I know this probably has been asked a few hundred times, but for some reason I couldn't find the thread anymore that I remembered.
Currently running GSB v2.5 | GingerBread 2.3.3 [CM7.0.0 RC4 NIGHTLY].
Can someone link me to the thread that had a list of apps that are safe to move? Just can't seem to find it.
Also under:
Settings >> CyanogenMod settings >> Application >>
1.) Allow application moving >>
Does this need to be checked? I do not want to move apps that don't support to be moved or have trouble running from the sd card (such as apps with widgets, system apps, social media etc.)
2.) Install location >>
It gives me the option of automatic, internal and external.
If I check "automatic" and download/install a new app, will it automatically go to the sd card if the app supports it?
Moving apps via: "Settings >> Applications >> Manage Applications >> Move to SD card"
is ok or is there a different method I should be using?
Thanks in advance.
Neera said:
I know this probably has been asked a few hundred times, but for some reason I couldn't find the thread anymore that I remembered.
Currently running GSB v2.5 | GingerBread 2.3.3 [CM7.0.0 RC4 NIGHTLY].
Can someone link me to the thread that had a list of apps that are safe to move? Just can't seem to find it.
Also under:
Settings >> CyanogenMod settings >> Application >>
1.) Allow application moving >>
Does this need to be checked? I do not want to move apps that don't support to be moved or have trouble running from the sd card (such as apps with widgets, system apps, social media etc.)
2.) Install location >>
It gives me the option of automatic, internal and external.
If I check "automatic" and download/install a new app, will it automatically go to the sd card if the app supports it?
Moving apps via: "Settings >> Applications >> Manage Applications >> Move to SD card"
is ok or is there a different method I should be using?
Thanks in advance.
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I'll just address the questions that I have answers to, of course.
1. Yes, you should check Application Moving. I've found that even with Titanium Backup's "Restore to original location" checked, that it won't put apps on the SD card unless CyanogenMod Application Moving is turned on.
2. I have External selected by default, but I find that some, or possibly all installations don't respect this anyway. I use a free version of a market app called Install Manager for root users, which then prompts me (not for market installs for some reason, but for side-loading apps from the SD card) for where to install stuff.
I don't know what Automatic does; I assumed it might install apps which at least officially are able to be located on the SD card. FYI you can manually (at least with that CyanogenMod Application Moving checked) move some apps than can't officially be able to be moved, and Titanium Backup (Under Menu/Batch) can move almost all apps, it seems, and they function fine AFAIK.
Once I backup with TB, restores (with that option in TB to restore to original location checked) go back to where I already moved the apps, no matter what the method.
3. Yes, you can move apps using the built in Android App Manager, or there are market apps to help, too. I use a combination of apps depending on what works best at the time. The afformentioned Install Manager and AntTek App Manager. There is also an Apps2SD Pro, which doesn't improve Apps2SD, it's just another interface for moving the apps around. I don't know if there's a free version. I think you can use Install Manager even after the app is already installed to move things around.
SD Apps not reappearing on home screen after reboot
Hello,
roirraW "edor" ehT: First of all - thanks for all of your input on these forums, many great ideas and answers coming from you - much appreciated!
Wondering if this topic has anything to do with an issue I have noticed now on GSB 2.7 and 2.8. After rebooting, and after all of the apps saved on my SD show up on my home screens (going from the generic green android icon to the app's icon), there have been 2 occasions where one of the apps never appears. The generic green android icon sits there instead. When I click it just states the app does not exist (that's a paraphrase). So it appears that the app is never pulled in from the SD card back to the home screen.
I updated my CM7 and TB settings after reading your comments, so this may have already fixed the issue going forward, I don't know.
Any thoughts? Hope my scenario makes sense!
Thanks!
ozzyager said:
Hello,
roirraW "edor" ehT: First of all - thanks for all of your input on these forums, many great ideas and answers coming from you - much appreciated!
Wondering if this topic has anything to do with an issue I have noticed now on GSB 2.7 and 2.8. After rebooting, and after all of the apps saved on my SD show up on my home screens (going from the generic green android icon to the app's icon), there have been 2 occasions where one of the apps never appears. The generic green android icon sits there instead. When I click it just states the app does not exist (that's a paraphrase). So it appears that the app is never pulled in from the SD card back to the home screen.
I updated my CM7 and TB settings after reading your comments, so this may have already fixed the issue going forward, I don't know.
Any thoughts? Hope my scenario makes sense!
Thanks!
