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Hey everybody,
I decided to make a topic to show all the problem we have with the Folio 100 (maybe Toshiba gonne check)
10 Reasons to give back your own Folio 100 or don't buy it
1- The display on the Folio 100 is lowcost, you can found the same on clone phone in China ! poor quality, screen TN (not IPS, Amoled, Super LCD or other), The touchscreen on it can give you some trouble in the future
2-Toshiba don't support the Folio 100, the forum Folio 100 on the official website Toshiba was deleted !
3- When you have a problem with the Folio 100 is really complicate to bring a repair on it, Toshiba have a poor quality service for that
4- The price ! even though the Folio 100 look like cheaper, not really, when you know Apple give you a better stuff for 100 more, with a good support, offer to you a exchange if your iPad have a problem, etc... but i don't talk about all the stuff we have on Folio 100 (HDMI, USB, SDCARD, WEBCAM) <- this are useless if you can't use your Folio 100 ! actually Apple Win, Samsung Win with the Galaxy Tab, Dell Win with the Streak
5- The quality of the cover is so cheap !! you can broke so fast your Folio 100, the 4 tactile buttons is so anoying...
6- What the hell where is the good support of Android in here ?... many games are not compatible, the Toshiba Market place have more Wallpaper than Apps and Toshiba don't give any sources to help the customers
8- The Folio 200 is coming with a better screen, better support, honeycomb, better cover etc... have a sense to take the old Folio ?...
9- The charger, did you see how big the charger is it ?... bigger than the tablet and have some problem when you try to charge the Folio...
10- You need to do all by yourself if you want to make something good on it... the Folio 100 is a Puzzle made in Toshiba, but you don't have all the pieces of the Puzzle...
I'm sorry, but i use every something possible on it, i sent back my folio and i don't know if i go take a new one or wait for something else
But have some good idea on it, HDMI, USB, SDCARD, Mini USB etc... i feel uncomfortable when i see all that, because Toshiba have a good product but they release that too fast and like a prototype more than a final product
Now what offer we have ?
Wait the FOLIO 200 or XOOM or what ??...
Completely agree
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The only real big issue I see with the Folio 100 since I bought it months ago is the screen.
Not even the poor quality screen, but the fact that the touchscreen just is not responding on the lower part because Toshiba wasn't able to put all parts properly under the screen, so the screen is pulled out of the cover making the screen unresponsive.
Whenever screen isn't responding I have to press back the glass in the cover. That's absolutely crap. Every cheap China-Phone is built better !
Hardware wise it's ok. But that's because of Nvidia's Tegra2 Chip.
Whatever Toshiba did on the Folio is pure crap and I deeply regret that I thought Toshiba is a good quality company.... my fault.
Well anyway i decided to take another one
Why ?
Because i love the challenge, if i need to work to make this Folio 100 work better, i will.
Because of the Tegra 2 chip, USB, HDMI, SD Card, Webcam etc...
I still think all what i said before but actually i don't see any another tablet can give a lot of stuff for this price, i have this tablet and the cashback 70euros.
I don't want to wait for the Folio 200 (the reason is Toshiba don't support the old Folio and i don't support the next Folio)
I heard from a friend, the Folio 200 is Folio 100 with a better screen, new cover and more ram... but the rest, both use exactly the same source of Android.
I try to do my best to help the community Folio 100
I want to say something to Toshiba, Toshiba if you read this, please take care of your customers and give the best of your company, i know you can do better, give better sources for the Folio 100 and the possibility to exploit better this one with honeycomb, please do it...
We actually do the job that you should be doing
Toshiba should acknowledge they created a inferior product an should offer all folio 100 ownersa refund or give them a 200 with a major discount. They are neglecting their buyers and throwing away their name as a decent tech manufacturer. Shame on them!
ibila said:
Toshiba should acknowledge they created a inferior product an should offer all folio 100 ownersa refund or give them a 200 with a major discount. They are neglecting their buyers and throwing away their name as a decent tech manufacturer. Shame on them!
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I know they can do that, don't have that many Folio 100 sold, anyway i think Toshiba needs to make a major update for the Folio 100 and this one can run better, they need to give the source of the bootloader too.. etc to fix some problems.
The Folio 100 is still a Tegra 2 tablet and i still think, this can offer more than we have and the actual android we have can't exploit correctly the Folio 100, i was checking many stuff on the Folio 100 and apparently the Tegra 2 chip on it go faster than the XOOM ! the XOOM have a Tegra 2 chip undercloked and the Folio 100 no, we don't use the dualcore either and not really the GPU ! remember that
When i see Dexter make the Dextermod, i can imagine the Toshiba Folio Team make something strong and good
Toshiba don't really see the big picture!
