im rooting a friends tbolt, it meets all the requirements, but i dont get root access, busybox installed but no root. any ideas? SU is in the app list but it doesnt work. this process worked flawlessy on my tbolt. and all matched up, and compatible version
T41NT204 said:
im rooting a friends tbolt, it meets all the requirements, but i dont get root access, busybox installed but no root. any ideas? SU is in the app list but it doesnt work. this process worked flawlessy on my tbolt. and all matched up, and compatible version
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SU is in the app list, as in the App Drawer? You mean SuperUser if that's what you're talking about. SuperUser is the GUI interface to the actual su binary.
The su binary (which should be located in /system/bin on the phone) is the actual file that grants root access rights. Can you confirm that that file has actually been installed and what its permissions are?
Will the SuperUser app let you download/update su? Also, you should be able to install it from CWM under the extras menu if I recall correctly.
My phone's not handy to confirm above, I'm doing by memory, which isn't so great these days, but hopefully this will give you some ideas of what's wrong.
distortedloop said:
SU is in the app list, as in the App Drawer? You mean SuperUser if that's what you're talking about. SuperUser is the GUI interface to the actual su binary.
The su binary (which should be located in /system/bin on the phone) is the actual file that grants root access rights. Can you confirm that that file has actually been installed and what its permissions are?
Will the SuperUser app let you download/update su? Also, you should be able to install it from CWM under the extras menu if I recall correctly.
My phone's not handy to confirm above, I'm doing by memory, which isn't so great these days, but hopefully this will give you some ideas of what's wrong.
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i cant atm i dont have his phone. SU (superuser) is in the list, and it told me it was up-to-date when i tried updating it.
CWM? thats new to me atm
root checker sees busybox, but reports not rooted.
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is there any way to use the new super su instead of superuser?? how do i get rid of the superuser app?? thanks!
Install SuperSU from the market, then run it a popup will come up asking to update binary say yes.
Then use a file manager to go to /system/app and delete SuperUser.apk
After that the system will use supersu for everything asking you to grant permission just like superuser.
smokin1337 said:
Install SuperSU from the market, then run it a popup will come up asking to update binary say yes.
Then use a file manager to go to /system/app and delete SuperUser.apk
After that the system will use supersu for everything asking you to grant permission just like superuser.
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good looks bro.. worked perfect!!!!
evod3 said:
good looks bro.. worked perfect!!!!
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Simply , you should have went to the official xda thread of super su by chain fire and should have flashed the zip. The zips removes the super user and replace it with super su
evo401 said:
is there any way to use the new super su instead of superuser?? how do i get rid of the superuser app?? thanks!
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Here is how I replaced SuperUser with SuperSU. It is really easy to do!
Just follow the steps and you'll be up and running with SuperSU in a couple of minutes!
If you do not have "Root Explorer", any file manager with Root access will work.
Just make sure that it has Write access to the System partition. Even when in
Root Explorer, I think you have to turn this feature on. Not sure. Just check.
1) Use Root Explorer and delete SuperUser.Apk from the /system/app folder.
2) Go to the Android Market and download and install Super User.
3) Use Root Explorer again and delete SU from /system/bin.
4) Go to the Market and uninstall Super User.
5) Go to the Market and install SuperSU & Pro Key.
Zeuszoos said:
Here is how I replaced SuperUser with SuperSU. It is really easy to do!
Just follow the steps and you'll be up and running with SuperSU in a couple of minutes!
If you do not have "Root Explorer", any file manager with Root access will work.
Just make sure that it has Write access to the System partition. Even when in
Root Explorer, I think you have to turn this feature on. Not sure. Just check.
1) Use Root Explorer and delete SuperUser.Apk from the /system/app folder.
2) Go to the Android Market and download and install Super User.
3) Use Root Explorer again and delete SU from /system/bin.
4) Go to the Market and uninstall Super User.
5) Go to the Market and install SuperSU & Pro Key.
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Wrong! Now you cannot grant root access to any app since you don't have the binary.
If you do the 3rd step you will lose root and you will have to root your phone again from recovery.
The correct step should be to just download supersu from play store and update the binary then remove the old superuser apk as smokin1337 said. Your steps are lengthy and will never work.
Or just flash the zip file.
Zeuszoos said:
Originally Posted by Zeuszoos
Here is how I replaced SuperUser with SuperSU. It is really easy to do!
Just follow the steps and you'll be up and running with SuperSU in a couple of minutes!
If you do not have "Root Explorer", any file manager with Root access will work. Just make sure that it has Write access to the System partition. Even when in Root Explorer, I think you have to turn this feature on. Not sure. Just check.