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Thanks and your welcome! Maybe others can donate to the devs for me since I never have any money to. Are you absolutely sure the affected app was successfully moved to the SD card? Some apps, no matter what method, will never move to the SD card. I haven't found many after all methods have been used (Titanium Backup batch moving for the most part), but there are some.
Yes - I am sure. One of them was the XDA premium app. It would reappear reboot after reboot on my home page, but then it suddenly didn't one time. I had another app do the same thing. It seems to be a random issue. It still shows up in my list of applications and shows as being on the SD card. So I simply removed the vacant android icon and put the apps back on the homepage. Not really a big deal, was just curious if anyone else had seen this issue.
Thanks again!
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I wanted to ask how people manage their storage on their A101 efficiently. I have noticed that my system storage fills up as I install new apps and I have to manually move each to internal storage to keep the A101 running smoothly. Some apps cant be moved it seems.
Is there someway of getting apps to automatically install to internal storage to make life a little easier?
If you have root (Archangel is fine) you can use Move2SD Enabler. It is available on the market. Read instructions from the link below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=720739
as you can't move apps with widgets or system apps, as they won't work properly. It has saved me lots of space on my A70.
darren1 said:
If you have root (Archangel is fine) you can use Move2SD Enabler. It is available on the market. Read instructions from the link below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=720739
as you can't move apps with widgets or system apps, as they won't work properly. It has saved me lots of space on my A70.
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Thanks Darren. I haven't gone down the Root path yet. Is there an app you can use without root that will do the job?
Try App 2 SD from the market
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.a0soft.gphone.app2sd&feature=search_result
You can only move apps which android allows to be moved with this, but it will tell you if you can move an app when you install new ones.
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Try App 2 SD from the market
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.a0soft.gphone.app2sd&feature=search_result
You can only move apps which android allows to be moved with this, but it will tell you if you can move an app when you install new ones.
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Thanks Darren. I'll give that a go until Im brave enough to Root my Archos
Loaded App 2 SD.
Thought it was really good. Made life much easier.
However its highlighted a problem with my storage. I have posted the problem in another thread that I started a while ago here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13760143#post13760143
Perhaps you have some thoughts on it?
Pete917 said:
Loaded App 2 SD.
Thought it was really good. Made life much easier.
However its highlighted a problem with my storage. I have posted the problem in another thread that I started a while ago here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13760143#post13760143
Perhaps you have some thoughts on it?
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Replied: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13779767&postcount=12
I have rooted with no problem, but now I have 3 questions.
1) I can't get any .apk files to load. I get an error saying "This NOOK cannot read this file..."
2) in NT Settings, I can't get the unknown sources box to stay checked
3) Is there any way to put the android market apps on the home screen?
Thanks for any help!
I believe sideloading apks was blocked in 1.4.1.
Sent from my Xoom using Tapatalk
That sucks! What about putting android market apps on the main screen of the NT?
There is a Nook Color app in the Android Market that does exactly that.
dcfootqb said:
I have rooted with no problem, but now I have 3 questions.
1) I can't get any .apk files to load. I get an error saying "This NOOK cannot read this file..."
2) in NT Settings, I can't get the unknown sources box to stay checked
3) Is there any way to put the android market apps on the home screen?
Thanks for any help!
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Most of this stuff is explained elsewhere in the forums . . . I know everybody says that, but believe me, it's true!
To get you started - - you can sideload apps on any rooted Nook:
(1) Get the NT Hidden Settings app (which you have)
(2) Goto "Hacks" - - tap "Unknown Sources Hack" Hit "Back"
(3) Goto "Application Settings" - - toggle "unknown sources"
(4) reboot the Nook
(5) Check in "NT Hidden Settings" . . "Applications Settings" . . to see if "Unknown Sources" is still checked. If not, repeat the steps above.
It's not unusual for people to have to do this 2 or 3 times to get the hack to "stick". Some people swear by toggling each setting on and off a couple times before rebooting. I know it's a PIA, but as far as I know everybody eventually get's it to 'stick' after a number of repeats.
Good news is, once you get Unknown Sources to stick, you won't have to mess with it again unless your restore to stock & re-root.
The "Nook Color Applications" app works well on the Nook Tablet, as noted above. You might also want to look at Go Launcher or ADW Launcher - they give you a new desktop with multiple home screens and other features, but still let you use the stock book reader, Netflix, etc. While some people here are using CM7 or CM9, a lot of people have really tricked-out the stock NT ROM with a 3rd-party launcher. I run mine like that, and I've actually liked it better than CM7.
