[q] should I try & root? - Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey
Got my Atrix few days ago and love it! First time on Android coming from iPhone 3G, speed is soo fast!!! I love every bit about my Atrix.
Im a geek and well I want to root because well...i really dont know. The cool GingerBlur turns me on But also to learn more about my futureproof phone.
My question is as I have it set up the way I like it is there a backup tool I can use to make a backup of my current settings/apps/music etc..?
It be annoying if everything gets wiped when I have to downgrade and root, but hey, we are geeks!
My next question is, should I just sit on what I have till Moto/AT&T rolls that April update out..?
-Be3

Best backup tool is titanium backup. Register for a dropbox account so it has a place to store everything for you (it's free) then you can set it to back up you apps and settings. But as far as mp3s those should be on an sd card as titanium backup can not back those up. Also if you're using the finger print reader when you back everything up them have issues with the fingerprint reader after restore here's a link for a fix to it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=977600 and yes go ahead and root as titanium backup needs root access
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Auto Batch Install Apps?

As a lot of us do here we are constantly flashing new roms and what not that require fresh installs. I've been using Titanium Backup to restore my apps and data, which I love btw. The only thing is I have quite a few apps, around 120. Going one by one to restore them takes some time. Is there a way to auto install them without me having to press install on each one?
speoples20 said:
As a lot of us do here we are constantly flashing new roms and what not that require fresh installs. I've been using Titanium Backup to restore my apps and data, which I love btw. The only thing is I have quite a few apps, around 120. Going one by one to restore them takes some time. Is there a way to auto install them without me having to press install on each one?
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That is a feature of the paid version of Titanium Backup. When you send the developer a payment on pay pal, he will send you a file with a license key to unlock the pro features that you place on the root of your internal sd card. I highly recommend paying for it as it saves a lot of time and hassle.
Yep, Titanium backup. With the licensed version, it will restore all your apps and data/settings in a batch job with no user interaction.
I wish AppBrain would do this too.
Lastly, I just switched over from the HTC EVO. The Cyanomod ROM (CM6) has remote backups through Google, so it will install the apps automagically. I'm pretty sure this is a Froyo thing, but CM6 is the only ROM I know of that does the auto-download/install thing.
Ah ok yeah was planing on getting this since I flash a lot.
Tempestrs4 said:
That is a feature of the paid version of Titanium Backup. When you send the developer a payment on pay pal, he will send you a file with a license key to unlock the pro features that you place on the root of your internal sd card. I highly recommend paying for it as it saves a lot of time and hassle.
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+1 A must have for those of us who suffer from installing every Rom we can get our hands on! ;-)
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I just found out MyBackUp Pro does batch installs as well. I hadn't used it for a while but if you have root you are able to install everything plus fix the market links as well.
ZoinksS2k said:
Yep, Titanium backup. With the licensed version, it will restore all your apps and data/settings in a batch job with no user interaction.
I wish AppBrain would do this too.
Lastly, I just switched over from the HTC EVO. The Cyanomod ROM (CM6) has remote backups through Google, so it will install the apps automagically. I'm pretty sure this is a Froyo thing, but CM6 is the only ROM I know of that does the auto-download/install thing.
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How do you like the vibrant compared to the evo? I had the evo for a week and liked it but I think the vibrant will have be the phone for me especially once cm6 is ported over
Mybackup pro does a good job too I use it because I flash like 3 times a week...it puts all your apps back as well as data if you tell it to.
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microfire21 said:
Mybackup pro does a good job too I use it because I flash like 3 times a week...it puts all your apps back as well as data if you tell it to.
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Could be IMO, but Titanium is 1000 X's better than My Backup Pro. Everything about Titanium is better, and the developer is amazing.

[Q] Manual GB upgrade?

Unfortunately, I was one of the few that got left behind when VZW pulled the update. I really want to update, even with the VM bug and everything. I came across this guide on how to manually upgrade to GB but I noticed it said it completely wipes my phone. Now I know Backup Assistant saves my contacts, my music is on my SD card so I'm not too worried about that. I'm afraid I might lose app data suchas all the hours and HOURS I put into Angry Birds Rio to get 3 stars on every level. Can anyone help me find a way to fully save all of my app data before I manually upgrade? BTW I've never rooted and I'm on stock Froyo
Do you plan on rooting? If so use the Revolutionary method it works great and there are plenty of How To guides to step you through it. As far as backing up your Angry Birds, Titanium Backup works very well. However, you do need root access for that app to work. The free version will do what your looking for. The pro version adds a couple nice features if you are going to play around with some different ROMs.
