Hello, I just my Fascinate. I don't have it connected to Verizon service, so its WIFI only. I wanted to upgrade the phone to FROYO (EB01). But first, i would like to know the benefits of upgrading? Will the phone perform better? are the apps, ie mail, browser, etc, better in the upgrade?
Thanks for your responses!
Biggest benefit to me so far has been the ability to play flash video on a website. I can stream video content on 2.2. BLN as of recently. Those are just a couple of things, im sure others have more in depth answers. Plus it's just faster overall
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Your phone becomes amazingly more fast, no more restrictions, custom roms, themes, apps are faster, lag is gone, audio is better, screen looks better, ovrall everything is better
to be able to move apps to SD card lol. Flash is probably the biggest reason.
great things about flashing are the ability to do so many different things its hard to list. The newest builds are much faster, the GPS works, camera is more responsive, just to name a few.
Now I will be the first to admit - I'm not sure if its really because it is 2.2 Froyo vs. 2.1 Eclair, but since I put SuperClean froyo rom on my phone, this is now the phone I always wished it would be!!
Before (when it was on the stock 2.1 rom) the phone would sometimes act kinda lethargic, and I would notice it running and reacting slow, sorta delayed acting when I would launch things or wake it up or whatever,, but since putting the SC rom on it its silky smooth and fast operating! Just awesome!
Like I said I do not know if its because its 2.2. Maybe its more to do with the voodoo kernal that was put on at the same time as the SC rom, or maybe because the rom isnt bloated with all the verizon crap,, but to be honest I dont care.. it is awesome now! Sure there's inherent risk in loading a custom rom, and the chance you somehow hose your phone up trying to load it, but to me its worth the risk! decide for yourself.
WOOHOOO!!
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I'm currently running Bionix 1.3.1 on my T959, and while I really like it, I've been searching for a stable gingerbread ROM, and was wondering if it'd be worth the time to switch to, say, the i9000 port posted by haydn pryde:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044076
Been curious, wondering what people's experiences have been with gingerbread roms.
If you do not need GPS and you can charge your battery often, CM7 and MIUI are great. I ran CM7 for about 2 weeks and never had an issue with apps/phone.
CM7 brings a TON of options with it, is super fast and very easily themed/customized. Again though, no gps/poor battery.
I agree. Cyanogen is awesome and as far as I can tell pretty stable. If the GPS worked it would be totally complete IMHO.
any experience with hayn pryde's rom by comparison?
MIUI is very nice
So cyanogen is basically the consensus number 1 gingerbread rom?
^ for about 30+ phones.
MIUI is also nice, depends on the look you want. CM7 is just what Android should be. MIUI is like an iPhone to me.
Id sooner go with cyanogen since i liked it a lot when i had a mytouch. But the hayn pride rom intrigues me simply because it at least has gps (even though its not an exact lock), and has themes you can install as well.
It also says you might get unreliable data with cyanogen, anyone have major issues with this?
^ not trying to sway, but wanted to make sure you know CM7 has a built in theme chooser *thanks to T-Mobile and them being amazing*
So definitely worth the upgrade then? Would hate to lose GPS, but I have always liked cyanogen, and definitely want to get gingerbread running on my vibrant, so I'm still interested, just the gps and inconsistent data problems are making me hesitate a little.
^ it's fun.. it's a process to get there... lots of fun to play with the options once you have it... eventually you may miss things and come back (gps, the dialer not being a smart dialer, battery, etc)...
just depends on how much you want to play with your phone man.
I've had the Fascinate for about 8 months now, and originally applied a custom ROM in order to get the benefits of 2.2 (flash, etc). At the moment, I'm running CommRom 2.0, Sense themed, with a PBJ kernel. And while I'm able to access an abundance of themes and modifications with custom ROMs, I can't help but notice how buggy they can be. My phone randomly shuts off/becomes unresponsive at least once a day (requiring a hard reboot). Programs will often randomly force close in the background.
I also fail to notice any sort of performance improvement with the phone. Programs open and objects render just as fast, if not faster on my mother's Fascinate (which is completely stock). Also, battery drain has been a roller coaster... from what I've seen it's pretty crappy on stock ROMs, as well as my themed CommRom 2.0 ROM. The best battery life I've seen is on unthemed CommRom 2.0.. does that make any sense?
So, I was thinking about just reverting back to stock ED01, ED03, or whatever is out now, rooting it, and leaving it as is. I'll probably give CM7 or MIUI a try when they get out of the beta/alpha stages for our phone. What do you guys think?
Sounds like you have "sleep of death" issues. They can be hard to track down, but there are some steps to take to eliminate known problems.
Some people prefer custom ROMs some prefer stock, it's up to each user. I'm on CommRom myself, but since I use ADW launcher, I don't get the full experience. Mainly I like the tweaking I get to do on custom ROMs. Some people get better performance on them, but others get better performance on stock. I haven't personally noticed a huge difference.