It's not about loose some hundred or thousand of potential buyers, it's all about harming their reputation. Customers can handle some low specs of even some bugs, but build quality and support are points were reputation is hard to regained. It will affect their sales, and no just tablets, but all other products.
bastospn said:
Toshiba don't really see the big picture!
It's not about loose some hundred or thousand of potential buyers, it's all about harming their reputation. Customers can handle some low specs of even some bugs, but build quality and support are points were reputation is hard to regained. It will affect their sales, and no just tablets, but all other products.
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It's Toshiba make some stuff for Apple product and actually Toshiba have problem in Japan, i can understand this, it's difficult at this time to ask any help from Toshiba.
Anyway if everybody try to contact Toshiba and explain the problem we have and ask for a better support, they can help us.
You can read this on the website Toshiba
Due to the aftermath of the recent earthquake in Japan, we might take some time to respond to your inquiries.
We apologize for the inconvenience caused to you in this matter.
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Folio 100 is not really a bad product itself.
The only problems are the firmware and the lack of good applications in Toshiba Market.
Whe have probed that Folio can run most of the latest Android applications with good performace.
All that Toshiba have to do is to release a god firware and include better apps in its market.
If they can't do this for the Folio then they will not be able to do this for their next tablet.
But their real problem now is the earthquake...
gust wanted to see if anyone was going to return the gtab and wait a few weeks for the Acer? I'm leaning toward 150$ being worth better cameras, gingerbread,more memory, and a new piece of hardware.
-J
I sold mine today on ebay.... debating between getting a zoom and waiting for the transformer. I've come across some extra money so I wanna upgrade
I think I'm going to hand my GTab down to my wife and get me the Acer. I like the idea of the Honeycomb and GPS, and still get to keep a real USB port.
Not I. $250-300 is my max budget for a tablet right now. The Iconia or Transformer are nice, but I don't personally feel they offer anything more for that big of a jump in price. For $450 (Iconia) to $550 (Transformer with keyboard), you can get a more powerful laptop with better features.
I'll probably wait at least a generation or two before upgrading. Honeycomb isn't really revolutionary. The performance difference of the hardware under the hood is negligible when compared to the Gtab. And while I love Android, a small laptop for that price would be of more use to me.
There's still a lot of dust to settle over the next 6mo. to a year in the tablet market- you're going to see a *lot* of changes come down the line.
I saw an acer over at best buy. Very nice. I like the multimedia launcher. But I will not get rid of my gtab. Too much potential. Someday it will be the best. With so many people determined to make it better it will rise to the top.
Don't get me wrong. I had TF one. I would like to have Prime. BUT.
Is that really worth buying especially now when the price is so high?
What is really better in Prime? Tegra 3? Do we really need tegra 3? As far as I remember there were so few games that used Tegra 2. I could count them on 2 hands fingers.
So I ask. What do you think guys? Is it worth to switch TF to Prime? Is it really worth it?
What if Tegra 3 will end like Tegra 2 with only few apps behind?
The answer is yes. Also this tablet is not priced too high considering the specs it brings to the table. The apps, whether tegra3 optimized or not, will benefit from the extra horsepower. How is this priced so high? You get the worlds first quad core Android tablet, the best display of any tablet, ports like hdmi and micro SD card, and 32gb of ram for only $499. Compare to an iPad 2 with less specs and festures and same 32gb starting at $599. Already been said n proven to be best Android tablet out there. If You want something cheap, get the kindle fire. No other tablet comes close yet to specs n features at that $499 price range. Stop feeding into the negativity of some people/trolls trying to downplay tegra2 or tegra3 chipset. Regardless of what people say, tegra2 was a success. Brought the worlds first dual core phones. Now will do the dame with worlds first quad core tablet. And their chipset will be first to run ICS onna tablet.
Plus this is answered within several other similar threads in general section.
Also, same could be said for other platforms like IOS. Even less number of games/apps are optimized for new chipset of ipad2. As with any new tech. It will take time for developers to make software that fit accordingly. Now once quad core is out, all apps will be made optimized to dual core or quad core. Since majority of devices now will have either one of these. Another benefit of the tegra3 is the power saving capabilities. It has already be shown/proven through several reviewers to have best battery life of any android tablet. It's right there with iPad/ipad2 battery life. And this was in balanced mode. Put prime on powers acing mode and it will surpass the IOS battery life easily.
what kind of response are you expecting to get on the prime section of XDA?
of course everyone reading this board wants a prime.