Stratejaket said:
Do you plan on rooting? If so use the Revolutionary method it works great and there are plenty of How To guides to step you through it. As far as backing up your Angry Birds, Titanium Backup works very well. However, you do need root access for that app to work. The free version will do what your looking for. The pro version adds a couple nice features if you are going to play around with some different ROMs.
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I wasn't really planning on rooting. Would you just suggest waiting another eternity for VZW and HTC to push out the fixed version of GB?
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My backup pro will work
I'm still fairly new to the root world. I don't know or have not read of any way to back up your apps reliably without root access. Titanium backup, and Mybackup Pro are the 2 most common apps used to make back ups. There might be more? Titanium requires root, where Mybackup claims to have some functionality without root access.
From mybackup pro's website:
Key facts about MyBackup Pro:
Works on non-root phones, as well as root phones.
Root phones have the ability to backup APK+Data and Market Links.
Titanium has a free version that you can use that will back up your apps and all of their data. The Pro version adds a couple nice features that are handy for people that flash roms and like to change stuff around often.
Without root access Mybackup only does:
Application install files (If phone has root access, this includes APK+Data and Market Links)
Contacts
Call log
Browser bookmarks
SMS (text messages)
MMS (attachments in messages)
System Settings
Home screens (including HTC Sense UI)
Alarms
Dictionary
Calendar
Music playlists
Integrated third party applications
Not really what you want. Since you would lose your angry birds data and spend hours trying to gain 3 stars again on the levels! If you flashed the new Ruu.
It boils down to what you are comfortable doing I guess. Rooting is not for everyone. If you do not want to root you are pretty much stuck waiting on vzw and htc to get their OTA fixed and pushed back out.
Rooting is easy with Revolutionary, but you do void your warranty and open the door to being able to delete important system files. Once you root most likely you will find it hard to resist the urge to flash and try out new roms to!
jumpman1229 said:
Unfortunately, I was one of the few that got left behind when VZW pulled the update. I really want to update, even with the VM bug and everything. I came across this guide on how to manually upgrade to GB but I noticed it said it completely wipes my phone. Now I know Backup Assistant saves my contacts, my music is on my SD card so I'm not too worried about that. I'm afraid I might lose app data suchas all the hours and HOURS I put into Angry Birds Rio to get 3 stars on every level. Can anyone help me find a way to fully save all of my app data before I manually upgrade? BTW I've never rooted and I'm on stock Froyo
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Could you link me to the guide you are referring to?
I think the easiest way is to just root it. Revolutionary method is pretty easy (I hear). I used the old school ADB method (which was nerve racking for me bc I am no Android guru). The Revolutionary method is a little harder to un-root though.
Are you opposed to rooting bc of the warranty issue? After you root than you can back up all your data. I don't know of a way to back up data wo root. Plus with root access you can flash some sweet roms.
If you will link me to the guide I will try to remember to get back to you with some more thoughts
Stratejaket said:
I'm still fairly new to the root world. I don't know or have not read of any way to back up your apps reliably without root access. Titanium backup, and Mybackup Pro are the 2 most common apps used to make back ups. There might be more? Titanium requires root, where Mybackup claims to have some functionality without root access.
From mybackup pro's website:
Key facts about MyBackup Pro:
Works on non-root phones, as well as root phones.
Root phones have the ability to backup APK+Data and Market Links.
Titanium has a free version that you can use that will back up your apps and all of their data. The Pro version adds a couple nice features that are handy for people that flash roms and like to change stuff around often.
Without root access Mybackup only does:
Application install files (If phone has root access, this includes APK+Data and Market Links)
Contacts
Call log
Browser bookmarks
SMS (text messages)
MMS (attachments in messages)
System Settings
Home screens (including HTC Sense UI)
Alarms
Dictionary
Calendar
Music playlists
Integrated third party applications
Not really what you want. Since you would lose your angry birds data and spend hours trying to gain 3 stars again on the levels! If you flashed the new Ruu.
