hey guyz..m new on android ..juz bought evo 3d after my nokia n8..so i dont understand much about ROM etc..plz tell me wat s ROM and how can i put custom ROM in my mobile..and risks involved in dis process.. i bought dis mobile for 40000 indian rupees, which s very costly for we indians..o thanks
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hey guyz..m new on android ..juz bought evo 3d after my nokia n8..so i dont understand much about ROM etc..plz tell me wat s ROM and how can i put custom ROM in my mobile..and risks involved in dis process.. i bought dis mobile for 40000 indian rupees, which s very costly for we indians..o thanks
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HOOOO boy, what a question! Well to get started you asked what a ROM is and basically what a ROM is, is a modified version of AOSP(google search this) which can include but is not limited to, customized kernels(for battery and CPU optimization), and apps that can greatly increase your phones responsiveness and overall create a better experience for you, all in all its a modified version of your phones android software that makes you phone seem more powerful! Secondly you asked how to put custom ROMs onto your phone, this can be a pain painstakingly tough process or a very simple, headache free process. There are very many in depth guides on how to do this, but I will give a quick run down on how I got it to work. So first I rooted my EVO 3D which is basically preparing your phone for custom ROMs and Kernels, this can easily be done by using the HTC Supertool v2(do a search to find it). Then once you have rooted it, it is time to attempt for S-Off. This can be a little tricky but I'm sure you can do it. You can try do attempt S-Off through the supertool but that didn't work for me, so what you need to do is go to revolutionary.io and follow their simple instructions to get S-Off, once you have completed that they will ask you if you want to get a thing called ClockWorkMod. This is called a custom recovery and it is the basis from which you will flash a custom ROM, so install that and then we can move on. Next you want to locate a ROM, I recommend LeeDrOiD's ROM because it is very stable and has a lot to offer. Once you have that downloaded place it onto your phones SD card and boot into your phones CWM recovery(search on how to do that), and flash the custom ROM following the on screen instructions on your phone. Now you wait for it to install and then select reboot from the main menu of CWM and WAIT. Your phone will take a long time to reboot the first time so don't worry. Once it starts up you are all done . Of course there are risks to this procedure such as bricking the phone or boot looping the phone which i will explain but I have never had that problem. Bricking is when the phone becomes completely useless, and is a result of interrupting flashing or installation of a custom ROM or custom recovery such as CWM. Boot looping is when the phone repeatedly plays the boot animation without ever advancing to the next screen this can also be a result of interrupting a custom ROM's flash or it can happen from a bad kernel or interrupted kernel installation. These however can be easily fixed by booting into a custom recovery and flash a backup or a entirely new ROM. Most ROMs will not delete your data but in case they do it is a good idea to make a backup. I hope this help feel free to send a thanks this way good luck with your phone!
Hey guys,
I have a motorola razr(indian) and i am thinking of rooting it. But i aready updated it so...i need to downgrade it according to this but using europe fastboot files.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1457622
but then he tells me to flash asia rom again...what happens if i dont and stay on the europe rom..will the root process be any different? And whats the difference b/w eu rom and asia rom? are there any advantages of eu rom like getting updates faster? will i have any difficulty in the future if i flash the eu rom?
My original ROM was from Asia, but I went ahead and flashed EU versions. Found that it's smoother than the Asia versions. Anyway, to answer your question, the rooting process for Gingerbread remains the same.
It's just that if you choose to stay with the EU roms, and you choose to apply the OTA updates, the bootloader will change, i.e. you can't use RSD Lite to fastboot. You'll have to use another tool, Fla****. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1453660
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My original ROM was from Asia, but I went ahead and flashed EU versions. Found that it's smoother than the Asia versions. Anyway, to answer your question, the rooting process for Gingerbread remains the same.
It's just that if you choose to stay with the EU roms, and you choose to apply the OTA updates, the bootloader will change, i.e. you can't use RSD Lite to fastboot. You'll have to use another tool, Fla****. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1453660
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Thanks for the Promp reply, if u dont mind i have another question, i was planning to install arctic 3.0.0 after i shift to eu roms. Can u tell me the advantages of arctic over the stock? and whether it is possible to flash it on my razr?
Thank you so much
Yeah it's possible. I flashed both Arctic and FTS.
Pros of Arctic:
- It's a little bit faster than stock ROM
- It's deodexed, which means you have greater freedom when it comes to flashing themes and mods and stuff.
- There's a bunch of optimizations, which the full list is in the page itself.
Cons of Arctic:
- It's quite unstable, as the calender.apk will FC every few minutes.