But I'll switch to CM9 immediately once it's a bit more stable. ;-)
Best of luck!
awesome! I will try tonight. Right now, my two year old wont let me play with "his" nook. lol
Thanks, this forum is the best!
Hey there,
I've been having a similar problem. I recently rooted (using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1529553 method), and have been able to access the market and download apps that way, but I'm unable to sideload them. When I try to open any app it says "Unable to install. This application was not able to install onto your device. Please "Archive" and then "Unarchive" the application to try again." I have an SD card inserted, and this error comes up with the Amazon market, and the HomeCatcher app. My unknown sources box is checked though! Any help would be greatly appreciated!
-DRA
i rooted with http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1439630
but having hard time installing the CM 7 veronica did one stop CM7 ...
mezozon said:
i rooted with http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1439630
but having hard time installing the CM 7 veronica did one stop CM7 ...
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I believe veronica is currently recommending the "new" beta ( internal only for now ) made by CelticWebSolutions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22199348&postcount=1
timpilcher said:
Most of this stuff is explained elsewhere in the forums . . . I know everybody says that, but believe me, it's true!
To get you started - - you can sideload apps on any rooted Nook:
(1) Get the NT Hidden Settings app (which you have)
(2) Goto "Hacks" - - tap "Unknown Sources Hack" Hit "Back"
(3) Goto "Application Settings" - - toggle "unknown sources"
(4) reboot the Nook
(5) Check in "NT Hidden Settings" . . "Applications Settings" . . to see if "Unknown Sources" is still checked. If not, repeat the steps above.
It's not unusual for people to have to do this 2 or 3 times to get the hack to "stick". Some people swear by toggling each setting on and off a couple times before rebooting. I know it's a PIA, but as far as I know everybody eventually get's it to 'stick' after a number of repeats.
Good news is, once you get Unknown Sources to stick, you won't have to mess with it again unless your restore to stock & re-root.
The "Nook Color Applications" app works well on the Nook Tablet, as noted above. You might also want to look at Go Launcher or ADW Launcher - they give you a new desktop with multiple home screens and other features, but still let you use the stock book reader, Netflix, etc. While some people here are using CM7 or CM9, a lot of people have really tricked-out the stock NT ROM with a 3rd-party launcher. I run mine like that, and I've actually liked it better than CM7.
But I'll switch to CM9 immediately once it's a bit more stable.
Best of luck!
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When a rebooted like 5 times it still the same thing unchecked.
To make sure How Do Your reboot?
miguelnook said:
When a rebooted like 5 times it still the same thing unchecked.
To make sure How Do Your reboot?
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If you want to have Google play installed the easiest process to do now is to make a boot able cm SD card. CM10+ is the most recent so I recommend using it. There are also SDC versions of cm7 and 9. These don't affect your internal storage at all so the level of caution for bricking is low.
If you want to look into these SDC ROMs head over to the iamafanof site. There are links to the ROms and further instructions on how to create the cards.
I have the CM10 [skang jellybro] fascinate rom installed, and coming from a cm9 rom, all my apps didn't fit because they switched the partition around [making the app partition only 468MB, and the system partition 1.5 GB].
So anyway I had to move a lot of apps to the sdcard. So I just downloaded a newer version of my rom, and wiped cache/dalvik, nandroid backup, then I installed the new zip.
Then I rebooted, and it had to 'optimize' apps [create dalvik cache?] and after that finished...I only had about 15-20 apps show up in my app drawer. [I have probably around 40] So I clicked on Zedge, on my homescreen, and it said "App isn't installed." I then started to worry..:S I googled apps on sdcard disappearing.. and so I opened titanium backup, and under Batch operations, it said "Restore missing apps (6)," and they were 6 apps that I'd uninstalled but didn't delete the backup. so then I wasn't sure what to do next, because I did not create a fresh titanium backup prior to updating my rom [because I did a nandroid instead..] so then I went to Manage Apps, and then.. for some reason, all my apps showed up again! all the ones on my sdcard.
I tapped Zedge again on my homescreen, and it loaded up! So my question is, what happened? Why did my apps disappear, and then just show up again? was it loading titanium backup? or did the rom just scan the sdcard for apps?
Sounds like it just messed up the media scan of the sdcard which I have heard happens from time to time... not sure if that's related to your issue, but now are all your apps installed or are you still missing some? Next time I would just reboot again and let it re-scan to see if it helps
Crawshayi said:
Sounds like it just messed up the media scan of the sdcard which I have heard happens from time to time... not sure if that's related to your issue, but now are all your apps installed or are you still missing some? Next time I would just reboot again and let it re-scan to see if it helps
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ah.. yes they are all there, but I was just wondering why did they disappear, and then why did they just show up all of a sudden?