It boils down to what you are comfortable doing I guess. Rooting is not for everyone. If you do not want to root you are pretty much stuck waiting on vzw and htc to get their OTA fixed and pushed back out.
Rooting is easy with Revolutionary, but you do void your warranty and open the door to being able to delete important system files. Once you root most likely you will find it hard to resist the urge to flash and try out new roms to!
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Yeah, I don't really wanna root. I might have to try that out. But when you say:
"Application install files (If phone has root access, this includes APK+Data and Market Links)"
^doesn't the "APK=data" part mean the saves within each app?
thepolishguy said:
Could you link me to the guide you are referring to?
I think the easiest way is to just root it. Revolutionary method is pretty easy (I hear). I used the old school ADB method (which was nerve racking for me bc I am no Android guru). The Revolutionary method is a little harder to un-root though.
Are you opposed to rooting bc of the warranty issue? After you root than you can back up all your data. I don't know of a way to back up data wo root. Plus with root access you can flash some sweet roms.
If you will link me to the guide I will try to remember to get back to you with some more thoughts
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...d-rom-radio-and-full-ruu-for-htc-thunderbolt/
Yeah, I dont really want to root bc of the warranty thing. ^There it is.
jumpman1229 said:
Yeah, I don't really wanna root. I might have to try that out. But when you say:
"Application install files (If phone has root access, this includes APK+Data and Market Links)"
^doesn't the "APK=data" part mean the saves within each app?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...d-rom-radio-and-full-ruu-for-htc-thunderbolt/
Yeah, I dont really want to root bc of the warranty thing. ^There it is.
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Oh yeah. that file will most certainly wipe you out and you'll have to start all over. I still haven't found a solution for backing up wo out root. Sorry.
I'm pretty sure backing up the .apk part isn't a big deal, worst case you can just redownload that. You want the DATA part backed up. The apk is just the file format android uses to install software. Like .exe in windows. (I'm pretty sure at least.)
The post from android police you linked will definitely wipe everything. If you don't make a root accessible back up you will lose all of your app data.
I totally understand the warranty concern. I held out for as long as I could. I received the OTA to GB and was very unimpressed. After hoping for months that the update would be more than what it is, I took the leap into freedom of root and made my phone what I wanted it to be.
Sounds like you should check out some new backgrounds to keep you interested in your current setup.
thepolishguy - Don't worry about it bro. Thanks for trying to help. Left you a thanks
Stratejaket - That's Exactly how I was feeling. If this GB update fix doesn't come soon, I will definitely look into rooting. Lol I was getting bored with this thing lol. Also left you a thanks for trying to help. *runs to zedge for a new background*
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*runs to zedge for a new background*
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HAHA Good Luck man.

Temp root * Sigh*

Well I finally decided that I'm going to unlock my phone sometime this week because of all these roms I'm missing out on, but i have 1 obstacle keeping me from doing that. From my understanding when u unlock u factory reset without a backup of anything. I was wondering if there is a form of temp root that still works after the ota so o can use titanium backup before a factory reset. I can care less about settings and all that carp, I just want to backup my apps and settings. If anyone has an idea feel free to respond please!
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evilstewie23 said:
Well I finally decided that I'm going to unlock my phone sometime this week because of all these roms I'm missing out on, but i have 1 obstacle keeping me from doing that. From my understanding when u unlock u factory reset without a backup of anything. I was wondering if there is a form of temp root that still works after the ota so o can use titanium backup before a factory reset. I can care less about settings and all that carp, I just want to backup my apps and settings. If anyone has an idea feel free to respond please!
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Use mybackup. No need for root.
tekhna said:
Use mybackup. No need for root.
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It won't backup my apps data though and that's all I care about really. Thanks for response though
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evilstewie23 said:
Well I finally decided that I'm going to unlock my phone sometime this week because of all these roms I'm missing out on, but i have 1 obstacle keeping me from doing that. From my understanding when u unlock u factory reset without a backup of anything. I was wondering if there is a form of temp root that still works after the ota so o can use titanium backup before a factory reset. I can care less about settings and all that carp, I just want to backup my apps and settings. If anyone has an idea feel free to respond please!
