ROM without Sense? - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Are there any Thunderbolt ROMs with Sense stripped out? I'm considering a move to Verizon but I'm spoiled by CM7 in my Inspire. CM7 weighs in at 80mb where the stock Sense ROM is 275mb which insane bloat. If there's a ROM without Sense I'd love to go that route.
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yes d00d......

This should have been in general
But to answer your question Tesla Coil is as close as you are going to get to a non Sense ROM at this point.

They r all sense based now. There are roms without rosie and a bunch of sense apps, but they still need sense kernels etc..
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I know you can't completely remove Sense because these a-holes have buried it pretty deeply. But there are some Sense-based ROMs for the Inspire with most of Sense stripped out. I'd be happy with something like that. Sense is a public nuisance.
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If you want a truly aosp experience you will have to wait for cm7. This is an htc branded phone so obviously they will ship it with sense. That's how they differentiate themselves. Surprised that would cause you to label them a-holes. Also please bear in mind that aosp kernels need to appear as well.
Finally, I'm surprised at how some people hate sense. Personally, I love the widgets, look and feel of sense a lot more. I find aosp roms too bare bones and homely and bereft of nice widgets etc. Sense 2.0 with phone finder, remote phone lock are really worth trying.
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khanam said:
This is an htc branded phone so obviously they will ship it with sense. That's how they differentiate themselves. Surprised that would cause you to label them a-holes. Also please bear in mind that aosp kernels need to appear as well.
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Yea, totally agree. If you dont like sense...DONT get an HTC!

The reason we cant get aosp is because the ril is screwed up. When that gets fixed we'll be able to get aosp roms
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CM will come to the thunderbolt in due time. Trust me I can't wait. And to who said "if you don't like sense don't get a HTC!" Shut up lol, some people like HTC devices and not sense....which includes my self and numerous others.
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khanam said:
If you want a truly aosp experience you will have to wait for cm7. This is an htc branded phone so obviously they will ship it with sense. That's how they differentiate themselves. Surprised that would cause you to label them a-holes. Also please bear in mind that aosp kernels need to appear as well.
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I call them a-holes because they force us to use an ugly skin that we don't like. All of these manufacturers should have a bare-bones ROM available to people who DON'T WANT their custom skin. Ship the phone with your skin but make it an option. The fact that they have added 200mb of crap is ludicrous. I get this figure from an AOSP ROM weighing in at 80MB while the stock ROM is ~275.

luniz7 said:
CM will come to the thunderbolt in due time. Trust me I can't wait. And to who said "if you don't like sense don't get a HTC!" Shut up lol, some people like HTC devices and not sense....which includes my self and numerous others.
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MANY others.

suzook said:
Yea, totally agree. If you dont like sense...DONT get an HTC!
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I disagree. We should not be forced to use a vendor's skin in order to enjoy Android. With only the Nexus phones being free from all this crap we're limited. These vendors really need to listen to the customers.

The g1 and g2 are without sense as well
Most people enjoy sense. Atleast those who know nothing of android
I prefer sense to aosp but that's my opinion, to each his own
And to say don't buy a HTC phone because u don't like sense is stupid, I buy HTC phones for the build quality and great over all.phones
My last 5 phones were HTC phones and I plan to keep this trend going
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HTC Sense on Vibrant?