It depends, if you have the original Transformer then the upgrade might not be worth it unless you plan to play a lot of 3D games for some reason. If you already have an iPad 2, then upgrade seems not important, unless you really want a keyboard dock that is better than what iPad has.
If you don't have a tablet or have an old one, then YES. It is worth it.
Imo no it's not priced too high. I have a Nook Color now and while it's great, I would like something with a little more power. Considering I paid $200 9 months ago for my NC and have used it for a thousand things I didn't think I'd ever use it for, I can definitively justify $500 for device I will use everyday
Ok, let me see...
1. Thinner, lighter, and better looking than old TF.
2. Better battery life by most accounts.
3. Quad-core for when you need it, a single low power core when you don't.
4. Tegra 3 is a reference GPU for ICS, enough said. I don't care if there is ever a single game written specifically for Tegra 3 - all I want is effortless UI, with no hiccups, and perfect video. That is IMHO iPad 2's single advantage, and I hope that TF Prime + ICS finally comes close.
The question should be asked - why are others charging just as much for old hardware? Suddenly that GT 10.1 for $499 with 16Gb looks very expensive...
this is a nerd site. made up of lots of nerds.
short answer, hell yes. buy it. buy 2.
no its not, its not worth buying, you should not get this.
DON'T GET IT!
Orion66 said:
Is that really worth buying especially now when the price is so high?
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That is a very subjective question that only you can answer. What is "really worth buying" to me may not be to you and vice versa.
You guys don't even consider the whole situation... He is asking whether it is worth it to switch from the original to the Prime.
Well considering that you can probably sell the Original+Dock for around 350 and buy the new one for 700+, that is a $350 difference. Then that is really a money issue. The Prime is a nice upgrade from the original. It's faster, lighter, thinner, and looks nicer. But the original is definitely still usable. The original is not obsolete, the Prime is just a premium. Now the question is whether you are willing to pay for this premium.
If you aren't unhappy with your TF right now you could always wait till later when more quad-core tablets come out. There will always be something new and exciting on the line.
You definitely do not need it. Don't buy it, as its terrible, and can I have your pre-order?
For me, the answer is a bit mixed. While I am really excited about the release of the Prime, yesterday, I cancelled my pre-orders from BestBuy and GameStop. I too, have a TF101. My thinking was that right now, if you were to sell your TF101 on eBay within the next week or so, you could get a decent price for it, ~$350-400 (with the dock). This would go a long way to paying for the upgrade. However, my Amazon pre-order was cancelled and I ended up pre-ordering at two different places on Dec 1st or 2nd. My concern was that I was basically at the back of the line for both of these pre-orders and I am flying back home for a couple of weeks around x-mas. I wasn't sure that I would get the tablet before flying out, I was pretty sure that I wouldn't get the dock before I got back, and I didn't want to have either sitting on my doorstep for any amount of time (just in case I wasn't able to change the shipping in time). This was compounded by the fact that I would have needed to sell the TF101 before getting the TF201 in my hands, which made me nervous.
I was sitting at the coffee shop yesterday, doing actual work on my TF101, without any issues, wondering if the upgrade was worth it right now. I decided that at this point in time, it would just be too much of a hassle. The TF101 is a great performer for a lot of tasks, and for my typical use, I have not run into a situation where I feel like I am really limited by the hardware. I think that I will probably upgrade once I can buy both the dock and keyboard, and probably the transleeve, on Amazon and get one day shipping on everything and be done with it. The pre-order situation on this one turned out to be too much of a hassle and I was not sure that I trusted that Asus would be able to deliver enough units to secure my late pre-order before flying out.
As far as why I actually wanted to upgrade, it's more powerful, thinner, lighter and smaller with a better screen and better battery life. It also supposedly handles the dock/charging situation a bit better than the current device, which is actually important to me. I would love to be able to see the screen better in the sunlight, and have more apps running in the background without seeing much of a slowdown. I would also love to show this off to my Apple loving friends as a thinner, lighter and more powerful tablet than the iPad 2.
Price does not seem high to me. $500 is the same price the original 32GB Transformer came out at. The difference is this time there is no 16GB $400 option. Sure there are other tablets that are deeply discounted, but they suck and nobody wants them.
Tegra 3 isn't just about video games. I don't really play that many games on my tablet to let them dictate my tablet or processor choice. But the Tegra 3 also has an improved GPU that will help me play back high def videos that the Tegra 2 was really bad at. If you are just streaming HD video, the Tegra 2 is still fine. But if you copy over your own AVI or MKV HD files, hopefully the Tegra 3 will be able to handle them better.