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I had some of the same concerns when I recently unlocked and rooted my Rez. I don't thnk there is any way to temp. root since the OTA, however, you might look at MyBackUp or App Backup. Both are backup programs that work without being rooted. After root, MyBackUp bought back in about 90% of my programs. There were several I had to go back to the Market to get. My settings were not saved but I think that is my fault. In MyBackUp you can choose to save both apps and/or data. I had just saved apps.
Goodluck! It is well worth doing.
rockehill10 said:
I had some of the same concerns when I recently unlocked and rooted my Rez. I don't thnk there is any way to temp. root since the OTA, however, you might look at MyBackUp or App Backup. Both are backup programs that work without being rooted. After root, MyBackUp bought back in about 90% of my programs. There were several I had to go back to the Market to get. My settings were not saved but I think that is my fault. In MyBackUp you can choose to save both apps and/or data. I had just saved apps.
Goodluck! It is well worth doing.
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Thanks. So there's a app data back up huh? I'll research it and check. Thanks for your guy's responses
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Confused, are you trying to temp root or perm root?
I think he means that he wants to perm root but since he has to do a factory reset nd doesn't wanna loose all his data from apps then perm root nd get his data back correct me if I'm wrong
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I tried using mybackup pro but none of the app data would restore =(
I am trying to transfer my game data from a defective rezound to a new one but both are OTA updated.
Did i miss something? Are we sure mybackup pro can backup/restore app data on the rezound?
evilstewie23 said:
It won't backup my apps data though and that's all I care about really. Thanks for response though
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I have MyBackup Pro and you can backup apps and data. I haven't used it for that before so I can't speak to how it restores but it did a great job of restoring my phone and home settings.
I'm running it on a rooted phone so I don't know if that changes the options or not.
I was in exactly the same boat and mybackup worked for some but not all apps. I looked all over, but if you already got the OTA installed then you don't have other options. Sorry man. There is no temp root after OTA due to fixes against zerg root exploit.
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If you have Root access it will backup all Data/Settings for All applications.
If you have no root access, it will backup integrated apps data/settings.
darn it, well thanks for the closure at least
Ya thanks guys but I guess I'll just wait a few months before unlocking. Might get s-off before u no . I'll for sure unlock after ics though
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Best way to back up an unrooted phone?

I need to exchange my phone (shutting down randomly).
I really don't want to have to set everything up again. Any suggestions on the best way to back up an unrooted phone before I return it? Id prefer to NOT have to root, backup then unroot.
[edit] So far, I've moved all apps to the SD card, what else can I do?
Thanks!
baaj said:
I need to exchange my phone (shutting down randomly).
I really don't want to have to set everything up again. Any suggestions on the best way to back up an unrooted phone before I return it? Id prefer to NOT have to root, backup then unroot.
Thanks!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1544173
There really is not an easy way..there are a number of apps you can use like astro for app back up, sms back up and restore and bookmarks back up apps
Mybackup seems ok. I'm just a noob though.
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I use SUPER MANAGER which doesn't require root and it will back up all your apps and some settings (but move the apps jack to the device first). Then when you get the new device just restore all the apps. Some settings won't move across but at least he tedious reinstall will be easier.
Super Manager has many other great features BTW.
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+1 for
MyBackUp Pro--does about all you can do without root--

To root or not root; a conversation.

Hey all,
This just a conversation to get me to finally bite the bullet and finally root and install a ROM.
With all the delays or possible cancelations of JB on my i717, I have just about convinced myself to root and installation a rom. Avatar is looking good.
I have been using the go launcher and all its sub systems: phone, IM, twitter all the stuff so I need to figure out to remove all the go replace sub components. Is there a panel on one of the releases that makes this easy?
So do yous guys still think the i717 will still get an official 717 update?
Also, if looks like jb will remove the ability to move apps to the sd. At lease it did on my note 10.1. Think they will do the same if they release jb on the 717?
I read through all the fans and understand backup the IMs, data, contacts. What about apps (I have a ton and chagrin having reinstall
So first root, use titanium backup and then install a ROM? Also what is a modem? Usually I am familiar with the term as in phone interface. What is modem rom for?
Thoughts and answers welcome!
Thanks for everyone time.
