recent apps menu being different than stock and the software menu button. Also interestingly complains about bloatware but realistically there is only one app that should be considered bloatware and thats Sprint Zone. Every other app he mentions comes stock on every other HTC phone. And lets face it every carrier uses their own visual voicemail and hotspot apps, the latter being to have control over tethering. Also call me crazy but he complains about Sense not being landscape but I have landscape Sense running a 4.0 rom and I'm pretty sure that was one of the added features to 4.0.
Either way everything is subjective and it makes for an interesting read as long as you objectively respect he is entitled to his opinion and it is in fact that his opinion. For me it flirts close to the line of knitpicking each and everything that goes against what the reviewer prefers and is accustomed to.
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Well All I can say from my memory about that review is that who the F is going to be watching the back cover, Most people don't go around showing their phones from the back. His biggest gripe about the back is moot since the phone will probably be in a case, or mainly viewed from the "FRONT". ROFL what a joke review.
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Well All I can say from my memory about that review is that who the F is going to be watching the back cover, Most people don't go around showing their phones from the back. His biggest gripe about the back is moot since the phone will probably be in a case, or mainly viewed from the "FRONT". ROFL what a joke review.
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That's true but some people have different needs than others so if his is having a fashionable phone then you got to respect that
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GSM arena's review is out:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_evo_4g_lte-review-762.php
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A review that actually doesn't hold the EVO 4G LTE at fault for the shortcomings of the Sprint network.
The HTC Evo 4G LTE is undoubtedly the best-spec'd smartphone currently on offer in the United States. The flagship handset offers all the latest smartphone tech in a neat, well-built package.
There has rarely been an easier smartphone to recommend in the United States. HTC and Sprint have created a package that's incredibly hard to resist, and the purchase of which you are extremely unlikely to regret. We actually feel sorry that HTC didn't choose this design for the internationally available One XL, instead of the AT&T version.
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GSM arena's review is out:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_evo_4g_lte-review-762.php
A review that actually doesn't hold the EVO 4G LTE at fault for the shortcomings of the Sprint network.
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It was a nice detailed review.
That is the biggest knock on the evo in the reviews that it didn't have a 4g network.
You can't fault the HTC for that. Now customs need to stop bullshiting and let it be release.
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Nice review, but they call the phone a One X at least twice that I saw, haha. Can't wait to see how great the battery life really is!
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There's a pretty in depth review on phonescoop too.
http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=10427
I'm bothered by the comments under the sound section. Sure I use the phone for data, but i use it just as much for calls (using the ear piece). Will have to wait for some demo phones at stores before truly committing to the purchase.
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There's a pretty in depth review on phonescoop too.
http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=10427
I'm bothered by the comments under the sound section. Sure I use the phone for data, but i use it just as much for calls (using the ear piece). Will have to wait for some demo phones at stores before truly committing to the purchase.
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Most reviewers have said the sound was good enough for calls. Nothing spectacular but good nonetheless
I played with a GN at a sprint store the other day. Thought the volume was very loud and clear on a call to 611. Phonescoop's review of that phone also finds the sound quality lacking. I will definitely have to test the thing out before trading in my old evo. I expect the sound quality to be at least as loud/clear (running cm7 with the audio boosted kernel).
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I played with a GN at a sprint store the other day. Thought the volume was very loud and clear on a call to 611. Phonescoop's review of that phone also finds the sound quality lacking. I will definitely have to test the thing out before trading in my old evo. I expect the sound quality to be at least as loud/clear (running cm7 with the audio boosted kernel).
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I think some people are to big of audiofiles and want perfect sound out of a cellphone lol as long as its loud n doesn't sound like a half blown speaker or something I'm happy lol want better sound get a BT
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Some of the reviewers that bash Sprint seem to be biased against Sprint. The phone should be evaluated not the network that it arrives on. Yes, a note should be made about network performance, but if the phone is a 10 dock .5-1.0 for that issue instead of going off in tangents about it just list it as a con!
IMHO the nay sayer's for Sprint will be jumping ship to come aboard when NV starts to launch on Sprint by months end.
It's amazing how these professional reviewers try so hard to find fault with android phones, yet fall over themselves praising the iPhone.
This is the phone they should have released globally.
Pocketnow and Techradar review is up.
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Some of the reviewers that bash Sprint seem to be biased against Sprint. The phone should be evaluated not the network that it arrives on. Yes, a note should be made about network performance, but if the phone is a 10 dock .5-1.0 for that issue instead of going off in tangents about it just list it as a con!
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I find this to be an extremely accurate statement.
When I see a review for a phone all I care about is the phone, not the network the phone is on. I'm aware of the networks of each carrier and I am aware of the pros/cons of each.
For what it's worth I spend a majority of the time on Wi-Fi networks and get great network reliability.