1) Use Root Explorer and delete SuperUser.Apk from the /system/app folder.
2) Go to the Android Market and download and install Super User.
3) Use Root Explorer again and delete SU from /system/bin.
4) Go to the Market and uninstall Super User.
5) Go to the Market and install SuperSU & Pro Key.
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mnomaanw said:
Wrong! Now you cannot grant root access
to any app since you don't have the binary. If you do the 3rd step you will
lose root and you will have to root your phone again from recovery.
The correct step should be to just download supersu from play store
and update the binary then remove the old superuser apk as smokin1337 said.
Your steps are lengthy and will never work.
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First off, I don't understand the hostility.
Secondly, I'm not the one who's wrong. You are, sir. And I find it pretty arrogant for someone to be so rude and make such a statement to someone as if iwhat they're saying is a fact, when the person they're commenting to just finished stating that they had already done it. Don't ya think?
Or did you not read the part where I said, "This is how I DID IT."???
In fact, I had just finished performing these same steps on my "Samsung Galaxy Note 2" and my "Samsung Galaxy Galaxy Tablet", not an hour before I posted them here and guuess what? I have Root access on both and no recovery was necessary!
Now you can continue making the same claim if you wish. Or you can acknowledge that "I did it successfully" outranks you saying "it won't work".
The steps I posted above work just fine. You don't have to worry about losing Root access when you boot your device, because you never reboot your phone before SuperSU is on it and you have the binary installed again. I mean, what do you think SuperSU puts on your phone? Could it be a binary, hello??? <lol>
Of course, the one thing to note is whether you have it installed in /bin or /xbin. If you don't find "su" in /bin then you now know where to look.
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First off, I don't understand the hostility.
Secondly, I'm not the one who's wrong. You are, sir. And I find it pretty arrogant for someone to be so rude and make such a statement to someone as if iwhat they're saying is a fact, when the person they're commenting to just finished stating that they had already done it. Don't ya think?
Or did you not read the part where I said, "This is how I DID IT."???
In fact, I had just finished performing these same steps on my "Samsung Galaxy Note 2" and my "Samsung Galaxy Galaxy Tablet", not an hour before I posted them here and guuess what? I have Root access on both and no recovery was necessary!
Now you can continue making the same claim if you wish. Or you can acknowledge that "I did it successfully" outranks you saying "it won't work".
The steps I posted above work just fine. You don't have to worry about losing Root access when you boot your device, because you never reboot your phone before SuperSU is on it and you have the binary installed again. I mean, what do you think SuperSU puts on your phone? Could it be a binary, hello??? <lol>
Of course, the one thing to note is whether you have it installed in /bin or /xbin. If you don't find "su" in /bin then you now know where to look.
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Oh ok I did not want to sound rude sorry.
I was under the impression that deleting su binary will not allow the supersu to install its su binary, but yeah if you have mounted the system rw then supersu should be able to install the binary. And your method should work without doing the 2nd and 4th step I guess. If you have more devices then maybe give it a try without doing 2nd and 4th step.
mnomaanw said:
Oh ok I did not want to sound rude sorry.
I was under the impression that deleting su binary will not allow the supersu to install its su binary, but yeah if you have mounted the system rw then supersu should be able to install the binary. And your method should work without doing the 2nd and 4th step I guess. If you have more devices then maybe give it a try without doing 2nd and 4th step.
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No problem.
As for mounting it read/write, yes, that does need to be done. I should have included that. Thanks for noting it.
There is a utility that will mount your system partition as writable when you boot it up. It's called "mount r/w" or something like that. It's in the Google Play Market. I think it has an icon of a yellow folder with a lock, or something like that. Most people recommend against doing that and if you don't want to do it that way, as I'm sure you know, root explorer can mount it writable until you tell it not to, or reboot..
I installed the leaked ICS update, but I have apparently lost root. I tried using Voodoo, but it just says that it has been denied Superuser permissions and that there is no root backup available.
So I tried just plain rooting it using the Motofail method again, to no avail. It says that it is successful in completing the exploit.
However, no matter what app that requires root that I open, it says that the app has been denied Superuser permissions without even prompting me. Root checker says I am not rooted.
I went into the Superuser app, and I went to update the SU Binary. It says that Superuser has been granted Superuser permissions. But then it fails out at the end and says "This updater cannot update the su binary on phones that have some kind of write protection like S-ON. You can continue to use Superuser with your outdated binary, or update su with ROM manager."
I shouldn't even need to update the binary though, since it says I have the latest one installed.
What can/should I do? It's getting kind of annoying not having root on my phone.