My gf has a stock fascinate and it has problems too. I am running comrom 2.0 with pbj and have no issues. Each phone is different and even running a stock rom will have issues.
I think we forget how our stock phones ran beacuase most of us have been rooted for such a long time.
I think if your phone runs fine on a rom, just leave it. I know most of us are flash happy, but if you're having troubles run the sc roms. Those were always super solid.
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My gf has a stock fascinate and it has problems too. I am running comrom 2.0 with pbj and have no issues. Each phone is different and even running a stock rom will have issues.
I think we forget how our stock phones ran beacuase most of us have been rooted for such a long time.
I think if your phone runs fine on a rom, just leave it. I know most of us are flash happy, but if you're having troubles run the sc roms. Those were always super solid.
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I even had problems with SC... hahaha
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My wife uses a Samsung Vibrant and there are just so many issues with it. Currently, it's on the latest stock Froyo release. It keeps losing all of her home screen icons (using stock TWLaucher) and we have to kill TWLauncher or reboot to get them back. Seems to have lag all over the place. Also, wifi signal strength is poor. The wifi calling app constantly turns off saying the wifi signal isn't good enough.
I'd like be interested in trying out a custom ROM. I've tinkered with some of the leaked ROMs, so I'm familiar with ODIN. I've used CWM on my Droid X before, so I should be ok with that as well.
She's not interested in 100 different themes and fancy icons and fancy features, etc. We are just going to want something that's close to stock with some tweaks that might fix some of the issues we are having. Not interested in partially working ROMs where the GPS doesn't work or issues with the camera, etc. Would like wifi calling to work as well. Need something totally stable. I'm not going to want something that's going to need updating weekly either.
Anything out there that meets what I'm looking for?
Please make suggestions.
Hi, same situation here, my gf has stock vibrant with froyo and many issues...
I've cm7 on my N1 so I considered it for the vibrant but at the moment it have troubles with gps and wifi SO I've searched a lot and the much more stable rom (for me of course) is the projectV, it's based on the official froyo with some tweaks and fixes, seems pretty stable until now
here the topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1105037
hope u enjoy it
Agreed with nekobus
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I actually had my eye on that one.
It'll improve the lag and losing icons and things like that? I don't need a lagfix on top of that as well?
I'm not doing this for the eye candy (extra lock screens, etc.), I just want things to run more smoothly.
This probably won't help the low wifi signal though, since it's using the same modem as stock froyo, right?
Anyone else want to chime in?
It'll definently improve Lag and that icon problem that you have will not happen. And almost every ROM in here has a Lagfix, so Project-V does have one and will come on when you flash it. (A voice of a robotic women after flashing means that Voodoo is flashing) Voodoo is the name of the Lagfix, which makes our systems run on ext4 instead of the slow RFS system stock that your wife had.
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The best thing about Project-V ROM is that its made to be fast and for tweaking, that's why they say they're not competing with Cyanogenmod because it also has both speed and tweaking abilities. So don't worry if you think Project-V is all eye candy, because its both Speed, Stability, and Tweaks!
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If anything, I'll probably give this Project V a shot then. My wife will kill me if I F up her phone or cause her to lose stuff.
I flash this with CWM? I don't exactly recall where to get CWM or how to use it, but I'm sure I'll figure that out.
Installing this over stock will be a total data wipe, right? I should back up programs and program data with Titanium first and then restore after?
This does include the lagfix/file conversion? That just happens automatically when I flash this?
Everything works? No serious bugs? I can also flash that wifi calling file in the first post using cwm and then I'll have wifi calling too?
Let's say Samsung releases a 2.3 that's a solid ROM and I want to go back to stock. With this applied and whatever lagfix, file conversion that's been done, how hard would it be to get back to stock?
Anything else I should know?
I've rooted the stock froyo, backupped ALL with titanium and then wiped all from cwm and installed projectV, no problem at all but titanium is required
About gingerbread.... do you remeber the "froyo story" right? I think I seat and wait for the gingerbread version of projectV (or other roms based on official release)! No more stock images in my home please
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I've rooted the stock froyo, backupped ALL with titanium and then wiped all from cwm and installed projectV, no problem at all but titanium is required
About gingerbread.... do you remeber the "froyo story" right? I think I seat and wait for the gingerbread version of projectV (or other roms based on official release)! No more stock images in my home please
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Yes, wouldn't be surprised at all if there's never an official 2.3 for this. Their 2.2 release was many months behind competing phones originally released around the same time. Still, just want to make sure I understand what I'm getting into here and how hard it would be to get back out. Could I easily get back to the stock froyo that it's on now, if I need to?