Is it possible?
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No it is not.
There are a lot of things out that there that replicate what it does, but do officially port it over would pose some serious legal issues.
Also, why would you want sense? There is plenty out there that tops it.
And, for future reference, please search a topic before posting a question about it.
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Is it possible?
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I'm looking for it too! I guess since it has to do with a lot of legal actions we wont find it on here but it would be nice to have the desire HD rom on the vibrant since we may not see that phone in the US unless we get the overseas version that doesn't even work with our 3g or hspa
What Legal Issues? I didn't know about that.
And What Are Other Thing's That Top HTC Sense? Because TW isn't one of them.
chris279m said:
What Legal Issues? I didn't know about that.
And What Are Other Thing's That Top HTC Sense? Because TW isn't one of them.
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Ive heard it from some of the members I honestly don't think its true but they keep saying if they were to do it it would be considered as warez but they don't have to post a download they can post a link to where its at!!! I myself have wondered how to do it.
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No it is not.
There are a lot of things out that there that replicate what it does, but do officially port it over would pose some serious legal issues.
Also, why would you want sense? There is plenty out there that tops it.
And, for future reference, please search a topic before posting a question about it.
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nothing comes close to the HTC Sense if your talking about launcher pro no its not all it does is change the icons and also there is someone working on it now from what Ive received a message from if you dont like the idea of it dont respond with smart comments stick with what you have.
There is nothing that tops HTC Sense right now name one? you cant at all! and nothing on the Vibrant tops what HTC has I like using my HD2 sometimes cause I cant stand the TW I love the HTC Sense and the new features the New desire hd has!!!!
dc8783 said:
nothing comes close to the HTC Sense if your talking about launcher pro no its not all it does is change the icons and also there is someone working on it now from what Ive received a message from if you dont like the idea of it dont respond with smart comments stick with what you have.
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lol, I wasn't making a "smart comment". I was stating that facts.
As of right now there is no sense for the Vibrant.
HTC sense is made for HTC phones, and it will take a while before a stable release if released, if ever.
Also, the code for sense is owned by HTC, so using it without there consent and porting it over to another phone is illegal, even though nobody cares too much.
And, LauncherPro is amazing. What exactly do you want from sense that you can't get on your Vibrant otherwise?
And, nice triple post.
HTC Sense is not gpl or apache licensed. It is intellectual property of HTC. Try to get a port going if you want but it won't fly here on XDA.
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If you want sense just use the launcher I posted. Its close enough.
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I want ot know what sense offers also, that you cant get with LP or ADW.
intruda119 said:
I want ot know what sense offers also, that you cant get with LP or ADW.
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yeah, seriously.
A lot of people with sense switch over to a 3rd party launcher.
There is just some fascination that people having with *HTC Sense*. Not that great of a interface imo.
Fyi, this is being worked on in the galaxy s forum.. Once its working on there we can try to get a port on our vibrants.
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Alex530 said:
If you want sense just use the launcher I posted. Its close enough.
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What did you post? Where did you postt it?
chris279m said:
What did you post? Where did you postt it?
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Seems as there's another thread on this. Look at my previous posts. You'll find it there.
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nearblack said:
I don't really understand what you are trying to say... And I don't really understand why you are so angry...
I agree this phone is really, really rough if you are on stock.
But after flashing the Bionix ROM, I feel as though my vibrant is smoother than almost any other phone out there..
Accept that sense probably isn't being ported to the Vibrant for a while, and settle the **** down.
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I am fine I had bionix i was looking for something better there wont be any choices for a while but all im saying is u dont have be smart mouthed n stfd was even worse lol
There is a lot I like about the HTC sense its really unique and I tried adw and LP it just doesn't feel the same it feels plain to me.
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To Alex530. I looked everywhere and couldn't fine the post anywhere. Can you post a link or something? Cause I'm really intrusted.
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I like sense
I have a hd2 with froyo and chukky as a back up and there are some thing i do like about sense. But..... porting over would have too many conflicts and it would not run the same. be patient, the Vibrant is a good base phone there will be enough done in this forum to make the desire to have Sense not make any more sense
Here you go. Complimentary screenie