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Honeybadger said:
Hey all,
This just a conversation to get me to finally bite the bullet and finally root and install a ROM.
With all the delays or possible cancelations of JB on my i717, I have just about convinced myself to root and installation a rom. Avatar is looking good.
I have been using the go launcher and all its sub systems: phone, IM, twitter all the stuff so I need to figure out to remove all the go replace sub components. Is there a panel on one of the releases that makes this easy?
So do yous guys still think the i717 will still get an official 717 update?
Also, if looks like jb will remove the ability to move apps to the sd. At lease it did on my note 10.1. Think they will do the same if they release jb on the 717?
I read through all the fans and understand backup the IMs, data, contacts. What about apps (I have a ton and chagrin having reinstall
So first root, use titanium backup and then install a ROM? Also what is a modem? Usually I am familiar with the term as in phone interface. What is modem rom for?
Thoughts and answers welcome!
Thanks for everyone time.
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+1 vote for root!
I bet the original note gets a JB update. But I also bet the Note 3 will be out by then and Note 2 people will be begging for their key lime pie!!!
It doesn't matter what phone your on, your always going to be waiting for an update of some sort. So why wait... root it! It unlocks SO much potential in these phones. I've been flashing roms for years and love it! I've never had any problems because I've always done a lil research on software out there and followed the directions to a TEE! Since you're new at this I will direct you to this thread. Read the first 3 posts. They will answer 90% of your questions, especially post 3. Once your schooled and brain has cooled a lil, this is basically what you gotta do to get started.
So happy reading and rooting!
440bro said:
+1 vote for root!
I bet the original note gets a JB update. But I also bet the Note 3 will be out by then and Note 2 people will be begging for their key lime pie!!!
It doesn't matter what phone your on, your always going to be waiting for an update of some sort. So why wait... root it! It unlocks SO much potential in these phones. I've been flashing roms for years and love it! I've never had any problems because I've always done a lil research on software out there and followed the directions to a TEE! Since you're new at this I will direct you to this thread. Read the first 3 posts. They will answer 90% of your questions, especially post 3. Once your schooled and brain has cooled a lil, this is basically what you gotta do to get started.
So happy reading and rooting!
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Thanks very much for the opinion, advice and experience!
Reading now.
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For the remaining 10% off your questions not found in those threads or searching, feel free to ask!
You don't need root permission to flash a recovery, a custom rom, or a different modem.
But with regards to rooting, its not like you're climbing Mt. Everest naked without oxygen. Its a two minute project.
And you only need to root if there is some app or some system action you need to do that having a stock system won't allow.
If you're undecided, then you don't need to do it. Those that need to just do it.
440bro said:
It doesn't matter what phone your on, your always going to be waiting for an update of some sort.
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That's true except for one product line.
NEXUS DEVICES
Even the nexus s, that was released with the debut of GINGERBREAD is officially supported by Google with a 4.2.2 firmware of its own.
rangercaptain said:
You don't need root permission to flash a recovery, a custom rom, or a different modem.
But with regards to rooting, its not like you're climbing Mt. Everest naked without oxygen. Its a two minute project.
And you only need to root if there is some app or some system action you need to do that having a stock system won't allow.
If you're undecided, then you don't need to do it. Those that need to just do it.
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What about being to move apps to sd?
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Once rooted you will have the ability to move apps to sd card using a separate app.
440bro said:
Once rooted you will have the ability to move apps to sd card using a separate app.
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^that
and also you can remove applications placed by the phone company that sometimes only eat some of the battery, even if you never even open them!
You can remove ad banners off the browser as well! saving data if you are not on unlimited plan(like myself)
hmm.. personally i root because of that reason, the ad blocking on the browser(i don't mind them on the apps unless they're sketching apps)
2nd reason would be being able to use the app named "autostarts" which controls the autorun's of any app on your phone! Wisely used, you can stop user apps from restarting themselves and such, just never use on system apps and that means more ram and more battery
rangercaptain said:
You don't need root permission to flash a recovery, a custom rom, or a different modem.
But with regards to rooting, its not like you're climbing Mt. Everest naked without oxygen. Its a two minute project.
And you only need to root if there is some app or some system action you need to do that having a stock system won't allow.
If you're undecided, then you don't need to do it. Those that need to just do it.