I've never did it , but I think u have to odin back to 2.1 stock and then ota (or keys) to 2.2 or whatever
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Does the new market that came out this week work fine on this phone?
Before this market, I also had terrible problems updating apps. It was brutally slow and update all usually failed on most apps. I was very surprised that after installing the new market, I was able to do an update all on 20 apps with no problems at all.
My wife had pretty much given up on updating apps on the stock rom.
not yet tried ! But my gf had no problem at all with old and oldest market under tmob, now she's back in Italy, so I've unlocked the sim and still have no issues!
try a few different 1's and see which you like best
I like the bionix 1.3.1 with bali 1.8.7 uv kernel.
i'm not sure about the wifi calling as I dont use that feature.
Tried the new market right now, no proplems as always!
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As far as which rom you choose is your choice, I am running Toxic Smoke and a lot of people will agree its super quick and responsive but I support almost all roms, Devs here do great work on the vibrant and all should be recognized for it. I may have a solve for your low WiFi signal though..... Have you looked in to the Hardware GPS fix? It involves you opening up your phone and bending a small piece of copper, I did so and put a tiny sliver of credit card plastic under it to keep it from bending back down and now my GPS signal is ridiculous as compared to before. But as I read more there is another copper pin on the opposite side of the phone, that is your WIFI antenna. I then took my phone apart again and did the same thing to that pin and now My WIfI gets great signal. I guess it all depends on how tech savoy you are and how much you want to get into your phone. I know for how much it cost and how much I use my phone I wanted it working 100% so I took the extra time to do all of this and Im quite happy with my Vibrant now. But anyway my specs on my phone are,
ROM: ToxicMusixSmoke
Launcher: Golauncher Pro EX (Which is freaking awesome and free)
Kernal: Bali X (Will increase the responsiveness of your phone ff Overclocked to 1.2 using setCPU, you can download for free on XDA, cost 2.99 or something on the market, the dev offers it for free on here)
+ Hardware GPS Fix and S.gps.zip file for the drivers (You can also find this fine on the Hardware GPS fix post)
I hope this helps as my phone is very stable and I am totally satisfied with my phone as I was not so much at first. I also think with Golauncher you can get stock themes so your phone will look and act just like stock, but run 10000000000000 times better!
I am new to the samsung t959
Any recommendation for ROM? I would like to be as fast as possible, and with a working GPS
I don't mind CM7 as long as it is fastest.
Thanks a million!
]I wasn't looking for fastest.
Just need something to eliminate done of this issues we've had with stock and to be stable with everything functioning correctly.
Project V seems to have done that.
Only issue, so far, is that bloater isn't working and I can't figure a way to get the samsung stock keyboard back. Can anyone help with that?
I like that this rom is so close to stock. If I didn't tell my wife, she wouldn't have even known I changed anything.
While I no longer use it myself, I found Zendroid 2.0.1 with Bali Kernel to be the simplest and easiest to use for a layman, like the average wife or girlfriend
It's extremely lightweight with no bloat to speak of, and battery life is phenomenal (no bloat, no 2g/3g bleeding).
@lexluthor you can use root explorer our similar app to copy the apk to the system/app folder.
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I'm trying to update my wife's phone to Simply Honey 5.1 coming from Sipmly Galaxy 2.8. Both ROMs use kernels by cmenard, and both kernels include Voodoo.
I have 2 questions about the installation:
1. The Simply Honey install instructions specifically say to use Odin. Is this necessary? I've never used Odin before and I've flashed my own Vibrant about a dozen times without a problem.
2. Since the ROM my wife is coming from has Voodoo enabled, and since Simply Honey 5.1 has Voodoo in the kernel, do I need to disable Voodoo before flashing? I thought that you only need to disable Voodoo if the kernel you're flashing doesn't support it -- is this inaccurate? Or is there some other reason to disable Voodoo before flashing?
Thanks for reading, and thanks in advance for any replies.
The more important question is: Does your wife like having her phone tinkered with?
The Gingerbread ROMs are coming along, but they're not quite stable yet. You might want to stick with Froyo unless your wife is a fan of tinkering and using workarounds for GPS and battery life issues.
As for your questions:
1) When in doubt, follow the creators install instructions to a "T".
2) I've seen quite a few ROMs recommend disabling Voodoo before flashing them, but never seen one say that disabling Voodoo would be harmful to flashing them. So I'd disable it just in case.
You're also going to need to switch to the Gingerbread bootloader if you're going to stick with an i9000 leaked Gingerbread ROM. Messing with the bootloader is the only way I know of to completely kill your phone if you mess it up. Fair warning!
If you want Gingerbread without having to mess with bootloaders, I suggest MIUI or CM7. CM7 just went stable, and I've had no major issues with MIUI since SS-12 Revamped came out. MIUI has the most robust theming system I've seen in a ROM, so your wife may enjoy it. Just be ready to have her phone covered in Pink with fluffy icons and whatnot when she's done with it
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The more important question is: Does your wife like having her phone tinkered with?