Info on Sense 4.0 which will be atop 4.0.3

http://androidandme.com/2012/01/news/htc-sense-4-0-hands-on-report-reveals-new-features-for-htcs-custom-ui/\
New info regarding the replacement for the interim "Sense 3.6" we have in the latest leaks. Sounds like a serious improvement over the past UIs.
That sounds awesome...though I really hope they keep the menu button with the capacitive buttons, I would really miss that...
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Deathbyfugu said:
http://androidandme.com/2012/01/news/htc-sense-4-0-hands-on-report-reveals-new-features-for-htcs-custom-ui/\
New info regarding the replacement for the interim "Sense 3.6" we have in the latest leaks. Sounds like a serious improvement over the past UIs.
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thanks for the site..
this is the best feature for me on sense 4.0
*Beats Audio profile updated to work with third party applications*
I really kinda just wish sense would die. =\
a.mcdear said:
I really kinda just wish sense would die. =\
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Or at least slim down... the added functionality is nice. It is the bloat and battery killing parts I want gone.
Marine6680 said:
Or at least slim down... the added functionality is nice. It is the bloat and battery killing parts I want gone.
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Exactly.
Sense is far too intensive on the CPU.
a.mcdear said:
I really kinda just wish sense would die. =\
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Why would you be on this phone then...? There's nothing but cavalcades of Sense here for us, because it's an HTC phone...
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username235 said:
Why would you be on this phone then...? There's nothing but cavalcades of Sense here for us, because it's an HTC phone...
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I pick my phones based on hardware. I'm not a fan of Sense, Widgets, and the like. That's why I'm here. I have an Android phone I can customize the way I like. That's why most people are here. Try to embrace that rather than judging people based on your feelings/convictions. That's what people that enjoy products from a certain "fruit themed company" do.
i think people need to stop complaining and/or stfu about sense already, it's getting old. we get it, you don't like sense. hooray for you. it seems the new "hip" thing to do is hate on sense, seriously. it's so god damn annoying to read. sense isn't going anywhere, so get over it. motoblur isn't going anywhere, and neither is any other manufactorers OS. stock android is ugly as sin, and ICS looks like a toy. atleast sense is going to bring visual appeal to ICS, whereas comparing ICS to iOS makes the nexus look like a toy.
tl;dr: shut up about sense, it's not going anywhere, and it's annoying to constantly read peoples hatred towards it. get over it.
MrSmith317 said:
I pick my phones based on hardware. I'm not a fan of Sense, Widgets, and the like. That's why I'm here. I have an Android phone I can customize the way I like. That's why most people are here. Try to embrace that rather than judging people based on your feelings/convictions. That's what people that enjoy products from a certain "fruit themed company" do.
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Lol damn dude. I was just wondering because all we have are sense roms. Don't get so hurt, I love AOSP too, I'm excited for it to finally come, but for now is it hard for you to even use this? Or do you use Senseless stuff or what? Just being friendly, don't get all hostile on me again.
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username235 said:
Lol damn dude. I was just wondering because all we have are sense roms. Don't get so hurt, I love AOSP too, I'm excited for it to finally come, but for now is it hard for you to even use this? Or do you use Senseless stuff or what? Just being friendly, don't get all hostile on me again.
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I don't do hostile posts. I test everything because I like to play with it all. Can't say I don't like something if I never laid eyes/hands on it. Since I do theme and support work, I switch between sense'd and non-sense'd quite often.