I guess if it is the media scan thing, that would explain it.
Fast Boot option may be the culprit
mvmacd said:
ah.. yes the [apps] are all there, but I was just wondering why did they disappear, and then why did they just show up all of a sudden?
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CUT TO THE SOLUTION BELOW -- SEARCH FOR ////
Some (not all) of my apps moved to SD (all by Titanium Backup Pro) have begun to disappear and (sometimes) reappear without warning after I began to add and delete large Virtual Machines created in QEMU from my 16GB SanDisc class 10 microSD card on my HTC Droid Incredible running rooted stock Verizon Android Froyo 2.2.3. I know this thread is far from my phone's "home base", but from what I can tell this problem with disappearing apps located on an sdcard is NOT determined by hardware or even Android version.
I also happen to use LauncherPro by Federico Carnales instead of the built-in HTC Sense launcher. I noted elsewhere on XDA that a user had suggested that because at least some (maybe all) launchers start before the SD Card that this may be a problem, especially if changes are made to the sdcard that the launcher did not perform, or was not active during their performance by other apps such as Titanium Backup. That fits my situation, because I unmounted the SD, physically removed it to a PC, and added/deleted large VM files to save (lots) of time. No problems of this sort before I did this, so there must be some connection.
I noted that other users have tried reformatting SD, substituting different brands of SD, using newer/older SD etc. None of these reliably helped. So I skipped these options.
//// The (simple!) solution I tried that SEEMS to work (only time will tell!) is buried in the main Android Settings (accessed from the Menu button while in Home screen). Under "Applications" there is a setting "Fast Boot" that I checked long ago and forgot about (it seemed like a good thing to do at the time). The text warns "Turn off to use some Market apps" (that shows the age of my 2-yr old used phone and Android OS -- ohmygosh!-- because it refers to Market rather than Google Play Store!) Anyway, I unchecked the option and rebooted the phone.
Yes, it took a bit longer to boot (maybe a whole minute!), but after waiting about another minute ALL my home screen apps had normal icons and loaded properly. Titanium Backup Pro batch scenarios confirmed there were no apps in a forced uninstalled state (i.e. I had not done the deed, the system somehow had done it or at least rendered the apps "invisible" to Titanium, which decided they needed reinstallation).
The only odd behaviour was that auto brightness was turned off after I unchecked Fast Boot and rebooted. Going into Android Settings > Display and rechecking "auto brightness" took care of that. No other oddities or strange behaviours thus far (but it has only been about an hour).
I will report back here on this thread only (Samsung Fascinate > Fascinate Q&A > What just happend? apps on sdcard) if anything else requires reporting. Silence implies success!
link: https://www.google.com/url?q=http:/...ds-cse&usg=AFQjCNE3D5NrpiSqCRSof-ou1mn6iyeGVg
(I am copying this original post (without edits) to other relevant threads, but will not post anything further elsewhere -- only here. This is a bit arbitrary (although this thread appears to be the most recent active one on this topic), but I hope this approach pleases the XDA sysops/admins) :angel:
EDIT 2012-12-26-a:
Nearly all of the 100+ apps on my HTC DINC (Droid Incredible) continue to behave normally after the "fast boot OFF" fix. (No disappearing act.) However, I did find one that appeared to be installed but really was not: ASTRO File Manager. I used Titanium Backup Pro to reinstall app+data from a backup. It only took a couple of minutes, and after that all went normally.
The only other noticeable issue right after the fix is that nearly all of my installed, functioning apps were listed as "missing" by Titanium Backup in its Batch scenario list (although they were NOT counted in the total number of apps listed with the scenario -- that number was 61, and it should have been nearly 170 based on the number of apps actually in the physical list). After about a day or so of regular usage, a re-check of the "missing apps" Batch scenario found all the functioning apps no longer listed; the 61 missing apps were valid -- they were all from earlier ROMs belonging to the original HTC setup and another phone (MOTO OG Droid). Since I have kept the MOTO as an emergency backup smartphone, I might conceivably want to revive some of these apps.
EDIT 12-26-b:
Some other potentially useful points I have gathered in my survey of this topic across XDA:
1. This problem happens most often when using the "Disk drive" option in the USB Debugger system app. It also happens after physically returning the sdcard to the phone after removing and inserting it into a PC.