Another important aspect of the Transformer Prime is it's aluminum body. The original Transformer with it's plastic back gets warm in your hands. The palms start to sweat a little, then the tablet gets slippery to hold. The aluminum body of the Prime should stay cooler, prevent the palms from moistening and hold easier. Not to mention it's much thinner and lighter.
And the Transformer Prime is much better looking. I always found the brown Transformer kinda ugly.
I'm excited about getting the Prime for two primary reasons:
1. It's lighter and thinner, and so should be easier to manage for longer ebook reading sessions. I'm pretty sure of this because my wife's GT 10.1 is more comfortable to use than my OG Transformer, and the Prime is a touch thinner and lighter yet.
2. The extra brightness is going to be awesome. I can ALMOST use my Transformer on the back porch in the SoCal sun for ebook reading--but only almost. The extra brightness should take the Prime over the edge and make it usable.
Everything else--faster, more battery life, better touch responsiveness, etc.--is just gravy as far as I'm concerned. Given that I'll be able to sell my Transformer and dock, I'll only be spending a few hundred dollars for a significantly enhanced device. Can't beat that with a stick...
I would say it depends on your starting point. For me.. it was a Galaxy Tab 10.1 that I bought for $400 and sold for $400. The cost of stepping up to the Prime was $99 so yeah.. id say it will be worth it.
If you have equipment that you have to sell to buy it I would look at how high the replacement cost would be to get there. If you have an original with dock that you can sell, then just see if the amount of money you have to chip in is worth it to you.
If you are happy with what you have the chance is you will keep being happy with it.. if you like to have the latest/greatest then the chance is that the upgrade would be worth it.
TLDR: What I wrote didn't help at all.. only you could decide if it is worth it or not.
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Price does not seem high to me. $500 is the same price the original 32GB Transformer came out at. The difference is this time there is no 16GB $400 option. Sure there are other tablets that are deeply discounted, but they suck and nobody wants them.
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Ah, but, there IS a $399 16GB option (that will likely be discounted): the original Transformer. ASUS isn't pulling it from the market, and so there's still a decent, lower-entry-price product on the market.
I just think ASUS needs to make more of an effort to make it clear that the $499 32GB Transformer Prime should be directly compared to the $599 32GB Apple iPad 2. If they can make people understand that simple fact, they'll do just fine.
Orion66 said:
Don't get me wrong. I had TF one. I would like to have Prime. BUT.
Is that really worth buying especially now when the price is so high?
What is really better in Prime? Tegra 3? Do we really need tegra 3? As far as I remember there were so few games that used Tegra 2. I could count them on 2 hands fingers.
So I ask. What do you think guys? Is it worth to switch TF to Prime? Is it really worth it?
What if Tegra 3 will end like Tegra 2 with only few apps behind?
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ummmmmm yes
The OP answered his own question without even realizing it. Based on initial reviews and hands-on experience the Transformer Prime (TP) is a worthwhile upgrade from Transformer (T). Since you're a previous T owner you should confirm for yourself by getting hands-on with a demo unit and not making any sizable investment blindly. For the financial sensitive buyers it's not worth the premium to pay full retail to be first in line due to the fact that the price is relatively high as compared to competitive AMD E-450 APU based netbooks costing ~$400 with the added benefit of a broader range of software. Furthermore, there will be competing quad-core tablets in the pipeline that may offer better specs (eg. Lenovo LePad K2 1.6GHz Tegra3 and 2GB DRAM, Samsung quad-core Exynos) and is predicted, per Nvidia CEO, to be more affordable in the ~$300 range as the market matures in the next few quarters. If you have the disposable income and/or have an immediate need then get in line otherwise you'll benefit by holding off.
Personally, if money is no object I'd own both a Samsung Galaxy Note and TP. But, if I had to settle for just one I'd go with Samsung Galaxy Note since it can serve as a phone, tablet and displace x86 desktop as a very low power general purpose computer (what I had intend to use the TP for).
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Don't get me wrong. I had TF one. I would like to have Prime. BUT.
Is that really worth buying especially now when the price is so high?
What is really better in Prime? Tegra 3? Do we really need tegra 3? As far as I remember there were so few games that used Tegra 2. I could count them on 2 hands fingers.
So I ask. What do you think guys? Is it worth to switch TF to Prime? Is it really worth it?
What if Tegra 3 will end like Tegra 2 with only few apps behind?