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Why would you be on this phone then...? There's nothing but cavalcades of Sense here for us, because it's an HTC phone...
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Agreed! As it may be intrusive, it's still the best! This phone has been running great for me!
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I am new to Xda and HTC phones myself and I do like sense. The short time I have been on this site, I have noticed and strangely I might add. People seem to get way to hostile over the Sense vs Asop debate. People have different tastes and what they like and its just as much their choice as anything so why be condescending or hostile over their choice.
The reason I bought the rezound myself was hardware or I would have gotten the Gnex , because I like to mod and play around with different roms. Sense was a bonus for me , because to me its just a theme I can flash or not
Mr Smith is nothing , but courteous and helpful in the 2 forums I have been on so no reason to drag his choice into the debate.
android is about choice. thats why it is different from all other brands/os.
the software can always be changed/rewritten, but you are stuck with the hardware.
like mrsmith i choose my phones based on hardware. i also happen to like sense so that i why i went with the rezound.
thats not so sat that i don like asop. i ran CM7 on my TB for that past 3 months, sense simply has more "polish" and "eye camdy" that i enjoy
personally i hope sense slims down a bit and some of the bloat and useless apps disappear, but finally they realize that beats audio should work for third party apps.
once my rezound is outdated, i will most likely end up with another HTC phone and it will be a 1.5 ghz quad core, 1 GB ram, 8/3 mp camera 10 mm thick sense 4.0 android 4.0 powered monster
What I found that I like in that article is the guest mode.
"You want to see my phone, sure hold on a second."
No more Facebook posts telling my family I am coming out or anything to that nature.
EmerikL said:
What I found that I like in that article is the guest mode.
"You want to see my phone, sure hold on a second."
No more Facebook posts telling my family I am coming out or anything to that nature.
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so your friends do that too huh...
I think all of us have friends like that.
Did you guys see 50gb of free fully integrated dropbox space!! I thought the 3gb we got was awesome. Did HTC. by dropbox or something?
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username235 said:
Why would you be on this phone then...? There's nothing but cavalcades of Sense here for us, because it's an HTC phone...
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I'm on this phone because it is the best phone on the market right now. It doesn't matter to me one bit what comes on the phone (Sense, blur, touchwiz, etc) except that sometimes (as it was with the Rezound initially) its impossibly hard to get rid of.
Now that I have removed like 95% of Sense/HTC related software from the system, installed my launcher of preference, I am extremely happy with my phone and battery life. I'm so glad I didn't get anything else on the market right now.
So there you have it... I picked out this phone because of the phone, not because of the manufacturer or whatever crap bloatware that particular manufacturer decided to burden us with. And just cause other people are sick of reading about how crappy Sense is does not mean I'm going to like it anymore or withhold my thoughts on the subject for their benefit. Negative reviews of a product are just as important as positive reviews.
icy1899 said:
Did you guys see 50gb of free fully integrated dropbox space!! I thought the 3gb we got was awesome. Did HTC. by dropbox or something?
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While if I'm wrong it'd be awesome, but I think that's a typo, it'll probably be 5GB, to compete with apple's 5GB of free iCloud.