- I prefer the stock theme to the one used there, but that's just me. But you can use the theme uninstaller.
For me, I'm using FTS V2.4 now. But the stock 167.73.20 ROM is really good enough for normal use. Although like I said, the bootloader will change, so RSD Lite is useless.
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Yeah it's possible. I flashed both Arctic and FTS.
Pros of Arctic:
- It's a little bit faster than stock ROM
- It's deodexed, which means you have greater freedom when it comes to flashing themes and mods and stuff.
- There's a bunch of optimizations, which the full list is in the page itself.
Cons of Arctic:
- It's quite unstable, as the calender.apk will FC every few minutes.
- I prefer the stock theme to the one used there, but that's just me. But you can use the theme uninstaller.
For me, I'm using FTS V2.4 now. But the stock 167.73.20 ROM is really good enough for normal use. Although like I said, the bootloader will change, so RSD Lite is useless.
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And one last question..what are the advantages of having cwm on boot for the razr? i mean if i have to install a new rom i will have to install cwm on boot yet again right..will it be helpful if a theme goes wrong or something like that and puts me in a bootloop? And thx for ur advice on FTS...seems pretty good it seems to have lesser bugs than arctic so..i might as well go for it.
That's true. But having CWM on boot is kinda like a safety net. In case something goes wrong with flashing a new rom. It's better to spend that little bit of time setting it up, rather than regretting not having it.
And FTS has a few bugs also. However, it depends on what you want with your ROM. If you want something stable and speedy, 167.73.20 stock is good enough. Used it for a couple of days, and seems rather awesome.
At the moment, custom ROMs aren't that great compared to stock ROMs. Maybe if the BL is unlocked, and we get to change kernels, it'll be a lot better. But for now, just stick to stock ROMs. Unless you really like the themes from this ROM, or whatever.
hmm, but then cant u just theme the stock rom? and the bugs in FTS are quite less compared to all the features it offers so.. 1 or 2 here and there wont matter i guess.
Well it is possible, but you'll probably need an external launcher, like go launcher or launcher pro. But that's just appearances only. If you wanna change things like the status bar or battery indicator, your ROM has to be deodexed.
Haha. Like I said, it's up to you. Go experiment around! For me, I actually prefer stock. But who knows? You might prefer something else.
i just tried to install cwm on boot after keeping my root and updating to 651.73.30.xt910.en.eu and it said everything install successfully but..when i power up my phone it just boots normally without going into cwm recovery..it boots normally!! And surely put the bootstrap app as deny in superuser..plz help
Try restarting a couple of times. That might help. If not, re-install it again.
tried restarting couple of times..but no effect and if i have to re install..do i have to first undo whatever i did or just do the whole process over it? and one more thing..how do i use fla****? do i just put the rom files in its folder or the fla**** files in the rom folder?
Just install the zip again. And you extract both the ROM and Fla****, then put the files in the same folder. Run FlashME.bat.
Great! Thanks a lot for your help! i really appreciated it! FTS runs real smooth and i like it. the only problem is that everytime i boot something called motorola services crases-com.motorola.service if u have any idea can u tell me what app this is relating to.. so that i can either delete it or not use it. Anyway if u dont, then forget it. Thx again for all ur help
No prob. Feel free to hit the thanks button. Haha. Anyway that's an existing bug with FTS. Just ignore it. It shouldn't re-occur after FC a couple of times. It's annoying, but only if you keep rebooting your Razr. Other than that, it's quite stable for daily use.
haha thanked every post of yours lol
hey and when u have the time can u compare the 2 roms fts and arctic..? pros cons of both and what feature that one of it has over the other? thanks
Like I said, you should go experiment around. Different people want different things from their ROMs. Although one major disadvantage of FTS now is that the dev gave up on it cause of Moto.
yea...fts was nice the only thing that annoyed me about that was the com.motorola.service FC's...now im planning to move to arctic..so to go back to arctic i first have to use my nandroid back up to go to stock rooted rom and then to arctic am i write?
But the FC for FTS doesn't occur regularly, just the first couple of minutes after you boot up your phone. Unless you regularly turn it on and off, it shouldn't be a major problem.
Actually, I think you can try flashing Arctic straight. After doing a full wipe. But I'm not too sure about that.
so if i do a full wipe of cache and factory reset i can directly go to arctic? if anything goes wrong ill still have cwm right so..i can go back to stock?
Here's a couple ROMs I've been thinking about installing.
ViperRez - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1780275
ReZone - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1839189
I've also thought about going back to GB. ICS just isn't that appealing to me. Plus it seems like there are more steps to turn of background data, sync and various other things. It was easier for me to find and remember where those were.