2. Those who have wiped the app data cache also report serious problems.
3. Wiping the dalvic cache while in Recovery mode automatically triggers a rebuild of that cache, which may make apps behave oddly or disappear until the rebuild is complete, which reportedly "takes time"
Personally, I did only #1 myself, and the fast boot removal fix seems to work well for that one.
I cannot confirm the others, but they seem to make sense to me, and I doubt the fast boot removal fix would have any influence on them.
4. There are some signs that apps installed to internal phone storage can behave in the same way. This may mean that the fast boot OFF tweak may prove beneficial to any storage area, since they all come on-line after the OS loads from phone memory.
EXT4ALL (aka Convert2ext4) = final fix for dalvik cache related bugs (?)
Further investigation of the Dalvik cache reveals a significant connection between it and a number of odd and unpleasant behaviours, including Low Disk Space warnings and disappearing apps.
Fortunately, there are some excellent XDA forum threads about dealing with the Dalvik cache.
The best recent place to start seems to be here:
[Q] Incredible running CM7.2 "Low on space" message (launched 2012-12-14)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2047424
It is not because of the focus on the Droid Incredible or CyanoModGen in this thread, but the attention paid to the more universal fix "EXT4 4 ALL" aka "EXT4ALL" or "Convert2Ext4". (Thanks to Senior Member cmlusco for his post #9 on the thread that got me started in the right direction!)
Files can be found at these locations:
Goo.im site http://goo.im/devs/tiny4579/mods
DINC.does-it site http://dinc.does-it.net/EXT4_Mods/
One version of this fix (Convert2Ext4_no_data_limit_normal_dalvik.v2.0.zip) moves the Dalvik cache from the default, limited 150MB internal partition to the "unlimited" (or at least maximum) 750MB internal partition.
Any phone with a kernal installed that supports ext4 can utilise this fix.
[ I personally use gingertiny 2.6.35.14-v2+ (2012-02-13), which has supported ext4 since late 2011]
My own experience has been to flash the "no data limit normal dalvik" zip file using ClockworkMod 5.x Recovery -- this was entirely painless. I just downloaded the file into my phone's downloads folder on the sdcard using a web browser, then ran CM Recovery (with a little assist from ROM Manager), selected "install a zip from sdcard" and navigated to the file. It was all done in 5 minutes. After manually rebooting a second time, everything seems to be working normally after about half a day of regular use.
For those who flash a new or updated ROM sometime in the future, you would need to flash this fix after doing so.
There is plenty of information contained on the main threads of this topic. Links aplenty can be found; just follow the ones provided in the thread I suggest here to get started.
Hopefully, this brings an end to my struggles with my phone's storage issues, and to others of you reading this post and following the links to the threads and downloads.
FYI -- My storage values changed as follows after running the fix:
Total Internal memory: 748MB --> 770MB (22MB increase)
ROM free space: <1MB --> 20MB (close to the value change of total internal memory)
Used internal memory: ~335MB --> 464MB (close to 128MB increase)
Remaining internal memory: ~420MB --> 306MB (close to 128MB decrease)
So, it seems that my ROM was being used to cache app data, which would explain why the value kept declining even though I NEVER added anything to it (using Titanium Backup Pro or anything like it). When free space on my ROM literally ran out, Android OS hit the proverbial panic button and warned me to free 512kb minimum to allow Gmail to download new mail. Now, it has 20MB free (and will hopefully stay that way, since I NEVER intend to transfer anything into the ROM!) -- The internal memory usage jump of 128MB probably indicates the Dalvik cache.
SUMMARY:
1. Turning off "fast boot" in Android settings helps some, but it does not get to the heart of the issue. It will NOT make a Low Disk Storage warning go away.
2. Once you have a Low Disk Storage warning, you MUST uninstall enough apps to make it go away (keep track of what you take away, because you can reinstall them very soon!)
3. With no LDS warnings showing, flash the "Convert2ext4 no data limit normal dalvik" zip file. THIS APPEARS TO BE THE REAL SOLUTION!