As a preface, I want to state I like AOSP and have always appreciated choices with Android. The fact we have choices and options with Android has always been the biggest draw for me with this OS. Generally speaking, I've always felt AOSP always gave the best experience with Android and for the most part, I've always thought skins crippled the potential of most skinned Android phones. I'm somewhat shocked to state that I am finding that I now prefer TouchWiz over AOSP. I really can't imagine using AOSP with this device. First of all, unless our fine dev's can find a way to incorporate some of the features and functionality we enjoy with this device in AOSP, I can't see the need to use AOSP. Secondly, AOSP has usually equated to better performance with a device over the historically bogged down skins. This really isn't the case with this device.
So, I'm finding myself in uncharted territory here. It seems like, for me at least, there's finally no need for AOSP on this device. Anybody else feel the same way?
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I agree with you man, Touchwiz/S-Pen functionality is great and this phone is amazing. Plus my battery lasts with 6+ hours of screen on time.
aosp will shine when the device quits recieving carrier updates....i do agree that touchwiz is awsome on this device...same with the s3.
Things I like about TouchWiz:
Notification toggles / brightness control
"Clear All" in recent apps
Multi Window feature
S Pen functionality (mainly hovering, screenshot taking and snipping)
Water sounds/lockscreen (idc what people say, I enjoy the sounds)
You stated that TouchWiz doesn't bog this device down like other skins do to other phones, while I agree I think that it's mainly because of how much power this phone packs (quad core processor coupled with 2GB RAM), not that TouchWiz is heavily optimized, I.e. I think stock AOSP would have a lighter footprint than TouchWiz, but this is mainly due to added functionality in TW.
Now, if someone could incorporate these features of TouchWiz Into AOKP, that's a truly magnificent ROM bordering on perfect.
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I completely agree. I came from my s3 and took touchwiz off the 2nd day I got the phone and went to aosp. I love the whole look of it. When the note 2 came and I realized we would be losing features such as the spen which is huge for me and I use daily. To me its not worth it to lose the features. Right now im running beanstown build 3 and couldn't he happier. I have features that I wasnt able to have because they are native to touchwiz. I prefer the ics blue icons in the statusbar and a black statusbar and I have all that. I believe that im where I want to be as of right now with my phone, although im always willing to flash new things
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I never had a problem with manufacturer skins.
People said they slowed down the device, blah blah blah.
I didn't notice any performance issues using blur, tw, or sense.
I think a lot of that had to do with people following the masses.
I feel the same way about those who complain about the verizon logo on the home button, and the wifi notification in the pulldown menu.
Some people have a difficult time accepting change, others are just sheep.
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I never had a problem with manufacturer skins.
People said they slowed down the device, blah blah blah.
I didn't notice any performance issues using blur, tw, or sense.
I think a lot of that had to do with people following the masses.
I feel the same way about those who complain about the verizon logo on the home button, and the wifi notification in the pulldown menu.
Some people have a difficult time accepting change, others are just sheep.
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I can't speak to Blur or Sense, but I did notice a big difference in battery performance and UI fluidity on my Fascinate when going to AOSP. I had similar experiences with my DROID Charge.
I do agree with you regarding the Verizon logo and some of the other hangups people complain about especially some of the minor things with the version of TouchWiz we are using currently.
I also agree that the draw of AOSP is somewhat based upon following the masses; however, as a person who operated soley on AOSP for a year with a Nexus, AOSP does have its strengths and its place. It was a good experience for me, and I understand this draw. That being said, TouchWiz has its draw too, and this thread was about being pleased that it does.
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Nope. Still hate touchwiz, I just hate it less then I used to and way less then Sense. I need AOSP asap.
th0r615 said:
Nope. Still hate touchwiz, I just hate it less then I used to and way less then Sense. I need AOSP asap.
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we have aosp...3 variants to be exact.
pool_shark said:
I never had a problem with manufacturer skins.
People said they slowed down the device, blah blah blah.
I didn't notice any performance issues using blur, tw, or sense.
I think a lot of that had to do with people following the masses.
I feel the same way about those who complain about the verizon logo on the home button, and the wifi notification in the pulldown menu.
Some people have a difficult time accepting change, others are just sheep.
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Accepting change?? Really? So you like how Verizon has crippled our phone that NONE of the other variants had problems with? You like having a nagging notification in your pulldown and the status bar telling you to turn on wifi when we are paying for data? And lastly, the Verizon logo is not that bad but your telling me that you actually like to be like a city bus is... A poster-board & advertising for Verizon whom which we already pay enough money to each and every year...? I for one am NOT a walking billboard and yes, I did cover the home button with a sleek carbon fiber sticker to match my Ringke slim black case that covers the other part of their billboard. I don't think that's being a "sheep", like you say, but it is freedom from letting a company tell you how your device HAS to look if you want to be on their network... If you have flashed a custom rom then you know that most of those things are gone now and Hallelujah!! If we let companies "own" us then soon we will be required to wear Verizon t-shirts when we want to use our phones! LOL
As far as ASOP... I have a Nexus 4 for that so you won't see AOSP on this beast!