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Don't get me wrong. I had a BMW 535i. I would like to have a BMW 550i. BUT.
Is that really worth buying especially now when the price of the BMW 550i is so high? What is really better in the BMW 550i? Bigger engine? Do we really need a bigger engine? As far as I remember there is still a speed limit on the road and the price of gas is still high.
So I ask. What do you think guys? Is it worth to switch to a 550i? Is it really worth it?
What if the BMW 550i will end like the BMW 535i when you still can get a speeding ticket if you speed and still have to pay high gas prices?
With the Kindle Fire and Nook Color at $199 you're going to see Android tablets morph in to categories much like Intel's done with processors (i3, i5, i7). There will be value, mid-range, and high-end. Value will be the marketshare leader, followed by mid-range, and then high-end. High-end will be the smallest but most profitible segment margin wise. The Prime is a high-end tablet. Asus even said they'd continue the original Transformer as their mid-range offering. If you want a high-end tablet the question is which one because they'll all be priced similarly. They'll all be quad-core but Acer, Lenovo, and HTC's offerings will have 2GB of RAM, 1920x1152 displays, and ICS pre-installed. The Prime's the first next-gen tablet but the high-end market will look much different in Q1 2012. If you have a decent first-gen tablet, other than a resale drop on eBay/CL, you might be better off waiting to see what your options are. I like the idea of a higher res display, especially with ICS. We're all geeks and addicted to shiny and new but we don't represent the overall market. There's a reason VW outsells M-B, BMW, and Audi combined.
I really loved the Nexus 9 in the couple months that I had it. Just couldn't stand the lightbleed. Build quality was acceptable but not great.
Now I'm looking for another tablet of comparable specs (9" or bigger with similar performance).
It seems that the Z4 tablet would fit the bill. It has more screen real estate (10.1"), widescreen, better build, expandable storage, similar power (snapdragon 810), more ram, lighter, water resistant, better camera *probably* and *hopefully* a better screen. Xperia devices tend to have consistently good screens, so I don't expect any glaring quality issues in this department. Plus it already has Lollipop. Only obvious drawbacks are side facing speakers, the fact that it is not quite bone-stock Android, somewhat smaller battery, and that it will most likely cost 100-200 more than the Nexus 9 32gb.
Do you guys think its a good alternative?
Do i think a high end tablet that comes out about 4-6 months after the N9 be a good alternative? Yes.
Obviously if you had to buy it today it loses as you can't buy it today. But from what I see the Z4 will be a nice device. just comes down to your needs and when you need it. Don't think it will be that much more expensive (unless it has LTE)
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Do i think a high end tablet that comes out about 4-6 months after the N9 be a good alternative? Yes.
Obviously if you had to buy it today it loses as you can't buy it today. But from what I see the Z4 will be a nice device. just comes down to your needs and when you need it. Don't think it will be that much more expensive (unless it has LTE)
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It's just that large-sized premium Android tablets seem to be so far and few between these days. It seems that the Nexus 9 and Galaxy Tab S are the only ones that fit this category, so a tablet like the Z4 is much needed. Another other upcoming tablets to consider?
True. Too bad we can't get our hands on the Nokia Tablet. Outside of that there aren't any highly anticipated tablets that are around the corner. Z4 is the leader, and if they are making one, whatever shield tablet comes next.
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True. Too bad we can't get our hands on the Nokia Tablet. Outside of that there aren't any highly anticipated tablets that are around the corner. Z4 is the leader, and if they are making one, whatever shield tablet comes next.
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I've looked at the Nokia Tablet, but like the Shield Tablet, its a bit too small for my type of usage (under 9"). My primary use is comic book reading, games and web surfing. I would love to see Motorola make a new full-sized tablet. It would be the next best thing to a Nexus with its fast Android updates.
I have had my nexus 7 2013 since release, and I have been through 3 aftermarket screens as well as the OEM screen (none of which I even broke) and this silly tablet has set me back 400$ in screens. I think it is time to sell this thing and get a better 7in tablet. The problem is that I cannot seem to find a good alternative.
I REALLY need modding support such as an unlockable bootloader and plentiful roms (something I adore the nexus devices for) and I want a 1080p or higher screen with a good CPU. I cannot spend any more than 100-150 bucks plus whatever I can get for my existing 32GB tablet. The screen has a crack right on the edge of it, and it usually still works.
I am at a loss though as to what else I can do. I was hoping to buy one off of ebay that didnt power on or had a broken USB port, ect. but I had no luck. I am certainly willing to buy used.