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Maybe it isn't climbing Everest, but I do rely on my phone and in turn I need it reliable. Lockups and waiting for reboots is a worry.
I need apps to work at least 95 percent of the time. I understand and occasionally sunspot caused glitch is acceptable but should be occasional. So yes, I do worry about my constant companion.
I am not just talking about rooting but finding the right ROM which will make my phone more usable and more reliable than the At&t stock rom, just trying to find the right one and install it right the first time.
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PrincessKiwi said:
^that
and also you can remove applications placed by the phone company that sometimes only eat some of the battery, even if you never even open them!
You can remove ad banners off the browser as well! saving data if you are not on unlimited plan(like myself)
hmm.. personally i root because of that reason, the ad blocking on the browser(i don't mind them on the apps unless they're sketching apps)
2nd reason would be being able to use the app named "autostarts" which controls the autorun's of any app on your phone! Wisely used, you can stop user apps from restarting themselves and such, just never use on system apps and that means more ram and more battery
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Your advice, wisdom and time are heeded and appreciated!
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Honeybadger said:
Your advice, wisdom and time are heeded and appreciated!
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the best part is it is very easy to do! even a silly girl like me could root and do all this "mt everest" stuff ehehe its very simple!
and really nothing bad will happen to your phone and i assume you take good care of it :highfive:
i dont evne mind those warrantys things, i take care of my androids as i would a pet or something
and make sure they come in good state and all when out of the box
when i had my first android some years ago i softbricked it and cried! on my first attempt.. because i skipped one step(NEVER SKIP A STEP) but then i saw there's solution to everything.. unless it exploded or something but that never happens yay :victory:
and now i feel these things are useless without root permissions.. it's the first thing i do the moment i get them and come back home! :fingers-crossed:
PrincessKiwi said:
the best part is it is very easy to do! even a silly girl like me could root and do all this "mt everest" stuff ehehe its very simple!
and really nothing bad will happen to your phone and i assume you take good care of it :highfive:
i dont evne mind those warrantys things, i take care of my androids as i would a pet or something
and make sure they come in good state and all when out of the box
when i had my first android some years ago i softbricked it and cried! on my first attempt.. because i skipped one step(NEVER SKIP A STEP) but then i saw there's solution to everything.. unless it exploded or something but that never happens yay :victory:
and now i feel these things are useless without root permissions.. it's the first thing i do the moment i get them and come back home! :fingers-crossed:
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experience!
You don't need a rooted phone to install roms. Just a PC, cable, and Odin software.
What you could possibly need is to install a custom recovery like TWRP. That is WAY more important that worrying about rooting your phone. Why? Because you could install roms from your phone and skip the PC. All non-stock roms are already rooted.
You have 16gigs of internal memory for apps - thats like about 200 apps, so you don't need to move them to external sd card.
What you should do is make sure all those apps store their data on the external card. Then you have protected your data and kept your memory for apps.
What app/process you you need to do that requires root permission of your file system? Every concern you mentioned has nothing to do with root permisions of your file system.
Maybe your question should be "Why should I flash non-stock roms over the stock Gingerbread I have now? A Conversation"
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And my answer is use the latest N7005 ICS ROM because it is rooted, has no carrier apps installed and is fast and smooth, and since it is stock, everything functions correctly.
If you want dependable, don't go past 4.04 ICS ROMs, because above that, the ROMs come from other phones and developers have to squeeze them into our phone. The result is random reboots, freezing, main features not working (TV out, s-pen, Bluetooth connectivity issues, to name a few main ones).
Everyone else is going to argue to defend their reason for what they did to their phone -- I answered based on your stated needs.
Good luck, I hope you get your phone to a place you're satisfied with.
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You have 16gigs of internal memory for apps - thats like about 200 apps, so you don't need to move them to external sd card.
What you should do is make sure all those apps store their data on the external card. Then you have protected your data and kept your memory for apps.
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How do make apps store data on the ext card while keeping those apps internal?
rangercaptain said:
You don't need a rooted phone to install roms. Just a PC, cable, and Odin software.
What you could possibly need is to install a custom recovery like TWRP. That is WAY more important that worrying about rooting your phone. Why? Because you could install roms from your phone and skip the PC. All non-stock roms are already rooted.
