hey everyone im about to get the touch pro but im not sure if it needs the $30 service plan from verizon. i kept looking it up most people say no some say you need it.... im confused
I don't have a CDMA TP but I would suppose if you could disable all the data functions, it would be possible.
ok well what does the touch pro have that involves constant internet connection?
I'd have to check out a stock CDMA ROM in order to tell you that for sure. I suppose there would be a work around required that I don't know about. As for as GSM side of things, I think it depends on the internet connection. I do suppose one could do the same (disable the data connection altogether). I have an unlimited data plan so I have no reason nor desire to do this.
well i was reading somewhere about going into settings then connections then connections again then changing the network that automatically connects to tue internet to something else. i tried it on my Hd2 and it wouldnt let me update the weather or go on the internet unless i used WiFi. can anyone confirm this works on the touch pro ? i have a gsm network as well so I'm not sure if this works the same
There is nothing on the touch pro that requires a data plan, you can use only wifi.
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Has anyone bothered to try and use the Touch Pro with their "1x Unlimited Mobile Browser" plan? I know that Bell tries to sell the user on their "Email and Internet" "data" plans when this phone is purchased, but the phone is capable of 1x so there is no reason why the 1x mobile browser shouldnt work unless they disable it on your account when they set this phone up (which they shouldnt if its part of your current contract). I've never had to pay any extra with my Unlimited Mobile Browser plan and I've used my phone for more than just web browsing. I've used it for streaming media, downloading from my ftp server at home, connecting to various servers using 3rd part apps, email, etc. Hell, I've even tethered once or twice downloading a few MB of data and not been charged.
I'm wanting to get this phone but I really dont want to give up my sweet corporate account just to use the data. Thankfully it has wifi so I'll be able to use the net regardless of my data/mobile browser plan.
They wouldn't let me sign up with the Unlimited Mobile Browser, they said that its not compatible. It seems to be an option online but not in the store or over the phone. I argued with them about this but they woudn't budge.
daveloft said:
They wouldn't let me sign up with the Unlimited Mobile Browser, they said that its not compatible. It seems to be an option online but not in the store or over the phone. I argued with them about this but they woudn't budge.
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I'm betting because it works just fine on the unlimited browser plan. The friggin thing has wifi, not EVERYONE will need a data plan for it.
I've actually started a thread at forum.bell.ca asking the same thing... we'll see what their response is...
http://forums.bell.ca/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=321&sid=084842dcba10b12552284596cb8fe64d
Its lame, my friend has the old HTC Touch and has the Fun 15 bundle. He gets voicemail, call display, unlimited text messaging and unlimited mobile browsing for $15.
I have the same Fun 15 bundle but they got me paying an extra $30 for the unlimited data plan. We use the phone for all the same things. Opera browsing, You Tube, Messenger, Email.
Were using the same services and I'm paying 3 times as much because they classify the phone differently. The bell rep I talked to agreed its bullsh*t but thats just the way it is.
I'm almost half tempted to just try using a touch pro with my current plan... just to see if they're bluffing or not. Now I too have the "1x Unlimited Mobile Browser" but for me it's built into my plan and doesn't even come up as a removable option under my features. But here's the kicker: my current phone is, though 3 years old, an EV-DO phone (Samsung SPH-A920) that can manage data either in 1x or EV-DO mode. (Though technically the network is called 1xEV-DO... but that's not the point!) I don't pay anything extra for when I use my internet when it's in a EV-DO region (I'm in Edmonton). Did a little test and downloaded Google maps, took about 20 seconds for 420KB (~21KB/sec) daveloft, I'm curious what speeds you can get with the "unlimited data plan" and if the "special" data servers make a difference
I'm in Toronto and I got about 1MB downloaded using Google Maps in 20 seconds.
Can you change IMEI from a Touch?