Something along the same line happened to me too bro,I also made a thread about it but to no avail:-/ if you find something out,let me know and I'll do the same.
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kevintstephens said:
I installed the leaked ICS update, but I have apparently lost root. I tried using Voodoo, but it just says that it has been denied Superuser permissions and that there is no root backup available.
So I tried just plain rooting it using the Motofail method again, to no avail. It says that it is successful in completing the exploit.
However, no matter what app that requires root that I open, it says that the app has been denied Superuser permissions without even prompting me. Root checker says I am not rooted.
I went into the Superuser app, and I went to update the SU Binary. It says that Superuser has been granted Superuser permissions. But then it fails out at the end and says "This updater cannot update the su binary on phones that have some kind of write protection like S-ON. You can continue to use Superuser with your outdated binary, or update su with ROM manager."
I shouldn't even need to update the binary though, since it says I have the latest one installed.
What can/should I do? It's getting kind of annoying not having root on my phone.
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Try this on ics terminal
Code:
./system/su-backup
mount -o remount,rw /dev/block/system /system
rm /system/bin/su
ln -s /system/su-backup /system/bin/su
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This also happened to me, and ive had no luck rooting either. I used the terminal trick and it says theres nothing to recover i su.
mcnabb311 said:
This also happened to me, and ive had no luck rooting either. I used the terminal trick and it says theres nothing to recover i su.
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Of course, you need a su bkp first.
Here's mine
http://db.tt/L9TLf2xg
Cheers
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Thanks alot, i must try this.
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So if you dont have root access, will the terminal move the unzipped su file? How can you apply this to your sysytem? Voodoo doesnt give you options to search for the file either. Of course, nothing has superuser permissions without root either. I guess Im too much of a n00b.
Same here
Na dude its not noobish,im tryna figure out everything myself,I've been flashing since the hd2,so i know a couple things but this is just mind boggeling lol
I'm at a loss. I've downloaded your su-backup file, but I don't know how to move it to the /system folder, as it is write protected, and I don't have root to bypass that. And whenever I tried typing things in using the terminal, it just denied everything.
kevintstephens said:
I'm at a loss. I've downloaded your su-backup file, but I don't know how to move it to the /system folder, as it is write protected, and I don't have root to bypass that. And whenever I tried typing things in using the terminal, it just denied everything.
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You can't move this file to system folder because you have a non-rooted device. Be patient, we are working hard on that....
I should have replied to the SuperSU thread but since I have less than 10 posts...
I was doing a fresh flash/install. The first thing to do of course is to root the phone.
Installed SuperSU 0.94, open it up, says that I need to update the binary, clicked OK, Installation Failed, tried that several times via 3G/Wifi.
Tested under Better Terminal, typed su: not found.
Then I installed Superuser 3.1.3, run SuperSU again and the binary update worked.
Tested under Better Terminal, typed su: # it worked.
Uninstalled Superuser and tested under Better Terminal
SU gone again.
The binary update failure happened before when version<0.7.3.
So why is this? Why do I need to install Superuser to get SuperSU to work?
It depends on what su binary is installed when you root your phone or what app the author of the ROM prefers. You can download the supersu zip package and install it after you install a ROM but even then you'll have to update binary via launching the app itself.
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Because every app that uses Superuser permissions needs a a management app to get access to su.
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Leviathan26 said:
Because every app that uses Superuser permissions needs a a management app to get access to su.
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Oh, by Supuruser I'm talking about Superuser - the old app, not the superuser permission.
evonc said:
It depends on what su binary is installed when you root your phone
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Yep, you're right, I was just stupid not paying attention to the bat root script. I removed the old Superuser.apk from the scirpt but not the binary.
When I replaced the su with SuperSU binary, no errors anymore. Thanks.
recently bought was what supposed to be new lg g2. discovered it was rooted. have no need for root access at this time. is SuperSU the easiest way to "unroot"? it's already an installed app. thanks
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I don't know what is the right way. Maybe other people will help you.
mhale14 said:
recently bought was what supposed to be new lg g2. discovered it was rooted. have no need for root access at this time. is SuperSU the easiest way to "unroot"? it's already an installed app. thanks
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SuperSU app isn't what grants you and/or apps superuser ( aka root ) rights: it's an app that stores in a database the apps you have granted root thus you don't get prompted everytime, It's the Android executable named su.