Shouldn't we do something about not getting sense 4

Just my opinion so don't burn me for it but I don't think we should just be okay with getting ripped and only getting sense 3.6 and them releasing sense 4 just a few months after our phone even though ics was already out when our phones were released and sense 4 in the works and I'm pretty sure if we were to all put our thoughts about it on the HTC facebook page we might be able to stirr this up and maybe actually get somewhere. Who's with me?
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Who knows if it'd work but doesn't hurt to try.
Couldn't hurt to try that's for sure. But I'm pretty sure we'll still be seeing 3.6 for the upcoming OTA. I also wonder if they have future plans to officially update the Rezound to 4.0.
hey don't assault their facebook...
calm down
Newtoroot has just about finished sense 4.0 - actually i think he has
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501512
read the whole post it's there ....
the Vigor is awesome
(rezound)
I agree it wouldn't hurt to try but if VZW/HTC really hold their promise of providing Rezound users with ICS, there is nothing we should have an issue with. I am happy we're getting ICS period to be honest.
Stock ICS over Sense 4.0 would be really nice but since it likely won't happen I'll keep supporting our Devs to bring us the latest and greatest.
Us not getting Sense 4 officially is just one reason why to be thankful for devs.
What does sense 4 have that 3.6 doesn't that we can take advantage of? We don't have the new camera with image sense and beats integration apparently is more than a software setting. We have the customizable dock so what else is there?
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The reason the Rezound won't get Sense 4.0 is that there are features in 4.0 that are specific to the hardware in the HTC One Series devices. Because of the differences between those devices and all other handsets preceding them a redesign of Sense was necessary. HTC isn't trying to screw anyone here and VZW had no decision in this matter. A petition won't do any good. We haven't even seen a changelog for Sense 3.6 yet or a side by side comparison of 4.0 so it's a bit premature to be upset that the Rezound won't get 4.0.
I don't care whether we get it or not but apparently a lot of others do.
I really don't care if we get it or not because our devs will eventually prefect it anyways.
nrfitchett4 said:
What does sense 4 have that 3.6 doesn't that we can take advantage of? We don't have the new camera with image sense and beats integration apparently is more than a software setting. We have the customizable dock so what else is there?
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boy a few of you on here sure don't seem to want "options" do you? you guys say the same about s-off and aosp.
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boy a few of you on here sure don't seem to want "options" do you? you guys say the same about s-off and aosp.
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I already have s-off
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boy a few of you on here sure don't seem to want "options" do you? you guys say the same about s-off and aosp.
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Once again, what advantages does sense 4 give you over 3.6? Besides I know that when you start frankensteining roms you tend to get broken features. See aosp on the thunderbolt.
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I just want cm9 I don't care about sense 3.0-4.0 I'm patiently waiting and using nova launcher
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the reason people want sense 4 is because apparnelty HTC streamlined sense and got rid of a lot of the bloat that made the phones bogged down because of the UI.
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the reason people want sense 4 is because apparnelty HTC streamlined sense and got rid of a lot of the bloat that made the phones bogged down because of the UI.
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That is a pretty good reason if you ask me. Probably would really help out the battery life too. I've easily doubled my battery life since tossing most of Sense 3.5 out.
Anyways, to answer the OP's question: YES. If you want Sense 4.0 officially because you're not willing to root and flash a ROM, then of course you should try to do something about it. The ONLY reason we arent getting Sense 4 is because they are leaving it exclusive to their upcoming devices, so they can use it as a selling point. If you don't think thats fair, you SHOULD say something. Don't expect anybody to listen... but you never know.
Was it just coincidence that HTC silently allowed Rezound on HTC Dev Unlock just a week or so after the petition was started? Maybe, but it could just as easily have been BECAUSE of the petition. I say there is no reason not to give it a shot.
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The reason the Rezound won't get Sense 4.0 is that there are features in 4.0 that are specific to the hardware in the HTC One Series devices. Because of the differences between those devices and all other handsets preceding them a redesign of Sense was necessary. HTC isn't trying to screw anyone here and VZW had no decision in this matter. A petition won't do any good. We haven't even seen a changelog for Sense 3.6 yet or a side by side comparison of 4.0 so it's a bit premature to be upset that the Rezound won't get 4.0.
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Agreed. Thanks for the input.
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it's not because of hardware. The rezound is capable of running sense 4. The one V will be running sense 4 and has significantly lower specs than the rezound.
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As someone said already, it's just being used as a selling point for the One series.
The Rezound has already been shunned by Verizon and probably HTC after the ICS update.
I'm fairly confident we'll never see Sense 4 officially.
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it's not because of hardware. The rezound is capable of running sense 4. The one V will be running sense 4 and has significantly lower specs than the rezound.
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I think there is some different hardware in those phones for the camera options they put in it. But they could definitely make a variation of sense 4 for us but they probably won't.
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This Sense 4.0 on ICS made me fall back in love with my EVO!