When i bought my touch pro from bell the rep told me it would work on mobile browser. i called bell and they said that i had to buy the data plan. 5 minutes of *****ing and they gave me a $20 discount so now i dont mind. i hate how every person you talk to with bell tells you something different. luckily it worked out ok for me this time but i feel your pain.
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I have my Touch Pro from Sprint activated on MTS-Bells Partner, before this I had the vouge I activated and the guy did not change my plan so I should still have 1x data in the EPST this is confirmed we entered the exact settings in every field that is in the EPST altho there is a couple new fields in the Touch Pro and try and try as I might still no data... only thro wifi. It works fine for a phone and texting but the data will not connect. His explanation was that the touch was built with a different hardware configuration that will allow for a "Fun" package.. Whatever that ment he said the Touch Pro no matter what we do just can not be configured to allow that type of simple connection for data it must have a A Key inserted to function.
I have not yet given up as I think that if I had a stock BELL shipped rom to flash [that would give me a new Bell PRI and PRL firmware update] it may work as I am now using a HTC Touch PRL from my vogue with a PRI from the original Sprint... the sprint PRL works as well but I was constantly in roaming mode... no data in any combination... tried every possible thing I could and I am big on problem solving..... no luck... (
I have Froyo running from SD card on TP. I'm on a old retention family plan with unlimited txt, data etc at evdo speed. When I use the phone it shows
3g as the speed connection. Per the Sprint CS reps, my "plan is not compatable" with the new phones offered and I will need to get a new plan (ie.. everything $69) to be able to use a newer phone with the faster data speeds. (I know this is BS). My question to all of you is;
1. If my phone is using the 3g network, can sprint find out the actual data speed my phone is using?
2. If they do find out I'm using the faster data network that my plan doesn't offer, what will/can they do to me for it?
Sorry if this is a lame question but I don't want to give up my old plan and do enjoy using Froyo on my TP. Once I can afford a more expensive plan I'll probably go with the EVO or what ever comes after it.
Come on everyone. 100 views and no replys? I want to continue to use Froyo on my Touch Pro but don't want to get burned by Sprint for using their 3g network when all I'm contracted for is evdo. Any one have a clue? Thanks.
I have the same issue, old retention plan with unlimited data included, but "incompatible" with newer phones. I have been testing out xdandroid builds for a few months now without any issues related to billing. I don't think sprint can tell.
It's conceivable that Sprint could monitor their data network watching for Android activation requests from "non-Android" phones (various GSM carriers have been known to do this).
But, to the best of anyone's knowledge, they don't. I've run a Vogue with Android for almost a year (and briefly run Froyo on my Touch Pro) without issue, and so have countless others.
The "speed" thing is a moot point - there are even dumbphones with EV-DO.
I wouldn't worry about it.
Sprint doesnt have 3G, they have EV-DO. 3G is a GSM speed format. Also, i doubt unless you are pulling down 5gigs of data a month they would even say anything. At that point it would be apparent that you are tethering. I routinely pull down 500megs + with normal browsing. Never been asked anything.
CDMA 3G is typically known as EVDO rev A, and common among most phones these days.
the actual data rate you pull is throttled by your carrier, and not controlled by your phone.
tethering is typically discovered due to a registry setting specifically forcing a new data connection for the tethered device separate from the phone data.
They probably can but they wont bother with you unless you are a top tear data user.
So I really needed tethering for the next few days so I decided to spend the $15 to enable the feature. I'm able to connect my laptop (tried 2 different laptops) to the phone using AP or USB tethering. The problem is the internet connectivity (exclamation point appearing on the wifi status within 1 min of connecting). The wifi status says no internet access, but it is still connected to the phone.
On the phone side of things, I have full 4G bars (even when the connection drops on the laptop). I have a really good connection in the area (speedtest of ~2000KB/s). Ive called T-Mobile and they can't figure it out. They told me to go exchange the phone for another one and make sure it works with my laptop before leaving.
I just hope the new Amaze will work. The mobile AP feature really comes in handy sometimes... I may have to leave the amaze and go GSII if I can't get this resolved. Anyone else having a similar issue with tethering? FYI, I was able to get USB tethering to work by using easyteher (from android market).