You at any time can uninstall both. The su binary typically is located in folder /system/xbin and/or folder /system/bin
I rooted my strange tablet using Kingo and apparently it was succesful:
http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t539/talos910/Screenshot_2015-09-11-17-08-20_zpsurdgzj8p.png
But I have been trying for days to erase a file in /system and I have not been able to do it, I think I have read every relevant thread about this problem but no luck, I tried using ES and changed /system to r/w in the root options but when trying to delete the file all I get is operation failed, the same happens with all the other root explorers and tools. I even tried the solution on this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/ascend-p7/help/edit-replace-write-files-set-immutable-t2884172
but still can't delete it.
Also the app root toolkit for android gives me this weird error too:
http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t539/talos910/Screenshot_2015-09-11-17-08-06_zps4nrxqiev.png
http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t539/talos910/Screenshot_2015-09-11-17-08-02_zpsa1ycwdwl.png
Do you have an app like root explorer that specifically asks for root permissions? It doesn't matter if you have root if the explorer can't use it
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Yes all the file manager apps I used always ask for root permission, that is the problem they have root permission but still can't delete the file, which is weird because I can use apps that definitely need root like scr screen recorder and greenify just fine.
Try installing root explorer and then attempt to delete the file, then it should instantly open a window asking for root. The of course grant the permission. That should always work, but if it doesn't just restart the tablet, if it still doesn't work it must mean you are deleting a file that is in use by the system. Otherwise i have no idea whats wrong
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Talos91 said:
Yes all the file manager apps I used always ask for root permission, that is the problem they have root permission but still can't delete the file, which is weird because I can use apps that definitely need root like scr screen recorder and greenify just fine.
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What recovery did you install...twrp, cwm, philz?
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JMink said:
What recovery did you install...twrp, cwm, philz?
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Rooted my device using kingo root, I didn't intall other recovery.
Bad idea to try and remove system files without a custom recovery and a nandroid backup made and stored in a safe spot. What are you trying to remove?
I am trying to delete /system/sbin/su because I read in another thread this was the solution to fixing the issue of the app supersu not updating binaries when rooting your device using Kingo.
Talos91 said:
I am trying to delete /system/sbin/su because I read in another thread this was the solution to fixing the issue of the app supersu not updating binaries when rooting your device using Kingo.
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That is the binary. If you remove it, you wouldn't be rooted. Can you link the thread you are looking at? There's an app made specifically for replacing that su binary with SuperSU and it's binary called Super-SUme, though I believe it is a paid app.
I know it is the binary but according to this guy:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/support-update-failures-t2907365/page23
(post 223)
""It appears kango wrote to /system/sbin/su whereas supersu wrote /system/xbin/su and subsequently supersu would keep wanting to update 'su' then fail.
The long and the short of it is once I manually removed /system/sbin/su supersu stopped telling me 'su' was outdated. I don't know android but I do know linux.
$PATH on my tablet has /system/sbin/ prior to /system/xbin/ so it would appear supersu is issuing 'su -V' as opposed to '/system/xbin/su -V' when it checks the version. The kingo 'su' was older than the supersu 'su'.
Dunno what the solution is 'cos the older 'su' is going to get called first & I figure there's nothing but trouble to be gained from changing $PATH globally. Nevertheless it might be enough to check $PATH for unwanted 'su' and flag them, possibly offer to remove them? In my case I renamed it "/system/sbin/su.ORIGINAL" so that it's still runnable in an emergency"""
If you rename it, it won't be able to run, and won't require removal.
That's the thing I can't rename the file either for some reason. Using es and other root explorers doesn’t work.
Talos91 said:
That's the thing I can't rename the file either for some reason. Using es and other root explorers doesn’t work.
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Seems like the SU binary that Kingroot included is pretty finicky and only works for some things. I've rooted 100s of devices and have never had issues like that. Have seen complaints about other various oddities with Kingroot too. It's nice that it's easy and works on a variety of devices, but if you have only limited control then that kind of defeats part of the purpose of rooting it...
Tried using SuperSUme but the app says I am not rooted with Kingo? wtf? Do you guys know of any other reason why i can't erase the system file sbin/su?
Talos91 said:
Tried using SuperSUme but the app says I am not rooted with Kingo? wtf? Do you guys know of any other reason why i can't erase the system file sbin/su?
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With Root Explorer, does it let you set the system to R/W? There's a little button at the top of the app that will say R/O or R/W for Read Only or Read Write. If you don't have R/W to the system, then you are unable to make changes to it.
I just renamed file su and then it became able to be deleted.
Talos91 said:
Tried using SuperSUme but the app says I am not rooted with Kingo? wtf? Do you guys know of any other reason why i can't erase the system file sbin/su?
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Connect your android tablet device to your windows computer. Then enable usb debugging on your android tablet. Then open the windows program called cmd. Then do these commands.
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adb root
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adb remount
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adb shell rm /system/sbin/su