4. Reinstall your recently removed apps, and you should be good to go! :fingers-crossed:
PS>>> One last unresolved issue: I am still unclear exactly WHERE the dalvik-cache ends up, since my Astro file browser cannot locate anything containing the word "cache" that does not now report "EMPTY". There are a large number of "com." folders containing software I have installed found in the /mnt/asec/ folder. The total size of the contents of this folder (362 MB) is within 100MB of the amount of internal memory reported in use. Does that 100MB represent the current size of the Dalvik cache files, or at least include them? If so, where are they located? If anyone can help me figure this bit out, I would be grateful! :fingers-crossed:
Hello,
I've got a huge issue with my GS2 this morning. When I woke up I've seen a warning about the SD card ("card empty or with an unknow file system" something like that if I translate from French). So I've no more access to the SD card from the phone, I'll test asap to read the card externally (I need a card reader...). But it was just the beginning, then there was an update for Titanium Backup and now it's no more working, couldn't get the SU right any more, but Super SU is still here and working. Then I shut off the phone, remove the SD card, replace it, reboot and the time/date was reset to 1.00 2000 (or something like that) inducing an error with Whatsapp. Plus within Go Launcher a lot of app went out of there folder, now I've 2 screen of unclassed app that were in different folder until yesterday.... And finally when I press power or home button to wake up the device it take like 1 full second or more to get the screen on sometimes.
This is very strange... I mean, it could only be related, no ?
Any clue of what went wrong and where to start looking for a clue ? (before the big formatting and re-installation, probably of a custom rom this time).
Config.:
Rooted Galaxy S2 I-9000 with stock rom 4.0.3
I use a lot of app but major one are Go Launcher, Titanium Backup (update recently), SuperSU, Lama, Droidwall, DoubleTwist (update recently).
Thanks in advance for any help
EDIT: Happen to be only an SD problem. It's readable in my computer (I've backed up what was not made already by Titanium or so) but not any more in the phone. This SD is a quite new one (2-3 months) with 32GB. However my older one (the 8GB included with the phone) is still working great.
The icon problem is related to the fact that app transfered on SD card was removed from Go Launcher then when it can read the card again (for 1 or 2 min) it adds all the app outside of these folder (bug feature from Go Launcher).
Finally Titanium root access was not really related I guess... I had to restart the phone to get a new prompt for root access then It was OK.
When I install apps on my device and move them to phone storage (/mnt/sdcard/ i believe as apps can no longer be moved to the external sd), if I restart the device any application that has been moved is gone. The icon is still there but when I select it I get a message that says "application is not installed." Verizon & HTC both told me it was an unknown issue - but it's now happened to me on 2 consecutive devices, both of which I've done a factory data reset on, and the second time I also wiped my external sd card.
Any ideas? I'd love to know if this is something I'm doing with my settings, or if my google profile is corrupt, or if this has happened to anyone other than me. Would rooting help? That's the next step anyway just to see (or S-OFF?) Thanks in advance for any responses.
Device is HTC Droid Inc. 4G / ADR6410LVW / not rooted
mdsav said:
When I install apps on my device and move them to phone storage (/mnt/sdcard/ i believe as apps can no longer be moved to the external sd), if I restart the device any application that has been moved is gone. The icon is still there but when I select it I get a message that says "application is not installed." Verizon & HTC both told me it was an unknown issue - but it's now happened to me on 2 consecutive devices, both of which I've done a factory data reset on, and the second time I also wiped my external sd card.
Any ideas? I'd love to know if this is something I'm doing with my settings, or if my google profile is corrupt, or if this has happened to anyone other than me. Would rooting help? That's the next step anyway just to see (or S-OFF?) Thanks in advance for any responses.
Device is HTC Droid Inc. 4G / ADR6410LVW / not rooted
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this sounds like your sd card is on its way out. have you tried a different card to see if its the problem? Is said card formated FAT32??
synisterwolf said:
this sounds like your sd card is on its way out. have you tried a different card to see if its the problem? Is said card formated FAT32??
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i tried deleting the external card via the phone's data reset mechanism, but haven't tried a different card yet - I didn't think that could be the issue because the apps are moved to "phone storage" not the external sd, but i will try that next.
how do i know if it's FAT32? i saw this thread for formatting and will do when i get home, but is there a way to check using the phone?
mdsav said:
i tried deleting the external card via the phone's data reset mechanism, but haven't tried a different card yet - I didn't think that could be the issue because the apps are moved to "phone storage" not the external sd, but i will try that next.
how do i know if it's FAT32? i saw this thread for formatting and will do when i get home, but is there a way to check using the phone?
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idk how to check via phone, might have an app for it.
but when you move app to sd it adds some data to .android folder that is stored on the external SD card.
try pulling everything off the card and put it on the pc, format via windows pc, then put the stuff back and try it out. if you can get a different card and try that.