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So I really needed tethering for the next few days so I decided to spend the $15 to enable the feature. I'm able to connect my laptop (tried 2 different laptops) to the phone using AP or USB tethering. The problem is the internet connectivity (exclamation point appearing on the wifi status within 1 min of connecting). The wifi status says no internet access, but it is still connected to the phone.
On the phone side of things, I have full 4G bars (even when the connection drops on the laptop). I have a really good connection in the area (speedtest of ~2000KB/s). Ive called T-Mobile and they can't figure it out. They told me to go exchange the phone for another one and make sure it works with my laptop before leaving.
I just hope the new Amaze will work. The mobile AP feature really comes in handy sometimes... I may have to leave the amaze and go GSII if I can't get this resolved. Anyone else having a similar issue with tethering? FYI, I was able to get USB tethering to work by using easyteher (from android market).
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Im having the same problem i change the phone already two times. I think because is a new phone maybe the need to work on some updates to the phone etc. so it can work i guess
I also have this problem. :-/
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A known issue that T-Mobile is working feverishly on delivering a maintenance release to patch the issue.
Surprised - I have not had problems except when fooling around with some different ROM's here. Back on 1.36 and all working OK.
Did the OTA break it or is this issue right out of the box?
out of the box. not software .6 related. i'm suffering from it too. and i'm on employee plan. same sim in other phones work, just not in amaze. weird as some are not experiencing issues.. or able to connect just briefly, then timeouts occur.
hope we don't have to pay
Looks like they are locking down on it
Friend that wrks for them same issue
All other phones work need to pay for this phone or gs2
????? tethering. get is free!!! double why would you pay????
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madreag said:
So I really needed tethering for the next few days so I decided to spend the $15 to enable the feature. I'm able to connect my laptop (tried 2 different laptops) to the phone using AP or USB tethering. The problem is the internet connectivity (exclamation point appearing on the wifi status within 1 min of connecting). The wifi status says no internet access, but it is still connected to the phone.
On the phone side of things, I have full 4G bars (even when the connection drops on the laptop). I have a really good connection in the area (speedtest of ~2000KB/s). Ive called T-Mobile and they can't figure it out. They told me to go exchange the phone for another one and make sure it works with my laptop before leaving.
I just hope the new Amaze will work. The mobile AP feature really comes in handy sometimes... I may have to leave the amaze and go GSII if I can't get this resolved. Anyone else having a similar issue with tethering? FYI, I was able to get USB tethering to work by using easyteher (from android market).
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I had the same issue and it's an easy fix that is not hardware-related at all.
Go into Settings > Wireless & networks > Mobile networks > Access Point Names > Click on T-Mobile Data > Now delete everything in the APN type box and make sure that there is nothing in the Authentication type box either.
It didn't work for me and now it works!
Typical T-Mobile - in their quest to remove functionality, they actually break more.
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I had the same issue and it's an easy fix that is not hardware-related at all.
Go into Settings > Wireless & networks > Mobile networks > Access Point Names > Click on T-Mobile Data > Now delete everything in the APN type box and make sure that there is nothing in the Authentication type box either.
It didn't work for me and now it works!
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OMG that worked for me!!
thank you!!!
no more riderecting to the offer page..
im on it right now testing it.. haha if this gets posted it is succesful..
fml that was easy too..lol
Editing on me normal wifi: this thing was super slow! is there a way to make it faster?
my mytouch 3g was way faster than this
I tethered my phone with my laptop and did not realize that the HTC One has a limit on tethering data. Now I am forever unable to tether with any device for that every time a device connects it leads to the Tmobile page where it tells me to buy the tethering plan (which I am too cheap to do). Is there any way to bypass this message?
The reason I say this is because with my old HTC HD7 I was able to tether till the battery dies. I was shocked when I was limited on the prestigious HTC One (maybe I'm just a noob) but please help guys?