I'm not sure what's capable with the two ROMs I listed. Would it be possible to change the items at the bottom of the screen? I'd like to get rid of the camera, messages and email icons. It would be nice to have the Gmail and internet icons down there instead. Maybe even the play store. Hopefully that will help someone identify a better ROM.
Now on to rooting and installing the new ROM. I've flashed video cards and motherboards before if that helps at all. What all will I need and what steps do I need to take? The OTA version of ICS is already installed. Hboot is 2.25.000 which is what I need for an ICS ROM what I've read. I have downloaded what I think are the latest versions of ReZone(9.1.12 v1) and ViperRez(1.0.3). Of course I'll need to download a new file if a ROM that better suits me is mentioned.
If you are s-off go with cyanogenmod. Great ICS experience.
I personally would recommend an ics rom (cm9 preferably). as far as rooting and unlocking, unlock via htcdev.com and you will need to flash amon ra recovery after you've unlocked. A quick look through the sticky threads should tell you all you need to know
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I third the motion for a CM9 rom because they're insanely fast, give amazing battery life and very customizable. It won't look anything like Sense though if that's what you like, there are also some pretty awesome themes for CM9/AOKP, this is the one I'm currently using : Cobalt CM9
Just a warning, if you would like to try out CM9 you have to manually flash the boot.img via the fastboot command from your computer after you unlock via htcdev.com because AOSP roms like CM9 use a different kernel than Sense-based ROMs do, you'll have to manually flash the boot image again if you would like to get back to a Sense ROM. This is the reason why most people S-Off since the /boot partition is writable and can be flashed directly with the ROM.
I am very new to flashing ROMs. I have Flashed the Route66 and also the t0ltevzw ROM as well. The trouble I am having is flashing the ClockworkMOD . I have tried also using the GN2 Toolkit with the stock ROM, and I have no luck in getting CWM onto the device. I have tried also flashing CWM from ODIN and I get errors.
When I turn on the phone and try to get to CWM, I get a message that a software not provided by Verizon...blah blah and I need to take phone into VZW. It fixes after I flash a ROM back to the device.
Can someone explain what I am doing wrong, or what step I am missing, or what proper ROM to use?
As stated, I already tried using the stock 4.1.1 ROM along with GNII Toolkit to flash CWM and SU and they fail everytime.
At present I have flashed the Route66 ROM back to my device and I have ROM Manager installed and I have already tried flashing CWN 6.0.2.6
Sounds like you are in the sameboat I was about a week ago, the fix to this is to unlock your bootloader first which can be done following some guides in the Development section, you'll want to start with flashing a stock ROM image to the phone through ODIN which you can get one through the "[ODIN][VRALJB] Restore to Stock" by imnuts in the Development section, this should make it so you can reaccess the phone again to atleast use it, then you'll want to look into the "How to Unlock Your Bootloader -New and Improved Super Easy-" thread from the Original Android Development form for Verizon Note II, this you will want to read everything through so you get it right the first time which it will unlock your bootloader so you are able to install customer ROMs which then I highly recommend Scotts Clean ROM.
Let me know if you have any questions on the process or if you are able to get back on your feet!
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Sounds like you are in the sameboat I was about a week ago, the fix to this is to unlock your bootloader first which can be done following some guides in the Development section, you'll want to start with flashing a stock ROM image to the phone through ODIN which you can get one through the "[ODIN][VRALJB] Restore to Stock" by imnuts in the Development section, this should make it so you can reaccess the phone again to atleast use it, then you'll want to look into the "How to Unlock Your Bootloader -New and Improved Super Easy-" thread from the Original Android Development form for Verizon Note II, this you will want to read everything through so you get it right the first time which it will unlock your bootloader so you are able to install customer ROMs which then I highly recommend Scotts Clean ROM.
Let me know if you have any questions on the process or if you are able to get back on your feet!
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Thanks for the reply. I will look into your suggestion. Is thios suggested ROM really close to the original stock? I only ask because I prefer one that is as original as possible.
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Thanks for the reply. I will look into your suggestion. Is thios suggested ROM really close to the original stock? I only ask because I prefer one that is as original as possible.
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Yes, it is nearly identical to stock just with added features like the Hotspot is fully unlocked so you can tether for free and you can choose to add a new kernel to the phone so you will be able to overclock/underclock and undervolt it to either improve performance or make your battery last for ever. The install is easy since he incorporated a nice GUI to for the install which prompts you along the way for what stuff you want to have on the phone which you can make it as stock as you want with Touchwiz (orig Samsung interface) or bump up the customization with Nova launcher or Apex which personally I've used both an Nova is better thus far. There has been known issues with the GPS with the ROM however getting the GPS Status & ToolKit app from the Play Store then running the Download option fixes it to the extent of my testing.