Just wanted to tell those who may be reluctant to try a different rom, its worth the work.
I can't wait to try it on the evo lte. Ill be finally free from touchwiz Never again....
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Just wanted to tell those who may be reluctant to try a different rom, its worth the work.
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yeah i agree newt has truly done an incredible job with this as he always does
agree
Sense 4.0 finally looks live a Launcher
I said the same thing when I finally got ics on my touchpad...on a tablet at least, it is very user friendly, and make for a fun exerience! as far as my evo 3d goes, im just gonna wait a few weeks till we get the official update.... I figure it has to happen really soon, because I am not sure when virgin is releasing their evo3d, but boost is releasing their evo design on the 31st, and their website says it will have 4.0.... There is no way in hell a boost or virgin HTC phone will get ics before sprint ones do
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Sense 4.0 finally looks live a Launcher
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I love it. If you're rooted try out myn's RLS2, it really is nice and smooth.
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I love it. If you're rooted try out myn's RLS2, it really is nice and smooth.
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I was running it today and it was pretty good, I'm looking forward to warm four dot zero. 3.6 has amazing battery life and sense 4 has fluidity and a new taste. I'm not a fan of 3.0 with ics, but that battery life is amazing. I got about 10 hours before I got to 10% and I'm a pretty heavy user (a lot of Facebook and Voxer over 3g). Usually my phone would last 8 or 7 hours before it died.
yeah but you will never be free of sense... i'm getting the nexus **** htc, motorola, and any other piece of **** manufacturer out there. although samsung makes the nexus... which is weird since google owns motorola mobility.. ahh i don't understand! Lol
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yeah but you will never be free of sense... i'm getting the nexus **** htc, motorola, and any other piece of **** manufacturer out there. although samsung makes the nexus... which is weird since google owns motorola mobility.. ahh i don't understand! Lol
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they are just playing fair with other manufacturers - otherwise moto would make all nexus's and samsung/htc/lg/etc. would all moan about it
Ics hit like the new coke on the street cause the evo ed forums jumpin again lol
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I'm not using a Sense 4.0 ROM (using CleanROM atm), but you are right -- it's like a whole new phone with ICS. I was considering upgrading to a different phone just out of sheer phone boredom, but this ICS has shown me the 3D is still viable for a lot longer.
nandroide said:
yeah but you will never be free of sense... i'm getting the nexus **** htc, motorola, and any other piece of **** manufacturer out there. although samsung makes the nexus... which is weird since google owns motorola mobility.. ahh i don't understand! Lol
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The Nexus is ok at best, I've tried it and can honestly say that the SII, 3D, and even Note feel more comfortable for usability. Sure, the stock ICS is fluid and is designed around the capabilities of the Nexus, but in the end, you're still playing with a black banana phone with a goofy curved screen.
Sense 4.0 is a huge change over 3.6. If you haven't tried newts Rom do it. 3d and 4g aren't working but you really won't miss them. Although I am surprised that no one has ported the EVO 4g LTE Rom to our device yet. It would be nice to have a full cmda sense 4.0 Rom.
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nandroide said:
yeah but you will never be free of sense... i'm getting the nexus **** htc, motorola, and any other piece of **** manufacturer out there. although samsung makes the nexus... which is weird since google owns motorola mobility.. ahh i don't understand! Lol
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I think it's pretty simple to be free from Sense if that's your preference... get a different phone and stop complaining.
Most people that buy HTC do so because they like Sense UI, above all other factory UI variations... Sense 4 is the best one yet. TouchWiz, MotoBlur, and everything else don't even compare.
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Sense 4.0 is a huge change over 3.6. If you haven't tried newts Rom do it. 3d and 4g aren't working but you really won't miss them. Although I am surprised that no one has ported the EVO 4g LTE Rom to our device yet. It would be nice to have a full cmda sense 4.0 Rom.
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Totally agree newt one s was pure sexy. Loved it but had to go back to 3.6 because I need my bluetooth talk driving company vehicle. Can't wait till the 4g lte Roms hit. Sense 3.6 is a nice improvement from our 3.0 but 4.0 is superb.
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Once ICS comes out officially, what do you guys think the chances are of having a fully functional ICS Sense 4.0 rom? I'm new to HTC and Sense and aren't really sure how complicated it would be to port it to the EVO 3D.
Pawnty said:
Once ICS comes out officially, what do you guys think the chances are of having a fully functional ICS Sense 4.0 rom? I'm new to HTC and Sense and aren't really sure how complicated it would be to port it to the EVO 3D.
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There already is one.
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Pawnty said:
Once ICS comes out officially, what do you guys think the chances are of having a fully functional ICS Sense 4.0 rom? I'm new to HTC and Sense and aren't really sure how complicated it would be to port it to the EVO 3D.
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I'd say the chances are very good... like 99% chance that there will be a Sense 4.0 ROM that has everything working.
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There already is one.
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No there isn't!
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tyler.durden said:
I think it's pretty simple to be free from Sense if that's your preference... get a different phone and stop complaining.
Most people that buy HTC do so because they like Sense UI, above all other factory UI variations... Sense 4 is the best one yet. TouchWiz, MotoBlur, and everything else don't even compare.
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Not true at all. Opinions are not facts. He felt I'll show you, "most people who buy htc phones do so for the hardware specs, they don't even like sense or know what it is"
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True aosp phones