(P.S. I've tried apps, same results)
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I tethered my phone with my laptop and did not realize that the HTC One has a limit on tethering data. Now I am forever unable to tether with any device for that every time a device connects it leads to the Tmobile page where it tells me to buy the tethering plan (which I am too cheap to do). Is there any way to bypass this message?
The reason I say this is because with my old HTC HD7 I was able to tether till the battery dies. I was shocked when I was limited on the prestigious HTC One (maybe I'm just a noob) but please help guys?
(P.S. I've tried apps, same results)
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You have to create a new apn and add the old epc.tmobile.com to it and use that. Also it's good when you have an unlimited data plan to make sure.
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You have to create a new apn and add the old epc.tmobile.com to it and use that. Also it's good when you have an unlimited data plan to make sure.
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Yep I do an unlimited data plan. Anywho, I added a new apn but it did not seem to do the trick. I still got the tmobile page .
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As you started you are having problems with usb tethering
So instead of that why don't you make wifi hotspot or try bluetooth tethering!
I really hope I can get some timely help. This site has given me a lot of solutions in the past. The gears of war 5 tech test ends tomorrow and this happened yesterday in the middle of a game...
My s9plus is unlocked for any carrier. Bought it back in January for $150 and it initially was in Verizon. I got with boost and my hotspot always worked using the dun trick when making a new apn. About a month and a half ago, boost forced my phone randomly to connect to a tower that was less efficient. I went from 70mbps down and 10mbps up and 5bar signal to 6mbps down and less than 1 mbps up. My bar strength was at a constant 2/3 and the connection would constantly fluctuate, but I was still able to use the hotspot if I could find a spot in my home the connection would work.
Boost wouldnt correct this issue, and after all the troubleshooting with no solution, I switched to metro a few days ago. No part of me was concerned I would be losing something doing this. I had no clue, but assumed it would be fine.
My connection is 5 bars, lte, speeds are not what I hoped but upload speed is very solid. However, the hotspot will no longer connect my devices to the internet. I only use my xbox one and although it will connect to the hotspot, it will not share the internet. I spent a few hours trying to do several things, including using adb shell to change the dun value to 0. I would appreciate any advice, because where I live has no internet options and I'm freaking out as this was all I had and now its not working despite me doing everything right. I even tried using pdanet and making my computer a hotspot, but a double nat on my xbox isnt enough to let me connect to games, just gives me about 5mbps down and 1 mbps up.
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I really hope I can get some timely help. This site has given me a lot of solutions in the past. The gears of war 5 tech test ends tomorrow and this happened yesterday in the middle of a game...
My s9plus is unlocked for any carrier. Bought it back in January for $150 and it initially was in Verizon. I got with boost and my hotspot always worked using the dun trick when making a new apn. About a month and a half ago, boost forced my phone randomly to connect to a tower that was less efficient. I went from 70mbps down and 10mbps up and 5bar signal to 6mbps down and less than 1 mbps up. My bar strength was at a constant 2/3 and the connection would constantly fluctuate, but I was still able to use the hotspot if I could find a spot in my home the connection would work.
Boost wouldnt correct this issue, and after all the troubleshooting with no solution, I switched to metro a few days ago. No part of me was concerned I would be losing something doing this. I had no clue, but assumed it would be fine.
My connection is 5 bars, lte, speeds are not what I hoped but upload speed is very solid. However, the hotspot will no longer connect my devices to the internet. I only use my xbox one and although it will connect to the hotspot, it will not share the internet. I spent a few hours trying to do several things, including using adb shell to change the dun value to 0. I would appreciate any advice, because where I live has no internet options and I'm freaking out as this was all I had and now its not working despite me doing everything right. I even tried using pdanet and making my computer a hotspot, but a double nat on my xbox isnt enough to let me connect to games, just gives me about 5mbps down and 1 mbps up.
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I would contact your provider and ask to make sure that your phone is compatable with all of the services they have.