The Gingerbread ROMs are coming along, but they're not quite stable yet. You might want to stick with Froyo unless your wife is a fan of tinkering and using workarounds for GPS and battery life issues.
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Messing with the bootloader is the only way I know of to completely kill your phone if you mess it up. Fair warning!
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Wow, thanks. You answered questions I didn't even know I had!
My wife wants a phone that "just works", but she wanted the speed and customizability of a custom ROM (her whole phone is already themed purple, haha), so I guess I'll go shopping for another Froyo ROM (or try to wipe and reinstall her current ROM to try to fix the crashes and accelerometer problems she's been having.)
Thanks again, I appreciate it.
A nice stable froyo ROM you can try is called toxic 8..since she likes themes, they have a bunch of them and the developer has added a lot of nice touches that are gingerlike
Again, if she likes theming and doesn't much use the GPS (it works, but requires an extra step or two), MIUI is unique and has the most robust theming of any Vibrant ROM.
I used to be a die hard fan of Simple Honey Roms, but they all became too unstable or had various issues, and caused me alot of problems and aggravation!! So far the only ROM that's been a super performer is team Toxic's Crazy 8 Froyo mixed with GB Rom, that works 100% with every option and with blazing speed and performance, Its your choice, but if you want to avoid the music from your wife when SH starts to hose up, Id stay away from it, especially 5.0 and double especially 5.1 but then again maybe your a gluten for punishment and NO MORE lovin from the wife, until things are right again. LOL Good luck JMHO based on experience with all the SH Rom's BTW I appreciates EB's work, but it still needs time to evolve, eventually there gonna be great ROM's.
I really just want to use my phone as a WIFI device and have it as fast as I can. Seems like most roms I load still make it quite slow.
Also one where the camera works without bugs would be nice.
Anyways, I think there is a script that lets you disable the radio and mobile, but what ROM would be best if I just want something clean, stable, and quick. nothing fancy.
Vanilla I've heard about, but not sure of the correct one to go with.
Thanks
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I really just want to use my phone as a WIFI device and have it as fast as I can. Seems like most roms I load still make it quite slow.
Also one where the camera works without bugs would be nice.
Anyways, I think there is a script that lets you disable the radio and mobile, but what ROM would be best if I just want something clean, stable, and quick. nothing fancy.
Vanilla I've heard about, but not sure of the correct one to go with.
Thanks
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As fast as it can run, with a stable camera? Honestly, I think that you are best off with one of the xtr close-to-stock ROMs (xtrSENSE, xtrROM if you don't want the Sense launcher.) I'm not sure if the WiFi only script works on these - I've never tried them - so you'll have to try yourself.
(One of the best parts about being rooted is that it's easy to try things out and then just Nandroid restore back to something that worked if you try something that messes up.)
I use GSB and really wouldn't consider any other ROM on the Eris as an option. GSB is definitely the best out there, and with the "Wifi only" script the battery life is pretty amazing too.
Currently using GSB v4.4, running efficiently. So it may be an option to choose, however, there are other rom's that run great too. For example, Gin-Tazz-aosp; I found to run great, another one to consider. Subsequently, just try rom's that lurk and see which one runs remuneratively(in your perspective)
I have just rooted my Eris, and I'm debating which way to go regarding a new ROM. I want to keep all of the major device functions, and I'm really just wanting to speed up the operation of the phone. Adding some visual excitement wouldn't be bad either. Does GSB 4.4 provide this?
BTW, the phone is currently running 2.1 OTA.
Thanks!
Designman said:
I have just rooted my Eris, and I'm debating which way to go regarding a new ROM. I want to keep all of the major device functions, and I'm really just wanting to speed up the operation of the phone. Adding some visual excitement wouldn't be bad either. Does GSB 4.4 provide this?
BTW, the phone is currently running 2.1 OTA.
Thanks!
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Well, you can consider xtrSense; since it derives from most of all the Sense. Also, GSB is a CM7 nightly and is particularly focused on CM7 only. Furthermore, it does not contain any Sense functions. Now don't get me wrong GSB Is phenomenal. Though, if your considering something mostly with Sense, xtrSense is advised; also it being overclocked, Collin_Ph script(saves battery), etcetera. Hope this helped
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Designman,
Definitely go with GSB 4.4. I've used this series of Roms since oct '10 and it's been great. I just upgraded to the Razr but I still use my Eris to play around on. I actually just flashed 4.4 from 4.3. the other night and it's really good. You'll like it and obviously it's got full functionality, the only major bug that I know might still exist is with Maps 5.5. or later isn't compatible. But there's an easy fix for that.