I am rooted and am running CyanogenMod (0717) and my apps sometimes just disappear. I have noticed with one app in particular. My Play Music app seems to just disappear off the face of the earth (metaphorically speaking). I thought to myself, "Hmm, maybe I just uninstalled it by accident.". Because I have done some pretty crazy things while I was asleep or just plain old being me. I went to the Play Store and found it on there and I noticed that the Play Store said it wasn't installed. I went and tried to install it. I got an error code (-24). I went and researched it and it actually never disappeared. (Well kind of didn't) I went into /data/data/ and found it sitting right there. The folder to the application was still there, but it appears that the OS lost track of it. It almost seems as if it forgot it was there. (But of course that is almost impossible for a machine that is coded to do something cannot possibly forget like that. The error code I received was saying that the app folder existed and couldn't be overwritten. Sorry if I invaded in this thread, but it is just similar experience. Did you try and reinstall the missing apps and see what happened? Did you get an error code like I did? And I am assuming you are on 4.0.4 (stock) OS, yes?
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I am rooted and am running CyanogenMod (0717) and my apps sometimes just disappear. I have noticed with one app in particular. My Play Music app seems to just disappear off the face of the earth (metaphorically speaking). I thought to myself, "Hmm, maybe I just uninstalled it by accident.". Because I have done some pretty crazy things while I was asleep or just plain old being me. I went to the Play Store and found it on there and I noticed that the Play Store said it wasn't installed. I went and tried to install it. I got an error code (-24). I went and researched it and it actually never disappeared. (Well kind of didn't) I went into /data/data/ and found it sitting right there. The folder to the application was still there, but it appears that the OS lost track of it. It almost seems as if it forgot it was there. (But of course that is almost impossible for a machine that is coded to do something cannot possibly forget like that. The error code I received was saying that the app folder existed and couldn't be overwritten. Sorry if I invaded in this thread, but it is just similar experience. Did you try and reinstall the missing apps and see what happened? Did you get an error code like I did? And I am assuming you are on 4.0.4 (stock) OS, yes?
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Ok so we're going to go deep and nasty with this here. So far you've ruled out rom based issues since you've moved from the stock RUU to CM10.1nightly(I suggest running mdmowers builds honestly). I too had a weird issue with getting apps to move from "internal" to "phone" storage(both are internel to the phone, just different partiitons). The next few things are based on my dealings with embeded linux and flash hardware.
First are you using the SDcard partition swap patch supplied by jose51197? If so, this could be a wacky thing where the linkings are going bad because of a failing SDcard and that could be your problem.
Secondly, are you runnign out of space in the /mnt/secure/asec and /data/ partition and your phone is doing wacky things because of this? Check by plugging your phone into a computer with ADB installed on it and do "./adb shell df /data" and "./adb shell df /mnt/secure/asec". If they report very little space, usually apps start failing silently because they've got no space to write their added data.
If neither of these things are the case, then its the phones internal flash memory that is failing. This does happen, usually though only because of excessive writting and deleteing things(app churn, text messages with auto delete on, testing multiple roms) from the internal memory, and can only be dealt with by getting a new phone.
Best of luck.
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mdsav said:
When I install apps on my device and move them to phone storage (/mnt/sdcard/ i believe as apps can no longer be moved to the external sd), if I restart the device any application that has been moved is gone. The icon is still there but when I select it I get a message that says "application is not installed." Verizon & HTC both told me it was an unknown issue - but it's now happened to me on 2 consecutive devices, both of which I've done a factory data reset on, and the second time I also wiped my external sd card.
Any ideas? I'd love to know if this is something I'm doing with my settings, or if my google profile is corrupt, or if this has happened to anyone other than me. Would rooting help? That's the next step anyway just to see (or S-OFF?) Thanks in advance for any responses.
Device is HTC Droid Inc. 4G / ADR6410LVW / not rooted
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Which app are you trying to move first off? Have you moved them to SD successfully on other devices, if you have access to them?
vazersecurity said:
I am rooted and am running CyanogenMod (0717) and my apps sometimes just disappear. I have noticed with one app in particular. My Play Music app seems to just disappear off the face of the earth (metaphorically speaking). I thought to myself, "Hmm, maybe I just uninstalled it by accident.". Because I have done some pretty crazy things while I was asleep or just plain old being me. I went to the Play Store and found it on there and I noticed that the Play Store said it wasn't installed. I went and tried to install it. I got an error code (-24). I went and researched it and it actually never disappeared. (Well kind of didn't) I went into /data/data/ and found it sitting right there. The folder to the application was still there, but it appears that the OS lost track of it. It almost seems as if it forgot it was there. (But of course that is almost impossible for a machine that is coded to do something cannot possibly forget like that. The error code I received was saying that the app folder existed and couldn't be overwritten. Sorry if I invaded in this thread, but it is just similar experience. Did you try and reinstall the missing apps and see what happened? Did you get an error code like I did? And I am assuming you are on 4.0.4 (stock) OS, yes?