Because it is a Verizon phone originally (and even though network unlocked) it may not be able to connect to Metro's systems if it is using verizon's configuration for hotspot. If customer service confirms that a BYOD can use hotspot features, your phone is compatable, your line is properly configured for (and is actually supposed to have) hotspot data access then perhaps try flashing the firmware for MetroPCS and see if that helps. I know that my sprint phone had some stuff on it that was configured for Sprint so it would have never worked even after network unlocking and using a different provider. Flashing the phone with T-Mobile firmware solved that problem...
scottusa2008 said:
I would contact your provider and ask to make sure that your phone is compatable with all of the services they have.
Because it is a Verizon phone originally (and even though network unlocked) it may not be able to connect to Metro's systems if it is using verizon's configuration for hotspot. If customer service confirms that a BYOD can use hotspot features, your phone is compatable, your line is properly configured for (and is actually supposed to have) hotspot data access then perhaps try flashing the firmware for MetroPCS and see if that helps. I know that my sprint phone had some stuff on it that was configured for Sprint so it would have never worked even after network unlocking and using a different provider. Flashing the phone with T-Mobile firmware solved that problem...
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I should clarify that I did have access, I just hit the data cap. None of the steps I used helped me to use my hotspot after the data limit for metro
Nowayyy said:
I should clarify that I did have access, I just hit the data cap. None of the steps I used helped me to use my hotspot after the data limit for metro
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So you hit a hotspot data cap with MetroPCS and you want to bypass/circumvent that so you can continue to use the hotspot?
If the above is correct then you essentially won't get any help here because of what your asking to do..
Whether or not anyone agrees/disagrees with the data cap you paid for a service that gives you a set amount of gigabytes for hotspot use. Attempting to bypass/circumvent that data cap so you can use more then what was included in the service can be construed as theft.
Either purchase additional buckets of data for use, wait until the data cap resets or find a better provider that offers you a larger (or unlimited) amount of data for use with hotspot functionality.
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So you hit a hotspot data cap with MetroPCS and you want to bypass/circumvent that so you can continue to use the hotspot?
If the above is correct then you essentially won't get any help here because of what your asking to do..
Whether or not anyone agrees/disagrees with the data cap you paid for a service that gives you a set amount of gigabytes for hotspot use. Attempting to bypass/circumvent that data cap so you can use more then what was included in the service can be construed as theft.
Either purchase additional buckets of data for use, wait until the data cap resets or find a better provider that offers you a larger (or unlimited) amount of data for use with hotspot functionality.
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I could post atleast 10 other threads on xda specifically showing people how to do what I'm asking, but I'm not really asking for your permission my friend, just anyone's advice if they know why I was never affected on boost when using dun in my apn, but dun and adb shell editing didnt work with metro, and what I could do about it.
Nowayyy said:
I could post atleast 10 other threads on xda specifically showing people how to do what I'm asking, but I'm not really asking for your permission my friend, just anyone's advice if they know why I was never affected on boost when using dun in my apn, but dun and adb shell editing didnt work with metro, and what I could do about it.
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While it maybe true other threads on the subject, that doesn't mean they (or you) are in the right either. I was just stating a fact that what your trying to do can be construed as theft.
Within regards to why you essentially won't get much help here because of what your trying to do, I should have been more clear on the meaning behind that. Essentially the problem is how the provider detects and/or handles hotspot data. In this case it is obvious that MetroPCS has a different method for handling and/or detecting hotspot data use then Boost Mobile. I am not sure if anyone here would have the technical insight on what one does over the other as far as hotspot data... Granted it is always a possibility someone does, but I haven't seen many posts that indicate discussions go into those kinds of discussions.
I am poking around on the internet to see if I can find something that gives more technical details on how MetroPCS and Boost deal with hotspot data. Given that I currently have a severe thunderstorm in my area I don't know how much I can get accomplished before the power goes out (it's a pretty nasty storm).