I will never go full on AOSP with this phone, unless by some magical developer craziness they are able to make the S Pen work 100% the same as it does now on TouchWiz ROM's.
Performance:
The phone has such an insane engine under the hood that any perceived performance improvements going from TouchWiz to AOSP would be non-existent. It's just that powerful that even if the TouchWiz UI was "bogging it down" then we couldn't tell the difference since it's already vsync capped and running beautifully.
Bloat:
Jelly'Beans' is already trimmed down greatly. I came from a Thunderbolt where stock Sense software packages were about 400-500MB. CyanogenMod 7.2 weighed in at a measly 90MB. This was great and all, and it shows how much debloated AOSP is vs OEM firmware, but Jelly'Beans' is already at 50% debloat over the stock firmware. 1,600MB vs 800MB. That's amazing. And it somehow still retains the awesome functionality we demand from this device.
Appearance:
Some people can't stand the look of OEM skins, they want that pure Android look and feel. Well here's what a TouchWiz ROM can look like with the right setup:
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I don't know about you guys, but that looks pretty freaking AOSP Android 4.1.1 to me. And I'm happy with it.
At the end of the day everyone's different. Some people don't even care that this phone has an S Pen, they never use. That's fine and dandy. If they don't use it then it doesn't hurt to use AOSP ROM's, as another poster above said you will be able to keep the phone up to date long past when the carrier's think it shouldn't be updated anymore. And I foresee this phone lasting a looooong time on AOSP.
Android is an amazing thing. We should be happy we even have these options. But for me personally, and many others, there's just no reason to butcher this phone and lose all that functionality. It does it all right from the start.
Android is about choices, so yes, there is a need for AOSP. I'm sure once we get a stable build of CM, many more devs will start to support this device. CM is usually the first rom on every device and most of the time, the development won't take off until then.
Plus, we gotta remember that it is the Holiday season and the unlock is only a few weeks old. Most devs probably won't be working on their roms so we just gotta be patient.
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I don't think it is appropriate to say people prefer AOSP simply because they are going along with popular opinion. Having owned and rooted many Android phones, it was a fact (until very recently) that phones with manufacturer skins ran slower/less efficiently than AOSP. I believe this is why most people prefer AOSP, because from past experience they have seen how much better it runs on their phones.
However, as technology has advanced so has the performance of phones even with manufacrurer skins. So is AOSP necessary the way it used to be? No, I think not. But as has been stated, Android is all about options/choice. Some prefer the simple look and slimmed down style to AOSP and some like the look/features of manufacturer skins. To each his own.
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I never had a problem with manufacturer skins.
People said they slowed down the device, blah blah blah.
I didn't notice any performance issues using blur, tw, or sense.
I think a lot of that had to do with people following the masses.
I feel the same way about those who complain about the verizon logo on the home button, and the wifi notification in the pulldown menu.
Some people have a difficult time accepting change, others are just sheep.
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youre nuts, droid x with blur was hideous.
I'm also in the new situation of actually not minding TW and liking the integration of the s-pen. I'm still looking forward to trying out the AOSP ROM's when they're a little more polished since I think I'll always prefer AOSP and I don't use the s-pen/TW functionality THAT often.
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Accepting change?? Really? So you like how Verizon has crippled our phone that NONE of the other variants had problems with? You like having a nagging notification in your pulldown and the status bar telling you to turn on wifi when we are paying for data? And lastly, the Verizon logo is not that bad but your telling me that you actually like to be like a city bus is... A poster-board & advertising for Verizon whom which we already pay enough money to each and every year...? I for one am NOT a walking billboard and yes, I did cover the home button with a sleek carbon fiber sticker to match my Ringke slim black case
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We didn't even get the first note and that was a bummer at the time. My bootloader is unlocked, is yours? You can kill the Wifi notification process. The Verizon logo on the front matches every other Verizon phone I've had. The rest is just software that can can be fixed. The big advantage this phone has over all the other variants is that it we ill work on all the other carriers.
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I'm also in the new situation of actually not minding TW and liking the integration of the s-pen. I'm still looking forward to trying out the AOSP ROM's when they're a little more polished since I think I'll always prefer AOSP and I don't use the s-pen/TW functionality THAT often.
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Even when they do come out with nice polished aosp roms you'll be able to use apps like gmd spen control. It gives you all the functions of the spen basically. I use it now and I still have a touchwiz rom
Doin' big thangs from my Note Deuce
I'll admit that tw is better opp on this phone than on my wife's stratosphere but I still don't really like it. The big one for me is paranoid androids custom DPI per app. The whole reason I got this phone was to have more room on the screen for more info not just to have the large print edition of android but changing the DPI for the whole ROM creates a few issues and pa fixes that. Those are the kind of things you only see with AOSP. Mind you Samsung beat them to the punch with multi-window.