You have 16gigs of internal memory for apps - thats like about 200 apps, so you don't need to move them to external sd card.
What you should do is make sure all those apps store their data on the external card. Then you have protected your data and kept your memory for apps.
What app/process you you need to do that requires root permission of your file system? Every concern you mentioned has nothing to do with root permisions of your file system.
Maybe your question should be "Why should I flash non-stock roms over the stock Gingerbread I have now? A Conversation"
---------- Post added at 07:10 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:53 AM ----------
And my answer is use the latest N7005 ICS ROM because it is rooted, has no carrier apps installed and is fast and smooth, and since it is stock, everything functions correctly.
If you want dependable, don't go past 4.04 ICS ROMs, because above that, the ROMs come from other phones and developers have to squeeze them into our phone. The result is random reboots, freezing, main features not working (TV out, s-pen, Bluetooth connectivity issues, to name a few main ones).
Everyone else is going to argue to defend their reason for what they did to their phone -- I answered based on your stated needs.
Good luck, I hope you get your phone to a place you're satisfied with.
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Thanks for the advice, one of the reasons I am looking at upgrading is I also want google now which only cones with jb.
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That's a good reason. But our JB ROMs are the result of great effort and professionalism from our developers, but they are experimental and have issues. So to gain some features, you will definitely lose some.
I have been using 4.1.# then 4.2.2 and I think I'm going back to the N7005 ROM because I miss the features I bought the phone for. Anyway, as someone said, read and decide what the tradeoffs are, and you can always go backwards.
Ok, decided to go with Kangparanoid rom... Right now I have a stock unrooted ROM. What is the best way to create a perfect backup of what I have now to restore current state.
Also is there an easy way to restore all my apps (include what's been moved to my external sd card) post jb upgrade?
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Honeybadger said:
Ok, decided to go with Kangparanoid rom... Right now I have a stock unrooted ROM. What is the best way to create a perfect backup of what I have now to restore current state.
Also is there an easy way to restore all my apps (include what's been moved to my external sd card) post jb upgrade?
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Nice rom choice! I'm actually using it right now!!
I vote for titanium backup to backup all your stuff. I use the pro version so I can't remember if you can move apps to sd card in the free version or not. Once you open titanium you have it backup EVERYTHING! It will backup your apps, call logs, text messages, wifi passwords, bookmarks, alarms, etc..... Do this on your phone now. Then root your phone and make a nandroid backup in recovery. Install your rom and sign into your phone using the same gmail acct you had previously. You'll find that most of your apps will begin to reinstall themselves. Once you got titanium on your new rom installed open it but do not, I repeat do NOT restore everything! Titanium backs up system files that shouldn't be restored because they were from your previous rom. Just click individual apps that you want to restore. Titanium color codes everything nicely. System files are red and mean business! Apps installed already are white. Your call logs and messages will be yellow. Those you can restore. Backed up apps not installed will have a line thru them. I've been using titanium for years since android 1.5 came out. So it works on any rom!
Happy rooting and flashing!
440bro said:
Nice rom choice! I'm actually using it right now!!
I vote for titanium backup to backup all your stuff. I use the pro version so I can't remember if you can move apps to sd card in the free version or not. Once you open titanium you have it backup EVERYTHING! It will backup your apps, call logs, text messages, wifi passwords, bookmarks, alarms, etc..... Do this on your phone now. Then root your phone and make a nandroid backup in recovery. Install your rom and sign into your phone using the same gmail acct you had previously. You'll find that most of your apps will begin to reinstall themselves. Once you got titanium on your new rom installed open it but do not, I repeat do NOT restore everything! Titanium backs up system files that shouldn't be restored because they were from your previous rom. Just click individual apps that you want to restore. Titanium color codes everything nicely. System files are red and mean business! Apps installed already are white. Your call logs and messages will be yellow. Those you can restore. Backed up apps not installed will have a line thru them. I've been using titanium for years since android 1.5 came out. So it works on any rom!
Happy rooting and flashing!
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Thank you Thank you! I have had titanium backup for year but only on an old tablet that I can't do anything with anymore. It's rooted but no roms available for it.
Thought I would have to root the phone before I could back it up, but will follow you plan.
Thanks again!
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