And one other thing I just remembered which you may or may not run into is if you use Linux on your PC Odin generally is not going to work since there really are no Drivers for it on Linux so getting your hands on a WIndows system would be idea but a Virtual machine may work but I haven't tried that yet.
thanks
soulsk8r99 said:
Yes, it is nearly identical to stock just with added features like the Hotspot is fully unlocked so you can tether for free and you can choose to add a new kernel to the phone so you will be able to overclock/underclock and undervolt it to either improve performance or make your battery last for ever. The install is easy since he incorporated a nice GUI to for the install which prompts you along the way for what stuff you want to have on the phone which you can make it as stock as you want with Touchwiz (orig Samsung interface) or bump up the customization with Nova launcher or Apex which personally I've used both an Nova is better thus far. There has been known issues with the GPS with the ROM however getting the GPS Status & ToolKit app from the Play Store then running the Download option fixes it to the extent of my testing.
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I wanted to come back and just say thanks for the help/suggestions. Tho I have flashed a couple roms, I was a bit shaky about unlocking the BL. But it went without a hitch and I did try the CleanROM. It is nice and fast. I I love having all the toggles and the All App Multiview. I only had a small issue recovering a backup. It sucks that not all roms support putting all your icons as they were. Anyways, thanks again and I liked the rom so much I donated because I know this stuff takes time.
I'm trying really hard to do this without being dopey. I want to get my Galaxy Tab 10.1 P7510 to slim down and speed up, so I want to root and apply a new ROM. This much I'm pretty sure of. I understand that I need to replace the recovery code, which will allow me to replace the stock ROM with a modded ROM. (How am I doing?). I think I need Odin running on my PC to load the new recovery. I understand booting into recovery mode (I think). I've read about putting the new ROM on my device and rebooting into it. I believe I then need to install google apps to get some of the basic stuff (like Play store) back on the device. I assume that is because they are not part of the modded ROMs? But... how the heck does one decide WHICH recovery, WHICH ROM, WHICH gapps and the right versions of each? I'm going around and around. I'm willing to do the research, but I'm not even clear on the high-level process and steps, let alone the details, finer points. I'm a retired app developer (client server, Oracle, Powerbuilder) so I have some idea of what I'm doing. Just some. Thanks in advance if anyone cares to help.
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I'm trying really hard to do this without being dopey. I want to get my Galaxy Tab 10.1 P7510 to slim down and speed up, so I want to root and apply a new ROM. This much I'm pretty sure of. I understand that I need to replace the recovery code, which will allow me to replace the stock ROM with a modded ROM. (How am I doing?). I think I need Odin running on my PC to load the new recovery. I understand booting into recovery mode (I think). I've read about putting the new ROM on my device and rebooting into it. I believe I then need to install google apps to get some of the basic stuff (like Play store) back on the device. I assume that is because they are not part of the modded ROMs? But... how the heck does one decide WHICH recovery, WHICH ROM, WHICH gapps and the right versions of each? I'm going around and around. I'm willing to do the research, but I'm not even clear on the high-level process and steps, let alone the details, finer points. I'm a retired app developer (client server, Oracle, Powerbuilder) so I have some idea of what I'm doing. Just some. Thanks in advance if anyone cares to help.
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A custom ROM can be installed via custom recovery or Odin, so you don't really need a custom recovery before installing it, however it is higly advised.
To say it all, you don't even need root to flash a custom recovery. Some custom recovery like CM also come already rooted.
It is because they are not part of the custom ROM, since including gapps source code would take up more space and some other issues. Regarding the fact about which recovery and ROM to choose... the fact that there is a lot of them doesn't mean that they are very different. Some are based on the source code of another and just add little features that one must be looking for in order to be interested. Generally, TWRP and CWM are the ones most documented. With a simple google comparision research you should be able to decide. Custom ROMs are also based on two vastly documentet projrcts: CM and AOSP. Start with the regular ones, try them both, stock with one if you don't need anything else or start looking around among the forks.
However, I started using custom ROMs with an objective: build source code. For this scope, I decided to use CM for it's huge documentation, since I was looking for a kernel that did one particolar thing, but there wasn't one so I did it on my own. Just to say, I don't know how it feels like to be in decisive about what ROM to pick up.
Ciuffy's SM-G900F CM 12.1 spirit hath marked this way.