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ive seen this happen before when i move apps to sd and wipe android secure when updating roms. Is the app installed on the sd card?
synisterwolf said:
ive seen this happen before when i move apps to sd and wipe android secure when updating roms. Is the app installed on the sd card?
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jiggz88 said:
Ok so we're going to go deep and nasty with this here. So far you've ruled out rom based issues since you've moved from the stock RUU to CM10.1nightly(I suggest running mdmowers builds honestly). I too had a weird issue with getting apps to move from "internal" to "phone" storage(both are internel to the phone, just different partiitons). The next few things are based on my dealings with embeded linux and flash hardware.
First are you using the SDcard partition swap patch supplied by jose51197? If so, this could be a wacky thing where the linkings are going bad because of a failing SDcard and that could be your problem.
Secondly, are you runnign out of space in the /mnt/secure/asec and /data/ partition and your phone is doing wacky things because of this? Check by plugging your phone into a computer with ADB installed on it and do "./adb shell df /data" and "./adb shell df /mnt/secure/asec". If they report very little space, usually apps start failing silently because they've got no space to write their added data.
If neither of these things are the case, then its the phones internal flash memory that is failing. This does happen, usually though only because of excessive writting and deleteing things(app churn, text messages with auto delete on, testing multiple roms) from the internal memory, and can only be dealt with by getting a new phone.
Best of luck.
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Which app are you trying to move first off? Have you moved them to SD successfully on other devices, if you have access to them?
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No they aren't installed on the SD card and I haven't seen it happen for a couple days. But in response to jiggz88, by apps failing silently, do you mean they open and they close suddenly without notice? Or that they just don't exist. I was using the unofficial mdmower builds when CyanogenMod was going through some rough times and apps such as Play Music would close suddenly without notice. Especially when you entered My Library or Radio on it. Is that what you were referring to? Or just not showing up at all in the installed apps (or whatever).
vazersecurity said:
I am rooted and am running CyanogenMod (0717) and my apps sometimes just disappear. I have noticed with one app in particular. My Play Music app seems to just disappear off the face of the earth (metaphorically speaking). I thought to myself, "Hmm, maybe I just uninstalled it by accident.". Because I have done some pretty crazy things while I was asleep or just plain old being me. I went to the Play Store and found it on there and I noticed that the Play Store said it wasn't installed. I went and tried to install it. I got an error code (-24). I went and researched it and it actually never disappeared. (Well kind of didn't) I went into /data/data/ and found it sitting right there. The folder to the application was still there, but it appears that the OS lost track of it. It almost seems as if it forgot it was there. (But of course that is almost impossible for a machine that is coded to do something cannot possibly forget like that. The error code I received was saying that the app folder existed and couldn't be overwritten. Sorry if I invaded in this thread, but it is just similar experience. Did you try and reinstall the missing apps and see what happened? Did you get an error code like I did? And I am assuming you are on 4.0.4 (stock) OS, yes?
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that's definitely different from my issue. Play Music has never been one of the apps that disappears because I can't move it to phone storage partition at all. also not that error code, it only tells me "application is not installed" nothing else. by checking available memory it doesn't appear that the apps actually get uninstalled as no more space is available after they are magically uninstalled, it's just that the system no longer recognizes that they're there. yes stock 4.0.4 OS. when i reinstall the "missing" apps they reinstall and work just fine until the device reboots (which has happened 3x in the last 24 hrs) and then they are "gone" again. hoping to try reformatting ext sd card tonight or tomorrow if i can finish enough work first; if that doesn't work will root.
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that's definitely different from my issue. Play Music has never been one of the apps that disappears because I can't move it to phone storage partition at all. also not that error code, it only tells me "application is not installed" nothing else. by checking available memory it doesn't appear that the apps actually get uninstalled as no more space is available after they are magically uninstalled, it's just that the system no longer recognizes that they're there. yes stock 4.0.4 OS. when i reinstall the "missing" apps they reinstall and work just fine until the device reboots (which has happened 3x in the last 24 hrs) and then they are "gone" again. hoping to try reformatting ext sd card tonight or tomorrow if i can finish enough work first; if that doesn't work will root.
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Alright sorry for bloating your thread. Hope you get your problem fixed as I haven't ever experienced this issue.