Can we get a list of the "TRUE AOSP" phones? I bought the Rezound after being an iPhone user for years with the idea of flashing ROM'S etc. I found that I HATE Sense and want a TRUE ICS experience.
Well, as y'all know Rezound developers are dropping like flies around her (Protekk, etc...) and the only person doing any consistent work on a Senseless Rom is Scott. So before I make the mistake again of getting a phone that's not gonna give me all the freedom I desire can we get a list of the recent "TRUE AOSP phones?
Nexus's are the only true aosp
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mrbigdrawsz said:
Can we get a list of the "TRUE AOSP" phones? I bought the Rezound after being an iPhone user for years with the idea of flashing ROM'S etc. I found that I HATE Sense and want a TRUE ICS experience.
Well, as y'all know Rezound developers are dropping like flies around her (Protekk, etc...) and the only person doing any consistent work on a Senseless Rom is Scott. So before I make the mistake again of getting a phone that's not gonna give me all the freedom I desire can we get a list of the recent "TRUE AOSP phones?
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True aosp? The nexus series. There you go. There are other phones with aosp support but not officially like the nexii
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LOL, yea it's a real short list.......
If you want pure AOSP, you can get... the droid Eris!
Developers aren't dropping like flies, just because Protek left. Development is thriving here, but you got to like Sense. The reason I bought an HTC was because of reliability and the fact that it has Sense. I do like AOSP too (I miss MIUI), but I also like Sense.
You could always just throw Nova or Apex Launcher on your devices, or run de-sensed rom. Side note: if you get a Samsung like the Nexus, make sure you get a GSM version. CMDA radios are one of Samsung's biggest weaknesses.
a.mcdear said:
If you want pure AOSP, you can get... the droid Eris!
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lolz. droid eris ftw
holy ****.
for the 1000000th time:
SCOTTS SENSELESS ROM ISNT SENSELESS!!!
that rom is themed to look it dude, it still has sense ALL OVER IT. it's NOT senseless!
its a sense rom with a launcher thrown on it that you can download yourself in the market.
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This whole thing is souring me entirely on Android.
Maybe that sounds hyperbolic, but I'm sick of having to jump through these absurd hoops to get the hardware I want with the software I want.
I love the dev community and the hard work they do, but until Android OEMs offer a way, out of the box, to run AOSP then I'm going to be rethinking my commitment to Android.
It's absurd that the double-bind we're in is to choose hardware or software.
tekhna said:
This whole thing is souring me entirely on Android.
Maybe that sounds hyperbolic, but I'm sick of having to jump through these absurd hoops to get the hardware I want with the software I want.
I love the dev community and the hard work they do, but until Android OEMs offer a way, out of the box, to run AOSP then I'm going to be rethinking my commitment to Android.
It's absurd that the double-bind we're in is to choose hardware or software.
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I don't understand why the manufacturers ALL spend the time and resources to make such elaborate custom skins. I mean a custom launcher is one thing but rewriting the entire email, calander, mms, and settings apps is kind of overboard. Stock Ice cream sandwich really does not need any enhancements for the most part. The one good thing about the first set of honeycomb tablets is that they all for the most part ran aosp.
blackhand1001 said:
I don't understand why the manufacturers ALL spend the time and resources to make such elaborate custom skins. I mean a custom launcher is one thing but rewriting the entire email, calander, mms, and settings apps is kind of overboard. Stock Ice cream sandwich really does not need any enhancements for the most part. The one good thing about the first set of honeycomb tablets is that they all for the most part ran aosp.
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probably because stock Android is ugly as sin, it's widgets are ugly, and it's bland and boring. a lot of people feel this way, and we embrace sense because it actually looks GOOD.
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Droid 1 is also AOSP, it even has froyo!
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tekhna said:
This whole thing is souring me entirely on Android.
Maybe that sounds hyperbolic, but I'm sick of having to jump through these absurd hoops to get the hardware I want with the software I want.
I love the dev community and the hard work they do, but until Android OEMs offer a way, out of the box, to run AOSP then I'm going to be rethinking my commitment to Android.
It's absurd that the double-bind we're in is to choose hardware or software.
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Yes, because you have so many hardware and software options for iOS and equally as many software options on Windows Phone.
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jayochs said:
probably because stock Android is ugly as sin, it's widgets are ugly, and it's bland and boring. a lot of people feel this way, and we embrace sense because it actually looks GOOD.
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That's your opinion, I find sense too bubbly and big for me, and love the look of stock aosp. It would be nice if manufacturers made their phones work on aosp source as a start, then added their skins on top, but that's a lot to ask, so I don't complain
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Fwiw I think AOSP is ugly too
rmcsc said:
Yes, because you have so many hardware and software options for iOS and equally as many software options on Windows Phone.
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Yes, let's take what I said and willfully distort it.
heleos said:
That's your opinion, I find sense too bubbly and big for me, and love the look of stock aosp. It would be nice if manufacturers made their phones work on aosp source as a start, then added their skins on top, but that's a lot to ask, so I don't complain
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agreed man, it's all opinions, which is why HTC makes sense lol
if there was a box i could check to switch to stock android or sense, i'll admit i'd give it a whirl. yeah, i'd get sick of it after 2 days (i coudln't run CM7 for longer than 24 hours on my Inc because i couldn't stand AOSP), but i'd still try it out.
Any phone that Cyanogen will support can get "full AOSP"
everyone needs to remember not everyone likes the same things... I prefer sense over asop and that's why i have this phone... I think asop is plain as well and i commend HTC for making Sense as nice it is... no other manufacturer comes close with their own UI
I think AOSP functions better than Sense, that's purely why I like it.

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